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Subject: Shooting BP guns under water

Author:
DJ (GBU)
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Date Posted: 14:54:25 02/09/10 Tue

GLOCK is bragging out that they(any models) can be shot frozen, muddy even underwater.
I've seen Ugly in the movie Good, Bad & Ugly shoots a bounty hunter from underwater while he was taking a bath.
Is it really possible in reality ?

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Re: Shooting BP guns under water -- Fuzzy, 13:35:32 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Shooting BP guns under water -- David Joo (Good, bad and ugly), 13:53:20 02/09/10 Tue
Re: Shooting BP guns under water -- Fuzzy, 14:01:50 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Shooting BP guns under water -- DJ (GBU), 14:20:00 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Shooting BP guns under water -- Fuzzy, 14:50:23 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Shooting BP guns under water -- Smokin_Gun, 14:54:25 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Shooting BP guns under water -- Ron (Canadian Cowboy), 14:51:47 02/09/10 Tue

Subject: paper bangn poped a few caps

Author:
gerry
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Date Posted: 17:47:56 02/09/10 Tue

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Re: paper bangn poped a few caps -- Fuzzy, 13:24:31 02/09/10 Tue
Re: paper bangn poped a few caps -- Smokin_Gun, 15:09:58 02/09/10 Tue
Re: paper bangn poped a few caps -- Thumper, 17:47:56 02/09/10 Tue

Subject: Nicest Remington NMA I've seen

Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 19:23:04 02/09/10 Tue

http://www.ocyoung.com/Remingtons.htm

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Re: Nicest Remington NMA I've seen -- Smokin_Gun, 08:24:13 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Nicest Remington NMA I've seen -- fuzzy, 10:44:03 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Nicest Remington NMA I've seen -- Smokin_Gun, 15:09:07 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Nicest Remington NMA I've seen -- Fuzzy, 16:09:35 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Nicest Remington NMA I've seen -- murph, 19:17:23 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Nicest Remington NMA I've seen -- Fuzzy, 19:23:04 02/09/10 Tue

Subject: Q? about 38-55 WCF bullets

Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 16:11:09 02/09/10 Tue

Lookin' thru the Midway cat. that I pulled out of the box today. Saw 38-55 WCF diameter .378" or .380' 260gr bullets.($36.99 per 100)
But I'm thinkin' these are for a .378" or so I.D. shell and not heeled to .358" dia.
Any thoughts on mold, bullets, or H.B. Wadcutters?(samesame)

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Re: Q? about 38-55 WCF bullets -- Smokin_Gun, 00:29:34 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Q? about 38-55 WCF bullets -- Fuzzy, 13:44:37 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Q? about 38-55 WCF bullets -- Smokin_Gun, 15:14:00 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Q? about 38-55 WCF bullets -- Fuzzy, 16:11:09 02/09/10 Tue

Subject: Would you buy it?

Author:
opentop
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Date Posted: 15:27:29 02/09/10 Tue

If one of the gun companys made a modern style blackpowder revolver. Something like a Smith & Wesson model 629 .44mag with a swingout cylinder. But insted of using the precussion cap it used the 209 primer. It wouldn't qualify for SASS but it would be legal for hunting. Would you buy it?

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Re: Would you buy it? -- Dave, 16:00:54 02/08/10 Mon
Re: Would you buy it? -- KAT, 16:11:46 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Would you buy it? -- Karl Childers, 16:24:49 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Would you buy it? -- Andy Baker, 18:06:59 02/08/10 Mon
Re: Would you buy it? -- Smokin_Gun, 19:35:25 02/08/10 Mon
Nope, I Won't Even Buy a ROA.....Too Modern Lookin'!! (NT) -- Thumper, 19:43:11 02/08/10 Mon

The reason for question. -- opentop, 08:15:54 02/09/10 Tue

You all are too new for me.............. -- Uncle Lee, 05:17:07 02/09/10 Tue

Re: You all are too new for me.............. -- Fuzzy, 06:21:41 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Would you buy it? -- cork, 10:08:03 02/09/10 Tue

Re:Pimers at Thiesns Farm Store -- opentop, 11:28:38 02/09/10 Tue

Re:Pimers at Thiesns Farm Store -- Smokin_Gun, 15:27:29 02/09/10 Tue

Subject: Weekend BP Shoot

Author:
Thumper
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Date Posted: 15:34:21 02/09/10 Tue

We had our monthly muzzleloader shoot this Saturday, good weather and 16 shooters. Ever shoot better than you can really shoot? That was me this time out. The ground was too snotty to walk the trail safely so we did 20-35yd small targets. All my shootiong was done w/ my 50cal T/C Renegade a patched ball and 65g fff. This was my 1st shot, the "tie-breaker", closest to the center wins incase of a tie for points.
http://www.fmtc.com/~tfl1x/TieBreaker.jpg
Next came the split the playing card shot.
http://www.fmtc.com/~tfl1x/SplitCard.jpg
From there we went to a carnival type pairs shot. There was a faux wall much like a "kissing booth" at a carnival, with a large bottom board, a 2.5ft space, then a top board which was the shot boundry. The 1st shooter has to break a string on the bottom board which then releases a helium filled ballon that has to be shot in the opening above. The bitch is that there are a series of nails in the back of the board, and the strings are wound around so that the balloon doen't come up directly over the shot thru string!!! My partner, a dimunitive young lass, calls herself "Acorn", but I think it should be Annie Oakley, parted the string and I nailed the balloon as it rose like a pro! I had to ask if I got it or not cause there was no breeze, and the smoke hung like a fog. Then we went on to shooting lollipops and toothpicks. Even though I had the best shooting score of the day, I ended up in 4th place cause out of 22 hawk and knife throws, I only got seven....gotta practice!! What a great day, drank beer and roasted wenies around the fire afterwards and finished by helping push some of the 2 wheel drive vehicles out of the mud. And that was my "Super" bowl weekend. Hope you guys enjoyed yours.

