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Subject: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Callie
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Date Posted: Friday, November 12, 2010, 02:40: pm

I am a 41 you single mom. I have twin boys age 14. They have constipation issues and I have to give them an enema about every 2 weeks or sometimes more often. They both never objected too much till laterly. They protect they are too old for enemas from a lady. I have been seeing a guy for 3 years and they like him very much. He knows they need enemas but has never offered to help. Both boys have said they would have no objection. ARe any other moms faced with this problem? Suggestion place!! I need help!

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Ralph
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Date Posted: Friday, November 12, 2010, 03:53: pm

Sorry to say Callie that you and your boys are in the wrong century for this.
A non-family member will be violating the law if he administers an enema to a minor.
Best thing would be to teach your boys to self administer.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Callie
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Date Posted: Friday, November 12, 2010, 04:32: pm

But Ralph, what if the boys say its ok and he does it was a health thing. They have both been given enemas in the hospital by both male and female nurses.

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[> [> [> Subject: Enemas for Boys


Author:
Dr. Dan (Enemas may be needed for along time)
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Date Posted: Saturday, November 13, 2010, 07:48: am

Callie,

Naysayers as above, may or may not be reliable.

There are no laws or regulations which specify who may give enemas to anyone. That's why women give them to men and how men give enemas to women.

In the case of your twin boys, there is no reason why your man-friend couldn't or wouldn't give them the enemas they need. Remind him to be gentle with the enemas, for the best results and to insure willing continuity for your sons.

People who "DON'T" need frequent enemas for their OWN health, often try to scare away others who DO need them. The reason they do, is often 'fear' of rejection. But, for people who DO need enema therapy, all objections seem spurious because constipation is unhealthy and uncomfortable.

I say let the 'new man' in your life have some responsibility for caring for your sons. That should 'bond' the boys to him, and him to YOU, for being given the responsibility of working with your children. Relationships fail if the woman DOESN'T incorporate her new man into her family life.

Get him to use high-pH, full-distention, long-retention enemas on your sons, and ignore all naysayers. Write me directly for more information and support, or for instructions from me to your new guy, on how best to help your sons.

Thanks, and God Bless

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
John
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Date Posted: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 01:24: pm

That is not true...CYS will not have a problem with a non family member assisting a child with a medical need. CYS is concerned with sexually inappropriate behavior. A child can allow or not allow someone to assist them.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
ezem
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Date Posted: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 02:42: pm

So I guess that if a hospital nurse not related admins an enema to a minor that they will be arrested? Grow up.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
George
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Date Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2012, 04:55: pm

To ezem: Here's the distinction: 1) On admission to a licensed medical hospital or clinic, as part of the registration procedure, the patient, parent or guardian of the person if a minor, signs a release form authorizing medically necessary procedures to be performed by pjysicians and other medically qualified hospital personnel. This is a legal CYA document routinely required by all medical care facilities these days. 2)Child protective sercvices (CPS) laws vary from State to State, but here in Texas they are very strict. Anything that causes pain and/or potential injury to a child, whether administered by a paremt or another person, can be fair game for prosecution if someone turns in a report. Does this mean that a parent can't give an enema to a child who is constipated? No, not at all. It's the circumstances under which it is done that make the difference.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Kevin
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Date Posted: Monday, December 13, 2010, 11:15: pm

Why can't the boys give the enemas to each other.

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
enemadude
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Date Posted: Saturday, November 13, 2010, 03:16: am

Callie I began to get enemas from my aunt at age 13 and continued till age 17 ,I would rather got them from a female than a male .

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Callie
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Date Posted: Saturday, November 13, 2010, 10:57: am

I think the main reason they prefer a male giver is because they are 14 and sometimes get erections while over my lap. They are ashamed of this although I make no mention of it.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Vera
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Date Posted: Saturday, November 13, 2010, 12:44: pm

Your problem is perhaps in not mentioning it when they get erections whilst over your lap. You should instead tell them that it is normal for boys to get erections like that. And reassure them that it is completely OK from your viewpoint. Tell them it shows that they are healthy young men, and you approve of it.

It is important to help them get over their bashfulness about getting erections in front of women.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Lapnoloc
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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 02:55: pm

I agree with Vera 100%.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Callie
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Date Posted: Saturday, November 13, 2010, 01:51: pm

Thanks Vera, I'll use that approach next time. Yes they are healthy,normal boys except for the bowel problem. They are skinny and small but healthy.

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Johnson
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Date Posted: Saturday, November 13, 2010, 06:32: pm

No, they are too young to give consent at 14. You are responsible for them till they turn 18 years old. If you let a non family member give the boys an enema, YOU could be in deep sh*t with CPS.

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Leo
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Date Posted: Sunday, November 14, 2010, 05:05: am

Just ask them if it is ok that your male friend give them the enemas in privacy. My son also refused to be seen naked by his mom when he reached puberty. So I took over and since there is no more problem, especially after I told him not to be ashamed of getting erections as it is a normal response in males.

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[> Subject: Callie, What Approach Have Decided To Try?


Author:
Fran
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Date Posted: Sunday, November 14, 2010, 04:37: pm

Callie, it seems as though you have decided against the idea of asking your male friend to help you. I am getting this idea from what you told Vera above when you said, "I'll use that approach next time". What approach will you try? If that fails, other mothers on this board
may have dealt with teenagers and can make some suggestions.

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Switchablesusie
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Date Posted: Sunday, November 14, 2010, 07:47: pm

14 year old boys are completely capable ot giving themselves enemas.

Look at all the people here who started giving themselves enemas when they were 7-8 years old behind their parents backs.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
eguy
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Date Posted: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 02:30: pm

Susie why do you care if a 14 year old wants help getting an enema ??

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Switchablesusie
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Date Posted: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 11:34: pm

I don't care, but I think most of the 14 year old boys here whose "mothers" think they need or want all those enemas and help by their mothers, aunts or sisters administering them, is a fantasy of the poster.

Keep in mind, I love enemas and doing them with my husband in many scenarios, but a lot of these teenage boy/mother stories are just that.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
enema man
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Date Posted: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 05:27: am

Sorry to burst your bubble Sue but for many of us these teenage enema scenarios did happen !!Just because it didnt happen to you ,dont mean others didnt experience it !!!
We thought you promised to quit judging the others posts here !!!!!!!!

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Mycroft
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Date Posted: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 11:42: am

enemaman: Please reread Switchable's post and your response to it. Then decide which of you should follow your advice to her. Switchable is a real asset to this forum, you are not.

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
b3
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Date Posted: Monday, November 15, 2010, 10:54: am

Callie- you could also tell them that they could wear athletic supporters when they get enemas, to keep the erections down and not visible. at their age they likely have supporters.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Callie
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Date Posted: Monday, November 15, 2010, 11:48: am

Thanks b3! Thats a good idea. They both have supporters now. Looks like im going to have give enemas to both before the weekend.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
KYLE
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Date Posted: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 07:52: am

Yes i think a 14 yr can give themselfs enemas when needed, Heck i did it at age 9 of course no one else was home, But i am sure i left some tell tell signs like not drying the bag and hose, But i would assume there are a lot of moms who prefer to give the enemas no matter what the age, Heck i knew a few 18 yr olds at the time and thier moms were still giving them the enemas when needed, I think this from what hosptials do as i never heard of a patient self adminstering a enema to his-herself in a hosptial or clinic.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
for Kyle
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Date Posted: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 10:07: am

Kyle at nine years old what did you like best about the enema you gave yourself? If anything. The initial insertion of the nozzle? The feeling of the water going in? There must of been something that made you want to give yourself an enema?

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
KYLE
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Date Posted: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 08:08: am

I did it mostly out of jst being curious to see how it would fell by doing it myself, It was a odd but delightfull experience to say not would be a lie, I guess a fetish can start at any age,, I did often wonder what would have happened if i had got caught doing it.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
for Kyle
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Date Posted: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 08:21: am

More than likely Kyle if your mom caught you giving your self or trying to give yourself an enema she would probably would end up giving it you herself. Which would make sense. Without a doubt she would ask you straight out why you were doing it in the first place. Thinking fast at 9 years old is not easy, but you would of told her you had a bellyache and couldn't go. What else could you of told her? I guess you found out, giving an enema to yourself is not the same as having your mom give you one, but that is a whole other story why.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
J Older
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Date Posted: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 11:56: pm

I was 10 y/o when I began recieving a regular enema, almost every day. This was in conjunction with a bath which was also administered by my two Aunt's, Bev and Jenny. I lived with them for three years and this was a normal occurance. When I begab having an erection during the enema/bathing process, I was placed in an athletic supporter and the remained in it for the evening while we watched TV in the den. There were times when I was semi-nude and there would be a friend of my Aunts come by the house. I wasn't allowed to change, but sit there in all my nudity, just a jockstrap and and and a pair of sandals.

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[> Subject: Most People Can Do It Themselves, But Prefer Otherwise


Author:
Fran
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Date Posted: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 10:22: am

Once again Switchablesusie has made a correct observation, that most people are capable of self-administering, but that is not the point. Almost anyone who is fortunate enough to have someone else to help them finds it better to have that help. In other words, just because you can do something does not mean you prefer to go it alone.

In the case of Callie's boys, I suppose that at their age they can do it, as Susie says, but is that the best way to go? It is very likely that they would prefer to have some help. Callie recognizes this, that's why she asked what the posters thought about her asking a male friend to do it.

But others have said, and I agree, that an outsider might not be suitable. If they need help, Callie might consider continuing to administer, after talking it over as Vera has suggested. She may also be able to work out a compromise, as b3 has suggested.

Callie can then administer, as long as they remain receptive to having her assistance. As Kyle said, he knows
of cases where such help was given well beyond their age.
It's a family decision and must be decided by Callie with input from the recipients, of course.

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[> Subject: Mycroft, Switchablesusie May Be An Asset, But.....


