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Subject: Revolver Search


Author:
Mike
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Date Posted: 21:36:46 07/03/09 Fri
I'm in the market for a BP revolver. I currently own a few in .44 and .36. I would like to find a revolver chambered in .50 to go along with my .50 Hawkin. Anyone know of such a gun? I would appreciate any info. Thanks.

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Subject: Looking for Revolver


Author:
Mike
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Date Posted: 21:19:07 07/03/09 Fri
I'm in the market for a BP revolver. I currently own a few in .44 and .36. I would like to find a revolver chambered in .50 to go along with my .50 Hawkin. Anyone know of such a gun? I would appreciate any info. Thanks.

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Subject: Update on the 1861 Old Army Rem


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 21:11:14 07/03/09 Fri
Parts came from Dixie today... 1) Replaced hand perfect fit 2) Fitted a new trg/stop spring 3) Rem T handle diameter is perfect, the NMA style is shorter overall due to the knotched frame the T handle fits into.
It don't matter I can fit somethin' to that cylinder pin. I have save the photos I was given by a member here.

My 1861 Old Army Rem has been recalled to duty on the Western Frontier... This thing clicks like a new one Tic Toc...all is tight and right :O) pics page2

Also I had a sucessful trigger straigtening on the my Old Colt... pics page 2

Last edited by author: Fri July 03, 2009 16:56:55   Edited 1 time.
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Subject: Get Out Your Drool Cups !!!


Author:
Thumper
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Date Posted: 17:02:53 07/03/09 Fri
I've emailed this guy to see what he would charge to do my antique R&S'
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=133055562

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Subject: Range Report


Author:
K.A.T.
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Date Posted: 17:09:14 07/03/09 Fri
Took my new style bullet to the range with the 1860 I bought from Wayner. Target with 12 rounds with 26grns. of FFF. Pics. on page 2.

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Subject: Buyer beware


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 17:44:42 07/03/09 Fri
Read this gun's description. 'Nuff said.
http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=9208415

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Subject: carry in the old days


Author:
Wayne
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Date Posted: 10:37:10 07/03/09 Fri
Packin a big 44 would be a good thing for sure.......plus a coupla pocket 36's loaded with 20+ gr. fine blackpowder per chamber would make you feel even more secure.

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Subject: For Sale by Ron Long


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 21:32:19 07/02/09 Thu
Three Argentine 1909 15 3/4" BAYONETTES AND SHEATHS SHIPPED $50 EA.
Ron Long
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Are%204%20Sale/BayonettesRonL-1.jpg

Pic also on Page2

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Subject: Have you seen bullets like these?


Author:
K.A.T.
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Date Posted: 21:35:01 07/02/09 Thu
Check out my new bullets, have you seen these before? Pics. on page 2.

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Subject: Tricolor revolver


Author:
open top louis
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Date Posted: 16:17:38 07/03/09 Fri
A few months ago I bought up a bunch of gun parts, Dixie gun works finally sent me the last part (loading lever) only took them 3 months to send one litte part. The barrel is in the white and was made by the Sile company, the blued cylinder is a Pieta, the brass frame has no markings. I like the looks of this multiclored revolver. I'll post a pic on next page, tell me what you think.

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Subject: Happy Fourth


Author:
Ron (Canadian Cowboy)
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Date Posted: 04:30:23 07/03/09 Fri
I'm off to Sacramento for the weekend. You guys have a terrific Independence Day.

Remember, you have a constitution that is over 200 years old, and still 200 years ahead of it's time. Stick to it!

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Subject: Blind Ol Coot finds a nut


Author:
Sundance
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Date Posted: 04:34:08 07/03/09 Fri
Been real busy lately , but took some time out to check out a new toy store here .. ( Jessie James place ) ...I like the name , the new store will be getting alot of my business for reloading supplys and such , and maybe a few toys .
I was looking through the older pistols he has on consignment ...and there it was with a price tag of 325.00,
With that price tag I figure he doesn`t know the history on the pistol so I offer 300.00 cash ... He takes the bait .
I walk out with a 1958 Colt Frontier Scout 22lr , in great shape .
This is called a Duo Tone Frontier Scout chambered in 22lr
Colt only made these for 2 years 1957 and 1958 .
This will be my new snake charmer ...bean can plinker
OK so this isn`t black powder ...but neither is whats his name .....hahaha
Pic on next page .

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Subject: Here you go Fuzzy


Author:
S4B
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Date Posted: 18:05:48 07/02/09 Thu
Check this out.

http://www.amoskeagauction.com/72/auction72T.html

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Subject: 1860 colts


Author:
gerry
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Date Posted: 18:14:27 07/02/09 Thu
have two colts in 44 cal, one is a cva other is pieater thinking about getting fluked cylinders for both.anyone have an idea as to where i could find them

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Subject: 1860 colt


Author:
gerry
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Date Posted: 17:52:49 07/01/09 Wed
thinking about getting fluked cylinder for 44 cal. cva & navy arms colts any input on where to aquire same

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Subject: Michael Jackson vs John Wayne


