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Date Posted: 11:50:04 03/22/08 Sat
Author: The Chief (not trying to stir anything up, but I think these factors are valid in the discussion, as well)
Subject: Just a quick reply (and I didn't read the link), but I thought Mac's PTSD was a result of her being a prisoner, almost-tortured, etc, and not having as much "combat" experience as Harm. And possibly Harm had better coping mechanisms.
In reply to: Ann 's message, "Retrying post on Mac, Harm, and PTSD" on 21:36:48 03/21/08 Fri


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[> [> Does she have less combat experience than Harm? I thought it was the other way around as he was usually in a jet and then on a carrier while she was on the ground in the thick of things. During the wars she was involved in, the women were right there on the line with the men. Don't the Marine's train for combat more than the Navy trains their pilots? Just wondering. -- Theresa, 12:25:09 03/22/08 Sat


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[> [> [> Combat isn't just on the ground..... And from what we've discussed over and over around here, Mac spent much of her time in admin posistions before becoming a lawyer. TRAINING for combat isn't the same as being IN combat. And from just what we saw on 10 years of the show, Harm spent more time with a gun chasing and shoot at (and being shot at by) bad guys. (don't forget season 1) -- The Chief, 15:32:22 03/22/08 Sat


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[> [> [> [> That's true, Chief. But Mac had time in Bosnia - on the ground. I'm thinking any time in a war zone isn't the same as time stateside, even for an admin. And we also saw that Mac was a much better shot than Harm. But I doubt the writers had any knowledge of the link between the environment a person is raised in and PTSD. I think Mac got it because she was female, and they all considered women as less able than men. -- NanaSue, 16:21:23 03/22/08 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> Webb got it, too, but TPTB never really considered him a man's man. I think the truth is that they wouldn't give their hero that kind of perceived weakness. Just like we joke about how they made Mac infertile to stave off the baby deal, but would never in a million years give Harm the same problem. -- lska, 19:26:16 03/22/08 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> "Mac was a much better shot than Harm"??? I don't remember that. Was there a "shootout" in the handgun range in the basement of the Pentagon that I missed?? And Mac's "time on the gound in Bosnia" was never fully clarified as far as I can remember, either. According to her timeline, that has been researched and studied by her ardent fans, I don't remember her having more time in combat than Harm. -- The Chief - I still think her PTSD was a result of less adequate coping mechanisms, stemming from unresolved issues surrounding her alcoholism., 15:59:40 03/25/08 Tue


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[> [> I would agree that Harm has better coping mechanisms. He held on to some things from his childhood and young adulthood for a long time, but seemed to cope well with the things that happened during the series. I wonder about combat experience, though, because I would tend to think that more of it would make you *more* likely to get PTSD. If it was a deterrent, none of the soldiers returning from Iraq would have PTSD, and unfortunately we know that isn't the case. -- lska, 12:30:57 03/22/08 Sat


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