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Subject: check this out


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Dave
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Date Posted: 12:10:13 09/02/10 Thu

My latest obsession (I got over the 20 ga fowler).
I saw and handled one of these rifles in a store in NH. It looks just like the one listed in this link. They say it's .36 caliber but I'm going back with my calipers and a bore light. I got them down to $750.
Whatdoyathink?
http://www.proxybid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=1290&aid=12925&lid=3341115#topoflot

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Subject: accuracy


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 11:18:11 09/02/10 Thu

What is a reasonable accurate distance for a handgun with a 2 inch barrel? (either BP or modern ammo).

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Subject: New member


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Snaggletooth
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Date Posted: 21:31:50 09/01/10 Wed

There is a new member on the other forum that I think alot of the Sharpshooters would like to chat with. Charlie Hahn is his name. Somebody say Howdy to him over there.

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Subject: All Sharpshooters


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Snaggletooth
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Date Posted: 19:40:25 09/01/10 Wed

Well, I dirtied my nest again. I bought a pack of 5 of the brass cartridge casings for the IAB Sharps. I got them off ebay and asked the seller if they fit the IAB she was selling. She said they slipped right in. They do but only about 2/3 of the way in. The IAB apparently has a smaller chamber than the other makes. Im waiting on a pair of handles for the mould. They should be here Thurs or Friday. Im ancious to shoot that sucker.

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Subject: What Brand of Olive Oil do you use?


Author:
rommer 25
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Date Posted: 02:29:59 09/01/10 Wed

I have been using Olive Oil on my BP revolvers for many years. I usually buy it at Cosco. The last time I purchased some "virgin olive oil" it was at Albertsons. I got brand X.

I just took out some of the revolvers I had stored for a few months and they appear to have cosomoline on them. The olive oil seems to have thickened so much that I had to break them all down and clean them.

This never happened before.

Now, since they are all clean, I feel like taking them shooting. TM.

Anyone know the best brand to buy?

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Subject: Gunshow


Author:
Snaggletooth
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Date Posted: 11:03:12 08/31/10 Tue

Went to a gunshow in St Robert/Waynesville Mo area and was disappointed. Only three tables displayed any BP guns. I was looking for handles for my mold. Not one handle displayed.
I did have one very interesting event, I got to talk to "Fingers McGee' about Colts and Sharps rifles. Man he has a beautiful trapdoor rifle and he had his 1860 stainless on display. I came away with some interesting information
Alot of modern firearms amd the boys are really proud of them

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Subject: .36


Author:
doc623
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Date Posted: 12:58:05 08/30/10 Mon

What would be the best .36 C&B revoolver to purchase?
I"m familiar with the ROA.

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Subject: 1858/1851


Author:
Hillbilly Bill
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Date Posted: 07:47:52 08/30/10 Mon

I have 3 reproductions of 1858rem,1851 colt. I know most people shoot 30g max,but i have fired 1000 rounds though my guns at 45g of pyrodex r/s ffg and it don't seem to effect them at all and they shoot 1 1/4 group at 20yd freehand with 451 ball. So I'm getting 1050fps i think thats enough to take any whitetail in the state of Arkansas

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Subject: If interested in login on to Voy BPR see below


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Smokin_Gun (was just a thought)
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Date Posted: 17:16:50 08/29/10 Sun

Everyone, if interested in email listed in postings, editing your text, and joining the Voy BPR Contributions account well here goes.
This is how ya do it and correct me if I am mistaken please.
1)Menu at top left of page in a tool bar

2)Brings you to Voy Menu with the following selection to make

3)Go to Preferances and choose

4)View/Change Email Address

Just to answer a question if there was one :O)

SG

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Subject: EPA Surrenders to NRA on Gun Control Issue


Author:
Smokin_Gun (thought you should see this)
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Date Posted: 13:30:17 08/29/10 Sun

Report EPA/Gun Control/2nd amend.
http://politics.usnews.com/news/washington-whispers/articles/2010/08/27/epa-surrenders-to-nra-on-gun-control-issue-epa-rejects-attempt-to-regulate-lead-in-bullets-after-nra-protests.html

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Subject: snake shot


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gerry
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Date Posted: 08:49:45 08/29/10 Sun

hey smoken,going out to east Texas in Sept,would like to load my 58 with #6 or #9 shot for snakes.my CRS has kicked in and i can't member if when loading in the cylinder you can wrap with TP or just pour in with a wad between the shot & powder with wad over the shot.also whats the spread at 10-15 ft.that's as close as i would like to get on a 5-6' rattler or moc.

