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Date Posted: 13:12:11 10/29/16 Sat
Author: Nameless
Author Host/IP: 173.9.211.149
Subject: 2016 FBS helmets--Week 7 & 8
In reply to: Jeff Taylor 's message, "Week 8 FCS" on 17:07:19 10/26/16 Wed

Thanks for doing the FCS branch again, Jeff. Looking good as usual.

Let's get the updated orders in before I fall any further behind. These are the current orders that I have so far; I'm still unsure about the status of the California helmets (whether they're the same or are using two different shells). Changes for the past two weeks are indicated.

Atlantic Coast
ATLANTIC
Boston College: BAA-AAC-A [week 7 idle]
*Clemson: AAA-AAA-A [week 8 idle]
Florida State: AAA-AAA-A [week 8 idle]
*Louisville: BBF-FFG-F [G=black shell, red old English “L”, no stripe, black mask, http://www.goduke.com/PhotoAlbum.dbml?PALBID=1989158&DB_OEM_ID=4200]
North Carolina State: CCJ-JLJ-C
Syracuse: GCC-DHC-CD
Wake Forest: EAA-EAE-A [week 8 idle]

COASTAL
Duke: FFB-BBD-F [week 8 idle]
Georgia Tech: AAA-BAB-B [week 8 idle]
Miami (FL): AAA-AAA-A
*North Carolina: LLL-MML-MM
Pittsburgh: ABB-BAC-A [week 8 idle]
Virginia: IJJ-IJJ-I
*Virginia Tech: HWT-XHT-H

American Athletic
EAST
Cincinnati: KKJ-HGH-L [week 7 idle] [L=black shell, white numerals, two red stripes, black mask, http://www.gobearcats.com/view.gal?id=198224]
Connecticut: DEE-FDD-DD
East Carolina: GDH-EGI-J [week 7 idle; game v. Navy moved to 11/19] [I=“G” with a larger pirate logo, http://ecupirates.com/galleries/?gallery=1102; J= “D” with a larger pirate logo, http://ecupirates.com/galleries/?gallery=1105]
*South Florida: LFF-IGM-JI
Temple: LML-LNO-LL
Central Florida: BCD-CBB-D
WEST
Houston: GIA-GJB-GA
Memphis: DJK-DLM-N [M=“A” with a chrome grey mask, http://tulanegreenwave.com/galleries/?gallery=537; N=“D” with a white shell, http://www.navysports.com/view.gal?id=198199]
Navy: AAA-AAA [week 7 idle; game v. ECU moved to 11/19]
Southern Methodist: AAA-GAH-I [week 7 idle][I=blue matte shell, pink mustang logo, no stripe, blue mask, http://www.uhcougars.com/view.gal?id=198212]
Tulane: BBC-DEF-B [F=“E” with a grey mask, http://tulanegreenwave.com/galleries/?gallery=537]
Tulsa: DID-IJJ-I

Big Ten
EAST
Indiana: LAJ-CGM-N [M=red shell, grey numbers, no stripe, white mask, http://iuhoosiers.com/galleries/?gallery=3031; N=“I” with a grey mask, http://wac.b63f.edgecastcdn.net/80B63F/iuhoosiers-com/common/controls/image_handler.aspx?thumb_prefix=rp_primary&image_path=/images/2016/10/22/CAD23789.JPG]
Maryland: HHH-HHJ-J
*Michigan: AAA-AAA-A [week 7 idle]
Michigan State: AAA-AAA-A
*Ohio State: AAA-AAA-A
Penn State: AAA-AAA-A [week 7 idle]
Rutgers: QAA-AAR-AQ

WEST
Illinois: GGF-LGL-L
Iowa: AAA-AAA-AA
Minnesota: ABA-AAB-A
*Nebraska: AAA-BAA-A
Northwestern: BCJ-DBK-K [K=“D” with a purple shell, http://admin.nusports.com/galleries/?gallery=1295]
Purdue: ABA-GAA-B
Wisconsin: AAA-AAA-D

