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Subject: Does this mean that the UNCP OT will not be allowed to crown her successor? Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 10:03:58 10/28/09 Wed In reply to: 's message, "The Charlotte pageant is not on the state website. I do not think it was renewed this year." on 09:58:53 10/28/09 Wed [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date Re: UNCP OT is appointed therefore she never crown her successor (NT) No name 10:06:44 10/28/09 Wed this should be fair. Other OT's have chosen to compete in Teen NC USA and not been able to represent their OT title afterwards. I would hope this would be the same case now. (NT) No name 10:08:53 10/28/09 Wed Not so in this case. Even Shane McCaleb competed last year and she retained her OT title. She placed at USA last year as I believe she will this year. (NT) -- No name, 19:03:23 11/01/09 Sun Shane McCaleb did NOT retained her OT title. (NT) -- No name, 17:52:59 11/03/09 Tue Contracts state 365 days or until crown successor. So she should have served 365 days. (NT) No name 11:15:33 10/28/09 Wed If there isn't a successor (prelim not renewed), shouldn't the titleholder be open to compete before the 365 days. (NT) -- No name, 11:21:12 10/28/09 Wed That is why Charlotte would be free. There is a successor to UNCP or are they not going to appoint this year? (NT) -- No name, 12:05:25 10/28/09 Wed They will appoint as they always do (NT) -- No name, 12:37:19 10/28/09 Wed Since the UNCP is appointed and the current OT does not crown, wouldn't she also be open to compete? I do have a separate question. If they do compete before the 365 days and do not win that title, can they make appearances after USA with their former OT titles? (NT) -- No name, 12:46:19 10/28/09 Wed They were not allowed to in the past two years. And I would think it would be respectful to honor the contract you sign so that you can compete at the state pageant. Not just complete at state and do at what you want afterwards. (NT) -- No name, 12:50:41 10/28/09 Wed I don't get why UNC-P gets to appoint their OT and everyone else has to compete. To make it fair for all if one appoints all should be able to if they so choose to like the princesses are chosen. (NT) -- No name, 12:47:56 10/28/09 Wed Maybe the Miss can APPOINT her teen ! Sure would save a lot of aggrevation and money . Then the chosen ones could still compete in their states. This would put the integrity back into the Miss America Pageant. (NT) -- No name, 12:50:38 10/28/09 Wed .because then the time spent during the pageant would be for the Miss and everything would be done in a quality way instead of a quantitiy way. Who knows, it may attract more Miss locals. (NT) -- No name, 12:52:40 10/28/09 Wed I don't think doing away with OT would increase Miss. If you don't increase the OT interest now in a few years there will be no Miss. (NT) -- No name, 13:46:56 10/28/09 Wed I'm not saying to do away with the OT, just get it the heck away from the Miss competition. USA 's got it down and make more money at it the smart way. You don't se their production bogged down by the teens . Appointing our teens would be pretty cool....why not have the "UNC-P PRIVELEGE" expanded........... (NT) -- No name, 14:08:27 10/28/09 Wed It is my understanding they conduct interviews for the OT, plus view a talent video. (NT) -- No name, 06:45:49 10/29/09 Thu Well, then, let the rest of the local FRANCHISES do the same. This is a FRANCHISE that has to be approved from the top. Things are suppose to be run the SAME WAY in a FRANCHISE. All others should be able to do the same thing. UNC-P should not be "special" ! (NT) -- No name, 08:04:27 10/29/09 Thu So the committee in a sense judges the contestants and picks who they want. (NT) -- No name, 09:28:52 10/29/09 Thu The judges consider: the application, essay, and talent CD. Then, they make their choice. ANYONE can apply from ANYWHERE. (NT) -- No name, 14:19:08 11/02/09 Mon So it is an OPEN...lol That is funny. (NT) -- No name, 03:29:51 11/03/09 Tue That is right! LOL! (NT) -- No name, 03:43:28 11/03/09 Tue You are referring to Scott and McNelis. Both girls can compete at USA and would only have a problem if they would happen to win. The boards really don't mention either one as major competitors because they are from the NCOT system. But wouldn't it just be funny if one of the several NCOT girls competing would do well at USA : Hipps, McCleland, McNelis, or Scott. I think the folks over on the USA board don't think they can even "walk across the stage" properly. LOL! (NT) -- No name, 18:57:25 11/01/09 Sun Add McCaleb to the list of prior NCOT's as well. She placed last year and probably will again this year. (NT) -- No name, 19:04:17 11/01/09 Sun From contract (click in ) says until my successor is selected or appointed. Basically, people just don't care to honor their signatures/word. -- No name, 12:54:59 10/28/09 Wed Does the UNCP OT sign the contract? I have never understood why they cannot have a separate committee (still associated with MUNCP) to hold the OT pageant. To say that the university will not allow them