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Subject: Concept of god in Buddhism. Mabaho pekpek ni Sheryn Regis


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Mabaho pekpek ni Sheryn Regis
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Date Posted: 17:59:40 08/15/05 Mon
In reply to: VARIOUS SCHOOL OF THOUGHT IN BUDDHISM 's message, "Re: Concept of god in Buddhism" on 07:28:18 08/15/05 Mon

>>I
>>BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES:
>>
>>Historical criticism has proved that the original
>>teachings of Buddha can never be known. It seems that
>>Gautama Buddha’s teachings were memorized by his
>>disciples. After Buddha’s death a council was held at
>>Rajagaha so that the words of Buddha could be recited
>>and agreed upon. There were differences of opinion and
>>conflicting memories in the council. Opinion of
>>Kayshapa and Ananda who were prominent disciples of
>>Buddha were given preference. A hundred years later, a
>>second council at Vesali was held. Only after 400
>>years, after the death of Buddha were his teachings
>>and doctrines written down. Little attention was paid
>>regarding its authenticity, genuineness and purity.
>>
>>Buddhist Scriptures can be divided into Pali and
>>Sanskrit Literature:
>>
>>
>>A.
>>Pali Literature :
>>
>>The Pali literature was monopolized by the Hinayana
>>sect of Buddhism.
>>
>>Tri Pitaka
>>
>>The most important of all Buddhist scriptures is the
>>TRI-PITAKA which is in Pali text. It is supposed to be
>>the earliest recorded Buddhist literature which was
>>written in the 1st Century B.C.
>>
>>The TRI-PITAKA or Three Baskets of law is composed of
>>3 books:
>>
>>
>>1.
>>Vinaya Pitaka: ‘Rules of Conduct’
>>
>>his is a boTok of discipline and mainly deals with
>>rules of the order.
>>
>>2.
>>Sutta Pitaka: ‘Discourses’
>>
>>It is a collection of sermons and discourses of
>>Gautama Buddha and the incidents in his life. It is
>>the most important Pitaka and consists of five
>>divisions known as Nikayas. Dhammapada is the most
>>famous Pali literature and contains aphorisms and
>>short statements covering the truth.
>>
>>3.
>>Abhidhamma: ‘Analysis of Doctrine’
>>
>>This third basket contains meta physical doctrines and
>>is known as Buddhist meta physicals. It is an
>>analytical and logical elaboration of the first two
>>pitakas. It contains analysis and exposition of
>>Buddhist doctrine.
>>
>>B.
>>Sanskrit Literature:
>>
>>Sanskrit literature was preferred by the Mahayana.
>>Sanskrit literature has not been reduced to a
>>collection or in Cannon like the Pali literature. Thus
>>much of the original Sanskrit literature has been
>>lost. Some were translated into other languages like
>>Chinese and are now being re-translated into
>Sanskrit.
>>
>>1.
>>Maha vastu: ‘Sublime Story’
>>
>>Mahavastu is the most famous work in Sanskrit which
>>has been restored from its Chinese translation. It
>>consists of voluminous collection of legendary
>>stories.
>>
>>2.
>>Lalitavistara
>>
>>Lalitavistara is one of the holiest of the Sanskrit
>>literature. It belongs to the first century C.E., 500
>>years after the death of Buddha. It contains the
>>miracles which the superstition loving people have
>>attributed to Buddha.
>>
>>II
>>TEACHINGS OF BUDDHA:
>>
>>A.
>>Noble Truths:
>>
>>The principal teachings of Gautama Buddha can be
>>summarised in what the Buddhists call the ‘Four Noble
>>Truths’:
>>
>>First – There is suffering and misery in life .
>>
>>Second – The cause of this suffering and misery is
>>desire.
>>
>>Third – Suffering and misery can be removed by
>>removing desire.
>>
>>Fourth – Desire can be removed by following the Eight
>>Fold Path.
>>
>>
>>B.
>>The Noble Eight Fold Path:
>>
>>(i) Right Views
>>
>>(ii) Right Thoughts
>>
>>(iii) Right Speech
>>
>>(iv) Right Actions
>>
>>(v) Right Livelihood
>>
>>(vi) Right Efforts
>>
>>(vii) Right Mindfulness
>>
>>(viii) Right Meditation
>>
>>
>>C.
