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Subject: Re: Enemas for Older Boys


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Margaret
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Date Posted: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 02:51: pm
In reply to: Mary 's message, "Re: Enemas for Older Boys" on Friday, February 25, 2011, 01:37: pm

Mary, hello.

"what do you want to know exactly about the procedure?"
-When do you give enema? Are you have specially scheduled time? What you tell your son, when want give him enema? How you spank him, if he refuses or resists? Which implement do you use - bulb or suringe? How you spread his cheeks for noddle insertion? How you lubricate his anus - superficially only or your finger goes inside? Are you use glove or work with bare finger? By the way, what is name of your son?

"Do you also send your son to do it in private when you see his erection?
Mary, usually, I ignore it, but, if Jack has full erection already, , when he is naked down waist before enema or spanking, I send him in bathroom and he returns after about 10 minuts without it. When he deserves spanking, in any case, after his 13, I put pillow over my knee and his erection, appearing sometimes, doesn't trouble me.

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Mary
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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011, 03:43: am

Hello, Margaret!

I will try to answer your questions as exactly as possible.

- When do you give enema? Are you have specially scheduled time?

I give it usually after diner, at Wednesday and Saturday.

- What you tell your son, when want give him enema?

I say something like: "Sweetie, you know, it's time for your enema now. Let's go." And if he doesn't obeys: "Come on, move your ass, or must I trash you again?"

- How you spank him, if he refuses or resists?

It's different. Depending on my temper and his nastiness, I use the hand (for his face or when I pull his ear, than only by hand, of course), a slipper, a hairbrush and a cane. The first three "tools" he gets over the knee, but face slappings on his cheeks, of course. For the cane he has to bend over a table.

- Which implement do you use - bulb or suringe?

I use the syringe.

- How you spread his cheeks for noddle insertion?

With my hand, what else? He is on all fours, he cannot do it.

- How you lubricate his anus - superficially only or your finger goes inside? Are you use glove or work with bare finger?

My finger goes inside. I don't use gloves.
Like you say by yourself, there is no spot at my son's body I don't haven't seen and touched a thousand times before.

- By the way, what is name of your son?

His name is Jacob.

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Margaret
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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011, 12:01: pm

Hi, Mary.
Thank you for answers. If my opinion is interesting for you, I think, you are doing everything right. However, perhaps, you ought to more speak with Jacob, because 13-year-old boys are stubborn enough ( I remember my Jack 2 years ago!). Without doubt, boy needs in discipline strict enough, but after conversations his resisting will decrease.
If you have additional questions, I'l answer with my pleasure.
Good luck! My kiss to Jacob.
Margaret

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Mary
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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011, 12:49: pm

Dear Margaret,

thank you very much for your kindness. I will follow your advices.

Would you please also answer a few of your questions by yourself? I would be glad.

-When do you give enema?
- Are you have specially scheduled time?
- What you tell your son, Jack, when want give him enema?
- Which implement do you use - bulb or suringe?
- How you spread his cheeks for noddle insertion?
- How you lubricate his anus - superficially only or your finger goes inside?
- Are you use glove or work with bare finger?

A few additional questions:

- Has your son cramps during enema?
- If yes, how does he react and what do you do or say?

Kisses,
Mary

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Margaret
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Date Posted: Sunday, March 06, 2011, 04:17: pm

Dear Mary, I'm sorry, I couldn't answer earlier. I understand, my answers are interesting for you, because my Jack is little older your Jacob.


"When do you give enema?
Are you have specially scheduled time?" -
I have no special time, because I dont't use regular enemas for Jack. He gets it, if he is constipated more than 2 days. Usually, on third day of constipation, he gets cleaning enema. I know him very well and can see when he is constipated - decreasing of appetites, stomack pain... He himself doesn't tell me about constipation, however, on my right questions answers honestly. On average, he has my cleaning enema 1-2 times monthly.

- "What you tell your son, Jack, when want give him enema?" - I tell "Jacky, your stomack needs help in cleanig. Let, will do it"

- "Which implement do you use - bulb or suringe?" -
Till his 12, when he got over my knee, I used bulb, but now I use bag enema with 2 qt warm soap water.

- "How you spread his cheeks for noddle insertion?" -
now, Jack gets on the left side with extend left leg and maximally bent right. When I spread his right cheek by my left hand, I have completelly open view on his anus and can insert enema's noddle without any problem.

