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Subject: Assie TH Walker


Author:
Thumper
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Date Posted: 04:49:13 09/16/09 Wed
Did the title get your attention? Good. I've been workin' with a gent named Tony from Australia to make a Walker w/ shoulder stock and 16" bbl (we're well known w/ folks over on THR). Unfortunately he has a brain tumor that is most likely fatal so the project is dead. He purchased this gun for the project, but since the medical problem has happened his wife would like to liquidate his gun assets. It is an unfired, no roll mark, safety pin intact, commerative Texas Ranger ASM Walker w/ faux ivory handles. As a commerative, it is devoid of most all Italian proof marks. For $300.00, I'll ship it priority and insured to your address. Any offers over $275.00 will be looked at seriously. No $$ for me, he paid $292.00 on GB for it. Pic's below. By the way, on THR there is a guy named "arcticap" that has other cased commeratives (not all Walkers), of Tony's for sale, Thanks, Roland
http://www.fmtc.com/~tfl1x/TonyW1.jpg
http://www.fmtc.com/~tfl1x/TonyW2.jpg
http://www.fmtc.com/~tfl1x/TonyW3.jpg
http://www.fmtc.com/~tfl1x/TonyW4.jpg

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Subject: ALERT - California Ammo Ban


Author:
Carl
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Date Posted: 04:46:09 09/16/09 Wed
Forwarded to me from a friend in Calabasas.

Don't just think that because it is in California it has no impact on you. California is merely a little bit farther down the road to a Marxist Left-Wing Hell than the other states.

This crap has gotta be fought tooth and nail at every opportunity.

Carl
Badger Lake, WA

Folks,

From the NRA: Ammo Bill Going to the Governor!

Late last night AB 962, the Ammunitions Sales Restrictions bill, was approved by the Senate on a 21 to 18 vote. It was then sent back to the Assembly for concurrence.

Today the Assembly approved the bill on a 44 to 31 vote. It now goes to the Governor.

Please contact the Governor's office and urge him to VETO AB 962. Contact information is listed below.

Please both CALL and email the Governor. We need to turn on the pressure!

Remember to ask the Governor to also VETO SB 585, the Cow Palace gun show ban.

Lastly, please share this information with every firearm owner, shooter, hunter, gun range and gun club that you know and ask them to help kill these bills.

AB 962 (Kevin De León, D-Los Angeles; Bonnie Lowenthal,
D-Long Beach) – Ammunition Sales Restrictions – Even as amended, this bill would still place onerous restrictions on the purchase of ammunition. It would require all vendors to store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to buyers. It would require buyer registration and fingerprinting at the point of purchase. It would ban gun show, mail order and Internet sales.

SB 585 (Mark Leno-D San Francisco) – Firearm Sales at the
Cow Palace – This bill would prohibit the sale of firearms and ammunition at the Cow Palace. It is also the first step in banning gun shows on all publicly owned property in California.

How to contact the Governor:

The Honorable Arnold Schwarzenegger
Governor of California
State of California
State Capitol Building
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 445-2841
Fax: (916) 558-3160 (new number)
Email: http://gov.ca.gov/interact%23email (this is a link to
the Governor's website email page)

Sending an email to the Governor is a two-step process. Please read the instructions on the page that opens when you use the email link.

"Get the News to Protect Your Freedom" at www.gunnewsdaily.com

To join this alert list, send an email to sdrra-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Thank You!
Jim - San Diego Rifle and Revolver Association

Last edited by author: Mon September 14, 2009 08:08:22   Edited 1 time.
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Subject: Special engraved 1861 shootin report


Author:
Wayne
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Date Posted: 14:15:57 09/15/09 Tue
I took the Engraved revolver I bought and posted some pics of,out and tested how it shot. It shot good. Pretty dang good.
I aimed at a tomatoe about the size mid way between a golf ball and a tennis ball at 29 paces. First shot went right over the top barely missing. Second shot wacked it with that center shot sound of "PLAT". Next four shots at the center of the red spot left there went into a groove in the dirt less than an inch wide.
Anyway it shoots as good as it looks. I tried some bench shots and I'll show a pic. I was shooting at the picnic bench in the wooded area where I couldn't see real good. Target below. All the Shoot'N'See targets I shot from the bench were close to the same size groups. The targets are 5.5 inches wide.