Author:
Fran
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Date Posted: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 08:58: pm

I agree that Switchablesusie is a regular contributor here and is an asset in that she keeps the board going, but lately she seems to doubt everyone's truthfulness.

In this thread, although she did not say it outright, she seems to be saying that Callie is writing fiction. We don't have to agree with anyone's opinion or attitude about the subjects we are discussing, of course. But to label them
as fiction-writers is not really the best way to contribute
to this board.

If one does not like the topic of a thread, why not just ignore it and maybe start another thread? Now that would be an asset to the board, wouldn't it?

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[> [> Subject: To Fran Yesterday...


Author:
Mycroft
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Date Posted: Friday, November 19, 2010, 10:02: am

In a perfect world you are quite correct. I appologize to all offended readers and wish everyone pleasant cleansings with extra benefits without further bickering on these pages.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Mycroft, Switchablesusie May Be An Asset, But.....


Author:
sick of susie2
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Date Posted: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 05:44: pm

I agree Susies constant judging and opinions of others enema history has ruined this site !!!!!!!!!Susie thinks because she didnt get enemas from her parents,then no one else did either then !!!
Sorry to shock you Susie ,most of us on this site did !!!!!!
Why dont you start your own voy group and control every enema post you dont like,and leave this site alone?

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[> [> Subject: Re: Mycroft, Switchablesusie May Be An Asset, But.....


Author:
Mycroft
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Date Posted: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 09:52: pm

I've advised against further bickering, but sinse there are those who will not desist, let me say this: Switchablesusie is brighter than and much better prepared to comment on enema-related issues than her detractors. She is knowledgable and experienced and she has the goodwill and generosity to share valuable insights on topics of interest to most contributors here. Those who take the trouble to go off topic in order to find fault with her are asked to come up to her level of contribution or be silent.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Mycroft, Switchablesusie May Be An Asset, But.....


Author:
Observer
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Date Posted: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 09:38: am

just think of it this way, susie likes things in her a$$, so be it....

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Harry H
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Date Posted: Friday, November 19, 2010, 08:46: am

My mother stopped giving me enemas when I was about 12. I needed to continue enemas because of my constipation as well as for enjoyment. At that point I started to give myself enemas when no one was at home. I would have much rather have had enemas from mom. If my father had been willing to give me enemas that would have been acceptable or even a male or female neighbor. I would have accepted an enema from anyone who was willing to give a gentle, properly given enema, instead I suffered with constipation for many years until I was old enough to buy my oun enema bag and was "under my oun roof". Not being able to get a needed enema is cruel.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Callie
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Date Posted: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 09:55: am

Many thanks for all the advice, some was quite helpful. I have decided to continue giving my boys their enemas as needed and allowing them to wear jock straps to hid their "front". I gave one an enema last evening( no bm for 3 days) and he lay placidly over my lap while whole bag was given over a 20 minute time, no kicking,moaning or crying! Quite an improvement. I ve decided to leave my male friend uninvolved at least for now.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
b3
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Date Posted: Monday, November 29, 2010, 02:06: pm

callie- has the jockstrap addition worked well also with your other son?

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
KYLE
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Date Posted: Friday, November 19, 2010, 10:48: am

All i can say is back in the 1970,s when i was a kid if a kid needed a enema they got it and many times i remember like the next door neighbor the lady had 5 kids and a lot of times my mom would go over to thier house to help give enemas and vs versa, she would come and assist my mom when one of my brothers & sisters needed one, It was no big deal back then for that type of thing, A few times the lady next door even came over to our house to borrow the things needed as one time the woman next door needed the stuff, I was in the kitchen one time when the mom next door came over and asked my mom if she could use our family enema bag,My mom did ask what happened to yours and she said i cant find it i think one of my kids hid it from me, Of course my mom let her have the bag and the next day it was returned, Guess the person who was to get it hid it to avoid getting the enema, Sure him-her found out different & got what they needed, But yea in our small town thats the way things were done back then, heck our doors were never locked, if i wanted to see my friend next door i would just walk into the kitchen back door and ask if he was home and i still think he was the one who hid his moms enema bag that day, Guess he found out it did not pay to do that, Dont forget we were not teens we were only like 10-11 yrs old and yes we got them when needed.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Maria
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Date Posted: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 12:13: pm

In 70's many families believed in usefulness of regular enemas for kids. At least, a few my classmates got regular mother's enemas till middle school graduation. It wasn't secret, because mothers told among themselves about care and rearing in their families.

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[> Subject: Callie, I'm Glad It All Worked Out For You


Author:
Fran
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Date Posted: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 04:52: pm

First of all, thank you for the follow-up on your dilemma.

It was a good idea to forget about employing your male friend's help. That was never a wise option in my opinion.
Also, I'm glad to took b3's suggestion. Evidently, the
recipients liked the idea and are now more comfortable as you administer. It was a good compromise for you and them.

But be sure to have a talk with them, anyhow. You do not want to give them the impression that they did something wrong or that you were offended. What they now wear is for their comfort, if they prefer, but they did nothing wrong earlier, and they need not have felt embarrassed.

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
mike (dad and enema)
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Date Posted: Friday, November 26, 2010, 01:57: am

When I was 15 I had some rectal bleeding and had to go to a bigger town to a clinic. the night before I was to take enemas til I ran clean. I had never had an enema and knew nothing about it---I do not think my dad knew much either--He did help me and we just read the directions the clinic gave us--I recall I had to kneel with my forarms down --We were in a tiny motel bathroom and there was hardly room to kneel and get the enema---My dad would leave when I had to use the toilet but he helped me with the rest of it---It took a hell of a long time to run clean! My butt hole was sore just from the enemas---I realize writers have said teen agers would know how to give an enema to themselves----I had ne ver had an enema and i did not know wehat to do

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Benny
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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 03:42: pm

Mom or child can't be comfortable in that position. Should mom really prefers that way than she could sit on the edge of the bed with the child across her lap with the torso and legs resting on the bed. She should also spread her leds so the receiver has their belly between her legs taking pressure off of the belly.

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
alfred
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Date Posted: Friday, November 26, 2010, 09:06: am

I had many enemas until about 14 from mom and enjoyed
all the care and concern that went with them. after
that i did them myself often with a large colon tube
that i learned to insert deeper and deeper. I could take about three quarts without cramps. A wonderful time.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Mike to Fran
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Date Posted: Friday, November 26, 2010, 03:36: pm

Enemas are usually give to younger children by their caregiver. Usually at a certain age--9 or 10, the caregiver doesn't give them any longer.

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[> Subject: Why A Thread On This? What's The Difference?


Author:
Fran
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Date Posted: Friday, November 26, 2010, 11:59: am

Now that I think of it, why is there a thread about this topic? Why older boys? Why not older girls? Why not younger boys? Younger girls? Middle aged men? Middle aged women?
Elderly men? Elderly women? What's the difference? If a person of any age has such a need, isn't that what matters?

Who assists or administers is a family matter and should be decided within the family. And if a minor is involved, the decistion rests with the parents, or which ever parent is the caregiver. Why are we making an issue here?

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[> [> Subject: Re: Why A Thread On This? What's The Difference?


Author:
J S
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Date Posted: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 12:30: am

To Fran: Excellent question!

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[> [> Subject: Re: Why A Thread On This? What's The Difference?


Author:
yoanna
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Date Posted: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 11:37: am

Fran, you are right that all that is family matter and all actions regarding that matter are result of personal parent`s or relative`s decision. You are right that if a person has such needs, the age, gender and kinship ties aren`t matter. But when we speaking for human beings we can`t ignore the feelings and senses, who attended activities in close proximity with the bare recipient`s privates, especially in societies with heightened sensibility towards nudity. The meaning of one discussion forum is to give possibility to everyone to explain his own opinion and to defend his own view, including the older boy and his close encirclement.

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[> [> [> Subject: Yoanna, I Agree We Can't Ignore The Feelings, But...


Author:
Fran
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Date Posted: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 07:09: am

Yoanna, you are correct in that we can't ignore the feelings, but what can the mother do? If the procedure is necessary, is she supposed to avoid doing it?

Don't you think education would be a better solution to the
problem? Shouldn't they have a conversation in which the
mother teaches them about the maturation process, explains
that it is natural, and that there is nothing shameful?

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[> [> [> [> Subject: By The Way, Yoanna, Welcome Back


Author:
Fran
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Date Posted: Monday, November 29, 2010, 10:21: pm

Yoanna, you've been away for a while but it is good to see you have returned. Your posts are always right on topic and due to your experience you always provide thoughtful and
helpful incite to the threads you choose to participate in. It is good to see you are back and posting again. Welcome!

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Olivia
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Date Posted: Friday, December 03, 2010, 11:51: am

I have boys 11 and 12 (nearly 13). I have always given them enemas. I have started transitioning the older one to self-administering. I let him lube himself start the colon tube insertion. Initiaqlly, he tended to give up too soon by himself--taking only a pint or so. So now, I make up a gallon of solution and tell him he has to take it all--however many enemas that is. I leave the door open and check on his progress. He has figured out that taking larger enemas is more efficient and he can get back to his activities sooner.

As for the erection thing, my sons are OK with dropping their pants in front of me. I noticed a few years ago that erections were more likely if I lubed them. Also, I confess I would insert my finger a couple of inches to see if there was anything in their rectum. So, since it was a little embarassing for them to have an erection, I now have them lube themelves with Gold Bond Had Creame (with Shea Butter). I lube the tube with KY and quickly insert it, start the flow and work it up into them and then start a converstion. Sometimes they take nearly the whole bag without realizing it.

