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Date Posted: 15:14:32 12/05/20 Sat
Author: charles arey
Author Host/IP: 40.138.173.197
Subject: can you identify these people? (c.1960 NFL sideline photograph)

A visitor to the website sent me this photo, wanting to see if I could identify the people pictured. He had been led to believe that these were Dallas Cowboys players (hence a suspected previously-unknown helmet design) but I thought right away that these were actually some Cleveland Browns:

https://imgur.com/a/3qjS3jv

The photograph is probably from 1960 or 1961, but could be from some other year.

I think #74 in the middle is Mike McCormack (looks like him compared with other photos). The Browns' roster for
both 1960 and 1961 identifies #88 as Rich Kreitling, but not enough of his face is visible to allow a positive identification.

I think the guy at far left has a 6 as the first digit of his uniform number and might be #68, Larry Stephens. There is nothing to identify the second guy from left other than his face, but since the league was still poorly integrated at that time, there may be only a few possible Black players to compare him with.

As far as documented helmet designs are concerned, the Browns would seem to be the only possibility, but it would seem at least possible to me that there may yet remain some "unknown" preseason designs, or pre-1960 designs, since I've never done any research on those.

Am I correct about this being the Cleveland Browns (helmet and uniform look right, I think), and can anybody identify the players?

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>A visitor to the website sent me this photo, wanting >to see if I could identify the people pictured. He had >been led to believe that these were Dallas Cowboys >players (hence a suspected previously-unknown helmet >design) but I thought right away that these were >actually some Cleveland Browns: > >https://imgur.com/a/3qjS3jv > >The photograph is probably from 1960 or 1961, but >could be from some other year. > >I think #74 in the middle is Mike McCormack (looks >like him compared with other photos). The Browns' >roster for >both 1960 and 1961 identifies #88 as Rich Kreitling, >but not enough of his face is visible to allow a >positive identification. > >I think the guy at far left has a 6 as the first digit >of his uniform number and might be #68, Larry >Stephens. There is nothing to identify the second guy >from left other than his face, but since the league >was still poorly integrated at that time, there may be >only a few possible Black players to compare him with. > >As far as documented helmet designs are concerned, the >Browns would seem to be the only possibility, but it >would seem at least possible to me that there may yet >remain some "unknown" preseason designs, or pre-1960 >designs, since I've never done any research on those. > >Am I correct about this being the Cleveland Browns >(helmet and uniform look right, I think), and can >anybody identify the players?
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