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Bad Experiences With Cross Creek Manor and WWASP
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Subject: My Personal Experience at Cross Creek Manor


Author:
Athena Yancey (I messed up bad!)
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Date Posted: 21:38:31 10/11/07 Thu

Fawn, I think I remember you from when I was there. I spent my first two days with you doing tapes in the piss smelling basement classrooms of the old manor building. I got there in '99 and was in K-group, yes the young looking ones. When I got there I weighed 91 lbs and had long brown hair, not as long as yours was Fawn. I was the one who got upto a level 5 and over at the st. george hotel, conveniently locaed next to the crack- bust motel. I never graduated because severe meth withdrawls gave me schizophrenia and nobody would listen to me. I was hearing voices and having violent nightmares. I asked for help from Ron Garrett, to Thane, to the alleged psychologist, and they all told me it was hopeless and there was nothing they could do for me. Instead of admitting that I may have needed more intense psychological help than they were able to provide. I was left alone and in my madness I awoke woth the word SATAN carved into my arm. I had to get the hell out of there!! days later I would come to with my roomate stabbed by my own hands, Amy, a good friend of mine whom I had no intention of harming. I don't remember the next two years after that but I was abandoned by Cross Creek and turned over to state custody. Any parent thinking about sending your kid there....DONT DO IT PLEASE.

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Subject: GAO Investigation


Author:
Jeff Berryman
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Date Posted: 08:46:27 10/04/07 Thu

This is a start. Let's hope they get to the WWASP programs next.

http://www.kansascity.com/105/story/302379.html

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Subject: Re: My Personal Experience at Cross Creek MAnor


Author:
Nicole Dillon (shepard)
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Date Posted: 14:58:11 10/10/06 Tue

Wow...Just looking at the Craoss Creek name gives me chills...I don't know if I could ever really talk with anyone about my time there. I was only 12 and am now 28. Everything that happened to me was so awful . It's so sad that other girls came after me and the other girls. Cross Creek was a very sad, sick, place. Only those who have been there would know and understand how it really was. There are not big enough words to describe the evil money making schemes of the Farnsworth's opr Lichfield. I do believe that the devil has a hot spot reserved for Karr Farnsworth, Brent Facer and the rest of the slimy bastards

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[> Subject: Re: My Personal Experience at Cross Creek Manor


Author:
Claire
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Date Posted: 19:35:45 10/14/06 Sat

I totally agree with what you said. This is my first time posting here and I only wish that there was a way to make these pages pop up right along side the pages put out by CCM and her sister programs. I was not at cross creek very long... about 4 months right after the 9/11 attacks. My parents decided that instead of facing the fact that their lives were (and are) a lie they would avoid by getting rid of me. I was a good kid, never did any drugs, never drank, no I wasn't a virgin, but my one and only sex partner is the guy I'm now married to. Even though I was only their for a short while (I'd filed for emancipation before I was "escorted" to Utah and my return to Michigan was court ordered. My parents would have let me rot) I have never been able to get over the profound effect that my time there had on me. I get angry sometimes, and I get so very sad... and it takes me right back. I'm there, in those dimly lit halls, unallowed to wear shoes, facing the ridicule and scorn of the people around me, not allowed to speak for weeks on end (as soon as me "counselor" learned of the legal action surrounding me back home, he put me on silence so I couldn't tell anyone)... the shame and humiliation, showering while people watched, the bra and pantie checks every day, all the sad manerisisms people picked up from the stress of the environment, not getting my period because of the constant stress (and knowing thats a common issue). It makes me cry just thinking about it. It's been five years now. I still don't talk to my parents. I don't know that I ever will... and even if I do, I know I will never trust them. They ruined any chance there ever was of having their daughter be a part of their lives. I will always be seperate from them. There are still nights that I have nightmares that they've kidnapped me. I wake up crying and hold onto my husband. I've done counseling repeatedly, but there are still times that it hurts so bad and so deep I can barely talk about it. I had my first counselor tell me that I experienced the same symptoms that a war vet does... and I totally agree. Here I am, married, with a one year old of my own, my own house, my own business and still, here I sit, with pain so deep and so aching in my heart.

And what really gets me is that I've never heard one "success" story. Yeah, cross creek has quotes from parents and students on their site, but I can garuntee that those quotes are from people "working the program." Not people at home, three years later. God knows that if you're in the program and don't say exactly what you're supposed to at every turn, they'll drop you from going home next month to starting from the fist step, all over again. It's fear and hate that drives the people there to say and do what they're supposed to. One girl was from the same city as me while I was there. She got pulled a month before I left. The first thing she did when she got home was go get high... she'd been in the program for three years. Anyone she's talked to/ heard of since still has huge drug issues, or is a prostitute, or is dead... and none of them think (or thought) to highly of their parents post-program. These awful places do more harm than good... they are hell on earth and I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy. OK, maybe that's not entirely true... I would wish them on my parents. I'd like them to know what they did to me and feel real shame.

