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Subject: 97 detroit 60 series Author: keith [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 12/ 28/ 06, 1:22pm no help from bluebird tried check valve did't help engine will start after cranking about one minute after ideling for a short time starts to run ruff past a idel runs fine turn off and same thing again 77 thousand miles on engine changed all filters can't see any leaks any help would be apprceated thanks, Keith [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: 97 detroit 60 series Author: Jon [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12/ 31/ 06, 7:25am Sounds like its getting air in the system,Take your filters off and see if there full of fuel ,If not its sucking air before the filters. And this will not show as a leak [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: 97 detroit 60 series Author: keith [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12/ 31/ 06, 12:28pm the secondary fiter will only be about half full after I turn the engine off have checked all fitting seam to be tight racor will be full so the air leak should be from racor to secondary filter which is about 5' of fuel line odd that gave no warning signs before it happened,thanks Keith [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: 97 detroit 60 series Author: Jon [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12/ 31/ 06, 3:10pm If you cant find the leak you can put air pressure through one of the feed lines{not alot about 10 pounds} and your air leak should leak fuel...... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: 97 detroit 60 series Author: Bob Dilks [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01/ 4/ 07, 8:07am I agree with others the engine is not getting fuel - but why? If you have a check valve in the fuel line that is working then you likely have an air leak after the check valve and after the secondary filter. If the check valve is missing or leaking then the vacuum produced by fuel leaking back to the tank through the check valve coupled with an air leak after the secondary filter, is causing fuel to be siphoned from the secondary filter to the point where the engine needs about a minute to crank fuel back to start the engine. My experience with replacing filters is that the secondary filter must be filled to the absolute top for the engine to start promptly. Your engine should start in about a second. Remove the secondary filter, fill it to the top with new diesel, reinstall and promptly turn the ignition key. Call Holland Motor Homes at 800-221-7197 for additional diagnostic help. If repair needed, take coach to a diesel shop in your area that has experience with Detroit Series 92 engines. Its possible you have a contaminated tank where fungus is clogging the filters reducing fuel flow to the point that high pump pressure is needed to supply the engine. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: 97 detroit 60 series Author: Keith [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01/ 4/ 07, 6:37pm talked to a diesel mech. he thinks it is a blown fuse to the ecm, no service engine codes going to hook to computer read out this weekend I hope let you know the out come thanks, Keith [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: 97 detroit 60 series Author: Keith [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01/ 19/ 07, 2:45pm hello My starting seams to have been air after checking every fitting took lines loose on fuel pump turned the engine which did pump fuel retighted lines has started quick every since I would think they need to be run a few minutes every couple of weeks, all this problem happened while sitting for two months thanks for all the help Keith [ Post a Reply to This Message ]