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Date Posted: 10:16:26 03/11/14 Tue
Author: highplainswoman
Subject: Love the discussion below--and here's one that might be a bit more controversial. (Inside)

I love the discussion going on below and I hate to "interrupt" this; however, there's a couple more questions I'm throwing out there for general discussion.

I just spent a very early morning two hours (more-or-less) reviewing "Ice Queen/Meltdown" taking copious notes. And I've got a couple of observations to make:

After all this time, it's relatively "easy" to maintain some detachment for most episodes, even the ones that are most gut-wretching for shipper fans. And I've been "re-viewing" those two specific eps in great detail. First off-the-cuff observation: even from a somewhat-detached POV, the writers were able to write the script in such a way to deliver maximum emotional impact. However, in doing so, they wrote more innuendo and implication than clarity. It was never certain to me, after watching those two eps for the first time, just why Gibbs had doubts as trial was approaching. And, by the way, I know there's been all kinds of estimations about how much time Harm spent sitting in a cell, from two weeks on out. Here, at least, the writers were clearer when Faith Coleman asks Harm why he didn't tell his story to NCIS "six weeks ago" when he relayed his story to her. I understand just why that little detail got lost for all kinds of reasons. I also know Faith Coleman has gotten kind of a bum rap in fan fiction; however, looking at these two eps, she's gotten an unfair rap. (It's all that "squared-away-ed-ness" [I know--I just made up that word, but I think you catch my drift.] that captured the most attention. However, after looking at it in exquisite detail, Major McBurney is a lousy prosecutor. Between the awfulness of McBurney's prosecution AND Gibbs' doubts--and the "rush-to-judgement", Harm got off.

Opinions on these two eps, anyone??

And if you have access to "Bridging the Gulf" in late Season 9/early season 10 [those two seasons kinda blend together for me), there is a scene about halfways, maybe more, where I swear Harm was holding a burning cigar. I promise, I will take another look at that but does anyone else see it, too--or am I just imagining things??

Thanks for all the expressed viewpoints: they are all both thoughtful and insightful.

Happy Tuesday, everybody!!

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[> I haven't watched those eps since they were on, so I don't remember much except the faceless body of "Singer" in Ducky's morgue, and Harm smacking the two-way mirror in anger and frustration, knowing Gibbs was on the other side. They were real emotional eps for us JAG fans, and the production style really enhanced the cognitive dissonance. I wonder if the eps on the DVDs were "edited" in any way, compared to the original. Would be an interesting project for a rainy afternoon, if I still had a VCR. -- The Chief, 23:59:55 03/11/14 Tue

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[> Opinions -- Alicia, 23:43:06 03/28/14 Fri

A little late to your post..but I just stumbled on the board.

a) You are not imagining it. He is smoking a cigar when he is meeting with the locals to gather his information.

b)As I just started watching JAG over the last couple of months-- a little late to the party lol -- I just happened to see Ice Queen and Meltdown. I do love the dance between Gibbs and Rabb. Both definitely cut from the same cloth.

c)Playing along with the characters-
** It was established Rabb was the best, and of a higher character.
** It was a sloppy crime, antithetical to Rabb's nature.
** Their case came about with Rabb trying to protect his brother. For Rabb it was all about Sergei and shielding him.
** Gibb's knew this is what gave him his case, and became the source of doubt. Rabb's efforts were not to eliminate himself as a suspect but his brother.
** The final one on one between Gibb's and Rabb gave him a good, calmer opportunity to look into Rabb's eyes as he spoke, confirming what was bothering him.

I like that they did this in a subtle way. Gibb's in some respects was acting in a similar manner as Rabb's character would.

It's interesting to see how the NCIS characters also changed from this introduction.

It doesn't seem much was done in the aftermath of this on the show in referencing the events as it seems it went directly to Paraguay. I am still navigating the shows.

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