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Subject: Re: Norrod Answer and Explanation

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Date Posted: 11:32:19 02/21/06 Tue
In reply to: BILLYT 's message, "Re: Norrod Answer and Explanation" on 05:25:23 02/21/06 Tue

> All above said is so True . Yet it's the same story every generation. I hope that one day there will be a time where it's not about Us and become's about them again , ( the DOG'S ) Really Now.
And My hat's off to anyone weither they are Well Known n breeding Cur or just got in a got lucky with a few Ch's, Breeding isn't and easy and never will be just look at mankind itself that should speak enough for all to see.
Stay True STAY GAME..

I read Mikes post and it was right on the money.Its
>not to
>say that what you are doing will not work,but where
>you made
>the statement that you keep what you have and don't
>let it out goes in your favor.
>As Mike said if you produce a world beater and its in
>anothers hands there is a percentage that will indeed
>the pedigree.
>The part of if somehow someone was able to get a
>feamle off you there again is a high percentage that
>they will indeed breed her and because of her blood
>will try and cash in on the pups and under bid
>you.And in most cases it would be as if they were
>giveing the dogs away.
>FLoyd asked what most seem as alot of money for his
>pups.But when one spends a life time of trial and
>error and hits gold there is no reason to more or less
> give them away.
>Example at a show in La.I met some locals from New
>they said they were selling the same line as FLoyd but
>almost a thousand $$$$$ cheaper or for three hundered
>Now that is bad enough but as with every line out
>there today if someone has your line and the dogs
>don't pan out the bashing and name calling will start
>and never stop.
>One other thing if others belief you can help them in
>anyway they will indeed be your good ole boy but if
>you give the help and it does not turn out or you get
>out of dogs you find out in a hurry just who your
>friends are.
>But I belief you already know that part.I met the
>breeder of the MOLLYBEE dogs and was fasinated in his
>I will go on record as to say in all these years I
>never seen pups that looked better then he produced.I
>mean fat healthy,papered pups out of proven blood and
>the papers had no flaws in them.
>He sold the pups for around three hundered and was
>from what I observed an honest man.
>He told me when I asked why so cheap and from a
>bloodline second to none.
>He said there are those that will make the blood stand
>out and prove to all that its worth its weight in gold.
>But then he took me by surprize and said within a year
>or more most will call him and ask if they could trade
>the now young dog back for another pup.
>He explained to me although these are not bad dogs
>they are more then most can handle and he even was
>given that $300.00
>pup back for nothing in return.
>He knew his dogs and when someone gave or traded for
>another pup he would keep the young dog and wait for
>it to mature.He was batting close to eighty five
>percent that after keeping them until they matured
>they were sold for three times the amount as most
>turned out and increased his rep ten fold as he
>himself was not into the fun and games of long ago.Man
>was that fellow smart and had the knownledge to boot.
>I said years ago that no matter what line of dogs each
>of those that I called friends had that we would never
>let the dogs ruin our friendship.
>Well I got out of the dogs and I thought I had the
>black plaque as there were very few days that went by
>that someone did not come over to shoot the lingo.
>I still have a couple that are friends that we can
>converse with each other on other subjects but after
>reading what Mike said it sure is true.People (not)
>will be your bud until there is no need for your
>presence anymore.
>I got older and my thinking became somewhat smarter in
>I help or deal with and as I said I donot play the fun
>and games.
>So when you bail out is when you find out how things
>really are for sure.
>Your head is right on as far as direction that you
>Please forgive me for my two cents but what Mike said
>is true.
>I also feel very stongely that if someone gives you a
>that is not your blood.It should me kept with the
>breeders name on it and not changed.
>The dogs you breed should recieve the credit (but one
>has to except the credit for the bad also) that is the
>down fall.
>But people are the greatest actors in the world they
>will tell you anything you want to hear and make all
>the that you want sound like someone tickleing ones
>I don't always agree with everyone and for reasons I
>know but keep to myself.
>You I'am sure know enough when you are being taken for
>a ride.Its funny when one stands in front of you
>bragging about this or that and you know their lieing
>through thier teeth.Sometimes it hard to stand there
>and lisson to the puke spewing out of their mouths.
>Keep in touch as its a rough road out there today.
>>Mike it has been very exciting. You sure are proud of
