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Subject: Re: WEAK BLOOD


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Date Posted: 05:31:35 03/24/06 Fri
In reply to: Mallard 's message, "Re: WEAK BLOOD" on 21:31:17 03/23/06 Thu

>>CAN WEAK BLOOD FROM ONE OR MAYBE TWO DOGS THAH SHOULD
>>HAVE BEEN CULLED. MAKE A WHOLE LINE OF DOGS BAD.
>
>Weak blood (or blood from untested/cur dogs that
>should have been culled) will and always should be
>suspect.
>
>Like produces like.
>
>Most modern OFRN blood is low percentage to start
>with. Compounding the issue by having weak dogs in
>the ped will simply increase a person's chances of
>producing sub-standard offspring.
>
>A person will have an even harder road to hoe, if
>there is a pattern of inconsistent breeding behind the
>weak blood. No dog has a perfect background but I've
>seen pedigrees made up of predominately OFRN blood,
>that's mixed with so many other bloodlines (even some
>Staff blood), that it would be virtually impossible to
>know what kind of consistency you could expect.
>
>Taking it a step further, if this same blood is then
>line-bred and/or in-bred off of those scattered
>breedings. Where's your core? In my opinion, this is
>what contributes to making an INCONSISTENT AND WEAK
>FAMILY LINE.
>
>Taking it even another step, if you intend to start a
>family line with remnants from this kind of
>mis-managed blood, there is no crossing or good
>intention that will make it ship-shape. A person
>might make it better than it was but it will be so far
>away from the core of what these dogs are intended to
>be, well… there is always pride.
>
>
>>WHAT IS A COLD DOG
>
>A cold dog is a dog that after given fair
>consideration, will not start.
>A cold dog may respond out of self defense only or not
>at all.
>Notice I said fair consideration.
>Even within family lines, some dogs turn on faster
>than others.
>It is good to know about the history of a dog’s
>lineage, before you let him take that first swim. If
>a certain line has a reputation of starting slow, know
>that in advance and be patient.
>
>I have a dog down from a particular bloodline. I was
>told by the breeder that because his line is so
>inbred, that he will still be “heating-up” at two
>years of age.
>Even though this dog of mine showed early signs of
>starting, I headed the advice of the breeder and took
>my time with him. The dog will let you know when he’s
>ready.
>
>Some dogs start very early. Most of the local crew
>around my area wait until around 18 months before a
>first bump. If the tail goes up and the dog likes it,
>they go on from there. Some dogs don’t start until
>the age of two or more (i.e. Dibo).
>
>It is good to have someone knowledgeable and
>experienced with you, so that you will be able to
>learn how to recognize when to proceed and when to
>wait.
>Some ruin good dogs by not having the patience or
>experience to let a dog develop.
>There are several stories of prominent dogs, whom were
>written off by inexperienced dog men and then became
>historical figures after going into the right hands.
>
>As a yearling, a female pup down from my male was
>branded as being a slow starter or possibly cold,
>because she did not start-up at 13 months old. Yes,
>13 months old. When word got around that she was
>bumped, I asked, “How did she act?” The response I
>received was, “like she was supposed too. Like a
>pup!”.
>
>At this writing, she is only 15 months old and the
>caption written in her “pedigree on-line ped” reads,
>Cold as the Artic. I hope the owner of this pup will
>gain the experience and patience needed to let her
>mature before she is written off.
>
>Point is, a cold dog is a dog that after fair
>consideration will not start. Make sure that you
>don’t ruin your prospect (or your own reputation) by
>being too hasty.


Those are good ideas. Genetics call the final shot and usually the human eye or evaluation will have some influence in how the end product of a breeding session will turn out over a "period of years". No one on the most part has raised 10 generations of a particular bloodline except The Colby Dogs. With that in mind, many "try" to breed "like for like" and that too can be a revolving door of disappointments and try again methods. Selection and elimination has always been the correct method of breeding dogs of all types of breeds. A "serious breeder" will not accept the bad with the good. If the dog shows good physical ability but has no social behavior that is accostom to the character of the "pit bull" some will use it anyway and get the "snowball of unwanted traits started". I know of some persons who have a line of dogs that are various % of McCool extract and are great preformers but have human aggressive behavior on and off the program. So, due to the great diversity that exist within the canine family, there is a grater % of "passover" dogs that are included in the breeding gene pool.
The Cold As The Arctic bitch, has proven to be even colder, even in the hands of people who use this blood carefully, however, they have plans to use her for breeding, since they are not afraid to breed a pedigree they like. I am not of that thinking, since I have seen dogs bred differently indicating less expectation but proved at a early age mental intent and desire. That particular breeding I feel was thinned out just a bit to far and lacks the luster that the pedigree suggest. I know who saw that little bitch and the observers, one person who was there is considered a bum and a 2 bit hustler among true pit bull breeders. So the fact he would say she acted like a puppy from a drunks point of view would be an incorrect assumption.
There is also the "genetic wash" where a certain line can be restored to a higher level of quality and production. This requires the same method of search and destroy. Once a grouping has been formed of quality dogs, a little inbreeding works and from that point on some line breeding and continued cull. This can be a long process or one that is relatively reasonable because of the dogs ability to pass on inheritable traits from generatioon to the next. You can't turn shit into sugar, nor will the estimation and opinion of onlookers change the genetic process of breeding DOGS

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