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Date Posted: 19:57:35 07/24/08 Thu
Author: Theresa
Subject: I agree doc, but I will take it a step further and say that Harm Sr. wasn't a good man. Good men don't cheat. That's pretty basic. Especially right after they talk about their wife and child to the woman they're about to cheat with. It's not like he wasn't thinking or that Trish was far from his mind. He just got it on with Jenny Lake because he felt like it. What an ass!
In reply to: doc 's message, "Actually, they weren't seeing each other. Harm said in "Skeleton Crew" that he & Diane were just friend. He said they always played by the rules, and they were going to get together that weekend to decide about pursuing something more. Obviously, the "something more" never happened. It wasn't until later seasons that Harm spoke of a deep caring & ultimately loving Diane. It was as if her loss, made him believe there was something more. (inside)" on 18:13:41 07/24/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> Excuse me--just have to get my two cents' in (inside) -- highplainswoman, 21:36:08 07/24/08 Thu

Good men are human--and war, especially conflicts like Vietnam, and now, Iraq and Afghanistan, will make good human beings act in ways they wouldn't consider under different circumstances!!

When people make "judgmental-type" of statements without having "walked the walk" (in this case, in all likihood, not having served in any capacity in the military in any circumstance), in my mind, they display a remarkable ignorance in understanding both human behavior AND the nature of war--not to mention rather shallow thinking!!

In this case, I'm not sure about Jenny Lake and how to make that particular judgment call; however, Harm Sr., in living with Sergei's mother, was grasping at whatever happiness/hope--or even will to live after being a POW for those many years. As was stated in "Legacy" (and I don't remember which part), Harm Sr. had very little hope and/or chance of ever getting back home to Trish in the United States--stuck in Siberia!!--in the middle of the old Soviet Union, without citizenship papers or proof of identity. And being an American, especially during that time period of the cold war, the odds of him getting home were slim to none!! The Soviets would have made darn sure of that!! So--was Harm Sr. "wrong" or "evil" or "bad" for seeking what little comfort he could get in the remaining years of his life???

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[> [> [> [> [> Did I say anything about Sergei's mom? No, I didn't. I get that one. What I don't get is a man telling someone about his wife and child and then sleeping with another woman in the space of a day. And if decent people can't make "judgement" calls on what's right and wrong, then I guess none of us could ever really make promises or vow to do the right thing by our spouses, because unless we've stood in the shoes of a cheater we can't say that it's wrong to be one. Well you know what, that's just crap. -- Theresa, 22:25:31 07/24/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Some of us aren't totally convinced that Harm Sr had sex with Jenny Lake. They could have talked all night, because he was still worried that if he left her alone, she might make another attempt to kill herself. -- nancyeddy, 22:33:33 07/24/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> I agree. I could make an argument either way. I personally am glad they left it ambiguous, so we could believe what we want. -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 22:37:00 07/24/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Okay, I'll ammend my statement to say "supposing that Harm Sr. had sex with Jenny Lake..." Though his kissing her doesn't really make him that great either. -- Theresa, 22:38:09 07/24/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I really gave this some thought(geez, I need to get a life) Let think in practicalities. Where would they have.....done the deed? Whatever anyone thinks of Harm Sr. infedelities, etc. He appeared to be a compassionate person who had just pulled a young woman away from suicide. I cant see him doing a long slow...s###w against the wall(er bulkhead) There was just nowhere for them to be together like that. Holding her, kissing her would be something he could break away from if anyone approached, I dont see how he could have really done anything more involved than that. -- mkim So thats my story and I'm sticking to it., 23:26:37 07/24/08 Thu


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