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Subject: not an enema mom yet


Author:
Kim
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Date Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2012, 12:13: am

We have three children with bowel issues. I've never given them enemas and except for the youngest neither suppositories. But I am at my wits end, our three children girls aged 10 and 8 and son 5 are what I guess are called stool holders, they have all three been difficult to toilet train for poop. Even the oldest will hold for days. Mother-in-law says it is high time I insist the children have a bowel movement every day with suppositories if needed and an enema once a month until we get them under control. Seeking advice Kim

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[> Subject: Re: not an enema mom yet


Author:
Mainot
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Date Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2012, 04:44: am

Hello,
I think your mother-in-law is right, but I would say a BM every two days may be sufficient, at least at the beginning of the treatment ; it will be easier for the kids to endure. Glycerin suppositories should do the trick and - if it is not enough - an enema a month would be appropriate. There again, take it easy, start with small volumes (less than a quart), with a spoon of table salt dissolved in it, and proceed slowly to make the process comfortable.
Hope you fix all three up easily. Let us know...

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[> [> Subject: Re: not an enema mom yet


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Kim
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Date Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2012, 08:07: am

Thanks so much. I thought by the time they were 8 and 10 that they would take ownership of their bowels and it would not be an issue but both of our girls will stand around with their legs crossed needing to poop and now with our son demonstrating the same I'm just fed up with it all.

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Author:
Cosworth (friendly)
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Date Posted: Monday, July 16, 2012, 08:10: pm

Kim:
You are right, they have taken over control of their bowels; but they are running into the fact that they can't always have things their own way. (I remember when I was little hearing things such gems of wisdom as 'You can do anything you want, you just have to decide to do it, and get on with it.' I did so, deciding to continue my playing or whatever, and ignoring, even suppressing, the 'urge'; not realizing that there are some things (such as going poo) that one cannot avoid just by willpower. So I was a 'withholder'.) My mum was nowhere near as patient as you have been. She was getting frustrated with my disregard of toilet training when I was at the age of 4. (and a half; those halves are important at that age). She took me to the doctor, a friendly GP (I never had a pediatrician) who examined me and, I surmise, concluded that I had nothing wrong with me that an enema wouldn't fix. That fateful exam is forever burned in my mind. I remember it perfectly, much better than my first enema... But that is a little off topic. Thus commenced my regular enema sessions...
Anyway; I agree with your Mother in law that your kids should get into a routine of regular pooing. But I would, if I were you, have each of them examined to see if there is any other condition which may be causing problems. If they have not got a medical problem, I suspect that the suppository suggestions mentioned elsewhere here are a good start. I agree with the one who suggested that every day BMs are not essential, but after the second day, something should be done. (In my case, skipping a day was enough to bring out the enema equipment.) As for psychiatric disturbances due to being enemized; I don't think that enemas themselves are a problem; there may be problems with how they are approached and done. Ask your Mother in law; she is obviously experienced.
Please, please, advise us (the board) on how things come out (bad pun).

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[> Subject: Re: not an enema mom yet


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Nancy
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Date Posted: Monday, May 28, 2012, 06:33: pm

I agree with your mother-in-law. My children received both suppositories and enemas. I know that everyone's bowel rhythm is different but a good BM should happen at least every 48 hours. I used suppositories in toliet training at age 2 by inserting a glycerin suppository pushed high in the rectum while the child was over my lap. They do try to push it out. I also agree with at least monthly enemas and an enema if the suppository fails do do the trick. When I decided someone needed an enema, I would get everything ready and tell whoever, "I'm going to give you enemas now." The first was a warm soap suds enema and then a warm baking soad rinse. When my girls started having their periods, they always were constipated so the enemas relieved that and helped with cramps. Good luck.

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[> Subject: Re: not an enema mom yet


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ricky
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Date Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 12:55: pm

have you talked to your dr? have you considered the diet they are on? are they getting enough fiber or drinking plenty of water? and are you sure there is not a more seriouse problem?
i see a red flag with it being all 3, are you sure these babies havent been abused? 1 i can see but all 3 raised a red flag get them to a dr!

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Author:
Jon
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Date Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 10:49: pm

You people need to get off the abuse thing on this board. With no idea that abuse is happening you make a "knee jerk asumption" that because some of the moms are giving enemas to their kids that they either must be perverted or doing it just for the hell of it. Most moms do it out of concern for the childs health. Yes diets are a cause for constipation but often stress at school (which a kid often does not admit to) can contribute to their constipation. Maybe a child is a "holder" because by getting an enema he is getting needed attention. Not everything is abuse. As far as three kids living under 1 roof, some tend to emulate each other similar to multiple women's cycles matching the same time frames in the same household.

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ricky
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Date Posted: Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 12:10: am

they are a little old to be a holder, and the questions that were asked are somthing to consider, and a dr's advise wouldnt be a bad idea, plus there is scientific medical proof that enemas can lead to dependancy and other mental issues

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[> Subject: Re: not an enema mom yet


Author:
Sue (UK)
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Date Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2012, 03:01: pm

Ricky, if you think they're too old to be "holders", I can tell you from my experience that an eight year old can be a doo-holder - whether out of self-neglect, sheer wilfulness or both (?!)
And I agree - under the circumstances Kim should toughen up. Make "absolutely sure" they eat healthily and get enough exercise, and be prepared to use the suppositories if it's the only way to ensure they're doing a dooey every 36-48 hours.

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[> Subject: Re: not an enema mom yet


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Eric
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Date Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012, 11:58: am

I was a holder until age 13. How did it all stop for me? My mom would let me on my own for the most part then as I was about 11 we both knew this had to change. I was about to start Jr.high school. So she told.me to stop holding and use the potty like most kids my age. Only babies do what I do. She said if she caught me holding sitting on the ground she would take me in the bathroom take down my pants and give me an enema. I knew what that was I hated them and she caught me a few timed and sure thing I got a big bag of water in my butt. I cried and it hurt because she put a lot in. But after a few times I felt better after I got it all out. I felt like running and playing which I did. I was a new boy. I in time stopped holding an if I got stopped up I gave myself a enema. I was no longer fearful of them. On time in 7th grade I was stopped up and got home and my mom fixed the enema and let me give it to myself. I still do that today if I need it. I feel we holders always have this it is ac medical condition. Enemas are a part of the treatment do not be fearful of them.

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