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Subject: unfired 1864 Springfield


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 09:14:46 09/15/09 Tue
I went back to see the unfired Springfield and get more info. It looks better than I remembered. Still alot of blue on the metal. It's stamped NJ in one spot and TRENTON in another. The tag on it says it was issued to a guard unit but never fired. Still $2800.
Then a "salesman" came over (this is an antique shop), a Civil War "expert". After he told me about the gun (everything that was written on the tag) I asked if he had any Colt BP revolvers. He said, "You want a Remington, not a Colt. Colts are crap and they have that stupid wedge. They used to throw the Colts in the mud and grab a Remington."
Anyhoo, I told him what I thought then I walked away (lots of glass objects in this place).
So, I did not get any pics.
Beautiful gun, though. I think they might come down on the price.

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Subject: Nothin to do with BP...funny youtube vid


Author:
51_60_colt
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Date Posted: 07:45:01 09/15/09 Tue
hey ya'll...just wanted to post sumthin funny i ran across today. i know its mean but...it made me laugh. Not gun or BP related. :O)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL6_Qaj7gtc&feature=PlayList&p=73C37C19D719A32D&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=21

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Subject: what is it?


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 22:29:54 09/14/09 Mon
Can anyone ID this item? I know what it really is...
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=139645712

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Subject: Let's trade parts kits


Author:
murph
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Date Posted: 12:37:47 09/14/09 Mon
I have one new replacement parts kit for a pietta army or navy 1851,60,61 revolver.I would like to trade it for a pietta Remington 1858 parts kit.

Thanks,murph

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Subject: Bridgeport milling machine $1500


Author:
Ron (Bridgeport milling machine)
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Date Posted: 12:30:52 09/14/09 Mon
Very nice Bridgeport milling machine,vert head has 1/2 morse taper, 220 single phase converter with #3 Becker base very heavy.3 chucks for spindle,set and 1/2 collets and other cutters.must pickup and haul appox. wt 3000 lbs. $1500 also has Bridgeport vice on table.

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Subject: Free Parts!


Author:
K.A.T.
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Date Posted: 08:51:14 09/14/09 Mon
That's right free parts! I bought some used RCBS reloading equipment and they have made some changes to update their case trimmers. The adjuster on the case trimmer to set the lenght now has minute markings on it to help you control the settings. I called to order some new set screws and the new adjuster and was told no charge, the parts are on the way. There was really nothing wrong with what I had, I just wanted to update to make it easier, they have a life time warranty so I guess they want to keep their customers happy. Wow, what a novel idea, keeping your customers happy, why has this idea not caught on with other companys.

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Subject: Remington Conversion for sale


Author:
Dennis
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Date Posted: 12:00:43 09/13/09 Sun
I don't want to sell this gun, but financial circumstances demand that I do. This is a Remington .44 cal. New Model Army with a 5.5" barrel and also includes a Kirst .45 Colt cylinder conversion. No ffl required. I am asking $375 shipped in the contiguous USA. Will accept postal money orders or Paypal only. A part trade can be acceptable...interested only in Colt type .31 cal. revolvers, or Colt type .36 5 shot revolvers.

Dennis

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Subject: Backyard Rev Sale


Author:
Smokin_Gun (this hurts)
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Date Posted: 11:22:34 09/13/09 Sun
I'm havin' try sell these 12 deciples of mine ... only cause I gotta. I hope somebody will like these as much as I have.
It's jus' that I'm runnin' outta time and money so this is kind my last resort.
I'm postin' these here first in hope of seein' them enjoyed still.

Anyway see the list and some pics on page2 more pics available on request. I'll eat the shipping if need be.

Thanks for lookin' my friends,
SG

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Subject: Trap Doors


Author:
Sundance
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Date Posted: 20:13:22 09/12/09 Sat
I`ve got the bug to buy a 45/70 Trapdoor again ....someone talk me out of it .
I have heard alot of pros and cons ....
I only shoot black powder cartdriges so I don`t think the weak action will be a problem for me .
I`ve never heard of anyone haveing a problem useing the powder these guns were made to handle ..( Black )
I want a Cavalry model ..looking at 2 one made by H&R the other Pedersoli .....anyone had any experience with these ?