I think I used to give them a little rectum check just to confirm my suspicions they were in fact constipated. But now I can tell by their breath, and their attitude whether or not they are constipated. When I tell them I believe they are constipated, the look on their face speaks volumes--like how does she know that. They have got to the point of knowing that when they need one, there is no escape. There Father backs me 100% and he meets any resistance with a simple statement that they can choose either their Mother or Father to give them their enemas---so far, they have chosen me.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


Author:
Giovanni
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Date Posted: Saturday, December 04, 2010, 07:10: pm

I think Olivia is right. Often my father was the one who realised from my behaviour I needed an enema. Then there was the breath test. "This brat has a toxic breath! For sure he needs a good amount of soapy water up his butt!" I protested I wasn't contipated also naked on the kitchen table with legs alredy taken up apart near my chest. So my mother was putting a whole finger into my arse hole. With the finger near my nose she was saying: "Now, what is this?" I was silent. So, my aunt: "The poor little prince is ashamed, but his father is right. With a nozzle up his bum and a belly full of soapy water soon he will not be so shy and will sing with full lungs his usual caca caca song!" She was unfortunately always a good prophet!

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys [giovanni]


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Date Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010, 03:31: am

can you discribe please , all the procss in this day till you was in full clothes untill you find your self on the the table and what was later

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010, 08:17: am

I read the post about getting the enema on a kitchen table which i find sort of a odd place to get a enema, How ever i had a friend when i was a kid & he told me his mom gave enemas on the kitchen table which i found very wierd, but the entire family was a bunch of wierdos in my book, they were real kooks & it would take up to much space to tell all of you the reasons why i thought they were a nutty family, Also one of my school friends told me he seen a neighbor boy getting a enema from his mom on a frickin ironing board in the kitchen, Yea wierdo rama is what that stuff was but we had a few of them in our small town, I can see proper giving a enema in a bathroom, celler,bedroom,laundry room but not a kitchen were peeps eat & i in fact found that discusting & the moms who were doing it in those kitchens were devote catholics, Go figure!

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Mike
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Date Posted: Monday, December 06, 2010, 09:44: am

Remember Kyle there are lots of people out there who are not sane like you and me.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Giovanni
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Date Posted: Tuesday, December 07, 2010, 07:22: am

I don't understand why enemas on kitchen tables for kids are so strange or even weird! When parents purge their children on the bath mat do they lie down with the constipated one? The kitchen table was covered up with a rubber sheet and my butt was at a height more appropriate for the need! On the table was also the potty. After the enema my buttocks were firmly kept shut from my mother for fifteen minutes. For avoiding a mess I was directly put on "my regal throne so that after his caca caca song we all can hear the music of the royal firewarks, better said the pooping and fating symphony of a well purged brat!" My father was for sure a no nonsense man who knew very well how to make red a boy's face, his rear end, or both!

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Tuesday, December 07, 2010, 07:47: am

Have you ever heard the term--- You don,t shit were you eat.

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010, 08:55: am

While I don't have any sons to relate to this thread, I feel that a childs modesty is a direct result of the parents own modesty concerning nudity. We don't run around the house naked nor due we cover up or chase the girls if they walk into the room while changing. They grew-up and continue to do so believing that the human body is not to be ashamed of, but than again not to be put on display either.

Just a modern mothers thoughts on the subject.

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[> [> Subject: Bunny And Alex Have The Right Idea, I Think


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Fran
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Date Posted: Thursday, December 09, 2010, 02:46: pm

I agree with Bunny who said her kids "grew-up and continue to do so believing that the human body is not to be ashamed of" and with Alex who said, "I agree this shouldn't be an issue". Alex went on to say, "My sister and I received enemas from our parents until we moved out, and it never caused any problems for us". He added, "I think it was an incredible family bonding experience".

Both Bunny and Alex were speaking from experience, unlike
some of the posters who disagree with them.

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Alex
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Date Posted: Thursday, December 09, 2010, 12:49: am

Yea, I agree this shouldnt be an issue. My sister and I received enemas from our parents until we moved out, and it never caused any problems for us. In fact, I think it was an incredibly family bonding experience.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Arthur
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Date Posted: Monday, February 28, 2011, 12:26: pm

Are boys get enemas in front siblings?

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Thursday, December 09, 2010, 03:03: pm

Three boys - 13, 15, and 18 - are growing up in our family. As all children, they have bowel problems sometimes. If any from boys is constipated more than 2 days, enema is the best method. Our family doctor agrees with me. Of course, all boys, especially oldest, don't like this procedure, however, they understand necessarity of it and I have little verbal protests only during preparation for enema.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Friday, December 10, 2010, 01:47: pm

Hi Katherina- could you tell me what eqiupment you use for your 3 boys(bag,bulb) which nozzles and solutions? also what postions for each age boys, Thanks!! Callie

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Katherina
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Date Posted: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 11:51: am

I used bulb for all 3 boys till their about 12 and continue it for youngest still. Both olders get enema, if they are needed, with enema bag. I use for enemas warm water only. We have one enema bag, but each from boys has own nozzle, although, it isn't so strict in our family. I use vaseline for nozzles before insertion, but, when children were younger, I applied vaseline by my finger on anus too.
About position. When I used bulb enema (for youngest and now), boy was over my lap. I spread his bottom by my left arm and inserted nozzle. Then, I gave water slowly enough for cramping prevention, and hold boy's bottom close a few minuts. Now, when boys are too big for this position, both olders get on side , when they are on the left side on the bed with extend left and maximally bend right leg.

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[> Subject: Alex Made A Good Point About Family Bonding


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Fran
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Date Posted: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 08:59: am

Above, Alex said "it was an incredible family bonding experience" during his youth.

I recall a post about a mother who received a surprise.
While the mother was away, she convinced her teen son to allow his adult sister to administer to him. The mother heard no more about it upon her return home.

After a few weeks the need arose again. When she told her son to prepare himself he surprised her by saying he would like to wait for his sister to come home later on.
Evidently they found it to be bonding experience which brought them to a closer and trusting relationship.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Alex Made A Good Point About Family Bonding


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KYLE
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Date Posted: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 10:54: am

After reading these posts i can see the point per say as no one of any age should have to expose the real private parts of the anatomy when getting a enema, exp maby for lil babies, teens for instance should only pull thier boxers or whites down just on the back side & leave the front part up so you dont see the real private parts, thats the part they dont want mom to see and i agree with that esp for a teen male or female, after all when getting a enema all you need to expose is the main target the rear end not the front, this is just my personal opinion but i do think its the proper way to give a enema at home.....

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[> [> Subject: Kyle, You May Have Figured Out The Reason


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Fran
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Date Posted: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 12:58: pm

Kyle, in your last post you said that a recipient "should only pull their boxers or whites down just on the back side & leave the front part up". This, coupled with the left-side postion would require minimal exposure of none at all.

That could be what made him prefer to have his sister do it.
Mothers sometimes forget that precaution because the have become accustomed to administering for many years. A sister, on the other hand is not used to administering and would surely use the method you've described to avoid embarrassment to herself or her brother.

That may be why he wanted to wait for his sister to return, but there could, of course, be other reasons, but the one you've suggested seems to be the most probable.

Can anyone think of a better reason than that?

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Monday, December 13, 2010, 03:10: am

Callie, I am kind of surprised that nobody else has mentioned another way you are contributing to this problem: Isn't age 14 just a bit old to be getting enemas over mom's lap? If you would use a position more appropriate to their ages (suggest Simms, where their genitals would not even be visible to you), erections would not be an issue. Or, as has also been mentioned, at their ages they are completely capable of doing their own enemas without mom's help.

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[> [> Subject: Callie Solved The Problem Already


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Fran
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Date Posted: Monday, December 13, 2010, 12:15: pm

Callie solved the problem by carrying out a suggestion from another poster. Everything is fine now, she says.
Please read the thread and you'll see that she has made the necessary changes.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Monday, December 13, 2010, 03:07: pm

I agree with stargazer that it be boy or girl over mom's lap at 14 is too old. Mom or child can't be comfortable in that position. Should mom really prefers that way than she could sit on the edge of the bed with the child across her lap with the torso and legs resting on the bed. She should also spread her leds so the receiver has their belly between her legs taking pressure off of the belly.

Yes a child of 14 is capable of taking their own enemas; however I don't believe that they will take as much solo as when being administered to. I have found this to be true with my 14 yo girl who will only take 1 1/2qt solo but 2qt if I give to her at her request. The same applies to me also.

Fran the above has an interesting story to it if you are interested under a different thread, im or email.

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[> [> [> Subject: Bunny, Would You Please Explain A Little More?


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Fran
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Date Posted: Monday, December 13, 2010, 07:55: pm

Bunny, in your first sentence above did you mean that a 14 year old is too old for an enema by his mother, or too old to have one over his mother's knee?

If you meant he was too old for that position, are you saying that another position might be more suitable? What other position might be more suitable, in your opinion?
How about the commonly used left side position?

If you meant that he should administer to himself, it is possible that his mother prefers to administer for him, since she knows him best and he may not be reliable.
Or, he may actually prefer her to do it for now at least.

You did say that your daughter, though capable, does not do it as effectively as you do, and thus you still administer.
Maybe the son we're discussing has similar faults.

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Bunny
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Date Posted: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 11:09: am

NO ONE IS TO OLD FOR ANY ENEMA FROM MOM IF BOTH ARE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, MALE OR FEMALE. 14 IS TO OLD FOR OVER THE LAP ON THE TOILET OR CHAIR.

MOM CAN ADMINISTER AS LONG AS HE IS WILLING TO ACCEPT HER CARE.

MY DAUGHTER IS CAPABLE TO TAKE 1 1/2QT SOLO AND THAT WORKS FINE FOR HER, EXCEPT FOR HER PERIOD ENEMAS WHEN SHE WANTS MORE VOLUMN, THAN I HELP HER OUT.