-" How you lubricate his anus - superficially only or your finger goes inside?" - I lubricated his anus inside till his about 12, but now he is big enough and lubricating of noddle is enough for him.

- "Are you use glove or work with bare finger?" - No , he is my son, and I never used gloves for care. Even untill his 12, I lubricated his anus (after previous wiping by wet towell) by my index finger only

- "Has your son cramps during enema?" - it happens sometimes, if rate of water from bag is too fast.


-"If yes, how does he react and what do you do or say?"
If Jack complains on craping pain or moanes, I'm doing break on a few minutes, massaging his belly by round movements of my hand, and then continue water with more little rate.

Mary, I hope, I answered on your questions, but, If you will have additional, I'l answer with pleasure.
However, I have a few questions for you?

1. How long Jack ought to hold water before expelling?
2. How he expell for your control - on the tube or special potty?
3. You give him regular evening enemas on Wednesday and Saturday. However, what you do, if someone, except you, present in your home in this days - guests, relativs, or his friends sleepover, - what you do? Is enema cancell or you do it inother day?
4. In general, know his friends that he has regular enema or it's family secret?
5.If know, could anyone see it, and if yes, till which age?

My kisses to you and Jacob.

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Mary
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Date Posted: Monday, March 07, 2011, 07:03: pm

Hi, Margaret,
I'm glad to be able to answer your questions.

1. How long Jack ought to hold water before expelling?

I think you mean Jacob? He has to hold half an hour.

2. How he expell for your control - on the tube or special potty?

Into the bathtub.

3. You give him regular evening enemas on Wednesday and Saturday. However, what you do, if someone, except you, present in your home in this days - guests, relativs, or his friends sleepover, - what you do? Is enema cancell or you do it inother day?

No, there's no cause to cancel or do it another day.
They have to wait until I'm ready with Jacob.
It's my opinion that his hygiene is more important.

4. In general, know his friends that he has regular enema or it's family secret?

Why should it be a secret? I see absolutely no cause!

5.If know, could anyone see it, and if yes, till which age?

No, it's a thing between him and me.

In love,
Mary

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Margaret
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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 08, 2011, 02:28: pm

"I think you mean Jacob? He has to hold half an hour."
Mary, yes, of course, it was my mistake. I asked about Jacob, indeed. Can he hold water half an hour without accident? Which position he has during this time? I ask Jack hold water 15 minutes only and, sometimes, he uses big potty, when can't hold water suddenly.

"No, it's a thing between him and me."
Mary, I think, you are right here completely. It's between mother and child only. You know, Jack is spanked by me still, when he deserves punishment, and, sometimes, I don't hesistate to spank him in front my friends. However, enema is process, which requests intimaty, and after Jack's about 8, nobody saw it.

My kisses you and Jacob,
Margaret

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Mary
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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 08, 2011, 04:09: pm

Hi, Margaret,

"Can he hold water half an hour without accident? Which position he has during this time?"

He has to stay on all fours in the bathtub during this time. In the beginning, he didn't manage it to hold the water all the time, but it is fantastic how spankings help a young brat to learn, isn't it? Don't you agree?

"sometimes, I don't hesistate to spank him in front my friends. However, enema is process, which requests intimaty, and after Jack's about 8, nobody saw it."

I totally agree with you, Margaret. I also spank Jacob in front of others, but in the helpless enema position no one should see him out of his mother.

With Love,
Mary

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Date Posted: Wednesday, March 09, 2011, 07:59: pm

Mary, hi.
I see, we have almost the same opinions about mother's care and rearing of our boys.
Mary, according to you schedule, today, Wednesday, is day for Jacob's enema. How was it today? Did he resisted still or your conversation with him had positive result?
May I ask a few additional questions?