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Subject: 145 yr old virgin


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 20:12:01 09/12/09 Sat
No, not Cork. I saw a Springfield 1863 rifle (marked 1864) in a shop last week that might be unfired. The shop owner said that he was selling it for a friend who had a Springfield collection and was going through a divorce. He said that as far as he knew it was unfired. He dropped a small flashlight backwards down the barrel and I gotta say, it looked brand new in there. The stock had a few dings on it but the barrel and metal still had alot of color to it. It definitely wasn't a repro - it looked old, but unfired. How could that be?
He was asking $2800 for it which really isn't bad considering the condition.
Maybe I'll go back and get some pics.

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Subject: Melting lead.


Author:
K.A.T.
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Date Posted: 20:10:33 09/12/09 Sat
Spent the day making lead, pics. on page 2.

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Subject: Weather Guard truck box new


Author:
Ron (new weather guard truck box)
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Date Posted: 05:23:17 09/12/09 Sat
new Weather Guard model 116 saddle box,full size truck model sold new $600 still new just $350 e-mail can send picture sell $350

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Subject: Cowboy's Ten Commandments


Author:
madcratebuilder
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Date Posted: 04:44:46 09/12/09 Sat
Cowboy's Ten Commandments posted on the wall at Cross Trails Church in Fairlie, Texas:
(1) Just one God.
(2) Honor yer Ma & Pa.
(3) No telling tales or gossipin'.
(4) Git yourself to Sunday meeting.
(5) Put nothin' before God.
(6) No foolin' around with another fellow's gal.
(7) No killin'.
(8) Watch yer mouth.
(9) Don't take what ain't yers.
(10) Don't be hankerin' for yer buddy's stuff.

Y'all git all that?

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Subject: Flap holester...how they were worn during the civil war


Author:
51_60_colt
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Date Posted: 23:45:46 09/11/09 Fri
How did CS soldiers wear the flap holester during the war of Yankee aggression? ;O) I is thankn bout gettin one, wanna make sure I get the correct side etc. thanks ya'll!!

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Subject: '51 Navy Frame


Author:
Howard
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Date Posted: 17:37:43 09/11/09 Fri
Anyone here be willing to trade a solid '51 Navy steel frame for two brass frames? I made a short barrel pistol out of what appears to be a Pietta frame XX8 proof date. I want one that will last me longer as I plan to shoot it alot. I also have an old Uberti frame that I can throw in too. If not trade maybe sell one?

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Subject: 3 original pistols on Auction Arms


Author:
K.A.T.
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Date Posted: 14:48:53 09/11/09 Fri
There are 3 original pistols on Auction Arms, they are not under Black Powder they are in the everything page at the top, or just under auctions. There is an 1858, one 1849, and a Cooper Navy DOUBLE ACTION. Prices are right, right now, good looking guns, worth looking at. Check them out.

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Subject: operational aspects


Author:
Wayne
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Date Posted: 08:32:07 09/11/09 Fri
The engraved Special Edition 1861 Navy I picked up.....
It's set up to be a shooter. Trigger is creep free. Rear sight is lowered. Hammer spaced at the nose so it comes up to the nipples close but doesn't hit....dry fire safe. Bore drilled thru the barrel at a slight cant downward...centered but cants dowward thru the barrel.Shallow rifling to affect a good seal. Chambers aligned well to the bore.
All in all it should be a real good shooter besides being a real work of art with French Grey frame and hammer and profuse engraving done very masterful.
It's a trip looking at real master work in engraving. The smallest details a marvel in tool control.

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Subject: When the doorbell doesn't work


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 08:22:05 09/11/09 Fri
SG, you need one of these >

http://www.joesalter.com/detail.php?f_qryitem=12835

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Subject: Warnin' ... postin' this as a request.


Author:
Smokin_Gun (Request to post for Jerry)
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Date Posted: 17:11:22 09/10/09 Thu
SG....I WANT YOU TO POST THIS ON THE FORUM..