MAYBE THE BOY WOULD ONLY TAKE ENOUGH TILL THE 1ST CRAMP AND THAN CALL IT QUITS. KIDS CAN BE SUCH WIMPS.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 11:50: am

All i can say to this stuff is that kids also need privacy esp when the age 9 to 11 happens esp for boys as we know what happens at that age, the puberty thing when boys & girls get more self consiuous about them selfs esp thier private parts, That is why i said before if a kid has to get a enema from mom its just a simple thing of pulling down the back part of the undies and letting the front part stay up, its very easy with boys as most of them wear boxers now, those things stretch a lot so no problem pulling down the back & letting the front stay up so mom cant see the real private part even a jock strap would be fine for giving a enema as the front is covered and the bum, ie the target area is full exposed for the nozzle,I also think to let them wear a long sort of jersey too, no one has to be complete nude to get a enema, no one, but i guess they did that years ago which i find sort of goofy & strange, I was always partlay covered when i got my boyhood enemas, A hosptial johnny would work even better at home.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 02:46: pm

Kyle, what you say is true and right, but most moms never think of that even for boys as old as 9 to 11. My enemas ended when I was about 10, mom just stopped giving them to me. But I did get them I got them over her lap, before it started I would stand next to her and she would pull down my pants and my underpants, whomever was in the bathroom at the time got to watch this and the enema that followed. So, before the enema even started I was exposed, my mother thought nothing of this. I was worried about getting the enema so my embarrassement was minimal also until later on when I was teased for a bit. But that is the way it was, not much you could do about it.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 12:13: am

I wish not to hamper free speech, but at this point it seems like we are beating a dead horse. I am not sure that there is anything new to add to all of this one.

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 05:16: pm

When I was growing, regular enemas were usual thing in our family. My bro and me (we are twins) got enemas until 16.
We never embarrassed one other, but after about our 13, mom's enema was embarrassing enough. Unfortunatelly, for her it wasn't big deal and our modesty wasn't protected.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 05:32: pm

I was given enemas by my mom until about age 11 or 12 and self administered from then on. Enemas given by mom were always with me nude from the waist down and on my left side on my bed. All expulsions after enemas administered by mom were monitored while expelling to insure adequate results and being asked, and usually told, that I needed more soapy water before getting the plain water rinse. Self administered enemas were usually at the direction of mom and always told to be sure that the enemas contained enough Ivory soap to make the water very milky looking.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 12:17: pm

Our mom didn't believe that we could do enemas ourselves and, till our 16+, she did it and checked results herself. Moreover, after our 10-11, when we become too big for over her lap, she gave enemas on back position with bent and spread legs. She told, it's most convenient method for insertion nozzle and holding water enough time. Perhaps, she was right, but for us it was embarrassing enough, when mom could see everything. If we protested, mom told something you are twins and I'm your mom don't embarras...

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[> Subject: Callie Solved The Problem Due To A Suggestion Here


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Fran
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Date Posted: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 06:06: pm

When Callie was debating whether or not to continue administering to her sons who were becomming embarrassed, someone here suggested athletic supporters.
Callie wrote back saying she tried it and her sons had no more problems about her administering.

Athletic supporters are an ideal solution, and they go along with Kyle's suggestions about minimizing exposure, although he had an alternative suggestion. The idea was the same: to cover the front, but expose the "target" area for administering, as he so aptly put it.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Callie Solved The Problem Due To A Suggestion Here


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Date Posted: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 11:38: am

Yoy are right completely! My son got enemas till his 17 and he never was embarrassed, if I saw his rear only. Nevertheless, his front was "forbidden place" for me since his 12, when appeared his first body hair. Before enema he wore athletic supporteg and didn't have any shame, when I gave him enema.

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Friday, December 17, 2010, 01:58: pm

I believe that age 14, mom could mix the solution and the amount that she wants the boys to have, and then hand the equipment ready to go to the two boys who could go into the bathroom, get undressed and then give each other the enema. Doing this provides for an excellent bonding opportunity between the two boys. Also, in privacy, they can masturbate and do whatever together. Just remember; boys who get enemas at that age or younger, whether solo or with their brothers, will usually masturbate after the enema has been completed. Giving the enemas to each other teaches the boys that what they they are not alone masturbating, that it is common, is NOT a singular thing, and that it is a totally normal thing to do.

That's my story.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Friday, December 17, 2010, 02:55: pm

How old was your brother, when you was 14?

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[> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Thursday, December 23, 2010, 02:20: pm

Callie, you tell: "I am a 41 you single mom. I have twin boys age 14. They have constipation issues and I have to give them an enema about every 2 weeks or sometimes more often. They both never objected too much till laterly. They protect they are too old for enemas from a lady. I have been seeing a guy for 3 years and they like him very much. He knows they need enemas but has never offered to help. Both boys have said they would have no objection. ARe any other moms faced with this problem? Suggestion place!! I need help!"


Don't worry, everything is normal. Embarrassment your boys is naturally, but you are their mother and mother's care is more important than modesty of your sons. I'm growing up my son alone. Jack is almost 16 now and his embarrassment to be naked in front me is natural and understanding. Nevertheless, when he has constipation, I give him enema the same as earlier. By the way, if he neglected his hygiene (it hapens sometimes), I check his cleanliness despite his age and his protests. If he deserves punishment, he gets usual barebottomed spanking.
Callie, our boys aren't too old for resisting mother's care.
Happy Holydays for you and your twins.
Margaret

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys[magaret]


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Date Posted: Friday, December 24, 2010, 04:23: am

im curious in which way you spank your old boy

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys[magaret]


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Date Posted: Monday, December 27, 2010, 05:38: pm

did your older boy try to resist you ?

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[> [> [> Subject: Magaret & Older Boys


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Date Posted: Monday, December 27, 2010, 06:30: pm

usually, by the time a boy IS 'older,' he doesn't resist as strongly as he might have at a younger age.

Helping men and boys get 'comfortable' enemas is often quite enjoyable. I know it works that way, for me.

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Margaret
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Date Posted: Monday, December 27, 2010, 02:47: pm

"im curious in which way you spank your old boy"

He gets with hairbrush bent over my left knee.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Date Posted: Wednesday, February 09, 2011, 04:49: pm

Margaret,
you seem to have a lot of experience in raising a boy.
I am a single mother of a 13yo boy who is often very stubborn and lacks of hygiene. May I ask you a few questions?
How do you check the cleanliness of your son?
Which position takes your son for getting an enema?
Does he also get erections in front of you because of his embarrassment?
Does the bare bottomed spankings improves his behaviour?
Thank you in advance,
Mary

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Date Posted: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 02:22: pm

Mary- To check my twins, I have them in the knee/chest postion on the bed. Spread thir cheeks as wide as possibel and inspect them with a stong maglite. I also put them in the same position for enemas and suppositories but also otk(they prefer otk).Yes they both get erections at even the mention of an enema or suppos but I tell them not to worry all men do that.YES! a good otk spanking immensely improve their behavior and I have given punishment enemas also.

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Date Posted: Friday, February 18, 2011, 01:36: pm

Mary, yes, my son is almost 3 years older than your, but, as I see, we have the same problems, sometimes. I'l try answer your questions. I believe, it can help you.

How do you check the cleanliness of your son?
If Jack has skid-marks on underpants, I can see it during preparation for laundry. Then, I call him, show him his dirty underpants and explain that such big boy ought to wipe himself better. I tell him to show me his bottom right here and now. Of course, he do it reluctantly, but he has to pull down trousers and underpants, bent, and spread bottom's cheeks by hands. If he is dirty, I wipe him myself. A few days after, I check him daily, usually, before school and, when he goes in bed. A few weeks, at least, I have no problems with quality of his wiping.

Which position takes your son for getting an enema?
I give him enema on left side after his 14. Earlier, he got it over my lap.


Does he also get erections in front of you because of his embarrassment?
Naturally, he has erections often enough, including almost daily morning. He is normally developed boy, and has "wet-dreams" since his almost 13. I explained him that erection is natural reaction boy's body in his age.

Does the bare bottomed spankings improves his behaviour?
Yes!

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Mary
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Date Posted: Monday, February 21, 2011, 05:03: pm

Callie and Margaret,
thank you much for your kind answers. I have a few more questions, if you allow?

Callie, how do you give punishment enemas to your twins and how they react?
Margaret, do you give punishment enemas to your son, too? If yes, how does he take them? Have your son also an erection because of getting an enema?
Callie and Margaret, which mixture do you use for punishment enemas? Causes it spasms?
Callie and Margaret, I have also heard of orgasms of teens getting enemas. Do you have experiences with that problem?

Thank you in advance for your answers!
Mary

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Margaret to Mary
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Date Posted: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 02:16: pm

Mary, I never used enema as punishment! It's part of mom's care only, if child has constipation. If my son has no stool 3 days, I give him bag enema. It isn't very often thing, however, on average, monthly he has "cleaning of bowel".
Yes, usually, at least, last 2 years, he has erection during enema, but it's normaly and naturaly for his age.

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Mary
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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 01:39: am

It's part of mom's care only, if child has constipation?

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[> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Mary
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Date Posted: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 04:17: am

Thank you for your answer, Margaret.
How does your son take his normal enemas? Does he cooperate or do you have to discipline him because he doesn't want the enemas? Do you also know the orgasm problem?

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Margaret
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Date Posted: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 02:05: pm

Mary, hi.
Of course, Jack, I think, as all boys in this age, doesn't like to get enema. However, he knows that enema follows after constipation and understands necessarity it. He preparates for enema reluctantly enough, but, in result, he himself goes in reguest position - on left side, with straight left leg and maximally bent right. Now, I use bag enema for him, and it's convenient position for me. Earlier, when I used bulb, he got over my lap. When Jack was younger, he had choice sometimes (when tried refuse from enema) - enema or enema after spanking? In his honor, he always did right choice.
About "orgasm problems". At least, a few times, he had wetness around his penis during enema. In his age it's naturally, I think. Any case, after enema and expelling, he has to take shower.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Mary
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Date Posted: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 11:42: am

Thank you very much, Margaret. I am relieved now, that you think it is naturally.
My son also has wet spots around his penis during enema, but always. And he has erections all the time. From time to time I spanked him for that, because I thought he is lustful, but now there is no need for that anymore.
Mostly he struggles to get an enema so I also have to spank him until he cooperates. He has to go on all fours into the bath tub, you know. He often has constipation so actually he gets an enema twice the week.
As an experienced mother of an older boy, do you have an advice how to get his cooperation without spanking?