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[> [> Subject: Re: My Personal Experience at Cross Creek Manor


Author:
Claire
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Date Posted: 19:47:48 10/14/06 Sat

Sorry, I don't know how to edit my post. I wanted to clear up what my definition of "success" is in my previous post. Cross Creek gives the impression that after you pay them thousands of dollars to fix your broken child, he or she will come home and be the most exemplairy person you've ever met. They will always do exactly what their parents say, they will excell in school, they will never touch another illect substace (and wouldn't be caught dead with someone who did), their room will always be immaculate and they will always love and worship every thing about their parents. In my experience, after leaving the program people go right back to what it was they were doing when they left (ie, nothing changed except the dates). I know I did. I went right on with my emancipation proceedings (best choice of my life. My parents rights were terminated very quickly) and continued to date the same guy. The only change I see is that people think worse of their parents. Now, I know that after people go right back to the same old same old, many of them go through the normal growing up process that was stunted when their parents sent them away. Many people go on to lead (to whatever extent) "normal" lives. I'm not saying that people leave ccm and then spend the rest of their lives rotting away. I am saying that the program doesn't "fix" anything.

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[> [> Subject: Re: My Personal Experience at Cross Creek Manor


Author:
constant gardener
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Date Posted: 18:35:38 09/06/07 Thu

If you feel you were abused and or neglected while held in a WWASPS facility, and you would be interested in speaking with a law firm about your case, please feel free to contact me.

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[> Subject: Re: My Personal Experience at Cross Creek MAnor


Author:
Antiwwasp
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Date Posted: 04:59:57 12/01/06 Fri

Hello, I wanted to let you know that you're not alone. There is an entire community of survivors of these programs at www.antiwwasp.com - come share your experiences and post your name to our survivors list so that old program friends can find you!

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[> [> Subject: Re: My Personal Experience at Cross Creek MAnor


Author:
andy (happy)
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Date Posted: 18:01:01 01/11/07 Thu

the program does work for some people

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: My Personal Experience at Cross Creek MAnor


Author:
RM
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Date Posted: 13:49:05 02/07/07 Wed

Yes, for those who are willing to work on their behavior and other issues.

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Subject: 21 years old


Author:
Jennifer
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Date Posted: 16:59:21 09/04/07 Tue

You can look back and be mad at everything you went through while in a program or you can take the lessons you learned and make something of them. I went to Cross Creek when I was 16... I am 21 now... and still on my feet. Did I agree with everything they taught us or do I follow every little thing my therapist said NO!! But that is not their point.. they point high expectations so that when you do come home you are at least something better then the messed up kid that first came there. I smoke, drink, sexually active... all things they would rather you not do.. but I work, pay my bills and have been in a 2 year long relationship. I don't use drugs and will pick up my 4 years clean pretty soon. So answer this... did the program work or not? That is not a question that anyone but the individual can make. And for me yes it did.. I have a different outlook on life and I am finally grateful for the parents that have provided so well. All Cross Creek wants you do is be able to adjust to normal living... it's called being a responsible member of society. So for all those people who have a problem being sent away.. I'm sorry for you because today I can actually be grateful for something that seemed so bad at first.

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Subject: Re: Information about casa by the sea


Author:
monica (I was the shift leader)
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Date Posted: 16:25:56 08/04/07 Sat

Hi everybody!i WISH YOU HAVE GOOD MEMORIES OF CASA THE SAME AS ME.IT WAS NICE MEET ALL OF YOU.

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Subject: Romney and the "Behavior Modification" indsutry


Author:
Jeff Berryman
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Date Posted: 22:38:26 06/28/07 Thu

Please encourage everyone you can think of to check out this link, which pertains to candidate Romney's links to the Behavior Modification industry, and follow the link there to the article to which it refers. This site is set up so that the more hits it gets, the more ADDITIONAL people will be exposed to it. Romney's strange bedfellows are starting to be a big liability to him, and they're getting a LOT of bad press in the process.

http://www.digg.com/politics/Romney_Torture_and_Teens

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Subject: Re: My Personal Experience at Cross Creek Manor


Author:
Briana Divirgilio
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Date Posted: 23:00:51 06/12/07 Tue

i have to tell everyone that vists this site that cross creek made me even worse then i was before i went to the program. I was sent there when i was eleven for cutting and not going to school my birthday was in two weeks when i got sent away. I got sent away in 2004 and i spent the worst two years of my life there. I left in 2006 in june my mother pulled me out of the program. I saw some things there that really tramatized me for life, it is so structed there that the kids think that there being punished and all the thearpists and the program director would always tell us that your not getting punished your parents just want to get u help to save your life that's a bunch of bullshit excuse my language if u wanna know more about my exprience at cross creek just email me LilShortieMomma101@yahoo.com!

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