1. How old was Jacob, when you started regular enemas twice weekly?
2. Which age had Jacob, when appeared his embarrassment to be naked in front you?
3. Which age had Jacob, when he started to embarrass get spanking in front anyone?
4. Who were and are witnesses of his spankings?
5. Are witnesses were invited specially or it was accidentally?
6. How old was Jacob, when he could wipe his bottom himself clean enough (after usual poop, because, as I understood right, after enema you wipe him yoursef till now, really?)
7. How your checked his wiping after poop, and when you stopped do it?
8. How often do you spank Jacob now and how many smacks he gets?
9. Which are reason for spankings?
10. What you do, if during spanking, can see that Jacob's crack isn't clean enough? Alas, even my almost 16-year-old Jack gives me such surprises sometimes.
11. When started Jacob's puberty and which firsts signs could you see then?
12. What changes in his behavior appeared then?
13. Did Jacob resist enema always or was age, when appeared resisting?


Mary, how many questions, really? However, it's interesting for me and, perhaps, for you, because we can comparate development Jacob and Jack, indeed. If you have any questions, I'l try answer with my pleasure.

I wish you lucky in today Jacob's enema. Tell him "be good" from me and my kiss him.

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Date Posted: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 07:24: am


Margaret , hi
I know from other post that you check your son cleanliness before bed in diaper position ( thay is, on his back bent legs ) why do you stop it?

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Margaret
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Date Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 12:35: pm

Lora, of course, this position is the best for evaluation of cleanliness. However, now, Jack is big enough for regular checking his bottom, as I did earlier. Nevertheless, if he has much skid-marks on his underpants (boys are boys!), I check him sometimes, despite his protests. Yes, I use diaper position, when he is in bed. If his bottom isn't clean enough, he ought to go in bathroom and wipe himself under my supervision. By the way, sometimes, I can assess his cleanliness, when see his crack during spanking because he gets 1-2 times monthly still. Boys are boys!

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Mary to Margaret
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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 02:11: pm

Hello, Margaret,

I am very sorry for answering not earlier but I was very busy during the last days. Please accept my apologies, will you?

You asked "Today, Wednesday, is day for Jacob's enema. How was it today? Did he resisted still or your conversation with him had positive result?"

Yes, I've told to him kindly but he is still unwilling and disobedient and so he also was at Saturday. I'm afraid I have to continue his punishments. Do you have an advice for a more effective punishment?

You asked "May I ask a few additional questions?"

Of course, dear Margaret.

1. How old was Jacob, when you started regular enemas twice weekly?

He was 10.

2. Which age had Jacob, when appeared his embarrassment to be naked in front you?

In the same year.

3. Which age had Jacob, when he started to embarrass get spanking in front anyone?

In the same year. He was especially embarrassed because of his erections.

4. Who were and are witnesses of his spankings?

Our neighbour (a 60 y. o. woman), Jacob’s friends, his aunt and his cousins.

5. Are witnesses were invited specially or it was accidentally?

It was only accidentally. Why should I invite someone to this?

6 + 7. How old was Jacob, when he could wipe his bottom himself clean enough (after usual poop, because, as I understood right, after enema you wipe him yoursef till now, really?)
How your checked his wiping after poop, and when you stopped do it?

Margaret, in truth, he isn't old enough until today. I have always to check and to wipe after still once a day, at evening.

8. How often do you spank Jacob now and how many smacks he gets?

He usually gets between 30 and 50 smacks with the hand and between 10 and 25 with other "tools".

9. Which are reason for spankings?

You have a big boy and still spank him, Margaret, you surely know all the possible reasons!
But I think, I already mentioned that he get spankings for resisting his enemas and that he got it for having an erection and catching him masturbating.

10. What you do, if during spanking, can see that Jacob's crack isn't clean enough? Alas, even my almost 16-year-old Jack gives me such surprises sometimes.

Oh yes, I know that. I wipe after when the punishment is over, what else?

11. When started Jacob's puberty and which firsts signs could you see then?

I think he his still in the beginning. His pubic hair and his privates starts to grow.

12. What changes in his behavior appeared then?

He isn't as amenable as before. He is more stubborn than ever before.

13. Did Jacob resist enema always or was age, when appeared resisting?

In the last year, he started to try resisting it always.

I hope you are content with my answers.
Please answer your own questions for me, okay?

In love,
Mary

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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 03:04: pm

Sorry, Margaret, I made a mistake at point 1.
Jacob was 11, nearly 12.

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Date Posted: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 12:14: pm

Hi, Mary,
I offer you some my comments and answrs on your (and my own!) questions.