Author:
David Joo (The good and the bad and the ugly)
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Date Posted: 18:08:44 07/02/09 Thu
I still can not believe we lost Michael Jackson at his age only 51. If he could live 20 more years, think how many more great songs we could enjoy.
Whoever they are giving us pleasures we must thank them. Because, to me, life without happiness is meaningless and not healthy.
Now he became a legend,(in fact, he was already) but nothing to do with BP. Therefore I'd like to talk about "our" legend John Wayne. Do you agree he is the great western movie actor in its history ? It might be not a right question since everyone has different point of view.
When I talk about Western guns, I can not seperate them from the movies. Since I did not live during that time, all the motivation of my interest on Western cowboy action is from the movies. What about you guys ? Perhaps you just natually have the cowboy blood from your father from
grandfather and grand grand. Non me though. I was born and grew up in Korea, but grew up with watching John Wayne, Bonanza and so many other you name it.
But I don't think John made any movie with BP.
Once again, I admire you guys for writing in this forum specially those regular authors such as Smoking gun, Fuzzy, Ron, Dave, Wayne and so on. Somtimes the articles are way too technical, hard to understand but I learn a lot yet enjoy it much. Please have a pride, not many people are interested in Cap & Ball.

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Subject: Pietta 1858 NMA


Author:
Ron (Canadian Cowboy)
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Date Posted: 20:10:28 07/02/09 Thu
Check out GB #132758121. New Pietta 1858 NMA. "Buy Now" is only $175. I bid $130, but 4 days left and I'm going away for the weekend. If you like it, bid on it.

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Subject: Pics & comments of Guns, Holsters. Rigs Cont.


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 14:05:57 07/02/09 Thu
Well I put together a pair of .36's in a rig that I think I can live with.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/GunsNholsters/51NavyPiettaSet2.jpg (see more on it page 2)

Now show me some of yours...

See the Snaggletooth Mallet also Page 2
Mine's see some use ... yep I play with Colts too :O)
Thanks Snaggletooth that's one of the best tools I have ever used...

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Subject: 1851 Navy


Author:
S4B
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Date Posted: 12:40:24 07/01/09 Wed
I have one of these that I'm thinking about selling. It's from Cabela's, called a Confederate model or something. It has white plastic grips with the Southern Cross on them. It's unfired, though turned.
In the 2009 catalog that I just got the other day, there's 2 of them, one with white grips, and one with wood. Other than that I see no real differences, other than $100.00 in price. Both are steel frames.
So what are the differences????

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Subject: Bidding & Sellin on GB


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 18:19:15 06/30/09 Tue
I don't know who's worse?
The guy bidding $1.98, or the guy selling w/ a $40- shipping fee.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=132879659

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Subject: machinists question


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 10:20:13 07/03/09 Fri
Check out this gun. Someone made new parts for it. For those of you with machine shop knowledge, how hard would this actually be?
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/gun_inventory/inventory/lacey/antiques/1224615_savgnavy_lac.jsp?categoryId=SEARCH_gl

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Subject: age and owning a BP revolver.


Author:
murphy
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Date Posted: 21:35:29 06/30/09 Tue
Question,I'm selling a black powder revolver to a fella in oklahoma he is twenty yrs of age.How old should you be to own a BP revolver legally.
Thanks,murphy

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Subject: grips


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 06:16:08 07/02/09 Thu
I went to an antique store in Maine, north off Kittery, south of Cabelas. They had some wooden gun grips in a case. One set was Colt, the other looked very familiar. I called home and had my son take some phone pics of one of my guns and sure enough, they were a match for my Savage & North. $25.00.
Then I went to Cabelas. In the Gun Library they had a Savage & North for $999. The salesman said a guy brought it in to sell because he didn't like guns - the S&N was his grandfathers (or great grandfathers). It had the owner's initials carved on the bottom (KM). Yeah, I'd give that up.
Lee, I stopped at Kittery to look at those ASM 1851 .44s - one was $165, the other was $195. Both brass frames. But there was no one on the selling floor at that time so I didn't get a chance to play with them. But they looked pretty good.

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Subject: NEWS FLASH


Author:
Thumper
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Date Posted: 06:10:43 06/30/09 Tue
MICHAEL JACKSON IS STILL DEAD!!!

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Subject: Pics & comments of Guns, Holsters. Rigs


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 23:00:21 07/01/09 Wed
Started out I was havin' a hard time choosin between a set of White gripped .36's or pair a wood gripped 1851 Revs, a Uberti Navy .36 and a Pietta Navy in .44....
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/GunsNholsters/Rigs1.jpg
What do you think, Like, Carry???

See Pics Page2

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Subject: Not black powder, but...


Author:
Ron (Canadian Cowboy)
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Date Posted: 05:18:00 06/30/09 Tue
June, 2009. Baaaaad month.

David Carradine

Ed McMahon

Farrah Fawcett

Michael Jackson

and now

Billy Mays

Sheesh....I'll be lookin' over my shoulder for the next little while.

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Subject: Not alot available for Original Rems at DGW...


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 18:28:29 06/28/09 Sun
What's In My Cart?


