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>>hay any guys hereever get the cane on the palm as well >>as the backside - im curious as to whioch hurt more - >>also did any guys out tere ever get the birch on the >>palm or the ass - if so how did it feel >>smithy > Only the once in my case,thankfully, and that was on >my second day at Swinfen. think they were trying to >soften me up a bit. I got two onm each hand first, and >then I had to drop my shorts and pants and go over a >table to get four on my arse, i was hekld down by my >shoulders but it wasnt necessary. But the pain in my >hands was real bad as i had to grip the table legs to >take the wacking.

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