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Margaret to Mary
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Date Posted: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 02:32: pm

Mary, I would like to hope that my advice will be useful for you. I think, you have to speak with your son frankly. Explain him that enema is necessarity if he is constipated. Ask him why he is uncooperative. If it's embarrassment only, tell him that you can't see any new on his body and it's usual part of mom's care. Perhaps, he has pain during insertion of enemas noddle and needs be more lubricated. Mary, are you check result of enema and son's wiping after? Does your son expell after enema in your presence or privately?

Mary, you told - "And he has erections all the time. From time to time I spanked him for that, because I thought he is lustful, but now there is no need for that anymore."
I'm sorry, but it's your big mistake! Boy's erection is unvoluntary process and your son, as all boys, can't rules it! I think, you ought to ignore appearing his erection, because it's natural process. Which is your opinion?

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Mary
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Date Posted: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 05:59: pm

Margaret, thank you for answering so soon.
I often have spoken to my son frankly and explained him why the enema is necessary, but he is stubborn and nasty without cause. I lubricate both noddle and his anus, that's not the point. He doesn't feel pain. But if I ask him why he is uncooperative, he only says, "because it's disgusting and I don't want that!" Only if I slap his face and spank him he goes "voluntarily" on all fours in the bath tub and presents me his sore bottom for the enema. his face full of tears and snot. I always check results of enema and I wipe after by myself. He expells in my presence. Margaret, don't forget, he isn't so old. But why did you ask that?

Speaking of your second issue, I think you didn't understand me. I meant that thanks to you I understand now that he isn't lustful, so I don't have to spank him for that in future.
Do you think it is a good way to let him masturbate himself before an enema to avoid his erections? I also heard and read about mothers who "milk" their sons to avoid erections, so they don't have to masturbate.
Which is your opinion?

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Date Posted: Friday, February 25, 2011, 09:49: am

Mary, hi.
You told that your son gets enema twice in week. May I ask you give more information about this procedure?
You tells "his face full of tears and snot". Of course, 13-year-old boy isn't too old, but even my almost 16-year-old Jack gets more calmly. If I will have more information, perhaps, I will be able give you more certain advice.

"Do you think it is a good way to let him masturbate himself before an enema to avoid his erections?"
Mary, I'm sure, you know that masturbation is natural thing for teen boys. Don't worry about it. He himself will have time and place for it, but you may give him time before enema, indeed. Boys are boys. Of course, give him possibility to do it privately. I don't think that you ought to watch it.

"I also heard and read about mothers who "milk" their sons to avoid erections, so they don't have to masturbate." - Absolutelly, NO! He only can do it himself, and without your observation.

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Date Posted: Friday, February 25, 2011, 01:37: pm

Hello, Margaret,
what do you want to know exactly about the procedure?
Please tell me your questions so that I know.

Concerning the masturbation matter, I will take your kind advice, Margaret. Do you also send your son to do it in private when you see his erection?

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Date Posted: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 02:51: pm

Mary, hello.

"what do you want to know exactly about the procedure?"
-When do you give enema? Are you have specially scheduled time? What you tell your son, when want give him enema? How you spank him, if he refuses or resists? Which implement do you use - bulb or suringe? How you spread his cheeks for noddle insertion? How you lubricate his anus - superficially only or your finger goes inside? Are you use glove or work with bare finger? By the way, what is name of your son?

"Do you also send your son to do it in private when you see his erection?
Mary, usually, I ignore it, but, if Jack has full erection already, , when he is naked down waist before enema or spanking, I send him in bathroom and he returns after about 10 minuts without it. When he deserves spanking, in any case, after his 13, I put pillow over my knee and his erection, appearing sometimes, doesn't trouble me.

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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011, 03:43: am

Hello, Margaret!

I will try to answer your questions as exactly as possible.

- When do you give enema? Are you have specially scheduled time?

I give it usually after diner, at Wednesday and Saturday.

- What you tell your son, when want give him enema?

I say something like: "Sweetie, you know, it's time for your enema now. Let's go." And if he doesn't obeys: "Come on, move your ass, or must I trash you again?"

- How you spank him, if he refuses or resists?

It's different. Depending on my temper and his nastiness, I use the hand (for his face or when I pull his ear, than only by hand, of course), a slipper, a hairbrush and a cane. The first three "tools" he gets over the knee, but face slappings on his cheeks, of course. For the cane he has to bend over a table.

- Which implement do you use - bulb or suringe?

I use the syringe.

- How you spread his cheeks for noddle insertion?

With my hand, what else? He is on all fours, he cannot do it.

- How you lubricate his anus - superficially only or your finger goes inside? Are you use glove or work with bare finger?

My finger goes inside. I don't use gloves.
Like you say by yourself, there is no spot at my son's body I don't haven't seen and touched a thousand times before.

- By the way, what is name of your son?

His name is Jacob.

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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011, 12:01: pm

Hi, Mary.
Thank you for answers. If my opinion is interesting for you, I think, you are doing everything right. However, perhaps, you ought to more speak with Jacob, because 13-year-old boys are stubborn enough ( I remember my Jack 2 years ago!). Without doubt, boy needs in discipline strict enough, but after conversations his resisting will decrease.
If you have additional questions, I'l answer with my pleasure.
Good luck! My kiss to Jacob.
Margaret

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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011, 12:49: pm

Dear Margaret,

thank you very much for your kindness. I will follow your advices.

Would you please also answer a few of your questions by yourself? I would be glad.

-When do you give enema?
- Are you have specially scheduled time?
- What you tell your son, Jack, when want give him enema?
- Which implement do you use - bulb or suringe?
- How you spread his cheeks for noddle insertion?
- How you lubricate his anus - superficially only or your finger goes inside?
- Are you use glove or work with bare finger?

A few additional questions:

- Has your son cramps during enema?
- If yes, how does he react and what do you do or say?

Kisses,
Mary

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Date Posted: Sunday, March 06, 2011, 04:17: pm

Dear Mary, I'm sorry, I couldn't answer earlier. I understand, my answers are interesting for you, because my Jack is little older your Jacob.


"When do you give enema?
Are you have specially scheduled time?" -
I have no special time, because I dont't use regular enemas for Jack. He gets it, if he is constipated more than 2 days. Usually, on third day of constipation, he gets cleaning enema. I know him very well and can see when he is constipated - decreasing of appetites, stomack pain... He himself doesn't tell me about constipation, however, on my right questions answers honestly. On average, he has my cleaning enema 1-2 times monthly.

- "What you tell your son, Jack, when want give him enema?" - I tell "Jacky, your stomack needs help in cleanig. Let, will do it"

- "Which implement do you use - bulb or suringe?" -
Till his 12, when he got over my knee, I used bulb, but now I use bag enema with 2 qt warm soap water.

- "How you spread his cheeks for noddle insertion?" -
now, Jack gets on the left side with extend left leg and maximally bent right. When I spread his right cheek by my left hand, I have completelly open view on his anus and can insert enema's noddle without any problem.

-" How you lubricate his anus - superficially only or your finger goes inside?" - I lubricated his anus inside till his about 12, but now he is big enough and lubricating of noddle is enough for him.

- "Are you use glove or work with bare finger?" - No , he is my son, and I never used gloves for care. Even untill his 12, I lubricated his anus (after previous wiping by wet towell) by my index finger only

- "Has your son cramps during enema?" - it happens sometimes, if rate of water from bag is too fast.


-"If yes, how does he react and what do you do or say?"
If Jack complains on craping pain or moanes, I'm doing break on a few minutes, massaging his belly by round movements of my hand, and then continue water with more little rate.

Mary, I hope, I answered on your questions, but, If you will have additional, I'l answer with pleasure.
However, I have a few questions for you?

1. How long Jack ought to hold water before expelling?
2. How he expell for your control - on the tube or special potty?
3. You give him regular evening enemas on Wednesday and Saturday. However, what you do, if someone, except you, present in your home in this days - guests, relativs, or his friends sleepover, - what you do? Is enema cancell or you do it inother day?
4. In general, know his friends that he has regular enema or it's family secret?
5.If know, could anyone see it, and if yes, till which age?

My kisses to you and Jacob.

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Date Posted: Monday, March 07, 2011, 07:03: pm

Hi, Margaret,
I'm glad to be able to answer your questions.

1. How long Jack ought to hold water before expelling?

I think you mean Jacob? He has to hold half an hour.

2. How he expell for your control - on the tube or special potty?

Into the bathtub.

3. You give him regular evening enemas on Wednesday and Saturday. However, what you do, if someone, except you, present in your home in this days - guests, relativs, or his friends sleepover, - what you do? Is enema cancell or you do it inother day?

No, there's no cause to cancel or do it another day.
They have to wait until I'm ready with Jacob.
It's my opinion that his hygiene is more important.

4. In general, know his friends that he has regular enema or it's family secret?

Why should it be a secret? I see absolutely no cause!

5.If know, could anyone see it, and if yes, till which age?

No, it's a thing between him and me.

In love,
Mary

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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 08, 2011, 02:28: pm

"I think you mean Jacob? He has to hold half an hour."
Mary, yes, of course, it was my mistake. I asked about Jacob, indeed. Can he hold water half an hour without accident? Which position he has during this time? I ask Jack hold water 15 minutes only and, sometimes, he uses big potty, when can't hold water suddenly.

"No, it's a thing between him and me."
Mary, I think, you are right here completely. It's between mother and child only. You know, Jack is spanked by me still, when he deserves punishment, and, sometimes, I don't hesistate to spank him in front my friends. However, enema is process, which requests intimaty, and after Jack's about 8, nobody saw it.