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Re: Weekend BP Shoot -- Fuzzy, 10:31:05 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Weekend BP Shoot -- Thumper, 11:00:55 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Weekend BP Shoot -- Smokin_Gun, 11:30:45 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Weekend BP Shoot -- Fuzzy, 11:50:11 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Weekend BP Shoot -- Peckerhead, 16:17:01 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Weekend BP Shoot -- Karl Childers, 16:27:58 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Weekend BP Shoot -- Smokin_Gun, 15:34:21 02/09/10 Tue

Now THAT sounds like a good time!!!! (NT) -- Uncle lee, 05:20:17 02/09/10 Tue

Subject: Neat Old Remington Pocket Guns

Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 08:38:08 02/08/10 Mon

http://www.remingtonsociety.com/rsa/journals/PasteboardBoxes

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Re: Neat Old Remington Revolving Rifles -- Fuzzy, 08:38:08 02/08/10 Mon

Subject: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model

Author:
The Devil
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Date Posted: 15:56:01 02/09/10 Tue

Yes Sir Buddy. This gun will give that Pietta of yours some compition.Conversion of the 1860 Colt Army..... Richards type conversion to 38 Special.
No wad cutters for this baby. No short chambers neither. No black Powder or equivelent Cowboy Type only loads. True unabashed 38 Special chambers AND BORE. Chew on that one fer awhile Buddy. ha ha ha ha ha ha h has ha has ha
The only thing about this Richards is the conversion plate doesn't roll over the cylinder by a 1/16th in. or so. The cases show like a Richards Mason or Late Richards conversion.
Whatta ya think Smoking Gun?
Now.....I know you gots a come back. What is iut Buddy? Lets have it. What's so good about your Kirst conversion?
I know....you can leave out the "it's more authentic" in caliber with the capability of using heeled bullets like the real Colts. You can come up with something better than that. Right?
Pic below....

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Re: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model -- pic of Armi San Marcos conversion Colt 1860 Army, 07:14:51 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model -- Wayne, 07:20:34 02/08/10 Mon
Re: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model -- Wayne, 07:30:02 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model -- pic Uberti Richards Mason conversion to 44 Colt cartridge, 07:54:17 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model -- Smokin_Gun, 15:56:01 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model -- Smokin_Gun, 11:50:08 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model -- Fuzzy (an old fashioned Rem-song), 11:58:11 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model -- Smokin_Gun, 12:11:04 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model -- Fuzzy, 12:23:56 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model -- Fuzzy, 12:25:51 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model -- Wayne, 08:13:33 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model -- Smokin_Gun, 08:43:26 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model -- Smokin_Gun, 09:13:33 02/09/10 Tue

Re: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model -- Wayne, 15:25:20 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model -- Fuzzy, 15:49:07 02/08/10 Mon
Re: Competition for Smoking Guns conversion 38 Colt 1861 Model -- Smokin_Gun, 19:53:01 02/08/10 Mon

What do you do with it when the frame cracks? (NT) -- madcratebuilder, 05:33:46 02/09/10 Tue

Re: What do you do with it when the frame cracks? -- Fuzzy, 06:45:35 02/09/10 Tue

Re: What do you do with it when the frame cracks? -- Fuzzy, 06:58:52 02/09/10 Tue

Re:It's the barrel that cracks? -- Smokin_Gun, 10:18:17 02/09/10 Tue

Subject: CVA Revolver

Author:
Shawn Swigart (SKS)
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Date Posted: 13:58:33 02/08/10 Mon

I have recently acquired an Old CVA revolver. It appears to be a remake of the colt 1862 police. It is brass framed .36 cal. It is only marked CVA with some proofs, no model or caliber marking found. Looks and shoots good, although I have always considered the Small frame revolvers somewhat of a pain and this one is no diffrent. Has any one else ever seen one of these? I am going to guess it was made in the early 70's. I have not been able to find another one online anywhere or in any of the old catalogs I have with the brass frame.

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Re: CVA Revolver -- Joel, 02:38:55 02/08/10 Mon
Re: CVA Revolver -- madcratebuilder, 03:24:46 02/08/10 Mon

Re: CVA Revolver -- Shawn Swigart (sks), 13:10:55 02/08/10 Mon

Re: CVA Revolver Pain? -- opentop, 06:24:07 02/08/10 Mon

Re: CVA Revolver Pain? -- Smokin_Gun, 12:06:56 02/08/10 Mon

Re: CVA Revolver Pain? -- Fuzzy, 12:15:14 02/08/10 Mon

Re: CVA Revolver Pain? -- Shawn Swigart (sks), 13:08:54 02/08/10 Mon

Re: CVA Revolver Pain? -- Fuzzy, 13:58:33 02/08/10 Mon

Subject: cap & ball revolver site

Author:
murph (eye candy)
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Date Posted: 07:07:04 02/08/10 Mon

found this site looking around the web tonight.www.civilwarhandgun.com Also has some obscure revolvers I have not seen.And a bunch of neet revolvers for you johnny reb types,The south got real creative.

Take care,murph

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Re: cap & ball revolver site -- madcratebuilder, 03:29:17 02/08/10 Mon

Re: cap & ball revolver site -- Fuzzy, 07:07:04 02/08/10 Mon

Subject: Thoughts on using the Tap-O-Cap

Author:
DakotaWidowmaker
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Date Posted: 13:41:47 02/08/10 Mon

Well, the thing does work. Using ANY foreign made caps is a crap shoot at best.

I did find a roll of domestic made in a junk drawer at my parents house. Those seemed to work.

I recently tried experimenting with match heads, again.

Here is the kicker, you will be more likely to find US made caps to cut out than you will true "strike anywhere" matches.

