Subject: Surprised first enema, reaction to next one
Author: Brian (Eye opener)
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] Date Posted:Thursday, August 02, 2012, 07:18: am
Those of us who had no clue what the word or what an enema actually was. What was the first unexpected enema like and how different did you react to the next one you got?
For me I was 5 years old and had a condition called encropresis. The doctor told my mom to do the following program. Three weeks of enemas giving two 1 quart soapsuds enemas a day for week one. The same enema every other day for week two and the same enema every third day for week three. After three weeks of enemas I was given a glycerine suppository daily to train my bowels for one month. I was called to the bathroom and noticed this thing hanging on the wall on a nail. A hose was attached but thought nothing or never asked. My clothes were being stripped from me and I was soon standing there naked. Mom then moved me towards the hanging enema bag. She told me to bend over she is going to put this in my hiney. I started to fuss and said I didn't want that. As she tried to get me ready I started crying and pulling away. She had to straddle me between her legs. This forced me to be bent over and all I could do was stamp my little feet. I felt my hiney being parted and something slip into me. I heard a click and jumped as I felt the rush of the warm soapy water filling me up. I was screaming and started getting a belly ache. It was like nothing I ever experienced. I soon heard this gurgling noisy which was the bag sucking the last of the soapy water out. I heard a click and felt mom squeezing my hiney cheeks together. I had a bad belly ache and could here it rumbling. A few minutes mom lets go and quickly pulls the nozzle out and quickly sat me on the toilet. Once again I had no clue and my inside were just blowing out of me. I sat there crying as the enema expelled itself from me. While on the toilet I saw mom pouring a one quart bottle of water into the bag. She then put a white bar of soap into the bag. I started crying louder and begging no more I don't want that. After a few minutes she took the bar of soap, swished it around and took it out. She then stuck her hand into the top of the bag and agitated the water with her hand. I was then lifted, wiped and as that was happening started pulling away and kicking. I was no match for my mom and soon straddled once again between her legs. The process started over once again. This was the first of many enemas to follow. Now experiencing the first one I wanted no part of it anymore. The next day mom had me pushing against her face as she carried me to the bathroom. She had a hard time undressing me as I kicked and fought best I could. In the end I always found myself straddled and getting the enema. That first one was surly an unexpected surprise and scared me for life. How did it go down for you and did you have a better time of it then I did?
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Date Posted:Thursday, August 02, 2012, 02:58: pm
I like you also had encopresis as a kid. My first enema was given to me at a doctors office. I was also 5 years old. I remember the doctor first pushing on my tummy. I did not mind that much at all. I remember him saying that I had a hard Poop in me the size of 2 of his fists. He said that needs to be extracted. I had no idea what he meant at age 5. I would soon find out.
He told me to remove all my clothing except my socks. I did that and he came back into the room and said I now need you to lay on your side and put one leg higher than the other one. I was not worried at all. Then he spilt my behind apart and I felt something cool slip into my behind. I again stayed calm. Then it hit me he was going to give me something that would make me have to poop. I always held it in and I feel it was kind of a fun game to me. Then without any notice I felt a very strange feeling in my butt it felt as if cool liquid was going into me. I looked up and saw a nurse holding a big bag of water and a tube leading into my little boy butt. I then cried and I remember the nurse saying you are doing great it is almost over. You are such a good boy. Then the first wave hit me. After the tube was removed I lost it right away right on the table. Just a little. The nurse asked me if I wanted to use the potty or have a diaper. I chose a diaper because I thought I could just hold it in like I did all the time. I was going to fight this. I learned you can not hold back a enema very long. In the car on the way home I felt myself losing the battle that I most of the time would win. I felt myself losing it in my diaper big time. I remember being scard that it would leak out.
When we got home my mom took my diaper off and sat me on the potty. It felt like my butt exploded or something. Splash!!!!! Bang!!! Fart!!!!! Ect.
After it was all over I had to admit I felt great I remember want to run and play outside.
Date Posted:Thursday, August 02, 2012, 03:28: pm
I had encopresis until I was 13 years old. I have found since the time I grew up with this it has got much worse. This was in the 1980s. Since the late 1970s early 1980s there are many kids that grow up like this. One because of our diet and 2 because parents have been scard to use enemas as treatment as in the past they were always used. In the 1940s or 1950s if a child did not go there were no one questioning the use of an enema to make them go when they would hold it.
Today people are afraid that touching any child in there behind could do harm to them. That may or may not be true. I feel it is much worse to use laxatives. My mother bought into this and used them and they hurt me way more than a small tube in my butt ever could have. She gave me them at nighttime before bed. There was one day in the 6th grade when I had an accident at school. I guess my pants had a brown stain on them and when our class was walking in from recess a few girls saw it. I became the laughing stock of the 6th grade. A girl would just look at me and laugh. You can more than likely know what that did to me at a time when you are just learning about girls ect.
My view here is that to treat encopresis you should use enemas and suppositories they are predictable. You know when your child will have to go. Not at school when they are not expecting it.
Note When giving an enema or suppository tell the child what is going to happen and why and let them have control of it. Let them put the enema tube in their own butt with your help and let them control the flow. Keep them in control. They will not be a fearful if you do this.