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Subject: Been at it again


Author:
Wayne
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Date Posted: 08:11:02 08/29/10 Sun

Revamped the quench system to make it easier. Fitted an adjustable plate to the quench barrel where the crucibles can be set in the hole in the top of the plate. Two bolts dropped in holes keep the crucible from turning as I unscrew the cap off the end next to the water to drop the parts. Had the top of the crucibles(three inch diameter pipe from the oil field supply place)cut to shorter size and a thick 5-6 inch plate welded to the end and a big nut (for grabbing out of the fire)welded to the top of the plate. Grab it out of the fire,red hot,and set it in the hole,drop the two bolts in the holes drilled in the top so it can't turn and then unscrew the cap at the bottom to drop the parts. The plate to set the crucible in/on is fixed to the top of the quench barrel and holds the red hot crucible so it can't turn and is secured with that angle iron bought at the hardware that has multible holes drilled in it the full length. That way I can use crucibles of different lengths.
Anyway I did more casehardening and it came out alright. pic below in reply.

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Subject: 45-70


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 20:29:08 08/28/10 Sat

I was in a gunshop in northern NH yesterday and they had a replica Springfield trapdoor 45-70 with Uberti and Pedersoli names on the barrel. I've never seen one before. Beautiful gun. $999.00.
Also, I went for a helicopter ride over the mountains and we passed over the site of this explosion that happened last spring. Ouch.
http://www.wmur.com/news/23556316/detail.html

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Subject: anuder Friday nite..


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Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 20:18:03 08/27/10 Fri

oh geez.. Sundance, dun bought me too many drinks tonight...

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Subject: .50cal Rem Rollin' Block to go with ,50cal Rifle


Author:
Smokin_Gun (Want one)
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Date Posted: 22:31:33 08/26/10 Thu

This would be the answer for the Question of who makes a .50cal pistol to go with their .50cal rifle.
This Remington would do it for me. Do they make a Replica of this Rollin' Block? Yeah I know it's a cart gun but it's purdy cool.
http://www.gunsamerica.com//942930744/Guns/Pistols/Antique/Remington_1871_ARMY_Rolling_Block.htm?wl=1

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Subject: Thumper


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Krash
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Date Posted: 07:01:25 08/26/10 Thu

I tried to send you an email and it came bouncing back. If your email hads changed, how about sending me one so I can fix it in my address book. Thank you!

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Subject: Pietta 44 BP stainless + conversion cylinder


Author:
Bo T
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Date Posted: 23:31:40 08/25/10 Wed

In case anyone is interested I saw this on a forum recently. I didn't even know that Pietta made stainless BP revolvers.

http://www.spokaneguntrader.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3987

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Subject: cylinders


Author:
gerry
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Date Posted: 17:59:26 08/25/10 Wed

any of you gentlemen (and i use the word loosely)know of a source that i maybe be able to get a cylinder for a asm 1858 remme brasser.i've checked at VTI but they are'nt listing a price.thanks ahead of time for any thing

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Subject: check this out


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 17:55:03 08/25/10 Wed

For guys like me who needs visual aids, here's a pretty good site for cartridge info:
http://cartridgecollectors.org/glossary.htm

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Subject: new plan


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 21:51:49 08/24/10 Tue

I finally contacted Bob Boyd at the Freischutz Shop in PA and asked him about relining the barrel of my Belgian rifle/smoothbore. He seems to be Da Man when it comes to barrel relining. I'm shipping the barrel to him this week so he can check it out. Cost: about $200. That Belgian would be a great long distance shooter - right now it's about .54 caliber and smoothbored. I'd get it done in .50 caliber.

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Subject: Went to the hill's today.


Author:
rommer25
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Date Posted: 08:52:44 08/24/10 Tue

My son brought one of those new automatic pistols: a HK in 45 ACP. We went out to see how it shoots. I took my 1858 Remington in 44. I also took an old 1911 45 Auto that I haven’t shot in 20 years. Happy to say that my Remington took the day. We shot at water filled one and two liter soda bottles. I was hitting the one liter bottles from 50 feet consistently. I was using Real Black Powder behind a ball and lube pills in between. This was a last moment thing, so I didn’t take a camera. My son was impressed with the Black Powder revolver. I finally did get around to shooting the 1911 and did almost as well. I guess the Remington did better because that is what I am use to.

The HK is a please to shoot and is very accurate, just not as fun.

In fairness to my son, I should mention it is his first pistol and he will in time, become proficient with it.

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Subject: Found a Cleanin' Rod for 1873 Springfield T.D.