So, I tried something I had heard about a while back. When pulverizing the "strike on box" match heads into powder, also scrape off some of the material from the stiker plate. But, put that in a separate container. (as a precaution)

Mix the two with a tiny bit of denatured alcohol and REALLY apply pressure. In my case, I use a small C-clamp. This is best done if you have a plate or die with a hole drilled that matches the hole in the tap-o-cap tool. It will need time to dry.

Anyhow, it does work, but, it ain't pretty and its not exactly "fool proof".

Therefore, stock up on #11 and #10 caps from CCI, Remington and others, cause the day we run out of caps, making them is going to be nearly impossible. At least, in any great quantity.

My test bed for this was a pietta 1860 Army, for those that are wondering.

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Re: Thoughts on using the Tap-O-Cap -- mousegun, 23:50:34 02/07/10 Sun
Re: Thoughts on using the Tap-O-Cap -- Nom De Guerre, 07:00:17 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Thoughts on using the Tap-O-Cap -- mousegun, 13:41:47 02/08/10 Mon

Subject: Did You Know?

Author:
opentop
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Date Posted: 15:48:55 02/09/10 Tue

Did you know Pietta makes 29 versions of the Army revolver, 23 versions of the Navy revolver, 30 versions of the Remington, 6 versions of the LeMat, 5 versions of the Pocket revolver, 2 versions of the Paterson, and 3 versions of the Spiller. Two of the Spillers look like stainless steel.
Here is the web site if you would like a peek.
http://www.pietta.us/products/Muzzleloadinguns/index.html

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Re: Did You Know? -- Smokin_Gun, 16:13:03 02/07/10 Sun

Re: Did You Know? -- Fuzzy, 16:26:32 02/07/10 Sun

Re: Did You Know? -- Joel, 17:08:06 02/07/10 Sun
Re: Did You Know? -- madcratebuilder, 03:33:59 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Did You Know? -- Andy Baker (Spiller), 14:02:05 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Did You Know? -- Smokin_Gun, 15:48:55 02/09/10 Tue

Subject: Gun of the Day for Monday 02 08 10

Author:
Joel
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Date Posted: 17:37:38 02/07/10 Sun

Lemat Revolving Carbine

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Re: Gun of the Day for Monday 02 08 10 -- Joel, 14:57:56 02/07/10 Sun

Re: Gun of the Day for Monday 02 08 10 -- Fuzzy, 15:16:11 02/07/10 Sun
Re: Gun of the Day for Monday 02 08 10 -- Smokin_Gun, 16:15:40 02/07/10 Sun
Re: Gun of the Day for Monday 02 08 10 -- Nom De Guerre, 17:37:38 02/07/10 Sun

Subject: Just heard of the Explosion in Middleton, CT ...

Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 00:35:00 02/08/10 Mon

Are all of you who are near there and families ok?

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Re: Just heard of the Explosion in Middleton, CT ... -- Teletubbie Cannon Crew, 13:29:43 02/07/10 Sun

Re: Just heard of the Explosion in Middleton, CT ... -- Fuzzy, 14:28:35 02/07/10 Sun

Re: Just heard of the Explosion in Middleton, CT ... -- Smokin_Gun, 00:35:00 02/08/10 Mon

Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY RON C.C.

Author:
Smokin_Gun (Still Saturday in CA)
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Date Posted: 11:13:53 02/07/10 Sun

Even us Old Coots have Birthdays ... I hope it was a good one Ron. I had to post it, we don't celebrate enough Birthdays in here...we oughta start.
We'll shoot the candles out instead a blowin' um out...especially in my case :O) heehee!

Happy Birthday to you (lalala)

SG & Pards of BPR

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Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY RON C.C. Forum Party PICS -- Smokin_Gun (Yeeehaw!), 21:43:54 02/06/10 Sat
Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY RON C.C. -- cork, 05:21:23 02/07/10 Sun
Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY RON C.C. -- Uncle Lee, 06:22:47 02/07/10 Sun
Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY RON C.C. -- murph, 07:42:54 02/07/10 Sun

Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY RON C.C. -- Jen & Karen Uberti, 10:14:40 02/07/10 Sun

Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY RON C.C. -- Fuzzy > yu got true grit!, 10:17:04 02/07/10 Sun
Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY RON C.C. -- murph, 10:54:39 02/07/10 Sun

Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY RON C.C. -- Peckerhead, 10:33:09 02/07/10 Sun
Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY RON C.C. -- Ron (Canadian Cowboy), 11:13:53 02/07/10 Sun

Subject: Has anyone seen or heard from?

Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 21:41:20 02/08/10 Mon

Snaggletooth or Western Sky???

I worry about all of y'all, but these two guys ain't checked into the Forum lately...

And I wanna know how they are and what the hell they are doin'.

I kinda may know what Snaggletooth may be up to, but not heard from WS at all.

Anybody got any clues?

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Re: Has anyone seen or heard from? -- Smokin_Gun, 11:19:45 02/07/10 Sun

Re: Has anyone seen or heard from? -- Wayne, 05:23:16 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Has anyone seen or heard from? -- Smokin_Gun, 20:16:21 02/08/10 Mon
Re: Has anyone seen or heard from? -- Smokin_Gun, 21:41:20 02/08/10 Mon

Subject: Kittery

Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 15:39:23 02/09/10 Tue

KTP has a few new (old) guns in. They have a Colt 2nd Generation 1860 .44 for way too much money - $750.
A 2nd Generation 1862 Pocket Police for $650.
The one I want is a "British fowler" 16 ga. bp shotgun with a 42" barrel. It's so tall you can see it across the store sticking up above every other gun in the floor racks. The first part of the barrel is octagonal, then it feathers into a round barrel. It looks to be in mint condition. "LONDON" is engraved on the barrel and the name of the maker is on the sideplate but I can't make it out. You could swat birds out of the air with that barrel.
Right now it's $650 but I think it might be coming down in price.
I did buy a Lee electric bottom pour melter (slightly used) for $20.