>>Nirvana:
>>
>>Nirvana' literally means "blowing out" or
>>"extinction". According to Buddhism, this is the
>>ultimate goal of life and can be described in various
>>words. It is a cessation of all sorrows, which can be
>>achieved by removing desire by following the Eight
>>Fold Path.
>>
>>III
>>PHILOSOPHY OF BUDDHISM IS SELF – CONTRADICTORY:
>>
>>As mentioned earlier, the main teachings of Buddhism
>>are summarised in the Four Noble Truths:
>>
>>(i) There is suffering and misery in life.
>>
>>(ii) The cause of suffering and misery is desire.
>>
>>(iii) Suffering and misery can be removed by removing
>>desire.
>>
>>(iv) Desire can be removed by following the Eight Fold
>>Path.
>>
>>This Philosophy of Buddhism is self-contradictory or
>>self-defeating because the third truth says ‘suffering
>>and misery can be removed by removing desire’ and the
>>fourth truth says that 'desire can be removed by
>>following the Eight Fold Path'.
>>
>>Now, for any person to follow Buddhism he should first
>>have the desire to follow the Four Noble Truths and
>>the Eight Fold Path. The Third great Noble Truth says
>>that desire should be removed. Once you remove desire,
>>how can we follow the Fourth Noble truth i.e. follow
>>the Eight Fold Path unless we have a desire to follow
>>the Eight Fold Path. In short desire can only be
>>removed by having a desire to follow the Eight Fold
>>Path. If you do not follow the Eight Fold Path, desire
>>cannot be removed. It is self contradicting as well as
>>self-defeating to say that desire will only be removed
>>by continuously having a desire.
>>
>>
>>IV
>>CONCEPT OF GOD
>>
>>Buddha was silent about the existence or non-existence
>>of God. It may be that since India was drowned in idol
>>worship and anthropomorphism that a sudden step to
>>monotheism would have been drastic and hence Buddha
>>may have chosen to remain silent on the issue of God.
>>He did not deny the existence of God. Buddha was once
>>asked by a disciple whether God exists? He refused to
>>reply. When pressed, he said that if you are suffering
>>from a stomach ache would you concentrate on relieving
>>the pain or studying the prescription of the
>>physician. "It is not my business or yours to find out
>>whether there is God – our business is to remove the
>>sufferings of the world".
>>
>>Buddhism provided Dhamma or the ‘impersonal law’ in
>>place of God. However this could not satisfy the
>>craving of human beings and the religion of self-help
>>had to be converted into a religion of promise and
>>hope. The Hinayana sect could not hold out any promise
>>of external help to the people. The Mahayana sect
>>taught that Buddha’s watchful and compassionate eyes
>>are on all miserable beings, thus making a God out of
>>Buddha. Many scholars consider the evolution of God
>>within Buddhism as an effect of Hinduism.
>>
>>Many Buddhists adopted the local god and thus the
>>religion of ‘No-God’ was transformed into the religion
>>of ‘Many-Gods’ – big and small, strong and weak and
>>male and female. The ‘Man-God’ appears on earth in
>>human form and incarnates from time to time. Buddha
>>was against the caste-system prevalent in the Hindu
>>society.
>>
>>
>>V
>>MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IN BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES:
>>
>>1.
>>Buddha prophesised the advent of a Maitreya:
>>
>>A)
>>Almost all Buddhist books contain this prophecy. It is
>>in Chakkavatti Sinhnad Suttanta D. III, 76:
>>
>>"There will arise in the world a Buddha named Maitreya
>>(the benevolent one) a holy one, a supreme one, an
>>enlightened one, endowed with wisdom in conduct,
>>auspicious, knowing the universe:
>>
>>"What he has realized by his own supernatural
>>knowledge he will publish to this universe. He will
>>preach his religion, glorious in its origin, glorious
>>at its climax, glorious at the goal, in the spirit and
>>the letter. He will proclaim a religious life, wholly
>>perfect and thoroughly pure; even as I now preach my
>>religion and a like life do proclaim. He will keep up
>>the society of monks numbering many thousands, even as
>>now I keep up a society of monks numbering many
>>hundreds".