Big 12
*Baylor: AJE-FDI [week 8 idle]
Iowa State: ACA-AAD-E [week 8 idle] [E=“A” with a red mask, http://boards.sportslogos.net/uploads/monthly_2016_10/image.thumb.jpeg.f5d073b16773ca219fee8d873d7e2d90.jpeg]
Kansas: JOL-MPP-Q [Q=blue matte shell, small normal Jayhawk on left side, white numerals on right, white-red-white stripe, white mask, http://www.kuathletics.com/galleries/?gallery=755]
Kansas State: AAA-AAA-A
Oklahoma: AAA-AAB-A [B=“9/20/14” helmet]
Oklahoma State: COP-NQK-K [week 7 idle]
Texas: AAA-AAA-A
Texas Christian: NLK-NQN-K [week 7 idle]
Texas Tech: AMB-NLB-A
*West Virginia: IAA-CCA

Conference USA
EAST
Charlotte: AAB-ABD-DB
Florida Atlantic: HEG-HHG-G [week 8 idle]
Florida International: ACC-BAD-CA
Marshall: AAA-AAA-B [B=“10/3/15” helmet]
Middle Tennessee: IKI-FFG-E
Old Dominion: DJ[F1]-[F1]DD-D [week 7 idle]
Western Kentucky: ABA-AAA-BA

WEST
Louisiana Tech: DDF-DGD-DD
North Texas: GGG-FGG-E [week 7 idle]
Rice: GHD-DDD-C
Southern Mississippi: EEE-EEE-E [week 8 idle]
Texas-El Paso: CAA-CAA-A [week 7 idle]
Texas-San Antonio: AGA-GAA-A

Mid-American
EAST
Akron: JKJ-KLM-JN [N=“J” with a white mask, http://www.gozips.com/sports/fball/2016-17/photos/0019/index]
Bowling Green: EMG-GEN-HO [O=“E” with a brown-white-brown stripe, http://www.bgsufalcons.com/common/controls/image_handler.aspx?thumb_prefix=rp_primary&image_path=/images/2016/10/22/A86Y4770c.jpg]
Buffalo: JKK-GAL-M [L=“J” with a white shell, http://ubbulls.com/sports/fball/2016-17/photos/0005/index; M=“A” with a white stripe, http://ubbulls.com/sports/fball/2016-17/niu_pic.jpg]
Kent State: BCC-BDE-EF [F=the “1987-1988” helmet with a white shell, http://www.kentstatesports.com/images/2016/10/22/rp_primary_DSC_3270.jpg]
Miami (OH): EFE-EGF-EF
*Ohio: AAD-ADA-DD

WEST
Ball State: IJK-LML-KN [N=“K” with a red mask, http://www.gozips.com/sports/fball/2016-17/photos/0019/index]
Central Michigan: ABA-ACA-CA
Eastern Michigan: LLL-LLM-NL [N=flat black shell, metallic floorboard-textured “E”, green stripe, black mask, http://www.emueagles.com/common/controls/image_handler.aspx?thumb_prefix=rp_primary&image_path=/images/2016/10/15/Roback_vs_Ohio.jpg]
Northern Illinois: GJI-GKD-HD
*Toledo: QRR-RST-T [T=“P” with a blue-to-yellow airbrush shell, http://utrockets.com/galleries/?gallery=335]
*Western Michigan: TTU-VWX-UP

Mountain West
MOUNTAIN
Air Force: HIA-AJJ-A
*Boise State: FGF-GFL-G [L=“A” with a chrome grey mask, http://broncosports.cstv.com/view.gal?id=198028]
Colorado State: AAB-AAA-AA
New Mexico: HIG-JJK-L [K=white shell, teal monocolored logo on both sides, red-teal-red stripe, red mask, http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/afa/sports/m-footbl/auto_player/12172140.jpeg; L=“A” with a flat grey shell]
Utah State: BHI-BBA-E [week 7 idle]
Wyoming: QQQ-QQQ-Q [week 7 idle]