>>>your line and those that have your dogs are zealous
>>>followers of what you have accomplished on the
>>>In the future I hope I will not offend anyone when I
>>>make reference to MY RED NOSE FAMILY in positive
>>>terms. If I had the time I would love to bred
>>>something off your winning table but that is not
>>>possible. My breeding table is full and I like what I
>>>have been served.
>>>Thanks for your time and I will be sure to not get in
>>>your way when making comments about RED NOSE DOGS. I
>>>don't need to explain your line as you have many
>>>people who will do that gladly. What I am breeding
>>>within my own tiny gene pool is the best of what I
>>>want in a DOG and RED NOSE FAMILY. There are millions
>>>of pit bulls all over the world but only a few good
>>>ones and even then the percentage is only 1 percent
>>>1 percent.
>>>When I say I have the better DOG, please take no
>>>offense. I'm like a bragging father proud of his
>>>family. So far no one has bought a single cur from me
>>>or a stolen dog or one with a false pedigree. I think
>>>that is a good record so far for a mustard seed like
>>>myself. My original purpose for having these dogs is
>>>to develop my OWN BLOODLINE no matter how long it
>>>takes. I am sure my line will never become large, but
>>>it will be nevertheless small with a huge reputation
>>>and honest accountability.
>>>Bad Frank has shown me much patience and
>>>consideration. I will say that his yard is one I
>>>respect and he himself is a flying person with
>>>conviction and dedication. Good example of a breeder
>>>and competitor.
>>>Mike your breeding years are interesting and your
>>>as well . Hope you the best on your book and may you
>>>and your family have a rich and happy life.
>>>"every dog has its day ..."
>>Let me tell you a true story from years ago and this
>>is how I feel for the lessen I learned.
>>I was outside Chicago in Tinley Park at Pat
>>Bodzianowski' house. A young kid showed up. I not sure
>>why but the kid called him God father. I know some of
>>the area dogmen called him Godfather but I took it as
>>him just being a gangster but Pat was Catholic so he
>>could have been his Godfather. :)
>>The kid came up to Pat in the yard so proud of his new
>>young pup and the kid handed Pat his papers. Pat took
>>the papers and crunch them up and whip his ass with
>>them and said that is all they're good for. The kid
>>was very upset and ask why he did that and Pat said,
>>kid you are wasting your time and money on this
>>quality of pup. Best thing for you to do is put the
>>pup down and cut your losses and let me sell you a
>>good pup which you will have better luck with.
>>I never said a word but I saw the hussle.
>>Well, the kid put the pup down and Pat sold him
>>another one.
>>After the kid left I said to Pat, How could you con
>>that kid that way?
>>Pat said, If that kid does not have more faith in his
>>dogs then to listen to a dumb old pollock like me and
>>others, he doesn't deserve to have them!
>>Besides, I didn't want him to have a litter mate to my
>>So I took from that the fact, that NO ONE will ever
>>talk my dogs down, they will have to prove it first
>>and I will have to see it with my own eyes and I won't
>>believe anything in dogs without it being proven to me
>>Because if I don't believe in them why should anyone
>>Now John, I want you to think back real hard. Have I
>>ever jammed on you for your brag?
>>Just don't do it at my expense and jam on my brag...
>>News Flash for everyone.........PEOPLE CAN STILL BE
>>This is what is wrong in the game today, hating for no
>>John I hope someday you will have the same problem as
>>me that I have with my straight Red Devil blood.
>>Because of almost 50% William/Hemphill blood mine has
>>got like so many other red nose bloodlines. To tight
>>where at times I have problems producing a lot of
>>quality dogs with power.
>>When I do, I won't risk losing it in the []. I will
>>treasure it and save it and put it back for myself.
>>But I do have one thing that a lot of other OFRN
>>breeders don't have and that is when I do cross, mine
>>adds to the power because the most dominate factor in
>>the line is Red Devil and it is a power line like Eli
>>bloodline of Boudreaux.
>>I personally feel mine are more like Clouse dogs now,
>>where they can be crossed with anything and produce
>>good right down to 1/4 of my blood.
>>Good luck because you will need it with all the
>>husslers and haters and con artists out there these
>>days trying to cheat you out of your money or your
>>Another thing Pat said to me that was true.
>>You are the greatest guy going when they want
>>something from you but after you get off of it, you
>>are a no good co__su__er after you do!
>>Man the users who ride along and try to make money off
>>any success you have! If you get off a female they
>>will breed it and sell pups half price just to cut
>>your throat!
>>Or when you do produce a world beater, they change the
>>paper work to give the credit to themseleves!
>>I could go on and on but you know what I mean or you
>>will learn soon enough..........later.

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