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Subject: Regine Insulted by Victim


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Phil. Daily Inquirer, Jan. 20, 2004


Regine Insulted
by Dolly Anne Carvajal

Regine Velasquez got so pissed at the staff of "Victim" for playing a prank
on her.

The staff got some pseudo-Taiwanese fans with CDs and posters of her,
complete with Chinese inscriptions. After being nice to the "fans," Regine
got the shock of her life when they suddenly talked to her in Tagalog. When
the crew shouted that she's on "Victim," the songbird walked out and
reprimanded them for making her look like a fool. She snapped at them,
"Subukan niyong ipalabas 'yan!"

Regine has all the right to feel insulted. For "Victim's" part, such stuff
is a given in the show, but maybe they should be more selective in choosing
the celebrities on whom to play their tricks. Humor is a tricky thing. What
may seem funny to somebody may be all that matters to someone else.

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[> Subject: Info on prank show- "Victim" Part I


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Date Posted: 04:57:46 01/24/04 Sat
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Date: Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:30 pm
Subject:
Info on prank show- "Victim" Part I

Some info gathered from the Inquirer newspaper..

( note- I was WAAAY behind on the loop. I didn't
know that Carlos was the host of that show. Turns
out he's the perfect person for that show, pala!
Only an a****ole would want to take a job like
that! lolz.. pissing off fellow celebs I mean.
But I have nothing against him personally. I bet
he knew what he was getting himself into with
the nature of what the show is.- mmJ )


" Vulnerable Victims "
Posted: 10:38 PM (Manila Time) | Jan. 15, 2004
Inquirer News Service

LAST January 10, ABS-CBN's "Victim" disturbed the viewers at our
household when it played what we felt was a cruel practical joke on a
group of children.

It was supposed to be "all for fun," but when the children cried,
believing the "fix" they were in to be real, we concluded that the
show had gone too far.

The set-up: The children were individually made to do some indoor
putting, but the ball they hit got dented or broken, so they were
each told to pay for the damage.

Since they were little kids, many of them had no money on them, or
not enough, so they were pressured to part with some of their
belongings. The threat appeared real, so the kids ended up crying --
some, quite hysterically.

Later, when the "joke" was revealed to them, it took the children
some time to regain their composure.

We aren't expert at child psychology, but the kids' tears disturbed
us. They looked so scared and pathetic that we concluded that no joke
or "fun" prank was worth the emotional strain that the children were
made to experience.

If some child psychologists read this, we request them to share with
us their thoughts on this matter of subjecting kids to stress and
fear in the name of "fun."

Are we being excessively protective of children? Or is there reason
for us to be concerned about the negative effect of such an
experience on kids?

Some TV workers may say that, since the kids in question were
performers, they would be used to show business' way of doing things,
and would thus not be as badly affected as non-show biz children.

Is this in fact the case? The kids we saw were really sobbing,
because they were made to believe that they were in a bad fix.

Although we were disturbed by what we saw, we're keeping an open mind
on the negative effects on the children in question, until child
psychologists express their more informed opinion on the subject.

If their conclusion is that our concern is excessive, fine. But if
negative effects are indeed perceived, we urge our TV people to
listen, and adjust the way they handle their "victims," especially
when they're young and vulnerable.

Fun's fun, but some pranks rankle, and irresponsible comic set-ups
can be major downers.

For greater enlightenment, we urge the TV people involved in "Victim"
to view the show's January 14 tape again, analyze the "prank" in
question, and determine if their work on it was excessive.

Let's hope that their conclusion and that of the child psychologists
jibe.

*********** END OF ARTICLE ************

Note: another article (part II)
is following this post. -mmJ




>Phil. Daily Inquirer, Jan. 20, 2004
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>Regine Insulted
>by Dolly Anne Carvajal

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Date Posted: 05:00:00 01/24/04 Sat
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Date: Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:37 pm
Subject: Info on prank show- "Victim" Part II


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This is the follow up to the post found at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/regine_velasquez/message/7155



MTRCB: EPISODE NOT OFFENSIVE
'Victim' irks viewers;
ABS-CBN explains side

Posted: 10:46 PM (Manila Time) | Jan. 21, 2004
By Marinel R. Cruz
Inquirer News Service

ABS-CBN said it "did not mean to terrorize the children" in an
episode of its new reality TV program, "Victim," where a practical
joke was played on a group of child actors.

In a statement sent to Inquirer Entertainment on Tuesday, the network
said it did not intend to cause "emotional strain" on child actors
Yuki, Christel Fulgar and Jane Onesa, among others, in the Jan. 10
episode of "Victim."


"While it is true that these kids are performers and are used to show
business, it was not the program's intention to subject them to
stress and fear," said the statement, "but only to test how far they
could handle such situations."

The Jan. 10 episode of "Victim" drew complaints from viewers who were
concerned about the negative effects of the experience on children.

"We admit, though," said the statement, "(that) it was unfortunate
that the fix went beyond what the children could handle, considering
their age and vulnerabilities."

Not offensive or objectionable

The usually watchful and strict Movie and Television Review and
Classification Board (MTRCB), however, told Inquirer Entertainment
that it did not find the Jan. 10 episode of "Victim" offensive or
objectionable.

MTRCB Chair Marissa Laguardia clarified that the censors board did
not issue any warning against the network for the "Victim" episode.

"There was no need for it because there was nothing vulgar or
offensive about that episode," said Laguardia said on Wednesday.

As part of the joke, the children were each made to do some indoor
putting. The balls they hit got dented or broken, so the children
were told to pay for the damage.

But most of the kids had no money on them, or not enough, so they
were pressured to part with some of their belongings. It appeared so
real that some of the children ended up crying in full view of the
camera.

Because of the unfavorable response of viewers to the episode, the
people behind the show were now "playing it safe," said "Victim" host
Carlos Agassi.

Too delicate

"But we've always been conscious not to offend the sensibilities of
viewers," said Carlos over lunch with entertainment writers on Monday.

"We discuss everything with our bosses," he said. "We always make
sure to edit out anything that could be viewed as too delicate."

Carlos is also the show's second unit director and creative
consultant.

"Victim," which airs every Saturday at 9 p.m. on ABS-CBN, is now on
its third month. Its pilot episode featured an actor posing as a
movie scribe and pretending to have an epileptic seizure while
interviewing actress Angelika de la Cruz.

"Everyone was nervous," recalled Carlos. "We didn't know how Angelika
would react."

Maricel Soriano, Aiko Melendez, Sunshine Cruz, Zsa Zsa Padilla, Boy
Abunda, the members of the Aegis band and Masculados and Lipa City
Mayor Vilma Santos were among the other celebrities who also fell for
the show's practical jokes, according to Carlos.

"Most of them would say, 'I'm gonna get back at you, Carlos,'" said
the actor host. "But none of them ever did. It was good that, so far,
none of the artists we've 'victimized' got mad at us."

He added that some of these celebrities even volunteered to help him
set up a prank for some of their friends.

This Saturday's episode will feature Carlos and the show's staff
members playing pranks on singer Gary Valenciano.


******** END OF ARTICLE *********

Note: Did he say none of the victims got mad?! According to the
article that was posted by 2Net Regine was sounding like she was
no happy camper about it. -mmJ

(Someone write in and correct his statement. I only fry
the big fishs. lolz..)

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