Author:
Smokin_Gun (hopefull)
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Date Posted: 08:09:48 08/24/10 Tue

I'm hopin' for one thing it's the correct rod. It's listed on eBay $59.95 has other parts too for a model 1873 made 1884 like the one I have.
Hopefully someone can tell me if it's the right one and if the price is about right. I have two bids on it one increased the original bid if needed.
What y'all think or know.

Pics on page 2

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Subject: "Ace in the Hole"


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 19:04:24 08/23/10 Mon

Pawn Stars put up on YouTube.
This is the gamblers kit w/ Colt Conversion revolver.
2 parts nxt pge
enjoy!

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Subject: Lyman Mould


Author:
Snaggletooth
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Date Posted: 16:21:16 08/23/10 Mon

As we say in Missouri, "I'M a lookin to buy" a set of handles for a Lyman Mold. It apparently sells without handles. The mold is for a ringtail 55 cal. Anyone have a set laying around they want to sell?

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Subject: compound slide milling and drilling table


Author:
who else?
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Date Posted: 11:42:03 08/23/10 Mon

Message from the postingator.
Couldn't help but post this as a help for fellow cap&ballers.
I've mentioned this before but the cost was always higher for this apparatus.
Compound slide milling and drilling table.....fit to "drill press" and make a milling machine to cut your own dovetailed front or rear sights and do a pergfect job of it. Get a cheapie milling vise model# tf425-7240 $86.95 or with swivel based model#tf4257241 $$99.95 and you're good to go to cut pistol of rifle dovetailed sights.
Get good at it and make yer money back helping other cap&baller Pards with their sights and charging a small price to do it.
With the compound table a drill press can be like a cheapie milling machine to work other types of parts if you buy a few end mills and a gauge like model #tf890-9824 and a magnetic flexible holder for it and....be a Kitchen Table Gunsmith with some machining capabilities.
Brownells sells the 60degree dovetail endmills.
www.use-enco.com
model# tf201-2826 cost on sale $89.95 reg. price $200
model#tf201-2536 cost on sale $145 reg. price $175

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Subject: True Grit


Author:
R
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Date Posted: 11:41:07 08/23/10 Mon


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Subject: Jerry, Didn't Want You To Miss My Reply To Your Post Below


Author:
Thumper
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Date Posted: 08:36:38 08/23/10 Mon

Jerry, If you had read my original post I think you would have seen that my horses are my pleasure, not my business. I have made it clear that I am not a working cow-hand, avid showman or professional trainer....did-ja miss that? I did all that stuff when my back would let me, but that was then and this is now!

I missed the part where I was whining, perhaps you'll point it out to me??? Was it the money? As well you know, people can spend tens of thousands of $$ showing, campaigning and competing with a SINGLE horse, you pick the discipline. My monetary level is where it is enjoyable, pretty much ideal for the horses and gives me pleasure within my budget & locale. By the way I said "Some folks do it cheaper", not "The only ones". Perhaps reading my written lines instead of trying to read between them would promote a "more harmonious outcome".

Vet work? Let me see, I worm, I give shots (all), I've dressed wounds, treated thrush, helped birth stuck foals,(2) and even had to help the vet cut a dead foal out of a friends mare. Am I a vet or farrier? Nope, but I can trim a hoof as well as the next man out of necessity, can't guarantee perfect alignment or balance, but good none the less. I figure it's best to let the pro's do what they get paid for and keep me from screwing my horses up. I've seen plenty of examples of "cowboy's" laming their horses doing their own hoof/shoeing work.

About broken and worn out gear, well, shit happens when you own and use something 20+ years. Nylon wears out and buckles break (Aussie saddle overgirth). About the bosal and stuff, well there was a real good reason that involved a family member and they're embarrassed enough so I won't post it on the internet, but hell, it just ain't none of your damn business anyhow is it?!

Perhaps you are blessed by living in area where ALL horses are treated right, given shelter, proper food and water, trained and used properly and all can expect a good retirement or humane death after their working lives are done. That's just not the case in either Oregon or Idaho. Where's this horse heaven you call home? The real world isn't quite as nice or cheap as you'd like to believe for the rest of us.

Any problems with what I've writen, please send me a PM and I'll give you my ph# so we can talk this out in private.

