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Subject: Re: Borstal..... seems everyone over 45 has done borstal


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Date Posted: 04:25:14 08/31/04 Tue
In reply to: Peter 's message, "Re: Borstal..... seems everyone over 45 has done borstal" on 09:35:02 12/29/03 Mon

One of the worst memories I have is sharing a dorm with kid who was epileptic. I knew the treatment for fits so was not too frightened when an episode occurred. I remember one of the guys ringing the night bell whereupon 2 screws charged in tied this kids arm to the bed to demonstrate their restraint techniques. I shouted at them to stop as this can kill an ep but got a battering and a week on the boards as a result. Time for screws? zero.

>>>>i did hewell grange and onley recall centre in the
>>>>late 1960's.met good and bad people alike,including
>>>>screws.i was young 17-18-19.hewell grange was a
>>former
>>>>stately home and the atmosphere there was a welcome
>>>>relief from the allocation wing at wormwood
>>>>scrubs.having said that,i got head butted and my
>nose
>>>>busted the first week i was there,but looking back i
>>>>was probably a bit gobby.did a couple of runners and
>>>>nearly got sent to reading borstal but was saved by
>>>>the skin of my teeth by a house master who thought i
>>>>deserved another chance.wonder if i would have
>>>>survived reading if not for him ? this was the
>>reading
>>>>of violence,hot bath scaldings and deaths caused by
>>>>officers against inmates,not to mention the
>>suicides.i
>>>>dont know if the enquiry that followed sent any of
>>the
>>>>screws to prison but i very much doubt
>it.anyway,back
>>>>to hewell,i do not have any really bad memories of
>>>>this place and the fact it was an open borstal made
>>my
>>>>stay there a bit more bearable.when i was discharged
>>i
>>>>had done 18 months because of my runners, my gob and
>>>>attitude.the average discharge was 9 months.im not
>>>>bragging,just telling it as it was.strange how as
>you
>>>>get older you stop running from your problems, learn
>>>>to control your gob and get proper attitude.onley
>was
>>>>another story,did about 4 months of the 6 down the
>>>>block.glad its all in the past now.it was a learning
>>>>experiance--a part of my life.by the way before i
>>>>go,its funny the amount of guys ive met that brag
>>they
>>>>did borstal and when you ask them which one, they
>>cant
>>>>remember or are real evasive.bullshit, you never
>>>>forget.
>I was at hewell Grange in 63/64 or was it 64/65 i
>can't remember to good,its a long way back,i do
>remember that we had a night screw his name was
>bosum,and he got killed after a fire with
>floorpolish,do you remember?The Direktor was a
>scotsman,forgotten his name.Wenn i came there i workt
>in the gardens behind the hause,the garderer was a
>small old man.We had 4 hauses,st.patrick,st.George,St
>Andrews i think,the other one i can't remember.i was
>in St.George.We used zu play Billiard in the
>evenings,and we had our Meals in the big Dinnerroom.I
>can remember that when we went to bed and the bosun
>put the lights out we used to creep to the other
>dorm's and through a bucket of water into the room,and
>some time after the other dorm,from another house
>would do the same to us.
>Could be that you can also remember?I'M living since
>1966 in Austria and i don't have long to the
>pension,,,,hahaha,,,lifes funny.
>
>
>See You Peter

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