"Yes, I've told to him kindly but he is still unwilling and disobedient and so he also was at Saturday. I'm afraid I have to continue his punishments. Do you have an advice for a more effective punishment?" -
- Mary, I understand, it's big problem for you, because it's repeats twice in week. Any case, you make decision for your 13-year-old Jacob and he has no to be out of discipline. If you decide that he needs in regular enemas, it must be so. However, continue to speak with him about it. For example, speak with him one day, where no scheduled enema. Explain him, that enema will be done in any case and it's undisputable, but he has own choice to get spanking before enema or get enema without previous spanking. In enema day take off his clothes and give him 15-20 min for thoughts - spanking and then enema or enema now. Offer him any bonus - may be, if it's important for him, promise to change position for enema. If your attempts will be unsuccessfully, and you want to use "more effective punishment", I may recomend before spanking to wipe his bottom (cheeks and crack) by wet towell. You will get 2 results - clean bottom for spanking and, moreover, wet cheeks are more sensitive and spanking will be more effective. However, for beginning, speak with him!

"Please answer your own questions for me, okay?" -
Mary, of course, with my pleasure, as comment on your answers. It will be comparison our opinions and development of our boys, really?


1. How old was Jacob, when you started regular enemas twice weekly?
He was 10. - I don't use regular enemas for Jack, and he gets it if has constipation, on average 1-2 times monthly.

2. Which age had Jacob, when appeared his embarrassment to be naked in front you?
In the same year. - He was about 12

3. Which age had Jacob, when he started to embarrass get spanking in front anyone?
In the same year. He was especially embarrassed because of his erections. - I know, he didn't like it after 10-11, but especially after 13.

4. Who were and are witnesses of his spankings?
Our neighbour (a 60 y. o. woman), Jacob’s friends, his aunt and his cousins. - The most often my friend and her son, who is 14 now. Her daughter sometimes watched Jack's punishments too, but till his 12 only. They are our nextdoor neighbors.

5. Are witnesses were invited specially or it was accidentally?
It was only accidentally. Why should I invite someone to this? - Yes, sometimes, if Jack is very guilty, I specially invited them for watching. Mike was spanked in front Jack and me many times too.

6 + 7. How old was Jacob, when he could wipe his bottom himself clean enough (after usual poop, because, as I understood right, after enema you wipe him yoursef till now, really?)
How your checked his wiping after poop, and when you stopped do it?
-Margaret, in truth, he isn't old enough until today. I have always to check and to wipe after still once a day, at evening.-
- Mary, I understand you completely. Jack could wipe himself since 7, but he neglected sometimes. I checked him constantly till about 10, episodically till 12. Later everything was OK, but I was amazed, when appeared promblems with his cleanliness after 14 and even now still! A few my friends, who have more older boys than Jack, tells it's happens with teen-boys, who consider themselves big enough for following hygiene rules. They are "macho"! Boys are boys, but we are mothers and have to teach and check them.

8. How often do you spank Jacob now and how many smacks he gets?
He usually gets between 30 and 50 smacks with the hand and between 10 and 25 with other "tools". - 20-30 smacks with hairbrush depend on transgressions. I have 3 grade color of bottom for different grade of punishment - light (bottom is pink after spanking), medium (bright-red) and heavy (dark-red).

9. Which are reason for spankings?
You have a big boy and still spank him, Margaret, you surely know all the possible reasons!
But I think, I already mentioned that he get spankings for resisting his enemas and that he got it for having an erection and catching him masturbating. -
- MARY, I'm sorry, but you make big MISTAKE. You have no to spank Jacob for erections and masturbations!!! Erection is uncontroled process and boy can't hold it, if it appears! Masturbation is normal and natural process in boys development! If you don't believe me, ask your doctor!
If you want ask me about it more, I'l answer more detail, because it's important for Jacob.

10. What you do, if during spanking, can see that Jacob's crack isn't clean enough? Alas, even my almost 16-year-old Jack gives me such surprises sometimes.
Oh yes, I know that. I wipe after when the punishment is over, what else? - I wipe Jack BEFORE spanking in this case. He hates this procedure, especially, if Nancy and /or Mike can see it.

11. When started Jacob's puberty and which firsts signs could you see then?
I think he his still in the beginning. His pubic hair and his privates starts to grow. _Jack is matured almost completely now. When he was 12, during a spanking I have seen little hairs in low part of his crack, then their appeared around penis. It was his first signs.