WEST
Fresno State: AAA-DAD-DD
Hawaii: BBB-BBB-BB
Nevada: BBB-BBB-BB
*San Diego State: AAA-AAA-A
San Jose State: AAA-AAA-AA
Nevada-Las Vegas: ABA-ACB-CA

Pac-12
NORTH
California: ABB-BAB-A [week 7 idle]
Oregon: H[AH][AI]-[AJ][AK][AL]-U [week 7 idle]
Oregon State: FGE-EEG-G
Stanford: AAA-ABA-A
*Washington: AAA-AAA-A [week 7 idle]
Washington State: ECF-GHG-F

SOUTH
Arizona: DDH-BEB-E [week 8 idle]
Arizona State: ARA-QKL-SJ [S=white shell, enlarged white pitchfork on right side, white numerals on left, no stripe, white mask, http://www.thesundevils.com/galleries/default.aspx?gallery=1016]
*Colorado: AEA-HHG-AG
California-Los Angeles: AAA-AAA-AA
Southern California: AAA-AAA-A [week 8 idle]
*Utah: OKO-PQL-IP

Southeastern
EAST
Florida: AAA-BAA [week 8 idle]
Georgia: AAA-AAA-A [week 8 idle]
Kentucky: FGF-FGG-H [week 7 idle] [H=“E” with new “UK” logo, http://hailstate.com/galleries/?gallery=1454]
Missouri: CAB-ACA-A
South Carolina: BBC-ACA-A [week 7 idle]
Tennessee: AAA-BAA-A [week 8 idle]
Vanderbilt: GFE-AEE-EA*-***

WEST
*Alabama: AAA-AAA-AA
Arkansas: AAA-AAA-AA
Auburn: AAA-AAA-A [week 7 idle]
Louisiana State: AAB-AAC-A [C=the “10/22/11” helmet proper]
Mississippi: AAA-AAB-B [B=powder blue helmet]
Mississippi State: JJJ-KJK-L [L=the “2004-2007” helmets with no stripe and white mask, http://hailstate.com/galleries/?gallery=1454]
*Texas A&M: AFB-AJA-A [week 7 idle]

Sun Belt
*Appalachian State: ABA-AAA-C [C=“A” with a pink ribbon within the “A” logo, http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics33/800/XA/XAXEEUUQMVKCIKM.20161022234251.jpg]
Arkansas State: IBA-JBK [week 7 idle] [K=“B” with a white shell, http://usajaguars.com/galleries/?gallery=623]
Georgia Southern: CAA-AAA-A
Georgia State: JII-III-J
Idaho: ABC-CDD-DD
Louisiana-Lafayette: NLP-LNQ-L
Louisiana-Monroe: GGG-GHE-E
New Mexico State: CCC-CDD-E [E=“D” with a white cowboy head on right, http://nmstatesports.com/common/controls/image_handler.aspx?thumb_prefix=rp_primary&image_path=/images/2016/10/22/IMG_9760.JPG]
South Alabama: ABC-CDB-B
Texas State: CFC-EED-D
*Troy: CAC-DAE-E [E=“C” with a white shell, http://troytrojans.com/galleries/?gallery=835]

Independents
Army West Point: AAA-AAA-A
Brigham Young: AAA-AAA-AA
Massachusetts: FBF-BFF-FF
Notre Dame: AAA-AAA-A [week 8 idle]

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[> [> Re: 2016 FBS helmets--Week 7 & 8 -- Jeff Taylor, 13:40:42 10/29/16 Sat (107.210.32.50)

I was on vacation this week, and wasted the whole thing doing this. The 60+ hour weeks of work have left me exhausted. As for Cal, I believe they are wearing their flat blues all year. Yes, the lighting has it so hard to see, as I had my sites which made it impossible to tell. I will have to see what happens to me to finish the year, or have a year end only add. Keep up the good work.

