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Date Posted: 14:34:57 03/30/09 Mon
Author: Anonymous
Subject: Re: Cities of America by Nationals, Inc pageant
In reply to:
's message, "Re: Cities of America by Nationals, Inc pageant" on 09:47:03 01/21/04 Wed
For everybody's Information their website is Nationalsincorporated.com you dumb bells all you hav to do is search it or Google Cities of America Pageant.Another thing this is not a scam cuz I won 1st runner up in the city division and now Iget to go to Orlando cuz your not suppose to pay for nothing you are suppose to get sponsors.Only thing u pay for is clothes.Also When you get there there is money when you win.Dont be callin it a scam cuz youre daughter didnt win.Cuz I bet Most of you didnt even read the papers good.Cuz 'coures they want some moneydo u really think it is free especially in this economy.Another thing Iwant you guys to think before you go talkin bout people when you dont know the real stuff.If u want to know more about pageant My email is arrow.carlissa@yahoo.com Since i was actually was in the pageant
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Re: Cities of America by Nationals, Inc pageant -- Anonymous, 12:20:43 10/02/13 Wed
Please do your research before competing in this pageant system. Google the name "Patty Neider" under pageant scams before giving them a penny. Patty is "your director." There are many reputable pageants out there, but this does not appear to be one of them. And, unless you can attend the Nationals in Orlando the week of December 12-16, 2013, and pay for an adult to accompany you (at least $1,000 for the week plus airfare) don't bother. The adult will be expected to accompany the winner on all trips to Disney World, Sea World or wherever at their own expense. Besides, most kids have SCHOOL and all national pageants are run in the year of reign - 2014 - not 2013. Other red flags include their scoring system. The first two areas of competition determine the Top Ten. Then ALL SCORES ARE ROLLED BACK TO ZERO and the winner is determined by a SINGLE QUESTION. So, no matter how well you do overall, it will NOT determine the winner. To me, this leaves a lot of room for winner manipulation. The expensive entry fee of $495 includes nothing besides "training" and the optional photogenic fee of $125 is ridiculous. Don't be mislead by the offer of free photos - only the "sitting" is free. You need to pay big bucks to get the photos. Besides, this isn't even a state title, just a city title. Check around. Nearly all entry fees include an opening number dress, reception, gift bag, and so on. Check out other pageant listings for Minnesota and you'll see that the reputable ones have their own sponsors. These sponsors award prizes to the contestants and winners, such as coaching packages, discounts on pageant wear, discounts on photography, hair and makeup services, scholarships, personal training packages, and so on. This pageant has absolutely no sponsors whatsoever (maybe they don't want their names associated with it). Another red flag is that this pageant is not associated with any charities or platforms. This is highly unusual. And, there are no appearances arranged for the winners after the pageant. The winners are "on their own." Again, finally, there is nothing stated about returning for the 2015 pageant to crown a successor. Usually, these expenses are always included in the winners' prize packages. Who's to say they'll be back? Reputable pageants return year after year. I encourage you to do your own research and decide before you shell out a ton of money, especially when the entire pageant hinges on one question. What if there are only 8 contestants? Everyone makes the Top Ten and you might as well show up in your pajamas, answer the question and move on. For all you know, the winner has been predetermined and you are just helping to pay for their vacation. Please be careful and do your research. Then you can make an informed decision with all of the facts before you end up losing a lot of money and shattering your daughter's dreams. This pageant is very sketchy. Consider yourself warned.
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Re: Cities of America by Nationals, Inc pageant -- Anonymous, 12:20:59 10/02/13 Wed
>Please do your research before competing in this
>pageant system. Google the name "Patty Neider" under
>pageant scams before giving them a penny. Patty is
>"your director." There are many reputable pageants
>out there, but this does not appear to be one of them.
> And, unless you can attend the Nationals in Orlando
>the week of December 12-16, 2013, and pay for an adult
>to accompany you (at least $1,000 for the week plus
>airfare) don't bother. The adult will be expected to
>accompany the winner on all trips to Disney World, Sea
>World or wherever at their own expense. Besides, most
>kids have SCHOOL and all national pageants are run in
>the year of reign - 2014 - not 2013. Other red
>flags include their scoring system. The first two
>areas of competition determine the Top Ten. Then ALL
>SCORES ARE ROLLED BACK TO ZERO and the winner is
>determined by a SINGLE QUESTION. So, no matter how
>well you do overall, it will NOT determine the winner.
> To me, this leaves a lot of room for winner
>manipulation. The expensive entry fee of $495
>includes nothing besides "training" and the optional
>photogenic fee of $125 is ridiculous. Don't be
>mislead by the offer of free photos - only the
>"sitting" is free. You need to pay big bucks to get
>the photos. Besides, this isn't even a state title,
>just a city title. Check around. Nearly all entry
>fees include an opening number dress, reception, gift
>bag, and so on. Check out other pageant listings for
>Minnesota and you'll see that the reputable ones have
>their own sponsors. These sponsors award prizes to
>the contestants and winners, such as coaching
>packages, discounts on pageant wear, discounts on
>photography, hair and makeup services, scholarships,
>personal training packages, and so on. This pageant
>has absolutely no sponsors whatsoever (maybe they
>don't want their names associated with it). Another
>red flag is that this pageant is not associated with
>any charities or platforms. This is highly unusual.
>And, there are no appearances arranged for the winners
>after the pageant. The winners are "on their own."
>Again, finally, there is nothing stated about
>returning for the 2015 pageant to crown a successor.
>Usually, these expenses are always included in the
>winners' prize packages. Who's to say they'll be
>back? Reputable pageants return year after year. I
>encourage you to do your own research and decide
>before you shell out a ton of money, especially when
>the entire pageant hinges on one question. What if
>there are only 8 contestants? Everyone makes the Top
>Ten and you might as well show up in your pajamas,
>answer the question and move on. For all you know,
>the winner has been predetermined and you are just
>helping to pay for their vacation. Please be careful
>and do your research. Then you can make an informed
>decision with all of the facts before you end up
>losing a lot of money and shattering your daughter's
>dreams. This pageant is very sketchy. Consider
>yourself warned.
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