12. What changes in his behavior appeared then?

He isn't as amenable as before. He is more stubborn than ever before. - My Jack too


Mary, I have 3 questions for you:
1. Why you started regular enemas, when Jacob was 10 already?
2.How you do evening checking of Jacob's cleanliness?
3.Which is Jacob's night clothes?

Hug you and kiss Jacob,
Mary
P.S. Jack send regard to Jacob

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Date Posted: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 02:32: pm

Hello Margaret,

many thanks for your answers and advices.

"However, continue to speak with him about it. For example, speak with him one day, where no scheduled enema. Explain him, that enema will be done in any case and it's undisputable, but he has own choice to get spanking before enema or get enema without previous spanking. In enema day take off his clothes and give him 15-20 min for thoughts - spanking and then enema or enema now. Offer him any bonus - may be, if it's important for him, promise to change position for enema."

Yes, I will do that. But you said "In enema day take off his clothes and give him 15-20 min for thoughts" What shall he do during this time? Stand in the corner, for example? Or getting away his erection?

"If your attempts will be unsuccessfully, and you want to use "more effective punishment", I may recomend before spanking to wipe his bottom (cheeks and crack) by wet towell. You will get 2 results - clean bottom for spanking and, moreover, wet cheeks are more sensitive and spanking will be more effective."

That is a very good idea, thank you for that.
Did you make yourself experiences with the higher sensitivity of wet cheeks for spanking?

"Her daughter sometimes watched Jack's punishments too, but till his 12 only. They are our nextdoor neighbors."

You really let a girl next door watch your son's spankings? How old was she? How was it for Jack?

"I specially invited them for watching. Mike was spanked in front Jack and me many times too."

Can you explain how that meetings took place?
Was it only in the past or do these meetings still take place?

"Boys are boys, but we are mothers and have to teach and check them."

Yeah, I totally agree to you, Margaret!

"I have 3 grade color of bottom for different grade of punishment - light (bottom is pink after spanking), medium (bright-red) and heavy (dark-red)."

Ho do you exactly get these different grades, when you give him 20 - 30 smacks each time?

"If you want ask me about it more, I'l answer more detail, because it's important for Jacob."

Yes, Margaret, please answer more detailed.
Why do you know so much about that? What are your experiences with Jack?

"1. Why you started regular enemas, when Jacob was 10 already?"

No, as I corrected myself, he was 11, nearly 12.
He started to have constipation very often, and the doctor adviced to use regular enemas.

"2.How you do evening checking of Jacob's cleanliness?"

He has to remove his trousers and pants, then to bend over and to spread his cheeks with his hands. I cover my forefinger with toilet paper and insert it into his anus. If I find marks, he gets a few smacks and I wipe after with a wet cloth.

"3.Which is Jacob's night clothes?"
He sleeps naked, sometimes in a shortie. We live in a warm region.

Thank you for your attention and help, Margaret.
Please answer my questions.

In love,
Mary

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Date Posted: Friday, March 18, 2011, 01:28: pm

Hello, Mary,
with my pleasure, I'l give you some explanations about my previous answers on your questions.



"In enema day take off his clothes and give him 15-20 min for thoughts" What shall he do during this time? Stand in the corner, for example? Or getting away his erection?" - it's time, when he is preparated already for enema or, according to your rules for before-enema spanking, if he is resisting. Offer him his own choice - enema now or enema after spanking. I think, for 15-20 min he will du right choice.

"If your attempts will be unsuccessfully, and you want to use "more effective punishment", I may recomend before spanking to wipe his bottom (cheeks and crack) by wet towell. You will get 2 results - clean bottom for spanking and, moreover, wet cheeks are more sensitive and spanking will be more effective."
That is a very good idea, thank you for that.
Did you make yourself experiences with the higher sensitivity of wet cheeks for spanking? - Yes, Mary, sometimes, when I see that his bottom isn't clean enough (it's seen easy, when he is bend over my knee before beginning of spanking), I wipe his by wet towell and, then, begin to spank you. In this cases, he cries and squirmes more than usually. He himself told me that spanking after "bathing ass" is more painfull. Moreover, he hates, if I wet his bottom in front spanking, especially, in anyone presence. By the way, last time I wiped him so before spanking about 3 months ago in Nancy's presence. She knows Jack sinc his baby-age, has own sone Mike , and view of wiping Jack's bottom, before getting spanking, couldn't schoked her. Although, Jack was embarrassed, but he had to know, if he violates hygiene rules, mom will check and do it.

