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Subject: Re: If you could turn back time...


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Iron Mike
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Date Posted: 07:32:15 03/19/06 Sun
In reply to: FTJ 's message, "Re: If you could turn back time..." on 17:24:46 03/18/06 Sat

>The reason I would center my breedings around Sander's
>Satan and Hemphill's Rebel is because that is where it
>began to go haywire. Instead of breeding back to a
>grand sire or dam, some felt it best to move forward
>with inbreeding? The better dogs are behind Sander's
>Satan and Hemphill's Rebel.

Once again you show how little you know about the Hemphill line of dogs because when Bob died , the few dogs that were left, Jake got the dogs from Satan/Rebel because Satan was considered the lesser of the stock of what was left.
Jake didn't get to take picks.
The better dogs went to other people. Anyone who knows those dogs, knows Sander's Satan was of low quality as far as performance and producing!


>If you are concerned about
>maintaining the Geronimo X Red Dixie breeding, an
>outcross only changes the flavor of that particular
>strain. Weather it be Eli, Red Boy or Red Devil
>crosses, it would never preserve that particular Red
>Nose Family which in fact was closer to OFRN than the
>dogs that came after.

Since you are talking about a strain and not a bloodline then you are wrong. Because if you use a cross which is stronger in the strain, such as the dogs down from Bruce's Jerry, like Red Devil then the strain is stronger not weaker.

>I think it safe to say that Wilder's Red Satan was
>perhaps the cleanest from the Geronimo X Red Dixie
>breeding. From people who handled him there was never
>the slightest indication of human aggression or bite at
>you mentality. He was very submissive to humans and a
>nightmare of gameness to any pit bull. Deep red red
>nose. Wilder's Red Satan among the last of the game
>link to the imports. What a fine animal.

Only one problem with your post.
No matter how many times you post your crap the fact will never change.
Satan wasn't bred as his papers say!
I know, I owned him from a pup!
But thanks for your thoughts if you are now excepting the fact he was off Spike/Maud's litter. :)))))

>If you ever cross out, never cut your stem down. Be
>able to go back and maintain whatever purity % of that
>starter family.
>
>RDK

And what would you call the dogs for which Red Satan was bred to in the beginning if not a cross?

Which pedigrees of Satan's breeding are suppose to be pure Hemphill bloodline?
NONE!
Remember when you use Wilder's Red Dot blood, you are using Red Devil as well. LOL

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