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check out this site -- Dave, 19:32:54 02/06/10 Sat

Re: check out this site -- Fuzzy, 06:05:36 02/07/10 Sun

Re: Kittery - 1st for Dave's eyes only -- Smokin_Gun (Thought of you when I saw this one Dave), 21:24:17 02/06/10 Sat

Re: Kittery -- Dave, 06:53:50 02/07/10 Sun

Re: Kittery -- Dave, 06:59:35 02/07/10 Sun
Re: Kittery -- Smokin_Gun, 11:25:39 02/07/10 Sun

Re: Kittery -- Dave, 15:49:26 02/07/10 Sun

Re: Kittery -- cork (just nosey, not curious....), 07:09:51 02/07/10 Sun

Re: Kittery -- Dave, 09:11:49 02/07/10 Sun

Re: Kittery -- cork, 05:55:17 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Kittery -- Smokin_Gun, 15:39:23 02/09/10 Tue

Subject: Gun of the Day for Sunday 02 07 10

Author:
Joel
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Date Posted: 07:38:34 02/07/10 Sun

Admiral Thomas Cochrane, 10th Earl of Dundonald, Marquess do Maranhão, GCB, ODM (Chile) (14 December 1775 – 31 October 1860), styled Lord Cochrane between 1778 and 1831,[1][2] was a senior British naval flag officer and radical politician. He was a daring and successful captain of the Napoleonic Wars, leading the French to nickname him 'Le Loup des Mers' ('The Sea Wolf' or 'The Wolf of the Seas'). He was dismissed from the Royal Navy in 1814, following a conviction for fraud on the Stock Exchange and he then served in the rebel navies of Chile, Brazil and Greece during their respective wars of independence. In 1832, he was reinstated in the Royal Navy with the rank of Rear Admiral of the Blue. After being promoted several times following his reinstatement, he died in 1860 with the rank of Admiral of the Red, and the honorary title of Rear-Admiral of the United Kingdom. His life and exploits served as inspiration for the naval fiction of nineteenth and twentieth-century novelists, particularly C. S. Forester's Horatio Hornblower and Patrick O'Brian's Jack Aubrey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cochrane,_10th_Earl_of_Dundonald

Colt 1851 Navy Cased Presentation Revolver

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Re: Gun of the Day for Sunday 02 07 10 -- Joel, 12:40:12 02/06/10 Sat

Re: Gun of the Day for Sunday 02 07 10 -- Joel, 12:40:59 02/06/10 Sat

Re: Gun of the Day for Sunday 02 07 10 -- Joel, 12:41:50 02/06/10 Sat

Re: Gun of the Day for Sunday 02 07 10 -- Ron (Canadian Cowboy), 21:11:37 02/06/10 Sat

Re: Gun of the Day for Sunday 02 07 10 -- cork, 07:38:34 02/07/10 Sun

Subject: Giraffe Bone Update

Author:
Joel
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Date Posted: 05:42:40 02/08/10 Mon

Got my two slabs of Giraffe bone in the mail today. They look big enough to make a set of grips out of for my pocket 1862, don't think they would do a navy but they are close

They do have more of a "grain" pattern then any cow or other bone I have ever seen, a bit like mastodon ivory. Now I just need to get them made up

My camera chargers on the blink but when I get it fixed I will post some pics. This may turn out to be the best ivory substitute I have found

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Re: Giraffe Bone Update -- 2FISH, 11:12:18 02/06/10 Sat
Re: Giraffe Bone Update -- Wayne, 05:42:40 02/08/10 Mon

Subject: "True Grit"

Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 10:48:56 02/06/10 Sat

Saw the flick "True Grit" last night. Also watched "The Shootist" (JW's last movie) that came on next. Both on TMC cable TV.
Mattie gets here fathers Colt Dragoon.
Rooster, lowers himself into a pit of rattlesnakes. (SG, do you huntem like that?)
General Sterling Price the cat, makes his apperarance.
This movie got Johne Wayne his only Acadamy Award as best actor. He deserved more movie awards.
Here are some great still pics of the movie.

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=True_Grit

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Re: "True Grit" -- Fuzzy, 08:37:50 02/06/10 Sat

Re: "True Grit" -- Joel, 10:46:19 02/06/10 Sat
Re: "True Grit" -- Smokin_Gun, 10:48:56 02/06/10 Sat

Subject: Just a "little" concerned

Author:
Andy Baker (WTF?)
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Date Posted: 22:53:55 02/08/10 Mon

Maybe it's just me. All the sudden Dixie is havin' a SALE.

LeMat's for $495.00??????? A number of revolvers and pistols marked down $75.00 - $100.00.

Gunbroker has some NICE Rems that are very reasonable.

Hell, I just picked up a beautiful Uberti (Western Arms) '60 Army for $145.00.

I'm just hoping this ain't the beginning of the end. This economy is REALLY scaring me.

Just ramblin'..........Andy

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Re: Just a "little" concerned -- madcratebuilder, 04:35:14 02/06/10 Sat

Re: Just a "little" concerned -- Sundance, 10:59:32 02/06/10 Sat

Re: Just a "little" concerned -- Fuzzy, 11:26:49 02/06/10 Sat

Re: Just a "little" concerned -- Andy baker (Mark up???), 19:46:25 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Just a "little" concerned -- Joel, 14:21:13 02/06/10 Sat
Re: Just a "little" concerned -- Andy Baker, 18:16:50 02/08/10 Mon

Re: Just a "little" concerned -- Smokin_Gun, 22:53:55 02/08/10 Mon

Subject: Knives Round 2

Author:
Joel
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Date Posted: 19:00:56 02/05/10 Fri

California makers Will & Finck, Michael Price, and F Watson

Bowies, Daggers and Dirks

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Re: Knives Round 2 -- Joel, 18:57:52 02/05/10 Fri

Re: Knives Round 2 -- Joel, 18:58:35 02/05/10 Fri

Re: Knives Round 2 -- Joel, 18:59:28 02/05/10 Fri

Re: Knives Round 2 -- Joel, 19:00:15 02/05/10 Fri

Re: Knives Round 2 -- Joel, 19:00:56 02/05/10 Fri

Subject: 1849 Wells Fargo

Author:
Nick
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Date Posted: 16:50:53 02/06/10 Sat

How hard is it to load one of these little beauties, not having a loading lever and all?