My kisses you and Jacob,
Margaret

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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 08, 2011, 04:09: pm

Hi, Margaret,

"Can he hold water half an hour without accident? Which position he has during this time?"

He has to stay on all fours in the bathtub during this time. In the beginning, he didn't manage it to hold the water all the time, but it is fantastic how spankings help a young brat to learn, isn't it? Don't you agree?

"sometimes, I don't hesistate to spank him in front my friends. However, enema is process, which requests intimaty, and after Jack's about 8, nobody saw it."

I totally agree with you, Margaret. I also spank Jacob in front of others, but in the helpless enema position no one should see him out of his mother.

With Love,
Mary

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Date Posted: Wednesday, March 09, 2011, 07:59: pm

Mary, hi.
I see, we have almost the same opinions about mother's care and rearing of our boys.
Mary, according to you schedule, today, Wednesday, is day for Jacob's enema. How was it today? Did he resisted still or your conversation with him had positive result?
May I ask a few additional questions?

1. How old was Jacob, when you started regular enemas twice weekly?
2. Which age had Jacob, when appeared his embarrassment to be naked in front you?
3. Which age had Jacob, when he started to embarrass get spanking in front anyone?
4. Who were and are witnesses of his spankings?
5. Are witnesses were invited specially or it was accidentally?
6. How old was Jacob, when he could wipe his bottom himself clean enough (after usual poop, because, as I understood right, after enema you wipe him yoursef till now, really?)
7. How your checked his wiping after poop, and when you stopped do it?
8. How often do you spank Jacob now and how many smacks he gets?
9. Which are reason for spankings?
10. What you do, if during spanking, can see that Jacob's crack isn't clean enough? Alas, even my almost 16-year-old Jack gives me such surprises sometimes.
11. When started Jacob's puberty and which firsts signs could you see then?
12. What changes in his behavior appeared then?
13. Did Jacob resist enema always or was age, when appeared resisting?


Mary, how many questions, really? However, it's interesting for me and, perhaps, for you, because we can comparate development Jacob and Jack, indeed. If you have any questions, I'l try answer with my pleasure.

I wish you lucky in today Jacob's enema. Tell him "be good" from me and my kiss him.

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Date Posted: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 07:24: am


Margaret , hi
I know from other post that you check your son cleanliness before bed in diaper position ( thay is, on his back bent legs ) why do you stop it?

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Date Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 12:35: pm

Lora, of course, this position is the best for evaluation of cleanliness. However, now, Jack is big enough for regular checking his bottom, as I did earlier. Nevertheless, if he has much skid-marks on his underpants (boys are boys!), I check him sometimes, despite his protests. Yes, I use diaper position, when he is in bed. If his bottom isn't clean enough, he ought to go in bathroom and wipe himself under my supervision. By the way, sometimes, I can assess his cleanliness, when see his crack during spanking because he gets 1-2 times monthly still. Boys are boys!

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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 02:11: pm

Hello, Margaret,

I am very sorry for answering not earlier but I was very busy during the last days. Please accept my apologies, will you?

You asked "Today, Wednesday, is day for Jacob's enema. How was it today? Did he resisted still or your conversation with him had positive result?"

Yes, I've told to him kindly but he is still unwilling and disobedient and so he also was at Saturday. I'm afraid I have to continue his punishments. Do you have an advice for a more effective punishment?

You asked "May I ask a few additional questions?"

Of course, dear Margaret.

1. How old was Jacob, when you started regular enemas twice weekly?

He was 10.

2. Which age had Jacob, when appeared his embarrassment to be naked in front you?

In the same year.

3. Which age had Jacob, when he started to embarrass get spanking in front anyone?

In the same year. He was especially embarrassed because of his erections.

4. Who were and are witnesses of his spankings?

Our neighbour (a 60 y. o. woman), Jacob’s friends, his aunt and his cousins.

5. Are witnesses were invited specially or it was accidentally?

It was only accidentally. Why should I invite someone to this?

6 + 7. How old was Jacob, when he could wipe his bottom himself clean enough (after usual poop, because, as I understood right, after enema you wipe him yoursef till now, really?)
How your checked his wiping after poop, and when you stopped do it?

Margaret, in truth, he isn't old enough until today. I have always to check and to wipe after still once a day, at evening.

8. How often do you spank Jacob now and how many smacks he gets?

He usually gets between 30 and 50 smacks with the hand and between 10 and 25 with other "tools".

9. Which are reason for spankings?

You have a big boy and still spank him, Margaret, you surely know all the possible reasons!
But I think, I already mentioned that he get spankings for resisting his enemas and that he got it for having an erection and catching him masturbating.

10. What you do, if during spanking, can see that Jacob's crack isn't clean enough? Alas, even my almost 16-year-old Jack gives me such surprises sometimes.

Oh yes, I know that. I wipe after when the punishment is over, what else?

11. When started Jacob's puberty and which firsts signs could you see then?

I think he his still in the beginning. His pubic hair and his privates starts to grow.

12. What changes in his behavior appeared then?

He isn't as amenable as before. He is more stubborn than ever before.

13. Did Jacob resist enema always or was age, when appeared resisting?

In the last year, he started to try resisting it always.

I hope you are content with my answers.
Please answer your own questions for me, okay?

In love,
Mary

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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 03:04: pm

Sorry, Margaret, I made a mistake at point 1.
Jacob was 11, nearly 12.

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Date Posted: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 12:14: pm

Hi, Mary,
I offer you some my comments and answrs on your (and my own!) questions.

"Yes, I've told to him kindly but he is still unwilling and disobedient and so he also was at Saturday. I'm afraid I have to continue his punishments. Do you have an advice for a more effective punishment?" -
- Mary, I understand, it's big problem for you, because it's repeats twice in week. Any case, you make decision for your 13-year-old Jacob and he has no to be out of discipline. If you decide that he needs in regular enemas, it must be so. However, continue to speak with him about it. For example, speak with him one day, where no scheduled enema. Explain him, that enema will be done in any case and it's undisputable, but he has own choice to get spanking before enema or get enema without previous spanking. In enema day take off his clothes and give him 15-20 min for thoughts - spanking and then enema or enema now. Offer him any bonus - may be, if it's important for him, promise to change position for enema. If your attempts will be unsuccessfully, and you want to use "more effective punishment", I may recomend before spanking to wipe his bottom (cheeks and crack) by wet towell. You will get 2 results - clean bottom for spanking and, moreover, wet cheeks are more sensitive and spanking will be more effective. However, for beginning, speak with him!

"Please answer your own questions for me, okay?" -
Mary, of course, with my pleasure, as comment on your answers. It will be comparison our opinions and development of our boys, really?


1. How old was Jacob, when you started regular enemas twice weekly?
He was 10. - I don't use regular enemas for Jack, and he gets it if has constipation, on average 1-2 times monthly.

2. Which age had Jacob, when appeared his embarrassment to be naked in front you?
In the same year. - He was about 12

3. Which age had Jacob, when he started to embarrass get spanking in front anyone?
In the same year. He was especially embarrassed because of his erections. - I know, he didn't like it after 10-11, but especially after 13.

4. Who were and are witnesses of his spankings?
Our neighbour (a 60 y. o. woman), Jacob’s friends, his aunt and his cousins. - The most often my friend and her son, who is 14 now. Her daughter sometimes watched Jack's punishments too, but till his 12 only. They are our nextdoor neighbors.

5. Are witnesses were invited specially or it was accidentally?
It was only accidentally. Why should I invite someone to this? - Yes, sometimes, if Jack is very guilty, I specially invited them for watching. Mike was spanked in front Jack and me many times too.

6 + 7. How old was Jacob, when he could wipe his bottom himself clean enough (after usual poop, because, as I understood right, after enema you wipe him yoursef till now, really?)
How your checked his wiping after poop, and when you stopped do it?
-Margaret, in truth, he isn't old enough until today. I have always to check and to wipe after still once a day, at evening.-
- Mary, I understand you completely. Jack could wipe himself since 7, but he neglected sometimes. I checked him constantly till about 10, episodically till 12. Later everything was OK, but I was amazed, when appeared promblems with his cleanliness after 14 and even now still! A few my friends, who have more older boys than Jack, tells it's happens with teen-boys, who consider themselves big enough for following hygiene rules. They are "macho"! Boys are boys, but we are mothers and have to teach and check them.

8. How often do you spank Jacob now and how many smacks he gets?
He usually gets between 30 and 50 smacks with the hand and between 10 and 25 with other "tools". - 20-30 smacks with hairbrush depend on transgressions. I have 3 grade color of bottom for different grade of punishment - light (bottom is pink after spanking), medium (bright-red) and heavy (dark-red).

9. Which are reason for spankings?
You have a big boy and still spank him, Margaret, you surely know all the possible reasons!
But I think, I already mentioned that he get spankings for resisting his enemas and that he got it for having an erection and catching him masturbating. -
- MARY, I'm sorry, but you make big MISTAKE. You have no to spank Jacob for erections and masturbations!!! Erection is uncontroled process and boy can't hold it, if it appears! Masturbation is normal and natural process in boys development! If you don't believe me, ask your doctor!
If you want ask me about it more, I'l answer more detail, because it's important for Jacob.

10. What you do, if during spanking, can see that Jacob's crack isn't clean enough? Alas, even my almost 16-year-old Jack gives me such surprises sometimes.
Oh yes, I know that. I wipe after when the punishment is over, what else? - I wipe Jack BEFORE spanking in this case. He hates this procedure, especially, if Nancy and /or Mike can see it.

11. When started Jacob's puberty and which firsts signs could you see then?
I think he his still in the beginning. His pubic hair and his privates starts to grow. _Jack is matured almost completely now. When he was 12, during a spanking I have seen little hairs in low part of his crack, then their appeared around penis. It was his first signs.