>>
>>
>>B)
>>According to Sacred Books of the East volume 35 pg.
>>225:
>>
>>"It is said that I am not an only Buddha upon whom the
>>leadership and order is dependent. After me another
>>Buddha maitreya of such and such virtues will come. I
>>am now the leader of hundreds, he will be the leader
>>of thousands."
>>
>>
>>C)
>>According to the Gospel of Buddha by Carus pg. 217 and
>>218 (From Ceylon sources):
>>
>>"Ananda said to the Blessed One, ‘Who shall teach us
>>when thou art gone?'
>>
>>And the Blessed one replied, 'I am not the first
>>Buddha who came upon the earth nor shall I be the
>>last. In due time another Buddha will arise in the
>>world, a holy one, a supremely enlightened one,
>>endowed with wisdom in conduct, auspicious, knowing
>>the universe, an incomparable leader of men, a master
>>of angels and mortals. He will reveal to you the same
>>eternal truths, which I have taught you. He will
>>preach his religion, glorious in its origin, glorious
>>at the climax and glorious at the goal. He will
>>proclaim a religious life, wholly perfect and pure
>>such as I now proclaim. His disciples will number many
>>thousands while mine number many hundreds.'
>>
>>Ananda said, 'How shall we know him?'
>>
>>The Blessed one replied, 'He will be known as
>>Maitreya'."
>>
>>
>>(i)
>>The Sanskrit word ‘Maitreya’ or its equivalent in Pali
>>‘Metteyya’ means loving, compassionate, merciful and
>>benevolent. It also means kindness and friendliness,
>>sympathy, etc. One Arabic word which is equivalent to
>>all these words is ‘Rahmat’. In Surah Al-Anbiya:
>>
>>"We sent thee not, but as a mercy for all creatures."
>>[Al-Qur’an 21:107]
>>
>>Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was called the merciful, which
>>is ‘Maitri’.
>>
>>
>>(ii)
>>The words Mercy and Merciful are mentioned in the Holy
>>Qur’an no less than 409 times.
>>
>>(iii)
>>Every chapter of the Glorious Qur’an, except Chapter
>>9, i.e. Surah Taubah begins with the beautiful
>>formula, 'Bismillah Hir-Rahman Nir-Rahim', which means
>>'In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful'.
>>
>>(iv)
>>The Word Muhammad is also spelt as ‘Mahamet’ or
>>‘Mahomet’ and in various other ways in different
>>languages. The word ‘Maho’ or ‘Maha’ in Pali and
>>Sanskrit mean Great and Illustrious and ‘Metta’ means
>>mercy. Therefore ‘Mahomet’ means ‘Great Mercy’.
>>
>>2.
>>Buddha’s doctrine was Esoteric and Exoteric:
>>
>>According to Sacred Books of the East, volume 11, pg.
>>36 Maha-Parinibbana Sutta chapter 2 verse 32:
>>
>>"I have preached the truth without making any
>>distinction between exoteric and esoteric doctrine,
>>for in respect of truths, Ananda, the Tathagata has no
>>such thing as the closed fist of a teacher, who keeps
>>something back".
>>
>>Muhammad (pbuh) on the commandment of Almighty God
>>delivered the message and doctrine without making any
>>distinction between esoteric and exoteric. The Qur'an
>>was recited in public in the days of the Prophet and
>>is being done so till date. The Prophet had strictly
>>forbidden the Muslims from hiding the doctrine
>>
>>
>>3.
>>Devoted Servitors of the Buddhas:
>>
>>According to Sacred Books of the East volume 11 pg. 97
>>Maha-Parinibbana Sutta Chapter 5 verse 36:
>>
>>"Then the Blessed one addressed the brethren, and
>>said, ‘Whosoever, brethren have been Arahat-Buddhas
>>through the long ages of the past, they were servitors
>>just as devoted to those Blessed ones as Ananda has
>>been to me. And whosoever brethren shall be the
>>Arahat-Buddhas of the future, there shall be servitors
>>as devoted to those Blessed ones as Ananda has been to
>>me’."