Remove Qty. Product(s) Total

MP1655 Cylinder Pin (repro) for Original Remington .44 Army
- Additional Information: $12.95

TP1576 Trigger and Stop Spring for the Remington Revolver $3.50
TP0120 Trigger & Stop Spring for Rogers and Spencer Revolver $3.50
MP1725 Hand and Spring for Remington Revolver, Spiller & Burr, and Whitney $5.95
MP1826 Hammer Roller for Reproduction Colt 1851 Navy, 1860 Army, 1858 Remington, .36 Navy, & .44 Army Revolver $3.50
MP1827 Hammer Roller Pin for Reproduction Colt 1851 Navy,1860 Army, 1861 Navy, and Remington .36 and .44 Caliber Revolver $3.50
SP1730 Hand Screw for the Remington Revolver, Spiller & Burr $3.50


Sub-Total: $36.40

I'm sure the hand will work ok ... my Euroarms Rems most all parts except the cylinder pin fit the Original Rem. The trg/stop springs none are long enough so I'm ordering a Rodgers and Spencer spring for it.
The 1861 Ren Old Army is most like in fit and feel to the ASP/Euroarms Revs. Uberti is pretty close and Pietta is not as close. The Old Army Rem is heavier and has a larger diameter cylinder that the ASP does same with the Uberti.
A real nice old Rev that's seen some action in the Civil War... fired off some caps and made my day.
If anyone knows of another site to get Reproduction parts for an Original Rem please let me know... I'm gonna sit on the above list a couple days and see what ai come up with.
Thanks

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Subject: 1855 revolving carbine


Author:
Sixgun for fun
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Date Posted: 23:29:22 06/27/09 Sat
Anyone ever see one of these? I've never heard of this firearm until the other day. Very cool!



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Subject: Cabelas 1861 Colt


Author:
Wayne
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Date Posted: 20:20:10 06/27/09 Sat
Anybody have any opinions about the 1861 Colt Cabelas has fer sale? Anyone have one? Thinking about getting one.
I like the long barrel....the steel backstrap and trigger guard and,naturally,the other features the Pietta would have.
I'm kinda a 44 cal. man but I end up with plenty of 36cal. guns.
A 36 can do it. Can be accurate if certain things are proper with the gun.
I like.....36's are easier on the lead supply....easier on the powder supply....fast velosity makes the smaller ball deadly on game and other critters like home invaders busting in on ya.
Ain't killed any home invaders lately but....they enacted the Castle Law in my state of Ohio.
Anyway.....home invaders make good barbequed chops and steaks for the pups.

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Subject: posted at Darksiders and Open Range


Author:
Wayne
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Date Posted: 06:35:35 06/28/09 Sun
Arbor fit issues with 1851 Colt.....replied with a post at the two web sites.
Thought you guys may like to read sumpthin I posted while I was blackballed from the voy.
Maybe you cap&ball revolver aficionados may want to add to the post about the arbor fit of Rolling Thunder's Colt that he was posting.
You guys been messing with arbors and all and probably have some imput.
Anywhoooo.......thought I'd mention it.

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Subject: gun shop


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 08:24:37 06/28/09 Sun
I took a ride over the border into NH and found what could be a new source of BP and antique guns.
First I stopped at an antique shop and bought an antique wooden longbow for $17.00. A new string at Kittery for $6 and I'm an archer again. They measured the pull at Kittery - 55 lbs. Ouch.
Anyhoo, I found a small gunshop in NH that had one Pietta 1860 .44 with a half fluted cylinder and white grips for $275. Overpried in my mind by about $75.00. They have some Hawkins, too but they had quite a collection of cartridge guns from the 1890s. A Springfield trapdoor, Remington .22s (octagonal barrel), pump .22s ,45/70s...all kinds. They also had an antique Colt pocket .22, and what looks like a Smith & Wesson Model #1 or #2 - they can't figure it out. Plus, a Belgian Bulldog revolver. The last three don't have prices yet but I'm going back next week to see what they want for them.

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Subject: Can you identify these?


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 04:37:42 06/27/09 Sat
I'm getting a yard sale together for this weekend.
My brother also picks up free junk furniture on the sides of the road.
So, his friends brought some furniture over my house to sell.
My cousin said there was some bullets in one of the drawers.
I opened the drawer & found a couple .22 RF rifle cartridges, and a couple handgun cartridges. My cousin said they were 9 MM, but I found them differant, and put them immediately in my pocket.

pix nxt pg.

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Subject: Black Balled


Author:
The Shadow
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Date Posted: 12:23:14 06/27/09 Sat
I was black balled from the forum for a few days. Lost and alone I survived.
I'm back now though.
HMMMMM.....what trouble can I start now???????
Hack on Dave....hack on Smoking Gun????? Hack on KAT???? Hack on Krash????? Uncle Lee?????? Let me see.....

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Subject: KRASH


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 06:00:30 06/28/09 Sun
Got a chk today in the mail.
Ya didn't hav'ta..

THX!

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Subject: Agiured an gas furnace from my friend


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 13:51:52 06/27/09 Sat
Besides melting lead it seems it would be jus' right for hot bluing pistols or parts ect... I don't know so I am askin' and showin'.

See pics Page2

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