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Subject: 1990 Wanderlodge 40 foot Author: Sandy [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 01/ 22/ 03, 6:13am We are purchasing the a 1990 Wnaderloge with the following is there anything that we should know that is special to the 1990 model with the following? 8V92 Detroit diesel with DDEC, 5 speed Allison transmission, 6 RV/Marine batteries, queen island bed with storage, Couch in main salon makes into a double bed. Corian vanity with lighting, 300 gallon diesel fuel tank, 155,000 miles [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: 1990 Wanderlodge 40 foot Author: Rich D. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01/ 22/ 03, 4:29pm Sandy, We had a '90 WLWB from '93 till '01 when we bought our '99LXi43. The '90 was a great coach and we never had any major problems. I peformed many upgrades to the coach and am familiar with the "house" portion more than the engine and chassis which we had serviced professionally. I'd be happy to provide answers to any questions. You can post or email (which gets checked more often). Good luck. gman1146@optonline.net [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: 1990 Wanderlodge 40 foot Author: Sandy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01/ 24/ 03, 5:03am Thanks - welllllllllll we purchased her and she should be arriving shortly. ....so here we go again.....we hope to meet many of you and expect to back on the road and attend the Rally in the Valley. When I find I need help with the house part I will certainly ask....THank you for your offer. The interior was redone 4 years ago. I am certain that I can live with anything for a while..... Sincerely, Sandy, Griffy the Wonder Pup & Joe...the frustrated bus driver...LOL [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: 1990 Wanderlodge 40 foot Author: Rich D. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01/ 24/ 03, 5:56pm Sandy, Joe & G. the WP - Congratulations on the purchase of your new Bird. Best of luck & happy travels. Rich D. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: 1990 Wanderlodge 40 foot Author: Sandy, Joe & Griffy the Wonder Pup [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02/ 5/ 03, 8:58am The bird has landed here in Florida - it experienced a moderately safe trip from Calif - blow out on tag axle on passenger side - but it turned out to be lovely with the interior needing only minor changes and of course a through cleaning....drapes to the cleaners and the bedspread and cornice boards and headboard will be the only major changes......does anyone know how to remove the cornice boards and and headboard.....of coudse I will use the old bedspread to alter a new one.... Hopefully we will see you at the birdnest in a couple of weeks Sandy, Joe & Griffy the Wonder Pup [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: 1990 Wanderlodge 40 foot Author: Rich D. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02/ 6/ 03, 7:24pm Hi Sandy & Joe, I removed and reupholstered the cornice boards in our ’90. As I recall there are a series of angle brackets holding them in place. While I had them out I installed rope lighting and put in a switch that allowed alternating between the fluorescent lights and the rope lights. The switch was hidden inside the valance and after positioning it for either set of lights, the original wall switch is used to turn them on and off. The rope lights are nice at night when the fluorescents are too bright. It is time consuming to remove the cornice boards so if you are contemplating doing this, have the lighting supplies on hand so they will only have to be removed once. The effect was so nice I continued on and installed it in all valences up front. This “upgrade” leaves no marks and is completely hidden when not turned on as the rope was mounted in a plastic channel on the wall directly over the fluorescents. I also removed and reupholstered the headboard to match. The screws were hidden in the pleats of the fabric. Have fun! Rich D. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: 1990 Wanderlodge 40 foot Author: Bob Dilks [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01/ 27/ 03, 4:26am My recollection is that the 90 Birds have a Primus hydronic heating system which uses propane to fire two small boilers in the engine compartment. I believe this system was developed in Europe and included in Blue Birds for two or three years before the system was replaced by Aqua Hot. In any event, the system is no longer servicable in the US and parts need to come from Sweden. Blue Bird is still working on a US source for parts and you might give them a call at 800/495-7787. The system seems to be long lived and is not subject to break downs, but if a problem does occur, parts will be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to get. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: 1990 Wanderlodge 40 foot Author: Rich D. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01/ 27/ 03, 2:11pm Bob, I think Primus was indroduced on the 1991 Wanderlodge. Most all, if not all 90's had propane furnaces. I have heard of converting the Primus to a Webasto unit if parts become a severe problem. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Primus Conversions Author: Jeff Miller [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01/ 28/ 03, 6:31pm Holland Motorhomes has a diesel-fired replacement for the propane-fired Primus. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Primus Author: John C. Smith, Jr. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01/ 30/ 03, 3:02pm Primus parts are available from BISK AB in Sweden which can be contacted as follows: Mr. Sune Glimhage, President BISK AB Spikv. 10 4571 Udevalla, Sweden E-mail: bisk@telia.com Fax: 011 46 522 88901 Tel: 011 46 522 88388 BISK AB has a web site, "bisk.com", but only a few words are in English. The RV division of Primus was sold to BISK AB. I sent E-mails to both PRIMUS AB and BISK AB regarding the unavailability of parts in the United States. Mr. Sune Glimhage replied by E-mail in September assuring me that I could obtain parts from BISK AB. I have just ordered several parts paid for by VISA/Master Card. I assume parts, including shipping, from Sweden cost more than they would through a US distributer, but it's less costly than replacing the heating system. Blue Bird has replaced a few Primus systems with diesel-fired Webasto systems. I imagine there are pros & cons on that option. I know that the single Webasto system will probably require utilizing at least part of a compartment adjacent the engine compartment since it is larger than the two Primus boilers. I suspect the Webasto system takes more current and may be noisier? Also you lose the advantage of having two heating systems, one of which serves as a backup if the other won't operate. I would be interested if anyone has more information? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Primus Author: Jeff Miller [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02/ 2/ 03, 10:53am I checked with HMH on their diesel-fired Primus replacement and am told that it fits in the same space as the original Primus. As far as noise level and current draw, I don't see why it would be any more than the propane-fired system, but ??? Call HMH at 616.396.1461 and they can probably answer the rest of your questions better than I can (Ken or Mike). BTW, I am only aware of one Primus system being replaced with a Wabasto by BlueBird, very expensive from what I heard. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Primus Author: Bob Dilks [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 04/ 15/ 03, 6:08pm The Blue Bird factory now has a replacement source for parts for the Primus heat system through BISK AB in Sweden. This week, Blue Bird filled their first customer order with parts from BISK. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: 1990 Wanderlodge 40 foot Author: Sune Glimhage [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02/ 7/ 03, 12:28am Mr. Bob Dilks, my name is Sune Glimhage pres. of a company here in Sweden BISK AB. For your information, PRIMUS RV division was sold to a Europe company, named ALDE and they asked us if we could take care about all parts/support for PRIMUS in USA. You see we have been in the RV-business for the past 18 year and we know the market and parts/service in USA and Europe as well. We also have a catalog for the aftermarket over here. futher we can guaranti you that you will have NO problem with any parts for PRIMUS, just mail/fax/call us and we will help you. The prices will follow USA dollar and the price will be the same, but rembemer that Usd. have been gone down 20% - to Swedish krona. So for the next 5-10 year we can support you with all parts you want. You are welcome to mail or call us. Sincerely. Sune Glimhage pres. PS. The are no problem to conect a Primus system to another system,( engine system/dieselsystem ) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: 1990 Wanderlodge 40 foot Author: Sune Glimhage [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02/ 7/ 03, 12:35am Mr. Bob Dilks, my name is Sune Glimhage pres. of a company here in Sweden BISK AB. For your information, PRIMUS RV division was sold to a Europe company, named ALDE and they asked us if we could take care about all parts/support for PRIMUS in USA. You see we have been in the RV-business for the past 18 year and we know the market and parts/service in USA and Europe as well. We also have a catalog for the aftermarket over here. futher we can guaranti you that you will have NO problem with any parts for PRIMUS, just mail/fax/call us and we will help you. The prices will follow USA dollar and the price will be the same, but rembemer that Usd. have been gone down 20% - to Swedish krona. So for the next 5-10 year we can support you with all parts you want. You are welcome to mail or call us. Sincerely. Sune Glimhage pres. PS. The are no problem to conect a Primus system to another system,( engine system/dieselsystem ) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]