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Subject: CLEANING BRASS FRAME PIETTA 44 12IN BARREL


Author:
RowdyJ (PISSED)
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Date Posted: 10:03:38 11/13/09 Fri
BEEN SCOURING ARCHIVES FOR CLEANING METHODS DID,NT SEE ANY THAT WOULD HELP ONE OF THE GRNDKIDS HAD TAKENING ONE MY REVOLVERS AND SHOT IT 3 TIMES SNUCK BACK IN THE DRAWER COUPLE WEEKS AGO WELL I HAVE DIS ASSEBLED IT RUST GUNK NEED A METHOD ASAP A WAY TO DO INDOORS IF POSSIBLE WITH OUT USING WATER AND FIXED INCOME FRIENDLY

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Subject: SG 38 cal bullets


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 03:28:48 11/13/09 Fri
I was looking over this site, and I see he has some BP bullets.

http://www.whyteleatherworks.com/

Click on Accessories &
Big Lube(tm) bullets

and then scroll down

38 Snakebite 158 grain sized .358 20.00/250

I like this pocket holster >

http://www.whyteleatherworks.com/Slimjim.jpg

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Subject: Colt 62 Police


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 19:32:09 11/12/09 Thu
http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=31251

chk out the close up pics of the installed cap shield device.

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Subject: Magnets


Author:
Wayne
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Date Posted: 18:26:45 11/12/09 Thu
Bought a magnet for nails at Home Depot. Didn't work to find my latch that popped off the underside of my barrel.
Rented a bigger magnet. After going over the same spot back and forth about thirty times the part finally got pulled up out of the grass.
Glad I found that part becasue I was going to keep looking till I found it no matter how long it took. ha ha ha
Anyway...the big magnet worked.
Now I have to figger a good way to get the part to stay on the barrel.

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Subject: Pietta arbor size


Author:
Howard (HELP HELP)
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Date Posted: 18:13:21 11/12/09 Thu
I just bought a 3 in. Pietta .44 barrel to go on my Pietta 5 1/2in. Army .44. The Arbor hole on the 3 in. barrel is too small, just barely. It looks like a 7/16 in. is the right size. Where do I get a 7/16 drill bit? Do I ream it out myself? Is there some trick to make it fit right I'm not aware of? Do I take it to a machinist to get it drilled out?

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Subject: Arnold Swartz-


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 15:14:30 11/12/09 Thu
He could use a lesson from Austria..isn't that where he is from..?

http://www.nraila.org/Issues/Articles/Read.aspx?ID=72

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Subject: California Shooters


Author:
Uncle Lee
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Date Posted: 14:37:41 11/12/09 Thu
Just got this notice this morning:
"Many of you in California may already be aware, but Gov. Schwarzenegger has signed AB962 into law, which bans most calibers of ammunition from being purchased by mail order or internet sales, requiring nearly all ammo sales in California be face to face with proof of identity, a logbook, and a thumbprint! This law will go into effect in February of 2011, so there is a little time left to stock up before it is enforced. Do not be left out when the ban on mail order purchasing of ammo hits California! Read about this bill here" .
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=5171

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Subject: This auction just ended and they accept credit cards


Author:
Western Sky
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Date Posted: 02:40:54 11/12/09 Thu
Hey Smokin Gun - ya think the 3rd time could be the charm, ha, ha???

Has a few dings on the right side of the grip but none around the wedge. Armi San Marcos imported by CVA.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=145485398

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Subject: Selling My Walker Holster w/Pic Link


Author:
arcom ($35 delivered)
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Date Posted: 02:15:18 11/12/09 Thu
Sold the pistol so I don't need the holster. This is a medium brown horsehide holster mold fitted for the 1847 Walker in excellent condition. It's stamped LH for left hand but I bought it because it works well on either hip. Nice holster for field carry or transport. The inner portion of the flap knob is padded so it won't mar the finish of your pistol.

$35 delivered. Paypal OK.

Copy and paste this link for a pic:

http://cfupload.stevesdomain.net/images/2e14a33cf6.jpg

Thanks for lookin'

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Subject: a sale goin on


Author:
51_60_colt
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Date Posted: 23:32:12 11/11/09 Wed
i was lookin at cabelas website and they have a $30 rebate on any items $150 or above. 19858 Remingtons are 189.99 right now on sale. that makes for a sweet price on a new Remington. Just wanted to tell ya'll.

