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Subject: Re: Post 257 A: mtDNA J2b1b

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Penny (Gardner)

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Date Posted: 22:40:04 12/22/15 Tue
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In reply to: teltalheart/moderator 's message, "Post 257 A: mtDNA J2b1b" on 00:59:16 01/27/11 Thu

>I descend from two sons of Brinsley Barnes and his wife, Elizabeth Lindley, through John and James. I have recently had my autosomal DNA test done; most of the ethnicity results I expected; Ireland, some British, Western European. However, I was surprised at results being 2% European Jewish (I assume Ashkenazi) with traces of ancestors having lived in Italy, and Greece. My mother, one of her siblings, and her grandfather were asked at times if they were Jewish due to their physical features, but they were not aware of any history of this nature in their family. When I carefully went through all the cousins on my Ancestry.com list from others who have taken the autosomal test, more from the Barnes branches came up with "traces of European Jew" far more than any of my other family lines. Is it possible that these Barnes or Lindley families originally were Jewish before becoming Quakers?

Post 257 A: mtDNA J2b1b
>
>I have recently had a complete mtDNA test preformed on
>myself (Michael D. Barnes).
>
>The results were that I am mtDNA J2b1b.
>
>According to 'J (mtDNA) Wikipedia,' "J2b1 = Virtually
>absent in Europe. Found in diverse forms in the Near
>East."
>
>Accordind to: Mitochondrial DNA variation and language
>replacements in the Caucasus, by Ivane Nasidze and
>Mark Stoneking - University of Pennsylvania 2001.
>
>The most closely related groups in the J2 study are:
>Georgians (SC)
>Azerbiajanians (AL)
>Armenian (IE)
>Chechenians (NC)
>Kurds
>British
>Sardinians
>Basques
>Kabardinians (NC)
>Spanish
>Cherkessians (NC)
>Ingushians (NC)
>Darginians (NC)
>Abazinians (NC)
>Adygheians (NC)
>to the furtherest end of the spectrum are:
>Indians (India)
>Turks
>(Israeli) Drusi, or (Druze)
>Middle Easterns.
>
>NC: North Caucasian
>SC: South Caucasian (Kartvelian)
>IE: Indo-European
>AL: Altaic
>
>Ashkenazi and Cohanim:
>
>"There is enormous controversy regarding the
>distribution of the Jewish Cohanim (hereditary
>priestly caste) among the clades of the 'J'
>haplogroup, and their origins."
>
>It seems the J2b (M12), (M221), (M314) was the parent
>group out of whom came J2b1 (M102), from this group
>came J2b1a (M241) and finally J2b1b (M205).
>
>End Post 257 A: www.voy.com/40560/ teltalheart

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