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Author: BILL TRUMPLER Author Host/IP: 209.4.43.46 |
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Date Posted: 13:17:25 02/09/06 Thu In reply to: INFO ABOUT RON SITZES 's message, "TJ" on 16:39:00 02/08/06 Wed >ANYTHING ON HIM OR THE DOG HE BRED AND KEPT. Ron as you know is deceased.Ron and Jake were good fiends. Ron and his wife took care of Jakes dogs while Jake went back home and finally went back to nursey home. At the time I went up to Jakes haveing no idea that he went back into nursery home.Ron had his dogs and Jakes to take care of.ROn had old brusier,gator,red special and many more on his own place.He had somewhere around 15 or more dogs. His dogs were very friendly. When I visited he tool me to Jakes yard,which I mentioned in another post that I could not belief the dogs Jake kept. Its said Wilders Recless red was game,but I only saw a dog that was a maneater as he was real bad around people. He was a tall dog kind of rangey.His sister which Ron had at his place was just the opposite very friendly and outgoing.Her son Gator was a fine looking large headed wide chested dog and great with people.ALso Ron had Brusier there who was nine years old and at that time very healthy and full of energy.I cannot rember all the names of the dogs he had.I was told that the dogs he had were game.The only one that I could attest to was old brusier as he looked like he had been around the blocl a few times to say the least. The other dogs looked perfect so if they were indeed game they were unscatched. All I can say was that I seen for myself a book that was loaded with checks for pups. Jake and Ron bred quite alot of dogs together and made a killing selling them. On Jakes yard were the two males off WIlders Red Satan.I know one was Ace not sure of the other,both under a year at the time and fine looking. I went there dureing a time that everyone was purchaseing them as they thought that they were pure OFRN.Bob Hemphill stated that the dogs he had were pure up until 67 when he added 1/8 of the dibo blood to his stock.Therefore they were not pure from the time he did add the dibo blood. Brusier was not Jakes or bred by him his real name was Brown's red brusier Jake and Brown bred,dogs and traded dogs together so there was no telling what they had of each others. Like I said Ron is deceased and was not an old man when he passed on.I never heard of where all the dogs went or who to. I'd say between them there might have been somewhere around 40 or 50 altogether. People say the dogs were game but as far as I know Ron did not do anything with the dogs other then breed them. Jake himself bred big rednose dogs for people that wanted them for wolf hunting. He did have pens with about 5 or 6 females in them that if if were me they would have been put down for sure.I would say without a shadow of a doubt they were maneaters. One has to remember that the dogs had some colby mixed in the blood and some other blood used also. Ron had one that was mixed with something other then rednose. I would not be surprized if the dogs did not produce maneaters as I bought a female from Ron and bred her to WOOD's and wilders red inferno.But I sold her as soon as she was finished haveing pups.I'am sure she was bred over and over her name was geronimo girl. Geronimo himself was maneater also. I would imagine many had heard that old satan was not bred as shown on pedigree.I mean why would one sell of give away the purest dogs and be left with none. That itself was another story that many will argue forever. I was told BOB HEMPHILL gave Jake three breeding pairs of the dogs he had left and said he did not have to inbreed them for sometime to come.If that was so I'am sure that there blood would still be around.After Satan was sold to Hanna and Geronimo 11 passed on it left Jake without any pure Hemphill dogs. But Norrod had them pure of as pure as Hemphill had. If anyone has the blood tight its MIke Norrod.But like everything else someone would bash him and his dogs. But he did have them as pure or purer then Jake.But as you see from his pedigrees that he crossed his blood with creed. Its just a thought but if which he did have the pure blood he could have made a killing on breeding Maude and the others he had.But if one knows anything about what was said about how the dogs were bred one also knew of the confusion. But if I were to look for the blood in its purest form I'd ring him up.Although if he still has it pure he sure is not selling any. Most think that all who bought dogs from Jake bought pure ofrn but if one looks at the pedigrees one would see that they were not pure although they were pure wilder if that was what someone wanted. So as for Rons dogs I could not tell you how good they were nor how bad either.They were wilder dogs not Hemphill. Other then Jake or Ron I would have went to Bill Pritts to get one. THe stories on the dogs could go on and on and still have people bashing the dogs and owners,it might still go on for who knows how long. If your satisfied with the dogs you have thats fine as you are the only one that matters when it boils down to that. I did not make this up so if its wrong its not me that got it wrong it was told to me this way for better or worse. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Re: TJ | Jake Wilder (207.200.116.132) | 19:55:16 02/09/06 Thu |
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