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Subject: Salute to my Brothers in Arms


Author:
Sundance
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Date Posted: 13:27:55 11/11/09 Wed
Freedom has a high price tag ....
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Subject: In Flanders Fields


Author:
Ron (Canadian Cowboy)
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Date Posted: 07:22:08 11/11/09 Wed
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow.
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

Lt.-Col. John McCrae

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Subject: 1861 Navy Kirst Konvertor Officers' Model


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 22:42:49 11/10/09 Tue
I received my Pietta 1862 Navy Police 5 1/2' bbl cut for a shoulder stock today. Also I received a .38Colt/.38SPL Kirst Konvertor brandy new lookin'.
I love it!
As you'll see in the pics the .38spl with FMJ 130gr Round nose fit the chambers perfectly ... that's American Eagle Ammo. They do not stick out the end of the cylinder like I had been led to believe.
The only thing I have found that needs attention is the half coced position where the bolt head intermitantly pops up into the slot and does not want to drop at halfcock.
(not a big deal)

Now some of you remember a guy that swore by that .38spl round in an 1851 Navy that he converted. Usin' +P .38spl loads with smokeless powder and drove Wayne about nuts sometimes goin' back and forth like I do with him and some of you guys and gals(Col.D):O) and y'all do with me.
Well I got a .38spl now I ain't sayin' I'm gonna do smokeless loads as ya all know I like BP loads in carts and will stick to um.
I wanted one a these systems since the day I met Wags in here in his forum some years ago.
Well "Wags" Ol' Bud I finally got one but about a decade newer. I will carry on the Legacy of the .38Colt and .38spl in the early conversion from the C&B to Cart Guns of .36 caliber.
(ps to Wags, do I need any pointers on givin' Wayne a hard time?)
For those of you who din't know Wags as in "Wags Old Coots" Forum(Owner&Admin), he past some time ago and is still very much missed.
Most of you know what a Warthog Load in in Black Powder Circles. Well Wags was conducting a test of +P loads that went beyond the horizon of any Warthog loads as far as know.
Wayne and Lee and the rest of us couldn't convince him to stop tryin' increased loads. As far as I know Wags probly holds the record for the hottest Smokeless loads from a C&B BP Revolvers. I'm keepin' this one in memory of his devotion to the Colt Navy conversion, this Forum, and us in it.


Thanks Fuzzy it got here quick.
:O)

See Pics Page 2

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Subject: Vid of the Day


Author:
fuzzy
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Date Posted: 18:27:19 11/10/09 Tue
she can hit the broadside of a barn....

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Subject: Walker


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 16:21:40 11/10/09 Tue
I forgot what a fun gun the Walker can be. I used the .457 roundballs, 45 grs of BP and Crisco. The .457s shave a much bigger ring which is easier to find and remove. As the cylinder got dirty the .457s were harder to ram, so I pre-sprayed them with PAM and they slid right in. A few screws on the Walker worked loose every time I shot so I jammed a sliver of wood into the screw holes, then the screw, cranked it down and they didn't move.
For a target I used an old metal ironing board (100 yds). Great target - the legs hold it upright and you can hear the hits but it doesn't get knocked over.
The Walker isn't an every day shooter for me but, dang, they are fun to shoot.

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Subject: brass and smoke poles


Author:
51_60_colt
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Date Posted: 16:14:34 11/10/09 Tue
Does one have to register a richards mason conversion or open top colt .45 is they buy it new? What about kirst conversion? What does it take to do one right?

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Subject: SG


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 15:44:51 11/10/09 Tue
I got your mason jar full of gold coins today.
Thx. I hope you enjoy the new shooter.

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Subject: .457 RB


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 15:11:16 11/10/09 Tue
I want to shoot my Walker or 1860 .44, but all I have for boolitts are .457 roundballs. I know some shooters use them in Walkers, but do they put too much pressure on the loading lever? What about the 1860 Army?

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Subject: Repost


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 08:19:24 11/10/09 Tue
BP cartridges and components>

http://www.gadcustomcartridges.com/

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Subject: Reposted on GB for sale:


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 22:29:38 11/09/09 Mon
Colt 1862 Police 3rd generation series
http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=146220695

Pietta 1860 Army w/ holster rig and accessories
http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=146246237

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Subject: Monthly Shoot & Range Report


Author:
Thumper
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Date Posted: 21:29:04 11/09/09 Mon
First of all, I'd like to wish everyone a pleasant (happy's not an appropriate word) and safe "Veteran's Day", and to thank those who came before me, those who helped me make it through my time in combat, those came after me and those who are currently serving our country to preserve our way of life. THANK YOU ALL!!