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Re: 1849 Wells Fargo -- opentop, 18:48:44 02/05/10 Fri

Re: 1849 Wells Fargo -- Howard, 16:50:53 02/06/10 Sat

Re: 1849 Wells Fargo -- madcratebuilder, 04:38:17 02/06/10 Sat

Subject: Heres something you don't see everyday

Author:
Joel
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Date Posted: 15:38:50 02/05/10 Fri

A cased pair of bowies. The makers name, Parkin & Marshall dates it to the 1850's

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Re: Heres something you don't see everyday -- Joel, 15:33:12 02/05/10 Fri

Re: Heres something you don't see everyday -- Smokin_Gun, 15:36:24 02/05/10 Fri
Re: Heres something you don't see everyday -- Joel, 15:38:50 02/05/10 Fri

Subject: Gun of the Day - Saturday 02 06 10

Author:
Joel
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Date Posted: 19:43:57 02/05/10 Fri

SG said yesterday's wuld be hard to beat - I am sure you have all seen this one before - Third Mmodel Dragoon made for the Czar of Russia and presented to the Sultan of Turkey (actually the Pasha of the Ottoman Empire at the time)

Currently at the Met in NY it is said the owners turned down $5,000,000 for it before donating it

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Re: Gun of the Day - Saturday 02 06 10 -- Joel, 14:38:09 02/05/10 Fri

Re: Gun of the Day - Saturday 02 06 10 -- Smokin_Gun, 14:49:56 02/05/10 Fri
Re: Gun of the Day - Saturday 02 06 10 -- Joel, 19:31:19 02/05/10 Fri

Re: Gun of the Day - Saturday 02 06 10 -- Joel, 19:43:57 02/05/10 Fri

Subject: history question

Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 14:32:43 02/06/10 Sat

Does anyone know if percussion caps were not made after the introduction of cartridge guns? (say, 1880s on)
I know they've always been around, but did they stop production of the little buggers until repros came onto the market, or has it been a steady production?

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Re: history question -- Fuzzy, 10:59:13 02/05/10 Fri

Re: history question -- Fuzzy, 11:20:52 02/05/10 Fri

Re: history question -- cork, 12:08:23 02/05/10 Fri

Re: history question -- Fuzzy, 12:31:02 02/05/10 Fri

Re: history question -- cork, 11:09:36 02/05/10 Fri

Re: history question -- Fuzzy, 11:29:51 02/05/10 Fri
Re: history question -- cork, 11:53:02 02/05/10 Fri

Re: history question -- Dave, 11:54:39 02/05/10 Fri

Re: history question -- Smokin_Gun, 12:33:42 02/05/10 Fri
Re: history question -- cork, 12:36:44 02/05/10 Fri

Re: history question -- Fuzzy, 12:40:53 02/05/10 Fri
Re: history question -- Sundance, 12:42:25 02/05/10 Fri

Re: history question -- Fuzzy, 12:45:53 02/05/10 Fri

Re: history question -- Sundance, 13:16:46 02/05/10 Fri

Re: history question -- Fuzzy, 13:27:30 02/05/10 Fri

Re: history question -- Fuzzy, 13:39:37 02/05/10 Fri

Re: history question -- mousegun, 14:33:48 02/05/10 Fri

Re: history question > A RE-CAP of previous posts... -- Fuzzy, 14:41:41 02/05/10 Fri
Tap O Cap -- Dave, 15:44:35 02/05/10 Fri
Re: history question -- Smokin_Gun, 20:22:47 02/05/10 Fri

Re: history question -- mousegun, 11:22:16 02/06/10 Sat

Re: history question -- Smokin_Gun, 14:32:43 02/06/10 Sat

Re: history question -- Joel, 19:11:37 02/05/10 Fri

Subject: HI HO SILVER

Author:
2FISH
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Date Posted: 10:50:46 02/06/10 Sat

The lone ranger rides again. John Hart that played the Lone ranger died last year and some of his collectables are being sold on Ebay by his widow. I have bought a few items and am pleased to have them in my hands.
I had to have them since I shook his hand and he gave me a silver bullet when I was 10 years old and went to the Saturday matinee to watch westerns all day with about 75 cents in my pocket and walked the railroad tracks from Jefferson ave into Newport News VA. to the theater. On the way home I would ride the slow moving trains and jump off near home. I knew where the hobo shacks where and would stop by to get a cup of warm tea from them to get me home. No, I never told my Mom or Dad.
Check out his stuff on the link there will be more listed every Sunday...Like being a kid again.
George
http://shop.ebay.com/bigmick45/m.html?_trkparms=65%253A1%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1&_ipg=&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_pgn=2

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/sep/23/local/me-john-hart23

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Re: HI HO SILVER -- Fuzzy, 10:44:46 02/05/10 Fri

Re: Nice find ..Kee Mo Sah Bee -- Sundance, 12:33:54 02/05/10 Fri

Re: HI HO SILVER -- cork (pfthhhhhhht............), 13:10:28 02/05/10 Fri

Re:Colt does what? -- Smokin_Gun, 15:00:02 02/05/10 Fri
Cork, You are so right (NT) -- Uncle Lee (1851s rule), 05:20:07 02/06/10 Sat