to spend funds on the OT program doesn't seem like enough of a reason for them to appoint. All the rest of the locals have to work out issues regarding venue, funding, etc. etc. etc. so I think all of them should have to operate under the same guidelines. But, they didn't ask me what I thought so I guess they can do it as they please. Doesn't really do much good to question anyway. -- No name, 14:23:03 10/28/09 Wed That's the problem with pretty much everything...a few are priveleged and all do not have to follow the same rules. This is what makes the public think that the system is corrupt.. If people would really really oppose this and make the enforcers enforce, it would be worth complaining about....Just have to keep at it ! -- No name, 14:49:01 10/28/09 Wed Actually, I think that Miss North Carolina would love for other colleges around the State to send girls to Miss NC. Additionally, Miss Lumbee DID send girls to Miss NC (in the past), but could not "legally" continue to do so since "only" Lumbee Indian girls were allowed to compete and it is a "cultural" pageant. -- No name, 19:00:25 11/01/09 Sun Does UNC-P support / spend funds in association with the Miss Lumbee Pageant? Just curious to know the answer given the angle that they can't support an OT because she doesn't attend the university. -- No name, 20:59:12 10/28/09 Wed They could hold a pageant outside of something funded by the university if they would simply have a committee that handled it. No university funds need be expended at all. It is a feeder system so could help to recruit students. -- No name, 04:38:38 10/29/09 Thu Maybe Miss Lumbee or Teen Lumbee should be the OT. At least there is a like competition for the title. -- No name, 08:05:51 10/29/09 Thu The Miss Lumbee pageant is sponsored by Lumbee Regional Development Association and is in no way affiliated with Miss UNCP..... -- No name, 13:29:22 10/29/09 Thu Who hasn't honored their contract? -- No name, 14:21:02 11/02/09 Mon UNCP OT when she competes next weekend. (NT) -- No name, 08:22:18 11/04/09 Wed How is that? (NT) -- No name, 15:23:39 11/06/09 Fri Who? (NT) -- No name, 15:25:07 11/06/09 Fri What thing did they do? (NT) -- No name, 15:25:26 11/06/09 Fri I imagine that both ladies were intelligent enough to "make sure" what they were "able" and "not able" to do "under contract" BEFORE applying to USA. Also, at State, both ladies carried themselves well and were well-liked by the other OT's and Miss Contestants so I don't imagine they've taken anything for granted where their "duties" are concerned. From what I understand both ladies are Honor students and can actually multi-task. In other words, they can put on their OT crown and sit at a preliminary pageant and represent their title AND walk across a stage a High Point in a swimsuit and evening gown. And since there are no preliminaries on November 14th, they shouldn't have any "duties" to attend to. My suggestion is that if you "really" want to know, contact them or the State directly instead of "gossiping", oops I meant "guessing" about what they can do. -- No name, 04:00:33 11/03/09 Tue If the crown is good enough to win on the night of winning, then it should be good enough and respected enough to represent until the end. What you have here are girls who have a different purpose for the crown than what was intended. Since their purpose was to win OT and they didn't, their purpose of the crown is now over. -- Multi -Tasking Abilities Have Nothing to Do With It ! (Plain and Simple !), 08:14:31 11/03/09 Tue But I thought "appointed" titles aren't as good as "winning" titles. People need to make up their minds about what was so important. -- No name, 12:48:12 11/03/09 Tue It did not matter with McNelis no Charlotte pageant. Brandi was aging out of OT and it probably did not mattet to her that she gives up her title now instead of later. (NT) -- No name, 09:27:29 11/03/09 Tue It is just a difference of opinion as to what is allowed and what is not allowed. Again, if someone has a problem, instead of being a cry baby about it on voy board where noone gets anything accomplished, contact the folks directly. (NT) -- No name, 12:45:59 11/03/09 Tue Oh,, ahaha....you'd be surprised who sees this....this is a good place to go to get your opinions heard....... ! (NT) -- No name, 13:17:37 11/03/09 Tue Then, like I said.....do something about (it) whatever you don't agree with. It is as simple as that! I would be willing to bet though, that you'll come out the loser....loser! (NT) -- No name, 15:57:33 11/03/09 Tue I don't really care, I just stated an opinion. We were chatting nicely until you had to enter your derogatory remark. No BIG L on this forehead......maybe you should look in the mirror b=4 you start judging people. (NT) -- Love It When People Think They Are Talking To Someone... (...and It's Not Really Them....), 17:28:31 11/03/09 Tue Sorry. Just seems like everyone is complaining. (NT) -- No name, 10:07:57 11/04/09 Wed After they walk across the stage in High Point, they have no more duties as an OT even if they don't win. Ask the other OT's who did. (NT) -- No name, 04:03:26 11/04/09 Wed