Now, on to the most fun I've had with my pants up in a way long time!! Yesterday was our monthly ElkHorn Muzzleloader Shoot. For six months now, I have carried my Rogers & Spencer, waiting for the pistol range to be completed. It finally was, but it wasn't announced in the news letter so I had the only pistol there. Wanting to try out the range, and being too lazy to want to clean two weapons, I decided to do the entire shoot (rifle and pistol),with my pistol only. What a HOOT!! I popped everthing on the pistol range (20-75yds), with a miss at the 75yd target....cleaned it's clock with my second shot though then caught up with the pack just starting the rifle course. It start's with a 20yd "Tie-Breaker", shot, closest to the skull if the other target point's are a tie. Here's a pic of mine along with my R&S (it has a conversion cylinder in it for the pic, but the range was shot using cap and ball only).
http://www.fmtc.com/~tfl1x/R&STieBreaker.jpg
There were 18 target's ranging from 25yds to 140yds...I missed three. Two well with in a 65yd range, and the 140yd target. I still can't figure out why I missed the the first 2, but the far away one, I was under powdered for(22g fff). I kicked dirt on to it twice but ran out of front sight so the went to 30g and over shot it by about 5yds and off to the left for some reason. There were some newbies there and I let them try out the pistol and others let them use their long guns. I didn't punchout my card for each hit, so I didn't place, but out of a group of 12 shooters, by my tally, I would have placed 4th. With Wayner's help on the mechanics and lot's and lot's of practice, I can honestly say, the R&S is my favorite pistol of all time and it WILL be thrown into the coffin with me when I die!!!

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Subject: new project


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 20:21:16 11/09/09 Mon
I went to and outdoor flea market today and sure enough there was someone selling some old rifles. One was a cut-down Allan trapdoor .45-70, and the other was a Whitney .58 rifle (1860s). Nice gun. I was thinking, maybe he doesn't know what he has. It was marked "E.Whitney" like my revolver, it had the original bayonet, it was in great shape...but, damn, he knew exactly what he had. He even had a copy of a Flayderman's page with the gun's description and price range. He wanted $1200 for it but he'd "haggle." Anyhoo, I ended up buying a Traditions .50 Hawkins kit rifle, completely unassembled and unfinished for $100. I'm gonna "Dave" the hell out of it.

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Subject: Snakebite(Centaure)


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 20:17:41 11/09/09 Mon
I don't know why I din't think a this before? ... I was lookin' thru my BP paperwork and found the letter you sent me with SN767 Snakebite Wayne. You sent it to me mentioning that possibly a taller site may be wanted to give a better view of the site picture.
I couldn't see the Trees thru the forest on this one till I read that letter again. My eyes were afixed on a rear barrel low profile v notch site.
I'll try addin' onto or another front site first, and if istill need to or want the rear bbl moutnt site I can add later. Glad I keep everythin' important that's mailed to me.
Let me know what ya think ...

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Subject: ASM Walker with Colt address on barrel


Author:
Western Sky
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Date Posted: 14:24:19 11/09/09 Mon
In a recent post people were talking about the old pre-lawsuit Armi San Marco Colt repros with Colt addresses on the barrel. I had an Old Walker like that.

Here is one on gun Broker. Too bad it was imported by Richland Arms, because they put their name on the side of the barrel.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=146224759

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Subject: Dodged a bullet for now; and an arbor lesson for BP newbies.


Author:
Western Sky
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Date Posted: 21:23:57 11/08/09 Sun
After my Rainy Range Day post below, some said the Pietta Starr and Hartford 1860 looked real good, and said the Hartford shot good too. After I cleaned the 1860 frame and was drying it, I thought I felt something strange with the arbor. I had tried to wiggle the arbor when I first got the gun, but now I tried to turn it, like screwing/unscrewing it. Dang, Double Dang and #%^@ Dangit! The arbor could turn . . . it was loose. Not up and down or side to side sloppy, but a tiny bit of a turn loose. Tiny but THERE, and can only get worse.

First thought on why I can't fix it: The arbor locking pin needs to be drilled out with a drill press after the frame is secured at the proper angle; the arbor unscrewed and maybe some locktight or other agent applied to the threads and screwed back in lining up the holes just right; and then a new locking pin custom made out of pin stock or drill stock driven in....#%^@

However (smile) I also thought/hoped that since this arbor is in great shape and the tiny bit the arbor can be turned is the space between the locking pin's sides and the arbor hole's sides - maybe with an extra pair of hands holding the frame, The arbor locking pin can be pin-punched driven down to wedge up that arbor hole enough to last a good while longer.