"Her daughter sometimes watched Jack's punishments too, but till his 12 only. They are our nextdoor neighbors."
You really let a girl next door watch your son's spankings? How old was she? How was it for Jack? -
- Mary, Nancy's daughter, Jessica is 5 years older Jack, and 7 years older her own brother Mike. Numerous times she babysat both boys, when they were little. When Jack was younger, I never hesistated to spank him in Jessica's presence, but after his 10-11 he was embarrassed that she could saw it. No big deal. Some embarrassment is part of punishment for boys. Nevertheless, when appeared Jack's first signs of puberty, I stopped to spank him in front Jessica, although, he gets in front Nancy and Mike sometimes still.

"I specially invited them for watching. Mike was spanked in front Jack and me many times too."
Can you explain how that meetings took place?
Was it only in the past or do these meetings still take place? - We are living in home, where we have the 1st floor, but Nancy with family, the second. Any case, if any from kids is punished, other can heard it. Traditionally for both our families, if child did something unusually bad or very forbidden, culprit gets in front both families. Jessica got the same (but very rarely, indeed) till her about 12. Boys get so still. Last time, Jack was spanked by me in front Nancy and Mike about 3 months ago. He returned at home after party drunken, but it's absolutelly forbidden for him. On next day, when he awaken, I invited Nancy and Mike down, in our living room.
Jack was lectured by me and Nancy, then he had to take off everything down waist, what he did very reluctantly. I bent him over my knee for spanking and have seen that his behind was dirty enough! I asked Nancy to bring me wet towell, thoroughly wiped his hairy behind and he got strong spanking. He cried and squirmed as little boy, and when I stopped to spank him, he really bawled. However, I think for drinking in his age he deserves such punishment. Nancy told for Mike it was very usefull lesson too.

"Boys are boys, but we are mothers and have to teach and check them."
Yeah, I totally agree to you, Margaret! - Mary, despite their age and maturation, Jack and, especially, your Jacob are boys only with their stubborness and foolish acts. We are responsible in front God and society for their raising.

"I have 3 grade color of bottom for different grade of punishment - light (bottom is pink after spanking), medium (bright-red) and heavy (dark-red)."
Ho do you exactly get these different grades, when you give him 20 - 30 smacks each time? - if honestly, sometimes he gets less than 20, but good 30 give him sore enough dark-red bottom.

"If you want ask me about it more, I'l answer more detail, because it's important for Jacob." - Mary, what is interesting for you? With my pleasure, I'l ask on concrete questions, if will be able do it.

Why do you know so much about that? What are your experiences with Jack? - Mary, I read books for parents, spoke with our pediatrician (he is very nice gentleman, 65+, but he continue to work), spoke with women in our church, who have sons more older than Jack.

"1. Why you started regular enemas, when Jacob was 10 already?"

No, as I corrected myself, he was 11, nearly 12.
He started to have constipation very often, and the doctor adviced to use regular enemas. - Clearly.

"2.How you do evening checking of Jacob's cleanliness?"

He has to remove his trousers and pants, then to bend over and to spread his cheeks with his hands. I cover my forefinger with toilet paper and insert it into his anus. If I find marks, he gets a few smacks and I wipe after with a wet cloth. - Mary, may be checking his crack without daily finger's insertion in anus will be enough?

"3.Which is Jacob's night clothes?"
He sleeps naked, sometimes in a shortie. We live in a warm region. - Jack wore PJ till 13, now he preffers boxers.


Mary, I'l wait your answers.
My kisses you and Jacob,
Margaret

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Date Posted: Friday, March 18, 2011, 02:59: pm

Hello Margaret,
thank you very much for your answers.

"it's time, when he is preparated already for enema or, according to your rules for before-enema spanking, if he is resisting. Offer him his own choice - enema now or enema after spanking. I think, for 15-20 min he will du right choice."

Yes, Margaret, i will do that and tell you about.

"We are responsible in front God and society for their raising."

True words, Margaret, really! Well spoken!

"Mary, may be checking his crack without daily finger's insertion in anus will be enough?"