Re: Cork, You are so right -- cork (;O), 08:28:12 02/06/10 Sat

Re: Cork, You are so right -- Smokin_Gun, 10:50:46 02/06/10 Sat

Re: HI HO SILVER -- Peckerhead, 13:27:44 02/05/10 Fri

Re: HI HO SILVER -- Fuzzy, 13:33:53 02/05/10 Fri
Re: HI HO SILVER -- 2FISH, 14:48:49 02/05/10 Fri
Re: HI HO SILVER -- Smokin_Gun, 15:04:59 02/05/10 Fri

Re: HI HO SILVER -- Peckerhead, 14:37:26 02/05/10 Fri

Re: HI HO SILVER -- Jennifer Uberti, 14:46:23 02/05/10 Fri
Re: HI HO SILVER -- Tuco, 15:08:44 02/05/10 Fri

Re: HI HO SILVER -- Ron (Canadian Cowboy), 18:28:15 02/05/10 Fri

Re: HI HO SILVER -- Smokin_Gun, 19:29:22 02/05/10 Fri

Subject: Iron Frame

Author:
opentop
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Date Posted: 10:39:19 02/05/10 Fri

Sometimes I see a gun listed as having an iron frame. Does that mean it is cast iron? The stuff that if you hit it hard enough big chuncks will break off.

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Re: Iron Frame -- cork, 09:28:31 02/05/10 Fri

Re: Iron Frame -- cork ('member now.......), 10:08:50 02/05/10 Fri

Re: Iron Frame -- Fuzzy, 10:36:51 02/05/10 Fri

Re: Iron Frame -- Dave, 10:39:19 02/05/10 Fri

Subject: Original Remington

Author:
Krash
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Date Posted: 06:32:22 02/07/10 Sun

A guy at work told me he loaned his sister some cash and she gave him a Remington pistol for collateral. He thought it was old I thought it might be a repo( belonged to her ex boyfriend). He brought some pictures in to work and it's a real one alright. Has some simple egraving on it and has a cartridge conversion done for rimfire bullets. Five shot with a two piece cylinder, has a backing plate for the cartridges. He wanted to know what it was worth and I told him since he was such a nice guy that I'd give him $50 for it. He didn't bite but the gun looed to be in really good shape with the original holster. Had a worn thrugh place on the holster where the cylinder had cut through. Probably sat in a drawer for years then someone die and a relative got it. Grips looked great. There are still a few out there guys, just stting around waitng for someone to love them.

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Re: Original Remington -- fuzzy, 08:18:47 02/05/10 Fri
Re: Original Remington -- Joel, 08:49:12 02/05/10 Fri

Re: Original Remington -- Krash, 06:32:22 02/07/10 Sun

Re: Original Remington -- Smokin_Gun, 15:12:51 02/05/10 Fri

Subject: Safety pins

Author:
Nick
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Date Posted: 10:39:26 02/05/10 Fri

On a lot of original Colts I've seen, the safety pins between chambers are sheared off. It seems to me this would be pretty hard to do. You'd almost have to try to do this. I mean, really, how does this happen?

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Re: Safety pins -- Smokin_Gun, 22:42:43 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Safety pins -- Smokin_Gun, 18:46:20 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Safety pins -- Thumper, 19:01:06 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Safety pins -- Howard 31, 19:40:46 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Safety pins -- Smokin_Gun, 22:31:08 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Safety pins -- madcratebuilder, 04:23:42 02/05/10 Fri

Re: Safety pins -- cork, 10:39:26 02/05/10 Fri

Subject: Guns of the Day - Friday 02 05 10

Author:
Joel
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Date Posted: 15:20:16 02/05/10 Fri

This is a matched pair of Third Model Dragoons made for King Vittorio Emmanueleii of Italy

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Re: Guns of the Day - Friday 02 05 10 -- Joel, 13:00:22 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Guns of the Day - Friday 02 05 10 -- Joel, 13:01:05 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Guns of the Day - Friday 02 05 10 -- Smokin_Gun, 16:55:52 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Guns of the Day - Friday 02 05 10 -- Joel, 17:12:49 02/04/10 Thu

As Richard Petty said, "Its' Good To Be The King"!! (NT) -- Thumper, 18:29:20 02/04/10 Thu
So Did Mel Brooks...A Relative SG? (NT) -- Thumper, 18:31:42 02/04/10 Thu

Re: So Did Mel Brooks...A Relative SG? ... :O) (NT) -- Smokin_Gun, 18:47:29 02/04/10 Thu
Re: So Did Mel Brooks...A Relative SG? -- Smokin_Gun, 15:20:16 02/05/10 Fri

Subject: Have gun will travel

Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 17:31:40 02/05/10 Fri

I bought a NIB Uberti Remington 1858 Forged frame revolver 3 years ago from a guy, that was bought from Taylors & Co. I bought from a guy whose brother owned it, and had passed away. I think I paid $200- for it.
I recently came across another forum where the guy I sold it to, had it up for sale again after buying it from me several years ago. I questioned him about this specific revolver. He said it was the one I sold to him.
I sent him an email, and it was still available. So i am buying it back. So now I have one of my favorite revolvers back.
Anyone here have the same experiance buying back a past possesion of theirs?

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Re: Have gun will travel -- Krash, 20:02:55 02/03/10 Wed
Re: Have gun will travel -- Smokin_Gun, 21:07:50 02/03/10 Wed
Re: Have gun will travel -- Uncle Lee, 05:25:18 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Have gun will travel -- Fuzzy, 07:34:04 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Have gun will travel -- Lee Masterson-Hoberts Corner Veteran, 13:41:46 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Have gun will travel -- Smokin_Gun, 17:44:49 02/04/10 Thu

Re: HE ALSO HAD SOME OTHER GUNS AND CONV-CYLS -- fuzzy, 08:32:55 02/05/10 Fri

Re: HE ALSO HAD SOME OTHER GUNS AND CONV-CYLS -- Smokin_Gun, 17:31:40 02/05/10 Fri

Subject: Requests, por favoro.......