OK, to wrap up the story, my gunsmith agreed that was a good possibility and we did just that. The arbor was made tight again. It made me nervous when my gunsmith put a big screwdriver in the arbor front slot and cranked it in both directions, but it held. He said go shoot it and just check the arbor after each time out. Also, don't overtighten the wedge like some do. Unlike a tapered arbor, this Pietta has a straight arbor and once the barrel lug is tight against the frame (and no slop between arbor sides and barrel arbor hole) the left side of the wedge pressing against the forward side of the arbor slot is trying to pull the arbor forward a bit, putting stress on the arbor's seating in the frame.

So, last night I was depressed but this afternoon I was happy again. Time will tell how long this fix will last on a shooter. So for newbies reading this, remember my experience on this fix but be advised, this was an arbor/frame in excellent condition where the arbor could just turn a tiny amount. Needless to say my gunsmith didn't charged me anything, since it took less than 2 minutes to fix, ha, ha, ha.

After Fuzzy's recent experience, this is a story to warm Smokin Gun's heart. Talk about a big-time relief-pill; "I feel good" as the song goes.

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Subject: American History in Video > Free Vids


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 20:03:27 11/08/09 Sun
I found this site posted at another gun forum.
lots of documentries that can be watched full screen on your PC, for free viewing.

Here is one link to a video.
Antietam >

http://ahivfree.alexanderstreet.com/View/516805

Browse video's
http://ahivfree.alexanderstreet.com/Browse

Home page>

http://ahivfree.alexanderstreet.com/


Search the site and you will find many subjects.

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Subject: Rained out at the range, but got 5 cylindersfull in


Author:
Western Sky
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Date Posted: 18:52:48 11/07/09 Sat
Cloudy, dark and light drizzle, but took my Starr single action and Pietta Hartford 1860 to the range.

The Starr shot very high. I thought maybe I'd put the target and board at the back berm twice and aim at the bottom of the target, but missed the target completely both times. This Starr shoots really high. Also saw a lot of flash from the back of the cylinder and felt puffs of air on my face. Reduced my 25 grain load to SG's recommended 22 grains for the 2nd cylinderfull, but wasn't much different.

Then it started drizzling heavy, so I hurried up and switched to the 1860 which also shot a bit high. It cleared up while shooting the 1860 and the target was almost dry (because I'm a real slow reloader), but on the 3rd cylinder it started raining so I called it quits. By the time I was loaded up in the car it started coming down, ha, ha.

Stopped at Windy's for some chile con carne, fries and a Pepsi - got my dose of salt, surgar, caffein, grease, etc and headed home.

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Subject: Uberti Remington 1858 NMA. or Colt 1861 Navy ?


Author:
Waco (Scotland) (undecided)
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Date Posted: 18:00:14 11/07/09 Sat
I am about to buy a black powder pistol for target shooting here in Scotland. I have been taking my time and going through the net looking for info and advice on which pistol and or make to buy.
I have narrowed my choice down to either the Remington 1858 NMA or the Colt 1861 Navy colt both in .36 cal and both made by Uberti. But, Ihave heard that the are some problems with the Remington with the cylinder spindle clogging up after very few shots being fired. Basically what I am looking for is some views and / or advice on the better buy of the two.

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Subject: Day at the Range


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 17:41:51 11/07/09 Sat
Well Ron and I got out to the Range today in the Angeles National Forest ... after shootin' the breeze and lookin' and the 1968 Python, a S&W .32rim, a gun that should be mine by all rights a USFA Colt 1873 .45Colt 4 3/4"bbl...
Page 2 has pics and dialogue ... these pics will take me a spell.

Also for those on dial up, please tell me if the the "Direct Link" would be better than HTML hull pics showing to view pics for you when there are multiples...
Thanks

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Subject: Want to trade............


Author:
Craig
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Date Posted: 15:27:32 11/07/09 Sat
Hello, I have a box of 100 plus hornday .454 lead balls. I do not have my mould yet and need some .380 balls for my '61 Colt. Anyone interested in an even up trade. My 100 plus 454's for a 100 of your 380's? Thanks, Craig

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Subject: My stuff on GB


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 10:44:55 11/07/09 Sat
A couple BP revolvers listed by me for sale.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=145887321

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=145888015

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