What do you mean, Margaret? I wipe after each time and I give him a shower after each of the two weekly enemas. What else can I do? Ho do you check Jack?

Mary, I am very thankfull for your experience and advice. You must know about Jacob and me, that I was 15 as I got Jacob. I am 28 now, I have no complete graduation and no education because I mostly had to care for my son. Some people call me naive or even dumb. Perhaps they are right. But what I know I learned by myself. While Jacob is in school, I'm working fulltime as a waitress to earn money for my son and me. The little time I can spend with my son I have to raise him with love, but very strictly. I don't want him to become a gangster, you know.
I am very thankfull for every advice you can give me. Do you think we could e-mail each other?

In love,
Mary

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Date Posted: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 02:39: am

Mary, I'l answer shortly now about one your question. It was this our dialogue:

"Mary, may be checking his crack without daily finger's insertion in anus will be enough?"
What do you mean, Margaret? I wipe after each time and I give him a shower after each of the two weekly enemas. What else can I do? Ho do you check Jack?"

Mary, I meant, that your finger in his anus (if I understood you right) isn't useful for Jacob in his age. If you check him, when he is bent with spread cheeks, take paper and wipe his crack. It would be enough for evaluation of cleanliness, really? By the way, you may use your evening checking for Jacob's training. Give him wipes himself and you will have 2 results - evaluation of cleanliness and increaing his skills under your supervision. Are you agree?
Mary, I understand, you are very loving mom. About "very strictly" - boys need in discipline.
Today Jacob will have enema. Tell him "be good" from me. Are you told him about Jack and me? If yes, what was his reaction, that more older boys ought to be discipline?
Good luck.

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Date Posted: Monday, March 21, 2011, 01:39: pm

Hello Margaret,

"Mary, I meant, that your finger in his anus (if I understood you right) isn't useful for Jacob in his age. If you check him, when he is bent with spread cheeks, take paper and wipe his crack."

Sorry, but I think you understood me wrong. I still use paper to check Jacob's anus, but I wrap it around my finger.

"By the way, you may use your evening checking for Jacob's training. Give him wipes himself and you will have 2 results - evaluation of cleanliness and increaing his skills under your supervision."

The idea with the training was fine. I tried it and it worked! Thank you for that!

"Today Jacob will have enema. Tell him "be good" from me. Are you told him about Jack and me? If yes, what was his reaction, that more older boys ought to be discipline?"

I told him your wish. And I told him about Jack and you. He was very impressed, that an older boy is disciplined in this way.
Nonetheless I am sorry to say that he resisted again. I used your advice and let him stand 20 minutes naked in the corner to think about his choice. But the corner time maked him so angry that he didn't cooperate. He didn't choose anything and so I had to thrash him one's more. I begin to believe that he provokes to get spanked. He always has to feel his limits, also if it means that he gets the shit spanked out of him. Sorry for my wording.

Margaret, is this still normal for a boy?

In love,
Mary

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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 02:31: am

"Margaret, is this still normal for a boy?"

Mary, honestly, I don't know. When he will be calm, ask him why he prefers to get spanking before enema instead enema only?

"The idea with the training was fine. I tried it and it worked! Thank you for that" - my congratulation, I glad that could help you and Jacob.

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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 10:21: am

"When he will be calm, ask him why he prefers to get spanking before enema instead enema only?"

I will try. Thank you very much for your help, Margaret!

In love,
Mary

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Date Posted: Thursday, May 26, 2011, 08:02: am

Margaret,

I tried to contact you here again a week or so ago, but my post was deleted. I don't know if you answered.
I try it again now.

If you still read here, please answer!
I would really like to hear some more advice of you!

Mary

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Date Posted: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 03:33: pm

In 70's many families believed in usefulness of regular enemas for kids. At least, a few my classmates got regular mother's enemas till middle school graduation. It wasn't secret, because mothers told among themselves about care and rearing in their families.

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Date Posted: Friday, March 25, 2011, 04:21: am

Hello Maria,

I STILL believe in the usefulness of regular enemas for kids. As a positive result, I see the eupepsia of my son.

Mary

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Date Posted: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 08:49: am

really???

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Mary
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Date Posted: Monday, March 21, 2011, 01:40: pm

Sorry, nyc, I don't understand.
What do you mean?

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