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Subject: Off Topic....Horses


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Thumper
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Date Posted: 21:21:39 08/22/10 Sun

I started riding at 8yrs old, thank you Hoppy,Roy,Gene and the rest of black and white bunch!!! Through my life I drifted away and then back again cause I never did get my fill. At 40, I went to a Labor Day party and everyone was taking turns riding "Thunder". After my turn I was "Thunderstruck", once again. I'm now 61 and there hasn't been a day in my life since that party without either my, or someone elses horses being a part of it. Whether it's riding, feeding, grooming, doctoring, cleaning stall's, bucking hay it's always something that ties me to the horse that day. I've done 100's of miles trail riding, hours and hours starting and training, day's in arenas showing, beacoup miles driving cow's and in every conceivable weather condition. Again, I'm 61 and after suffering any and all physical insults a horse can perpatrate on you, I'm still in love!! However, at this point, riding isn't as important as it once was. This was my "stall cleaning epiphany" this morning. I go out to the barn and they nicker when they see me. I've never been one to train with treats either with my horses or dogs', so I know the gentle nicker is an honest welcome and sign of recognition. I let them out of their paddocks after their morning meal, and they mill around me taking turns being scratched on the butt, or behind the ears, or where ever they need a good scratch or rub, usually it's never enough so I have to shoo them away to get on with my chores. When I ride them, after years in the saddle it's as natural as walking on my own legs. I love to watch them walk away and check for any soreness in their gaits. I know when they're going to roll and where they'll do it. They'll do it with me in close proximity. This is a huge sign of trust and over the years I've earned their's and they've earned mine. I wondered a while back how long this love affair and shoveling of money into a bottomless pit (approx #3000.00 per horse per year, if they stay healthy), will continue. Well I figured it out today, till I can no longer, ride them, see them, smell them, touch them or sense their presence. For me the old addage is true beyond measure, "The outside of a horse is good for the inside of a man".

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Subject: Dave, Savage Question


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Thumper
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Date Posted: 02:59:03 08/21/10 Sat

Do your chambers have a groove in them about 1/4in below the top? And do you suppose they are a marker (measuring line), for free pouring your powder?

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Subject: By the Way Happy Friday Nite


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Smokin_Gun (thirsty)
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Date Posted: 20:59:21 08/20/10 Fri

I'm buyin' at Fuzzy's Saloon...I'll be there and I'll be here. Yup I'm there & here I can tell by the cold beer that's near that I'm here at Fuzzy's Saloon. :O)
http://blackpowdersmoke.com/oldcoots/index.php?board=15.0

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Subject: interesting read


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Dave
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Date Posted: 19:33:41 08/20/10 Fri

I found this in My Favorites, tucked away. Pretty cool if you have some extra time to read it.
http://users.rcn.com/bobrecht/tobias/PDFs/Naval_Scene.pdf

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Subject: Q on Hodgdon H-110 Smokeless


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Smokin_Gun (wonderin')
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Date Posted: 19:19:34 08/20/10 Fri

Has anyone tried Smokeless cowboy loads with Hodgdon H-110 in .38SPL or .45Colt? Seems I acquired some and was jus' wonderin' about it, and any good results or not.

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Subject: A Must Watch


Author:
S4B
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Date Posted: 17:22:39 08/20/10 Fri

Pass this on to all you know.

http://atorchwithnoflame.com/

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Subject: Was a Shotgun Kinda Day


Author:
Smokin_Gun (everyday is :O)
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Date Posted: 10:39:34 08/20/10 Fri

Felt like takin' hold of a couple shotguns. A 12ga SxS Savage, and a 10ga Pedersoli SxS BP Muzzle stuffer.
Also some compairative pics Like the Two ROAs Remington and Ruger :O) Also jus' some old Revs a mine.

See some pics Page 2

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Subject: middlesex village trading co.


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fuzzy
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Date Posted: 07:33:23 08/20/10 Fri

i clked on a link posted at the top of this VOY page.
chk out this one >
http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/PBB.shtml

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Subject: arbor stabilized for pack hardening


Author:
Dingoburger
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Date Posted: 22:42:33 08/19/10 Thu

pic below for anyone interested in the pack case hardening and stabilizing the arbor during critical temp.

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Subject: Walker


Author:
fuzzy
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Date Posted: 10:30:01 08/19/10 Thu

I just got off the phone w/ a very longtime friend of mine who lives in Montana.
He is going to do some grip work for a guy who collects guns, mostley 1st Gen Colts.
I have also been told he has an original Walker Civilian mdl, that he is going to see that this guy has in his possession. His collection is extensive.
My friend said he will be able to take pics of it, and when he does, he will be sending me some pictures of it.
I don't want to mention any names for privacy reasons.

David J.
I also inquired about my friends recent repro- Walker he just bought. Think he paid $200- for it. but he dont wanna sell it. I had remembered you looking for one, so i thought id just ask about it..

have a good weekend everyone.

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