12. What changes in his behavior appeared then?

He isn't as amenable as before. He is more stubborn than ever before. - My Jack too


Mary, I have 3 questions for you:
1. Why you started regular enemas, when Jacob was 10 already?
2.How you do evening checking of Jacob's cleanliness?
3.Which is Jacob's night clothes?

Hug you and kiss Jacob,
Mary
P.S. Jack send regard to Jacob

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Date Posted: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 02:32: pm

Hello Margaret,

many thanks for your answers and advices.

"However, continue to speak with him about it. For example, speak with him one day, where no scheduled enema. Explain him, that enema will be done in any case and it's undisputable, but he has own choice to get spanking before enema or get enema without previous spanking. In enema day take off his clothes and give him 15-20 min for thoughts - spanking and then enema or enema now. Offer him any bonus - may be, if it's important for him, promise to change position for enema."

Yes, I will do that. But you said "In enema day take off his clothes and give him 15-20 min for thoughts" What shall he do during this time? Stand in the corner, for example? Or getting away his erection?

"If your attempts will be unsuccessfully, and you want to use "more effective punishment", I may recomend before spanking to wipe his bottom (cheeks and crack) by wet towell. You will get 2 results - clean bottom for spanking and, moreover, wet cheeks are more sensitive and spanking will be more effective."

That is a very good idea, thank you for that.
Did you make yourself experiences with the higher sensitivity of wet cheeks for spanking?

"Her daughter sometimes watched Jack's punishments too, but till his 12 only. They are our nextdoor neighbors."

You really let a girl next door watch your son's spankings? How old was she? How was it for Jack?

"I specially invited them for watching. Mike was spanked in front Jack and me many times too."

Can you explain how that meetings took place?
Was it only in the past or do these meetings still take place?

"Boys are boys, but we are mothers and have to teach and check them."

Yeah, I totally agree to you, Margaret!

"I have 3 grade color of bottom for different grade of punishment - light (bottom is pink after spanking), medium (bright-red) and heavy (dark-red)."

Ho do you exactly get these different grades, when you give him 20 - 30 smacks each time?

"If you want ask me about it more, I'l answer more detail, because it's important for Jacob."

Yes, Margaret, please answer more detailed.
Why do you know so much about that? What are your experiences with Jack?

"1. Why you started regular enemas, when Jacob was 10 already?"

No, as I corrected myself, he was 11, nearly 12.
He started to have constipation very often, and the doctor adviced to use regular enemas.

"2.How you do evening checking of Jacob's cleanliness?"

He has to remove his trousers and pants, then to bend over and to spread his cheeks with his hands. I cover my forefinger with toilet paper and insert it into his anus. If I find marks, he gets a few smacks and I wipe after with a wet cloth.

"3.Which is Jacob's night clothes?"
He sleeps naked, sometimes in a shortie. We live in a warm region.

Thank you for your attention and help, Margaret.
Please answer my questions.

In love,
Mary

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Date Posted: Friday, March 18, 2011, 01:28: pm

Hello, Mary,
with my pleasure, I'l give you some explanations about my previous answers on your questions.



"In enema day take off his clothes and give him 15-20 min for thoughts" What shall he do during this time? Stand in the corner, for example? Or getting away his erection?" - it's time, when he is preparated already for enema or, according to your rules for before-enema spanking, if he is resisting. Offer him his own choice - enema now or enema after spanking. I think, for 15-20 min he will du right choice.

"If your attempts will be unsuccessfully, and you want to use "more effective punishment", I may recomend before spanking to wipe his bottom (cheeks and crack) by wet towell. You will get 2 results - clean bottom for spanking and, moreover, wet cheeks are more sensitive and spanking will be more effective."
That is a very good idea, thank you for that.
Did you make yourself experiences with the higher sensitivity of wet cheeks for spanking? - Yes, Mary, sometimes, when I see that his bottom isn't clean enough (it's seen easy, when he is bend over my knee before beginning of spanking), I wipe his by wet towell and, then, begin to spank you. In this cases, he cries and squirmes more than usually. He himself told me that spanking after "bathing ass" is more painfull. Moreover, he hates, if I wet his bottom in front spanking, especially, in anyone presence. By the way, last time I wiped him so before spanking about 3 months ago in Nancy's presence. She knows Jack sinc his baby-age, has own sone Mike , and view of wiping Jack's bottom, before getting spanking, couldn't schoked her. Although, Jack was embarrassed, but he had to know, if he violates hygiene rules, mom will check and do it.

"Her daughter sometimes watched Jack's punishments too, but till his 12 only. They are our nextdoor neighbors."
You really let a girl next door watch your son's spankings? How old was she? How was it for Jack? -
- Mary, Nancy's daughter, Jessica is 5 years older Jack, and 7 years older her own brother Mike. Numerous times she babysat both boys, when they were little. When Jack was younger, I never hesistated to spank him in Jessica's presence, but after his 10-11 he was embarrassed that she could saw it. No big deal. Some embarrassment is part of punishment for boys. Nevertheless, when appeared Jack's first signs of puberty, I stopped to spank him in front Jessica, although, he gets in front Nancy and Mike sometimes still.

"I specially invited them for watching. Mike was spanked in front Jack and me many times too."
Can you explain how that meetings took place?
Was it only in the past or do these meetings still take place? - We are living in home, where we have the 1st floor, but Nancy with family, the second. Any case, if any from kids is punished, other can heard it. Traditionally for both our families, if child did something unusually bad or very forbidden, culprit gets in front both families. Jessica got the same (but very rarely, indeed) till her about 12. Boys get so still. Last time, Jack was spanked by me in front Nancy and Mike about 3 months ago. He returned at home after party drunken, but it's absolutelly forbidden for him. On next day, when he awaken, I invited Nancy and Mike down, in our living room.
Jack was lectured by me and Nancy, then he had to take off everything down waist, what he did very reluctantly. I bent him over my knee for spanking and have seen that his behind was dirty enough! I asked Nancy to bring me wet towell, thoroughly wiped his hairy behind and he got strong spanking. He cried and squirmed as little boy, and when I stopped to spank him, he really bawled. However, I think for drinking in his age he deserves such punishment. Nancy told for Mike it was very usefull lesson too.

"Boys are boys, but we are mothers and have to teach and check them."
Yeah, I totally agree to you, Margaret! - Mary, despite their age and maturation, Jack and, especially, your Jacob are boys only with their stubborness and foolish acts. We are responsible in front God and society for their raising.

"I have 3 grade color of bottom for different grade of punishment - light (bottom is pink after spanking), medium (bright-red) and heavy (dark-red)."
Ho do you exactly get these different grades, when you give him 20 - 30 smacks each time? - if honestly, sometimes he gets less than 20, but good 30 give him sore enough dark-red bottom.

"If you want ask me about it more, I'l answer more detail, because it's important for Jacob." - Mary, what is interesting for you? With my pleasure, I'l ask on concrete questions, if will be able do it.

Why do you know so much about that? What are your experiences with Jack? - Mary, I read books for parents, spoke with our pediatrician (he is very nice gentleman, 65+, but he continue to work), spoke with women in our church, who have sons more older than Jack.

"1. Why you started regular enemas, when Jacob was 10 already?"

No, as I corrected myself, he was 11, nearly 12.
He started to have constipation very often, and the doctor adviced to use regular enemas. - Clearly.

"2.How you do evening checking of Jacob's cleanliness?"

He has to remove his trousers and pants, then to bend over and to spread his cheeks with his hands. I cover my forefinger with toilet paper and insert it into his anus. If I find marks, he gets a few smacks and I wipe after with a wet cloth. - Mary, may be checking his crack without daily finger's insertion in anus will be enough?

"3.Which is Jacob's night clothes?"
He sleeps naked, sometimes in a shortie. We live in a warm region. - Jack wore PJ till 13, now he preffers boxers.


Mary, I'l wait your answers.
My kisses you and Jacob,
Margaret

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Mary to Margaret
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Date Posted: Friday, March 18, 2011, 02:59: pm

Hello Margaret,
thank you very much for your answers.

"it's time, when he is preparated already for enema or, according to your rules for before-enema spanking, if he is resisting. Offer him his own choice - enema now or enema after spanking. I think, for 15-20 min he will du right choice."

Yes, Margaret, i will do that and tell you about.

"We are responsible in front God and society for their raising."

True words, Margaret, really! Well spoken!

"Mary, may be checking his crack without daily finger's insertion in anus will be enough?"

What do you mean, Margaret? I wipe after each time and I give him a shower after each of the two weekly enemas. What else can I do? Ho do you check Jack?

Mary, I am very thankfull for your experience and advice. You must know about Jacob and me, that I was 15 as I got Jacob. I am 28 now, I have no complete graduation and no education because I mostly had to care for my son. Some people call me naive or even dumb. Perhaps they are right. But what I know I learned by myself. While Jacob is in school, I'm working fulltime as a waitress to earn money for my son and me. The little time I can spend with my son I have to raise him with love, but very strictly. I don't want him to become a gangster, you know.
I am very thankfull for every advice you can give me. Do you think we could e-mail each other?

In love,
Mary

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Margaret to Mary
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Date Posted: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 02:39: am

Mary, I'l answer shortly now about one your question. It was this our dialogue:

"Mary, may be checking his crack without daily finger's insertion in anus will be enough?"
What do you mean, Margaret? I wipe after each time and I give him a shower after each of the two weekly enemas. What else can I do? Ho do you check Jack?"

Mary, I meant, that your finger in his anus (if I understood you right) isn't useful for Jacob in his age. If you check him, when he is bent with spread cheeks, take paper and wipe his crack. It would be enough for evaluation of cleanliness, really? By the way, you may use your evening checking for Jacob's training. Give him wipes himself and you will have 2 results - evaluation of cleanliness and increaing his skills under your supervision. Are you agree?
Mary, I understand, you are very loving mom. About "very strictly" - boys need in discipline.
Today Jacob will have enema. Tell him "be good" from me. Are you told him about Jack and me? If yes, what was his reaction, that more older boys ought to be discipline?
Good luck.