Author:
cork (please...)
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Date Posted: 04:19:04 02/05/10 Fri

A couple years ago, give or take a year or so, someone posted a link to a story:

Takes place in the not too distant future: About a grandfather who had hidden away a stash of guns and ammo (with his friends) after a government crackdown. The son was brain washed, but gramps held out hope for the grandson and showed him the stash............grandson, after returning from a walk with Gramps; "OK, Dad, you can call the authorities now."

Dave,
have been reading "The Federalist Papers" by Hamilton/Jay/Madison. And you, being an established citizen of the State of Massachusetts (when does one even learn to spell the state? 4th or 5th grade?), might have memories of this from yur elemetary education.

The "Papers" (in favor of the Constitution) were written between 1781 and 1788, and letter #21 (Hamliton), makes reference to something that happened around this time-frame in your home state; "A successful faction may erect a tyranny on the ruins of order and law, while no succor could constitutionally be afforded by the Union to the friends and supporters of the government. The tempestuous situation from which Massachusetts has scarcely emerged, evinces that dangers of this kind are not merely speculative. Who can determine what might have been the issue of her late convulsions, if the malcontents had been headed by a Caesar or by a Cromwell?......"

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Re: Requests, por favoro....... -- Dave, 16:12:24 02/03/10 Wed

Shay's Rebellion? -- Dave, 16:14:37 02/03/10 Wed

Re: Shay's Rebellion? -- cork (Thanx Dave!), 16:54:39 02/03/10 Wed

Re: Shay's Rebellion? -- jerry, 19:41:12 02/03/10 Wed

Re: Shay's Rebellion? -- Joel, 07:17:02 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Requests, por favoro....... -- Uncle Lee, 05:35:17 02/04/10 Thu

Well Well (NT) -- Undle Lee (it thought I was a spamer), 05:35:58 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Well Well -- cork (;O), 12:59:31 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Well Well -- Smokin_Gun, 17:52:57 02/04/10 Thu

Spam ain't no joke -- Uncle Lee, 04:19:04 02/05/10 Fri

Re: Requests, por favoro....... -- cork (Not "life or death" however....), 13:51:54 02/04/10 Thu

Subject: Alignment visual and mystery reflections

Author:
Waynerinskistiener (Western Sky-I say - chambers that gun)
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Date Posted: 00:25:06 02/05/10 Fri

Cummunicating with a friend the subject came up of seeing the "Silver Moon of Misalignment" in a guns breech area of the barrel with a little flash light.
The friend had the opinion that there was a very small amount of misalignment to a gun we both observed for alignment quality.
I checked it again for the hundredth time it seemed....I check guns for chamber alignment just for the fun of it as well as for the needed observation when tuning guns fer myself or others.
Anyway I can tell by using tricks of the Kitchen Table Gunamith Trade tht the gun has what appears to a perfect alignment of all the chambers to the bore and grooves of the barrel.
One trick to use to check if there really is misalignment when it is confusing down there in the chamber at the face of the cylinder and all using a little flash light is to....
Put the chamber at full cock ,naturally, and observe what "may" be misalignment showing as a "Silver Moon of Misaignment". The face of the cylinder reflecting back at you showing the chamber is not aligned right but may be showing a "mystery reflection.Note the misalignment as a silver moon and....since there is almost always a very slight movement to the cylinder back and forth even in a tuned gun(the bolt should have a slight amount of play due to the fact the bolt can't be too tight in the cylinder notches and function totally reliably when cocking really fast and its actually best to have a bolt that is a tiny bit loose in the cylinder notches but.....not enough to let the clyinder move far enough to be misaligned.... the loose to the bolt in the notch has to be within a specs. where as the movement of the cylinder can't be more than is needed to not show misalignment..now that that is explained)and that can be used to check to see if the "Silver Moon" you may think is there is...really there.
Move the cylinder back and forth while peering into the barrel with a light and note whether or not the little "Silver moon" you think may be there "moves with the cylinder" as it goes back and forth a tiny bit due to the slight loose to the bolt in the cylinders notches.If the cylinder moves and the "Silver Moon" doesn't move the "Silver Moon" of cylinder face reflection isn't really cylinder face misalignment reflection but a "Mystery relection".
In the case of the gun in question the "Silver Moon" that by any first glance looks like misalignment or reflection of the cylinder face along a side of the barrels breech circle in actuallity is really the edge of the forcing cone closect to the observer that had light reflection off the nipple bottom beause of the oil on it. The reflection seen is the reflection of the forward edge of the forcing cone on the barrel that actually reflects backwards and not towards the observer but shows a tiny bit of it's highest point as a slight reflection. Know what I mean.
Anyway since that reflection doesn't move "with" the cylinder as the cylinder is moved back and forth it isn't cylinder face showing as misalignment but some other refletion I call ?mystery freflection".
I have a trick other than moving the cyinder back and forth in it's bolt to cylinder notch play to check to see if the relection follows the movement of the cylinder thus is the face of the cylinder showing.
I put the gun onhalf cock and line up the chambers as they lok when the gun is actually on full cock. That lets memove the chambers back and forth a ot more. I observe if the reflection that might be misalignment moves with the cylinde and also....I note the "Silver Moon" that I get moving the cylinder in half cock mode on each side of the chamber as the cylinder goes back and forth. The complete circle of the cylinder face edge can't be seen but almost most can be seen except for all of it at the top and the bottom of the edge of the chamber.....when the chamber is actuallty aligned properly. Anyway it isn't difficult to note where the part you can't see at the top and bottom really is in relation to the barrel as I move the cylinder. The gun in guestion shows that the edge of the chamber at the top and bottom actually is behind the edge of the barrels breech meaning...the chamber has to actually be a little bigger in diameter than the groove diameter of the barel.
Anyway..if the regflection a person sees as possible misalignment on one side is showing when the cylinder is moved to where the opposite side shows a very large amount of cylinder face meaning the side where the possible "Silver Moon" is can't possibly be anywhere close to the edge of the barrels breech circle then the possible "Silver Moon" of misalignment reflection can't possibly be misalignment but a mystery reflection. It's not too difficlt to figure what the mystery reflection really is. Sometimes, as is the case with the gun in quetion,a drill line in the chamber further down in the chamber reflects light also an tries to look like misalignment.Someimes the edge or shoulder of where the chamber gets smaller and the nipple hole starts likes to try to look like misalignment.
Anyway...whether or not a person can understand what I'm trying to put into words they can get the idea that sometimes things aren't as simple as we think they are and complications can arise...as in looking down a hole with a light and seeing refletions. The little devils of the gun gremmlins can try to fool you sometime. Actually all the time they are there to confound and fool and try to Muck you up. ha haha ha
Please overlook any mis-typed words where I go too fast and hit "tyhe" wrong keys or two keys at once.