How did I get cured? I did just that. Before entering Jr. High school I found my moms enema bag. I was scard at first because of my enemas before. I first took the tube and slid it in my butt and moved it in and out. It kind of felt good you know. It was not bad. Then I added a little water to the bag and again put in into my butt. I then sat on the potty. I let go and I was cured. I used this from that day on if I needed it. I was not fearful of this at all.
Date Posted:Friday, August 03, 2012, 09:13: am
Eric,
I can relate to the encopresis problem. I used to get enemas for that and played the "holding game" too. Similar results with eventually not being able to hold the stool and liquid coming out around it. That was the worst and the worst happened several times in school. By far the most embarrassing incident happened when we were in the middle of a visit to a large city and in the center of a large park. I dumped a huge stool into my underwear at age 13. There was nothing I could do to stop it. We were with friends from home and they were at least polite enough not to remark on the stinky teenager that they had to ride in the car with. Naturally we didn't have the enema syringe with us to finish the cleanout at the motel. That would have been even more embarrassing because the whole family would be in the room while I got the enema(s). I made it home after getting cleaned up and showered. But when we got home, the first order of business was enemas.
Date Posted:Friday, August 03, 2012, 10:58: am
To Eric and John I do hear of so many especially today and much more with boys suffering from encropresis. The treatment I received cured me and after being well cleaned out the suppositories trained my system to go daily. I have never had a problem since. I hear of other treatments but believe enemas and suppositories are the best in cleaning out and training. Of course it is tough for the child but as you said if the mom explains it and has the child assist it might be better. As for me I don't think that would have worked and my mom knew the only way she was going to get it done.
Date Posted:Friday, August 03, 2012, 12:23: pm
Does anyone feel encopresis effected them in later life as you got older? It has me. The way I think mainly. Sometimes I feel not as good as others. Like I have something wrong with me. Anyone else feel that popping in their pants as a boy or girl effected them later on?
Date Posted:Friday, August 03, 2012, 02:00: pm
Eric:
Yes I think pooping in the pants as a child who was so afflicted has had an effect on me. I learned that people especially other young children were cruel enough to mention the problem in front of other people. I remember holding stool back in second grade by gripping the seat on my desk and hoping nothing would come out. Once there was a small fecal ball that go through despite my best efforts. During recess I found a quiet place on the playground and managed to get it to roll down my pantleg and get rid of it. I should had the sense to ask for an enema when I got home, but didn't.
Don't let anyone tell you that you're "not as good" as other people. That's simply not true. No one is perfect and those who try to make you feel less acceptable have bigger problems than an enema can cure.
I learned to ask other people to give me an enema when needed when I was single. Now my wife will do the honors when necessary. She doesn't especially like it but she understands the problem.
Date Posted:Friday, August 03, 2012, 03:10: pm
Had those stool down the leg times in grade school myself. Know what you mean.
I started thinking about why more and more kids have to deal with this today. In the past like 50 years ago it was rare. I think this issue tells us about us as a society. In the late 1970s my mother first used enemas on me and she has told me when she was giving me one I sounded like she was trying to kill me. I would kick scream and yell. She hated to keep doing the thing that was the treatment for this problem for years. She changed doctors from a traditional one at the time to a different new style kind. Since then the medical field has looked toward medicine only to treat things. A way to make money I guess. This doctor told my mom to leave his little bottom alone. That was the problem.
This sounded right and it still does but years ago this holding problem was treated with enemas. They were a normal event to kids if they got stopped up. If those children in those days hated the enema they had to stop holding back or they had to deal with a clean out. Today that is so extreme. Never touch them in their rear ever. If I had a child with this problem I would use the enema all the time knowing what I know about this. I more than likely would get a visit from the law saying I am abusing him. You know he would talk with a friend that told his mothers who called the police on me. What? What is wrong with our society. I think it you are abusing them more by doing what the medical field tells you to
do.
Today you can get in trouble for spanking your kid on their behind. Question? How do todays kids be expected to know what is right or wrong? I guess just let them do what they want to all the time. Even popping in their pants. In the past if you held poop in or popped your pants it would be enema time. If you hated that you had to make sure you did not do that again. If you hit your brother or sister you got a spanking on the bare butt with a belt. You learned quick that was wrong. As you can see this problem has much tied to it.
Date Posted:Friday, August 03, 2012, 11:43: pm
I thoroughly agree that discipline is neglected these days. Society is becoming more permissive, also much more tolerant of things that should be rejected, not accepted.
I am curious about the thoughts that go through the mind of a child who is deliberately "holding back." I'm not trying to be judgmental or critical, but I really want to know. Surely there is some rationale in the child's mind for doing it.
Date Posted:Saturday, August 04, 2012, 01:01: am
I really could not tell you why I did this as a kid. I feel it was a control thing. It could have been diet related. Today I do not eat wheat and have found that has worked. I could have held back because my mom was to pushy to potty train when I was not ready then that lead to me wanted to hold it.
Date Posted:Monday, August 06, 2012, 12:00: pm
I have done it because I was a busy little kid who had no time for #2. I also had a condition where my intestines had sharp bends and things held up there. I was given enemas, suppositories, and every 3 months cleaned out thoroughly. Kids do things because they want to feel in control and one has control over their own body. Other reasons are constipation and the pain so holding back then becomes an issue. Today there is no time for treatments like years ago. There appears to be so many more cases out there with this problem. The other problem is we can't touch that area its abuse. Load them up with chemicals its better for them.