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Subject: Cited from her web-site : their views about their attempted agitation for gay group (1)Develops a new culture of inclusiveness, plurality and mutual benefit; (2) 支持立法禁止年齡、性傾向及種族歧視。For further details, see here


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Gay people
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Date Posted: 22:06:39 11/24/03 Mon
In reply to: PB 's message, "1. What makes you think District Councillors are influential people? 2. District Councillors are elected to serve their constituency, not his/her own interest. 3. Mary Ann has made it very clear that she has many identities and lesbian is only one of them. 4. It is simply not fair to expect her to (and take it for granted that she would) "fight" for lesbians just because she is a lesbian herself." on 21:36:05 11/24/03 Mon

Local Platform -What she wants to acheive

http://www.voteforwanchai.net/b10_platform_ggum.htm



United Platform-What they want to acheive

http://www.voteforwanchai.net/cau_jointplatform.htm
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[> [> [> [> Subject: Please post the link up here so that we can all have a read


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PB
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Date Posted: 22:15:00 11/24/03 Mon

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Please click into my message, then you can see it. Thanks. 我地和友人巳經投左一票,我地好想佢答應的會對現.幫我地爭取 把性傾向岐視 列入岐視條例中. 祝佢快的向政府提出, 而且成功. yeah!!!!


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Gay people
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Date Posted: 22:24:20 11/24/03 Mon

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: The functions of a District Council are-


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PB
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Date Posted: 22:34:41 11/24/03 Mon

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: A District Council advises the Government on the following: 1. matters affecting the well-being of people in the District; 2. the provision and use of public facilities and services within the District; 3. the adequacy and priorities of Government programmes for the District; 4. the use of public funds allocated to the District for local public works and community activities; and Where funds are made available, a District Council will also undertake the following within the District: 1. environmental improvements; 2. the promotion of recreational and cultural activities; and 3. community activities. These are the power of a District Councillor. I have no doubt on Mary Ann. She will do whatever she will do no matter who she is. However, it is naive to think that she can initiate policy changes regarding equal opportunities in the Government just because she is a DC.


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PB
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Date Posted: 22:44:53 11/24/03 Mon

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: "it is naive to think that she can initiate policy changes regarding equal opportunities in the Government just because she is a DC"??, So, is it naive to have elected her ? If a DC is not going to voice out and agitate for what she has promised, what is the point she 's being a DC? The above points you have cited are just ordinary rules & obligations a DC should abide himself to, the specific work for each of them is to be assessed from what he/she has promised. That's what called "be accountable & res[ponsible to your constituency". A DC can't initiate proposal regarding her promises meant nothing at all. We as voters, has the right to demand DC to do so and she has the obligations to listen and act on it.


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Passers By
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Date Posted: 22:55:27 11/24/03 Mon

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: these are functions of the DC as stipulated in s. 61 of the District Council Ordinance (Cap 547). all persons who hold civil/public positions are to act according to the powers conferred on them by the relevant legislation. they cannot act ultra virus.


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PB
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Date Posted: 23:11:30 11/24/03 Mon

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Ultra virus – 的意思是: 行為唔可以超出被授權的範圍. 妳認為DC依政綱履行所答應選民的, 是Ultra virus? S61 or 任何法規唔會話到比佢知, 佢應否履行的的原因, 和會否履行的後果. 政綱同法律是兩個不同的概念. 知道嗎? 拿Banner替同志爭取一些東西, 如歧視條例等.. 不會超出DC權力規限的, 知無 ? 一些地區議員都會為履行政綱而努力, 如爭取交通改善等.. 無人會以Ultra virus 來作不打算履行的理据. 想過另一個藉口啦, sorry, 呢個唔work!