>>
>>The Servitor of Buddha was Ananda. Muhammad (pbuh)
>>also had a servitor by the name Anas (r.a.) who was
>>the son of Malik. Anas (r.a...) was presented to the
>>Prophet by his parents. Anas (r.a...) relates: "My
>>mother said to him, 'Oh Messenger of God, here is your
>>little servant'." Further Anas relates, "I served him
>>from the time I was 8 years old and the Prophet called
>>me his son and his little beloved". Anas (r.a...)
>>stayed by the Prophet in peace and in war, in safety
>>as well as in danger till the end of his life.
>>
>>
>>i)
>>Anas (r.a.), even though he was only 11 years old
>>stayed beside the Prophet during the battle of Uhud
>>where the Prophet’s life was in great danger.
>>
>>ii)
>>Even during the battle of Honain when the Prophet was
>>surrounded by the enemies who were archers, Anas
>>(r.a...) who was only 16 years old stood by the
>>Prophet.
>>
>>Anas (R) can surely be compared with Ananda who stood
>>by Gautam Buddha when the mad elephant approached him.
>>
>>
>>4.
>>Six Criteria for Identifying Buddha:
>>
>>According to the Gospel of Buddha by Carus pg. 214:
>>
>>"The Blessed one said, ‘There are two occasions on
>>which a Tathagata’s appearance becomes clear and
>>exceedingly bright. In the night Ananda, in which a
>>Tathagata attains to the supreme and perfect insight,
>>and in the night in which he passes finally away in
>>that ultra passing which leaves nothing whatever of
>>his earthly existence to remain.’ "
>>
>>According to Gautam Buddha, following are the six
>>criteria for identifying a Buddha.
>>
>>
>>i)
>>A Buddha attains supreme and perfect insight at
>>night-time.
>>
>>ii)
>>On the occasion of his complete enlightenment he looks
>>exceedingly bright
>>
>>iii)
>>A Buddha dies a natural death.
>>
>>iv)
>>He dies at night-time.
>>
>>v)
>>He looks exceedingly bright before his death.
>>
>>vi)
>>After his death a Buddha ceases to exist on earth.
>>
>>
>> i) Muhammad (pbuh) attained supreme insight and
>>Prophethood at night-time.
>>
>>According to Surah Dukhan:
>>
>>"By the books that makes thing clear – We sent it down
>>during a blessed night."
>>[Al-Qur'an 44:2-3]
>>
>>According to Surah Al-Qadar:
>>
>>"We have indeed revealed this (message) in the night
>>of power."
>>[Al-Qur'an 97:1]
>>
>>
>>ii)
>>Muhammad (pbuh) instantly felt his understanding
>>illumined with celestial light.
>>
>>iii)
>>Muhammad (pbuh) died a natural death.
>>
>>iv)
>>According to Ayesha (r.a.), Muhammad (pbuh) expired at
>>night-time. When he was dying there was no oil in the
>>lamp and his wife Ayesha (r.a.) had to borrow oil for
>>the lamp.
>>
>>v)
>>According to Anas (r.a.), Muhammad (pbuh) looked
>>exceedingly bright in the night of his death.
>>
>>vi)
>>After the burial of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) he was
>>never seen again in his bodily form on this earth.
>>
>>5.
>>Buddhas are only Preachers:
>>
>>
>>According to Dhammapada, Sacred Books of East volume
>>10 pg., 67:
>>
>>"The Jathagatas (Buddhas) are only Preachers."
>>The Qur’an says in Surah Ghashiya:
>>"Therefore do thou give admonition, for thou art one
>>to admonish. Thou art not one to manage (men's)
>>affairs."
>>[Al-Qur'an 88:21-22]
>>
>>
>>6.
>>Identification of Maitreya by Buddha:
>>
>>According to Dhammapada, Mattaya Sutta, 151:
>>
>>"The promised one will be:
>>
>>i) Compassionate for the whole creation
>>
>>ii) A messenger of peace, a peace-maker
>>
>>iii) The most successful in the world.
>>
>>
>>The Maitreya as a Preacher of morals will be:
>>
>>i) Truthful
>>
>>ii) Self-respecting
>>
>>iii) Gentle and noble
>>
>>iv) Not proud
>>
>>v) As a king to creatures
>>
>>vi) An example to others in deeds and in words".

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