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Re: Alignment visual and mystery reflections -- Teletubbie cannon crew, 10:02:44 02/03/10 Wed
Re: Alignment visual and mystery reflections -- Smokin_Gun, 11:22:44 02/03/10 Wed

Re: Alignment visual and mystery reflections -- Wayne, 14:57:14 02/03/10 Wed

Re: Alignment visual and mystery reflections -- Wayne, 15:00:28 02/03/10 Wed

Re: Alignment visual and mystery reflections -- gerry, 15:05:31 02/03/10 Wed

Re: Alignment visual and mystery reflections (NT) -- right gerry!, 21:55:56 02/03/10 Wed

Re: Alignment visual and mystery reflections -- Smokin_Gun, 22:51:03 02/03/10 Wed

Re: Alignment visual and mystery reflections (NT) -- You got it Smokin Mountain Man, 03:35:47 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Alignment visual and mystery reflections -- Smokin_Gun, 00:25:06 02/05/10 Fri

Re: Alignment visual and mystery reflections -- KAT, 16:15:03 02/03/10 Wed

Re: Kitchen Table Gunsmith (NT) -- Smokin_Gun (by Wayne Der Rifle), 00:31:02 02/04/10 Thu
Re: Alignment visual and mystery reflections (NT) -- HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, 03:37:02 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Alignment visual and mystery reflections -- Smokin_Gun, 22:35:20 02/04/10 Thu

Subject: Need money bad

Author:
Wayne the Poor Man
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Date Posted: 04:22:05 02/05/10 Fri

I need to sell something quick to try to bid on something on an auction that I've been wanting for dacades.
I have to sell the Belgian 1860 Centaure that I just revamped,tuned timed and indexed very well. Trigger job with rehardened trigger and hammer and all. Very nice Centaure with bluing real good and not hardly any dings or anything. I would literally hate to sell the gun but......
There's something special to me I'd like to try to get. So....if I had the promise of some money from someone that really wanted the nicest Colt 1860 Centaure I've ever worked on I'd try to do some bidding.
I'd like to get the money or the promise of the money from a trustful soul that wants the gun and if I win the bid go ahead with the sale of the belgian or if I don't win the bid on the auction then forfeit the sale. Know what I mean? I'd only go ahead with the sale of the Belgian if I won the auction.
The gun is the one I just worked over for Western Sky and then bought it from him. The remarks he had about the guns action are below in a post somewhere. The action is really nice asd is the bluing anf the fit mechanically of the gun. Good barrel with no misalignmentof the chambers to the bore. None. As perfect as I've ever seen. Western Sky noted when he sent me the gun to work that he thought it may have some tiny bit of misalignment to the chambers. That isn't the case and just the "mystery reflections" that fooled Western Sky. I'll have to post about that...the deeper degree of seeing or determining if there is misalignment when seeing down the barrel with a light.
Anyway the alignment is as perfect on this gun as I've ever seen.
The gun is worth some moola and I'd want a fair price fer it.
Any takers? Anyone want to promise or pay on a really nice Belgian 1860 Centaure Colt? They are rare in this condition of preservation and...rare to have an action about as good as it gets with a cap&baller revoler. No surprises or hidden faults. Just a rally good gun. I haven't shot it so I can't say how it shoots but....it doesn't appear to have any faults that would hamper it's shooting that I can see.
I'll post a pic. I'd cry to see it go but I do have seven Centaures now. I was really glad to get it off Werstern Sky when he decided to down load his collection of some guns.
Anyway I'll put a pic up and try to deal on price by way of e-mail or phone. rifleo@localnet.com
I'll giver the phone number via e-mail if someone wants to talk turkey.
I just have to try to bid on the gun I've dreamed of having for decades now and, as would always seem to be the case, I'm low on funds due to car maintainance and doctors bills and all that for myself and the wife.

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Re: Need money bad -- pic...I hope...."the gun on the right", 07:58:35 02/03/10 Wed
Spent it all on the Walker brother, sorry. (NT) -- KAT, 08:01:52 02/03/10 Wed

Re: Spent it all on the Walker brother, sorry. -- Wayne, 15:04:14 02/03/10 Wed

Why not... -- Dave, 16:19:55 02/03/10 Wed

Re: Why not... -- wayne, 21:59:10 02/03/10 Wed

Re: Why not... -- Smokin_Gun, 22:55:33 02/03/10 Wed

Re: Why not... -- Smokin_Gun, 22:59:52 02/03/10 Wed
Re: Why not... -- Wayne, 05:40:13 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Why not... -- Smokin_Gun, 11:37:02 02/04/10 Thu
Re: Why not... $880.00 is a good reason :O) -- Smokin_Gun, 22:54:20 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Why not... -- howard, 17:38:19 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Need money bad -- madcratebuilder, 05:58:03 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Need money bad -- Wayne, 07:07:37 02/04/10 Thu

Re: Need money bad -- Wayne, 07:13:40 02/04/10 Thu

Thought about buying it for you -- Uncle Lee, 04:22:05 02/05/10 Fri

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