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[> [> [> Re: California & North Carolina -- Nameless, 15:36:41 10/29/16 Sat (173.9.211.149)

"Wasted"? Your work here is excellent. I can only describe what's on the new helmets because I don't have your artistic skills on the new designs. I'm not as punctual on the orders this year due to other commitments myself.

Thanks for the definitive answer on California. The lighting did alter the matte design upon closer glance, and so the Golden Bears get all A's.

And it appears that North Carolina had a tweak in their game against Virginia; their white mask became light blue:

http://boards.sportslogos.net/uploads/monthly_2016_10/maxresdefault.jpg.eeb568a46d4e328a0cc91caeb9b405d4.jpg

Changes will be reflected on the next set of orders, if I can get them in time.

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[> [> [> [> Re: California & North Carolina -- Jeff Taylor, 09:05:12 10/30/16 Sun (107.210.32.50)

I said wasted because I had a lot to do around the house and did nothing. I am no artist. I have been using Illustrator for 20 years, and still cannot do much on it. I use photoshop and crop Charles' or I have a template I use when I have something totally new. Anyway, I went through your list and mine and had to make 4 changes to mine. I did find these for you. North Carolina W8, blue facemask, not white
Virginia Tech No H, different stripe pattern, seperated
East Carolina has wore the larger pirate all year
UCF 6th game was new helmet with knight on one side, and different color logo on other
FAU game 5 wore red helmet, not blue http://www.fiusports.com/galleries/?gallery=165
Akron game 7 also wore N
Eastern Michigan wore white M helmets in game 4 against Wyoming
Northern Illinois wore chrome mask for game 8
Western Michigan had brown mask in game 7
Air Force wore their A helmets week 1, blue helmets week 5 and grey helmets week 6
Idaho wore D week 1
UL Monroe wore Maroon mask week 3 and 4 “H” Making week 5 “I” and week 7 maroon mask


Most school sites are cutting back on good photos, and you have to search all over. With Charles only doing ones when he gets a proper copy of the logo, and it is a good idea, he may never be able to keep up with all of the changes.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Addressing the corrections -- Nameless, 15:26:27 11/01/16 Tue (128.248.217.244)

With regards to the previous corrections:

Virginia Tech: Minute difference in stripes, but it’s there. It appears that Mr. Arey also believes “H” was used… To sync with your update, the new helmet is now labeled as “W” (as “‘V’ with a maroon mask”) and changes are made to the timeline to bump the other letters back by one. Although that could change with what Mr. Arey has now updated with…

ECU: I have confirmed all large pirate decals for 2016; another rearrangement of letters and we’re good to go there.

UCF: That’s what I get when I assumed one side on the left says “UCF” and must be that particular helmet we’ve seen before…

FAU: New helmet has now been designated “I”.

Air Force: Huh, they never wore the F-22 Raptor pattern? Or was that a concept helmet only? The other changes have been made.

Idaho: With that correction, all letters are shifted up one (I’m assuming the gold “2015-” helmet is still considered an alternate and will be designated “B”).

ULM: Must have missed the maroon mask earlier. Changes have been made to the order again.

And I already have the correct orders for NIU and WMU with the mask discrepancies. Next thread will have all the updated orders again, just in time before the MAC starts their slate of Tuesday night games.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Addressing the corrections -- Jeff Taylor, 20:08:52 11/01/16 Tue (107.210.32.50)

Life was much more simple in the 70s when I started drawing them out with colored pencils. One helmet all year. I know it is a bit nit picky on VT, but all their '16 helmets have the same stripe patterns. I have been all over the Air Force site, and saw pics for the game, and no raptor helmet. Just that ugly bomber helmet they wore for their 2nd game. I have missed a facemask or 2 myself. You get use to seeing one thing, and that subtle change is quickly overseen.

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