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Passers By
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Date Posted: 23:37:37 11/24/03 Mon

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: 如果某人政綱所答應選民的﹐是某人無權做的﹐而某人去履行此一政綱﹐就係 ultra virus。例如某人如果想爭取以區議會撥款來設立一個全港性歧視投訴中心﹐就係 ultra virus.。 當然咁唔代表某人唔可以個個星期走去示威要求立法禁止性傾向歧視。但如果你想擺上區議會會議桌上討論﹐人地咪一句話你知唔係你職權範圍既野﹐無得講0羅。咁唔係區議員都可以個個星期去示威啦﹐咁即係係咪區議員係呢件事情上有無分別﹖ 同埋﹐請唔好再話我話甘甘唔會履行佢既選舉承諾﹐英文唔明我中文再講一次﹔我係希望大家唔好對一個區議員可以做到既野抱太大希望﹐因為區議會由頭到尾都只係 serve 一個 window dressing 既 function﹐但我相信甘甘仍會儘力為所有弱勢社群爭取利益﹐正如佢一直以黎所做既一樣。


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PB
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Date Posted: 00:35:13 11/25/03 Tue

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: 醒少少啦, 唔該. "上唔到桌提出, 咁點呀媽MI?" ??? 講就天下無敵, 而家妳話做就有心無力? 咁(政綱)妳又答應人地? 欺騙選民? 細野話cheap唔做, 大野話做唔到, 咁唔好開空頭支票啦. 佢死都唔肯代表我地, 咁我地下一界選另一個sin duck. eg 其他Gay group leaders ｅｔｃ．．．


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Date Posted: 08:27:10 11/25/03 Tue

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: 爭取改善區內交通﹐絕對係區議會職能範圍以內既事﹐擺上檯講﹐當然無問題啦。但講來講去﹐咪就可以講呢D同掃街掃得乾唔乾淨呀﹐係邊個山頭起多條行山徑呀咁0羅﹗


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PB
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Date Posted: 01:51:32 11/25/03 Tue

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Don't take me wrong. I am not saying Mary Ann is not going to do what she has promised because she has in fact been doing all those things all these years. and i am very glad you cast your vote and made a very good decision. if i were in her constituency, i would no doubt make the same choice. what i am trying to say is that the fact that she is now a DC does not make her god. it is not fair to her to expect her to be god. as a DC, she can only do what is within her power and she understands that very well (you can tell from the wording they use in their platform). however, i am sure she will do the best she can utilising those power, no matter how limited they are.


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PB
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Date Posted: 23:21:19 11/24/03 Mon

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: It doesn't necessary have to be a god before starting to do what she has promised. It is simple. Just voice it!! She is not our god, but gay group's representative, madmn!! Please be clear minded. Tho' she may be your God. Yeah!!!


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Passer By
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Date Posted: 23:43:00 11/24/03 Mon

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: please read what i wrote again. i said, she has been doing all these for years. i did not say she would not do what she said she would. i said, don't put too much expectation on what she can do, full stop.


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PB
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Date Posted: 23:55:46 11/24/03 Mon

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Got it, thank you


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PB
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Date Posted: 22:25:03 11/24/03 Mon

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: What she has said in previous day at this board: 本人欲借此事件表達對「同志身分霸權」的不滿。本人相信，一個真正多元的社群，應容許不同身分（或沒有身分）的成員存在，而不是單一地以是否自我標籤為某一身分來決定其於社群中的「合法性」，或以單一的「出櫃」論述來審判某成員是否合乎某種身分的「標準」。「同志」是一個容許個人自由選擇的政治標籤，而不是一個用來消弭異聲、強加於個人的、不容選擇的唯一身分，更不是一個用來扼殺多元身分發展空間的霸權論述。


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Passers By
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Date Posted: 22:41:48 11/24/03 Mon

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: and i have never seen her campaigning as a lesbian. that tells you how much she wants to be ghettoised into the GLBT identity. that doesn't mean she does not suppot equal opportunities for GLBT ppl, that only means she wants to do much more than that.


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PB
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Date Posted: 22:55:44 11/24/03 Mon

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Date Posted: 23:12:49 11/24/03 Mon

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Date Posted: 23:36:37 11/24/03 Mon

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