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Subject: Islamic Religious Ancestry


Author:
Kevlar Kid
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Date Posted: 11:20:50 03/26/02 Tue

Hey all, here are some interesting links that will make you think twice. Excerpts first...

[QUOTE]Historical Source of Islam

Historians, linguists, and archeologists have dug into this question for over a century. Various archeological digs in Arabia and throughout the Middle East have uncovered the answer: Islam is a modern version of the ancient fertility religion of the moon god. Once this is grasped, the rise and history of Islam becomes clear.

The Arab conquests were made possible because the central powers in the Middle East had exhausted themselves in wars against each other. They were not able to fight off wave after wave of Arab armies which subdued entire nations with merciless slaughter, rape and plunder.

Conquering Armies

The Arabs destroyed some of the wonders of the ancient world such as the world famous library in Alexandria, Egypt. They destroyed many ancient churches and synagogues. Anthropologists have recorded how the Arabs destroyed the cultural heritage of any nation which fell under their sword.

Who were these Arabs? They obviously were not Christians because they destroyed churches and murdered priests wherever they went. Obviously, they were not Jews because they persecuted Jews without pity. This is seen today in their hatred of Israel and the many wars and acts of terrorism waged against Jews throughout the world.

If the Arab hordes which swept over the ancient world were not Christians or Jews, then what were they? They were pagans who worshipped a pagan god called Allah and followed pagan rites
which were practised in Arabia long before the religion of Islam evolved.[/QUOTE]

Now, more info:

[QUOTE]The most startling coincidence to me, of ancient Sumerian god names concurrently inscribed in the same epigraphs with much more recent god names, is in an inscription in stone from Al-Ula in Northern Arabia, circa 500 BC, just 1000 years before Muhammed. In the same Semitic language dialect, and in the same time frame, are two other names of the gods- Mar-Allah, meaning Lord-god, and Adar'IL, a Sardonic contraction using the root form of the name for god from Sumer, LIL.

This shows that the basic IL or LIL root form survived for 2500 years, appearing in both names in ancient and recent forms! In Jawf, in the same area and time frame, the feminine form for Allah is found commonly as in Ham'illat (ILAT is the goddess). Also, in inscriptions near oases, Allah and Allat (sometimes ILAT) appear with no descriptive attachments, either in appeals for help in travel, or as part of the signature of the suppliant (like Abdallah-- IL root in name!). What does this mean? This means that IL and Allah shared the reverence of the ancient Sumerians, circa 3000 BC, and the northern Arab tribes in 500 BC. Survival time-- 2500 years. (FOOTNOTE 56: 172 / 79,126-127 / 245,253b Winnett has done some of the best and most recent work in inscription interpretation.)

This is not a pretty sight to the Muslim reader because it clearly shows that Allah descended from the original pagan god, Enlil, after the tower of Babel. The reason we can be sure of the connection between Babel (or Sumer) and Mecca is that Enlil, whose LIL root name would not go away, survived for 2500 years to be included in Northern Arabia in the Kaaba.

Muhammed cleansed the Kaaba of 360 pagan idols and gods, but he retained the resident god of choice, Al-ILAH, or Allah. If he was extending the heritage of EL or Elohim into the world, as he claimed he was, then why didn't Muhammed use one of the clearly biblical names extant in the Bible AND right there in Arabia? In fact, Allah and Elohim are mutually exclusive, so Allah is a pagan counterfeit.

The other part of this picture, which must cause the Muslim reader to tremble, is this: Allah had a wife. Her name was Allat, and she survived right up to the day of Muhammed, for she was the goddess of choice in Taif and one of Muhammed's "swans" of the "Satanic verses" in Al-Koran, Sura 53, but more on that later. [/QUOTE]

http://www.balaams-ass.com/alhaj/page13.htm

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[> Subject: Islam a Pagan Religion?


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Kevlar Kid
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Date Posted: 12:50:37 03/26/02 Tue

Camphausen, in his article [6], reveals that the misogynic moslem religion has its origins in goddess worship. Allah is a revamped version of the ancient goddess Al'Lat, and it was her shrine which has continued - little changed - as the Ka'bah. The known history of Mohammed reveals that he was born around 570 CE into a tribe of the Quraysh, who not only worshipped the goddess Q're but were the sworn guardians of her shrine. By 622 Mohammed was preaching the ways of his god, Allah, and was driven out by his own tribe as a result.


The triple goddess
Pre-islamic worship of the goddess seems to be primarily associated with Al'Lat, which simply means 'goddess'. She is a triple goddess, similar to the Greek lunar deity Kore/Demeter/Hecate. Each aspect of this trinity corresponds to a phase of the moon. In the same way Al'Lat has three names known to the initiate: Q're, the crescent moon or the maiden; Al'Uzza, literally 'the strong one' who is the full moon and the mother aspect; then Al'Menat, the waning but wise goddess of fate, prophecy and divination. Islamic tradition continue to recognise these three but labels them 'daughters of Allah'.