I FIRST LOOKED AT I THOUGHT THAT WAS YOU IN THERE AND I'M STILL NOT POSITIVE THAT IT'S NOT YOU !!!


See Pic Page 2

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Subject: SG


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 17:09:46 09/10/09 Thu
Check out this Starr
clk on pics for bigger image

http://www.csacquisitions.com/cgi-bin/Display_Item.asp?1448

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Subject: The Last old western gun


Author:
David Joo (The good, the bad and the ugly)
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Date Posted: 13:50:20 09/10/09 Thu
I am well aware, this is BP forum, but I am sure of that most of you also like the cartridge generation such as Colt SAA since they are all in "old western gun" category.

The question is what is the boundary between old western gun and the modern guns ? Is that between single and double action ? I've seen double action in Colt SAA figure.
Some said S&W's Schofield is the last old Western gun, since it has sensational top break mechanism for fast reloading. Is it true ?

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Subject: Backyard BP Rev Sale ~Link~ cont.


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 08:51:14 09/10/09 Thu
http://voy.com/60048/65913.html

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Subject: I'm always broke


Author:
madcratebuilder
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Date Posted: 08:39:20 09/10/09 Thu
I wounder if they would trade for a Corvette?

http://www.gunsamerica.com/957610554/Guns/Pistols/Muzzleloading-Pre-1899-Pistols/LEMAT_GRAPESHOT_REVOLVER_10_63MM_63.htm

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Subject: Smoking Gun


Author:
RowdyJ
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Date Posted: 00:09:12 09/10/09 Thu
did you do any military time in the present half a century

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Subject: Colt Navy 1851


Author:
fuzzy
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Date Posted: 17:05:33 09/09/09 Wed
vid nxt pge >

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Subject: Well I was so ticked off about missing the bid on that Belgian . . .


Author:
Westernsky
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Date Posted: 08:26:13 09/09/09 Wed
I just bought this little .36 cal with custom grip. It's all I could afford anyway.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=138813197

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Subject: Smokin_Gun


Author:
Pvt. Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 12:29:46 09/08/09 Tue
Pvt. Fuzzy requests Old Coot's roll call for September 1862

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Subject: Smoking Gun


Author:
RowdyJ (worried)
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Date Posted: 19:45:10 09/07/09 Mon
you not about to make that trip to the bp firing range up above yet? are you

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Subject: Special Deluxe Presentation Grade


Author:
Wayne
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Date Posted: 11:53:04 09/07/09 Mon
I saw a hand engraved 1861 Navy in the Presentation grade yesterday at the "Swappers Meet" in Johnstown,Ohio.
It's hand engraved about 75% to 85%. It looked like one of those Special Versions built on rare occassions in Italy but I can't really tell if it is. May be a custon job by someone here in the states.
The trigger guard and backstrap were steel and finished in a dark beautiful burgandy-dark plum bluing with the engraving of course. Never saw that color bluing on a gun before. The barrel and cylinder have a bluing that shows blue in the black in the light.
The frame was totally engraved in the beautiful Nimseski(spell) style scrolls and tight small shade lines background. Loading lever had some engraved knurle on it and some scrolls. Barrel engraved with plenty of scrolls design.
There was "GOLD" inlay lines at the muzzle and around the back edge of the cylinder and designs on the barrels sides about mid way. Looked like real gold since it was not tarnished and was still really shiny.
It was a really beautiful 1861 Navy with perfect timing and alignment(little flashlite with me at the swappers meet).
Anywhoooo....I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that gun on the table with other used guns there at the Swappers Meet.
I almost traded my wife for the gun since it cost a good penny.Decided that I hadn't eaten supper yet and may want to do the Humty Bumpty later so I kept her and didn't trade her for the gun. It is custonary for a Mountain Man to trade off a sqauw for a good gun now and then. ha ha ha
Anyway I just thought I'd mention what I saw. The Special Engraved Presentation Grade 1861 Navy was the only cap&baller I saw there yesterday the few hours I was there. Didn't cover the whole grounds since it was big and so much to look at.

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