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Mary
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Date Posted: Monday, March 21, 2011, 01:39: pm

Hello Margaret,

"Mary, I meant, that your finger in his anus (if I understood you right) isn't useful for Jacob in his age. If you check him, when he is bent with spread cheeks, take paper and wipe his crack."

Sorry, but I think you understood me wrong. I still use paper to check Jacob's anus, but I wrap it around my finger.

"By the way, you may use your evening checking for Jacob's training. Give him wipes himself and you will have 2 results - evaluation of cleanliness and increaing his skills under your supervision."

The idea with the training was fine. I tried it and it worked! Thank you for that!

"Today Jacob will have enema. Tell him "be good" from me. Are you told him about Jack and me? If yes, what was his reaction, that more older boys ought to be discipline?"

I told him your wish. And I told him about Jack and you. He was very impressed, that an older boy is disciplined in this way.
Nonetheless I am sorry to say that he resisted again. I used your advice and let him stand 20 minutes naked in the corner to think about his choice. But the corner time maked him so angry that he didn't cooperate. He didn't choose anything and so I had to thrash him one's more. I begin to believe that he provokes to get spanked. He always has to feel his limits, also if it means that he gets the shit spanked out of him. Sorry for my wording.

Margaret, is this still normal for a boy?

In love,
Mary

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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 02:31: am

"Margaret, is this still normal for a boy?"

Mary, honestly, I don't know. When he will be calm, ask him why he prefers to get spanking before enema instead enema only?

"The idea with the training was fine. I tried it and it worked! Thank you for that" - my congratulation, I glad that could help you and Jacob.

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Mary
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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 10:21: am

"When he will be calm, ask him why he prefers to get spanking before enema instead enema only?"

I will try. Thank you very much for your help, Margaret!

In love,
Mary

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MARY TO MARGARET ((need help))
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Date Posted: Thursday, May 26, 2011, 08:02: am

Margaret,

I tried to contact you here again a week or so ago, but my post was deleted. I don't know if you answered.
I try it again now.

If you still read here, please answer!
I would really like to hear some more advice of you!

Mary

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Maria
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Date Posted: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 03:33: pm

In 70's many families believed in usefulness of regular enemas for kids. At least, a few my classmates got regular mother's enemas till middle school graduation. It wasn't secret, because mothers told among themselves about care and rearing in their families.

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Date Posted: Friday, March 25, 2011, 04:21: am

Hello Maria,

I STILL believe in the usefulness of regular enemas for kids. As a positive result, I see the eupepsia of my son.

Mary

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Date Posted: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 08:49: am

really???

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Mary
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Date Posted: Monday, March 21, 2011, 01:40: pm

Sorry, nyc, I don't understand.
What do you mean?

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Lois Campbell
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Date Posted: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 04:38: pm

Hi all,my boys also get enemas about 2 times a week.ages 8,10,15. all 3 have bladder prob as well,( bed and pants).
would like to here from others with the same prob.i also spank as well for wetting.

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Dr. Dan
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Date Posted: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 08:25: am

Lois,

In order for you to get the best replies, it would help if you would post your email address.

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Date Posted: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 09:49: am

Your post is senceless why would you spank the kid for having a bladder medical problem, A diaper would be a good idea for him not a spanking, There are also catheters to take care of that problem, Sounds like your post is a fake as no parent would do that to a kid for a medical problem.

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Date Posted: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 11:19: am

Listen, "to lois", you don't have any experiences with parents, did you? I have worked in a youth welfare office for years and you wouldn't believe how many parents punished their children for wetting. And there was not only used spanking but hanging the wet slip aroung the neck and other punishments!
Nonetheless, indeed this isn't a solution for the wetting problem. Parents should seek the help of a competent paediatrician.

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Date Posted: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 11:49: am

Well said dana you don,t spank or give a kid a enema for bladder problems that is a major medical problem that must be resolved by the family dr or a urolgist or a vist to the ER no parent would do what that poster said, IE ITS A FAKE POST.

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Date Posted: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 11:40: am

I have to believe somewhat of Lois is saying. Growing up my cousin (male) had a bedwetting problem. His mom (my aunt) would give him an enema everytime he wetted himself or the bed. He hated getting enemas and the reason why his mom gave them to him for wetting. He finally grew out of wetting at around 10 or 11, but till that time he had gotten many enemas.

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Margaret
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Date Posted: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 02:41: pm

Children NEVER have to be punished for bedwetting! It's age or medical problem only! It isn't reason for punishment!

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Date Posted: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 05:02: pm


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Switchablesusie
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Date Posted: Friday, February 25, 2011, 11:01: am

I agree. Either this mother is guilty of child abuse or is severely ignorant of child rearing, growth and development

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J S
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Date Posted: Monday, February 28, 2011, 10:02: pm

This thread has become long enough that it should be noted that the beaten horse is not just dead, but has died many times and is beyond the resurrection of the dead. Can we move on to something else? Thank you.

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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011, 03:44: am

As long as there are interested users who want to share opinions, what's the problem?

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Date Posted: Wednesday, March 02, 2011, 12:14: am

It seemed to me like there was a lot of repeats of the same topics regarding this subject. On one level it doesn't matter to me how long a topic gets as long as there is new content. But after a lot of the same material, my thought it that it is simply time to move on to something else. I have no particular problem with excesses except there comes a time to close debate on a subject after all has been said. Of course people are always free to keep posting. So Relax, lighten up, and enjoy a little humor.

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Mary
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Date Posted: Wednesday, March 02, 2011, 05:09: am

Oh, I relax and enjoy, no problem, but you, too! Feel free to post in another threads when the other topics are more interesting for you.

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Bobby
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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011, 12:49: pm

JS- you need a good enema!!!

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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011, 03:17: pm

JS Pull your pants down and lay over this stool you need a good bulb enema

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RE
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Date Posted: Friday, March 11, 2011, 10:17: am

All teenage boys at one time or other need enemas and mom should give them when needed.

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Date Posted: Friday, March 11, 2011, 04:50: pm

The same is true for teenage girls. Especially at period time.

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Date Posted: Friday, March 11, 2011, 08:24: pm

ESPECIALLY at period time, starting five days ahead of the anticipated period arrival, so that less anemia is experienced from the lost blood.

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Date Posted: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 12:34: am

Callie you have written you heard and read about mothers masturbate their sons to avoid erections. Where you got that information from. If you got them from internet please mention the address’s of those web sites.

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Date Posted: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 11:38: am

Lets post this post into a true prospetive,, If a teen boy or girl age 12 to 18 needs a enema for a problem then mom should give them one no matter how embarrising it is for them as its for thier own good and its even needed more today with all the junk foods teens eat today, So yes if they need a enema from mom they should get one and we all know its going to make them fell better too in the long run and will also make them a more health full person too, enough said....

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Date Posted: Friday, March 25, 2011, 11:50: am

Kyle is right on, but after a child is 13 or so, he or she should be able to give themselves an enema on an as needed basis.

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Date Posted: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 11:37: am

I started giving myself enemas at 8 years old, thanks to the nurses in the hospital I was admitted to. And I've enjoyed them ever since...

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Date Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 06:02: am

Matt, you said that after a certain age a person should be able to administer for themselves. You are correct about the "should" but the decision is really between the mother and the recipient, isn't it? The mother knows everyone in the family and is in a position to decide if and when the person may be left on his or her own for this procedure.
Not everyone is reliable and capable, even if they should be, so there is no general rule.

Then there is the question, "do they want to"? There are people who simply prefer to be administered to rather than administering to themselves. That's why, in some cases,
even if the person is judged capable, they nevertheless
prefer the assistance of someone else, usually the mother.

Even in adult life there are many tasks that we all prefer to have done by someone else. For example, I am perfectly capable of giving myself a pedicure, yet I pay someone else to do that. Similarly, there are men who prefer to go to a barber for a shave, but surely they can do it themselves.
There are many other things we "should" do for ourselves, but we find it more pleasant to have it done for us.

So, regardless of the age of the recipient, some of them
are administered to by someone else for a longer time than other people think they "should", but so what? That is up to the people within the family, not us from the outside.
Why should there be some arbitrary age rule about this?
Don't you agree?

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Date Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2012, 04:14: am

Notice the phrases "give a spanking" and "give an enema." They are a gift, a way of caring for someone. Boys want attention, but sometimes we don't recognize it. Ask any pediatrician--boys don't want kisses, they want a power exchange. Misbehaving is a wonderful way for a boy to get attention. When he's a teenager, he's too old for dad to kiss him, but it's OK for dad to spank him. It's OK for dad to give him an enema. These are ways of bonding, of communication. Teenage boys figure they can't ask for an enema, but they can get one by some hints. A teenager's fondest dream is that he can tell dad he needs regular spankings so he won't become a smoker, or telling dad he'd like an enema bag or a jar of suppositories for his birthday. But there are teenage boys with just such desires...

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Date Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2012, 01:27: pm

Yes Sean. Those kind of teenage boys exist. But we refer to them under their more popular label. Higher than a kite.

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Date Posted: Saturday, August 11, 2012, 10:14: pm

It's not difficult for a boy to wipe himself clean. We should look into the possibility that Jacob is streaking his underpants in the expectation he will get his but washed with a wet towel, and that he will subsequently get a spanking on the sensitized wet butt skin, followed by an enema. Probably it's time for an adult male to take over these sessions--Jacob will feel better if he has erections during the procedure of a man is doing this, and a man would understand Jason's needs. He's not really asking for punishment, he's asking for someone to give him manly experiences. I suspect that by now, Jacob will be using the soiled underpants--spanking--enema routine as a way of establishing a relationship with an older person, probably male (authority figure) with whom he can play bad boy getting rewarded with attention.

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