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Date Posted: 00:47:07 06/17/09 Wed
Author: Fresno St. Alum
Author Host/IP: 96.236.69.47
Subject: You need to put the new 49ers, Lions, Jags helmets up.

I don't know how you can do translucent teal for the jags. It sure doesn't look black when they are outside on tv. Too bad riddell isn't making a mini of the new Jags.

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[> I'd love to, but... -- charles arey, 10:42:19 06/18/09 Thu (12.77.94.142)

My access to the internet remains extremely limited at the present time - it's as though I've gone back in time to about 1996. I cannot view large files or load large web pages. Of course I want to depict the new NFL helmets as accurately as possible, lest I get a thousand critical emails, so I want to wait until I can get a good look at those new helmets (particularly the Jacksonville one) before I attempt to draw them.

I am waiting to have superior internet access installed, but there is only one such option in my area (AT&T) and they are now three weeks behind schedule.

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[> Re: You need to put the new 49ers, Lions, Jags helmets up. -- Rocky Stone, 03:53:03 06/29/09 Mon (76.252.31.221)

>I don't know how you can do translucent teal for the
>jags. It sure doesn't look black when they are outside
>on tv. Too bad riddell isn't making a mini of the new
>Jags.

I do look forward to seeing them, too. Chuck, I know you'll do a bang up job when completed!

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[> Re: You need to put the new 49ers, Lions, Jags helmets up. -- charles arey, 23:13:47 06/29/09 Mon (12.77.145.201)

Can anyone provide links to PHOTOGRAPHS (not artwork and not movies) of the new Lions and Jaguars helmets? (sorry if someone did this previously while I did not have internet access - I've looked through the old messages somewhat and didn't see what I was looking for). Thanks!

And am I correct in thinking that the "new" 49ers helmet is just a return to the old 1962-1995 (or whatever the years were) design? Thanks again!

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[> [> Re: You need to put the new 49ers, Lions, Jags helmets up. -- Hiatt Werling, 23:26:40 06/29/09 Mon (68.35.101.193)

Here is a picture of the Jaguars helmet:

http://forum.jaguars.com/uploads/gallery/1240425036/gallery_57_82505.jpg

And here is the Lions helmet:

http://1079thefox.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/lions_52761.jpg

As for the 49ers, I'm not entirely sure, but I think that the only difference between their new helmet and their '64-'95 helmet is that there is a space in between the red oval and the black outline, creating an additional gold ring. Here is a picture of it:

http://49ers.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p5959961dt.jpg

I hope that's some help to you!

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[> [> [> thanks for those :) -- charles arey, 21:31:45 06/30/09 Tue (12.77.141.118)

thanks for the pictures!

As for Jacksonville, I believe it would be prudent for me to wait and see the helmet on TV before I attempt to draw it. I kind of got the impression that the photograph you linked to may have been a deliberate attempt to bring out the green color in the helmet shell, and that it may actually be more subtle under normal lighting conditions.

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[> [> [> [> Re: thanks for those :) -- Hiatt Werling, 03:46:41 07/01/09 Wed (68.35.101.193)

You're welcome!

You're right about the Jaguars' helmet. From what I've seen of it, the helmet only really looks teal when light is shined directly at it. When not in direct light, the helmet looks black for the most part.

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[> Re: You need to put the new 49ers, Lions, Jags helmets up. -- No name, 12:58:07 07/01/09 Wed (65.112.121.29)

>I don't know how you can do translucent teal for the
>jags. It sure doesn't look black when they are outside
>on tv. Too bad riddell isn't making a mini of the new
>Jags.

basically 49ers return to 64-95 helmet but kept 96-08 logo

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[> [> Re: You need to put the new 49ers, Lions, Jags helmets up. -- x14113, 19:27:52 07/07/09 Tue (99.195.216.143)

That should be easy to duplicate--just make the white glow on the helmet teal instead.

Or is it really that easy?

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[> [> [> Jaguars -- charles arey, 14:19:52 07/09/09 Thu (12.77.145.98)

>That should be easy to duplicate--just make the white
>glow on the helmet teal instead.
>
>Or is it really that easy?

It indeed could be that easy, but I think I'd like to get a good look at the helmet (say, on television during a sunny day game) before I make that determination. Since the teams will be playing a month from now I might as well wait at this point before attempting to draw the helmet..

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[> more pics of Jags new lid on the field -- mm658, 15:39:20 07/05/09 Sun (71.233.138.199)

>>"As for Jacksonville, I believe it would be prudent for me to wait and see the helmet on TV before I attempt to draw it. I kind of got the impression that the photograph you linked to may have been a deliberate attempt to bring out the green color in the helmet shell, and that it may actually be more subtle under normal lighting conditions."


Actually, it looks teal pretty readily in sunlight.

Here's a link to a good shot:
http://forum.jaguars.com/index.php?autocom=gallery&req=si&img=2731
Click on the photo for a larger image.

Here's a link to some additional photo albums from mini-camp.
http://forum.jaguars.com/index.php?s=13d591f4ed4ce83e44020b134d5c7fab&autocom=gallery&req=sc&cat=12

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