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Subject: This Spiller&Burr looks like mine? ...


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 20:48:14 10/02/09 Fri
I never have known the Mfg. of mine ...whadda ya thimnks they look close?

RARE- EARLY MFG. = 1974,VERY CLEAN, SPILLER AND BURR, MADE BY RICHLAND ARMS COMPANY
http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=140841715

mine
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/AUGUST2009/CSAGuns7.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Are%204%20Sale/SpillerBurr.jpg

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Subject: Ivory Anyone


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Sundance
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Date Posted: 11:04:36 10/02/09 Fri
Check it out ...also check out sellers other auctions there is more Ivory ..some smaller pieces ...good prices .
http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=141349977

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Subject: An old thread I ran across on E.N. Santa Barbaras


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 09:29:34 10/01/09 Thu
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1876441

Last edited by author: Tue September 29, 2009 22:58:05   Edited 1 time.
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Subject: Grips Finished


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 04:39:15 10/01/09 Thu
px nxt pg >

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Subject: Rec'd good news in the Mailbox today...


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 17:58:53 09/30/09 Wed
The Social Security Administration let me know that:

Notice of Attorney Advisor Decision - Fully Favorable

11. The claimant has been under disability as defined in the Social Security Act since May 30, 2008, the alleged onset of disability (20CFR 404.1520)

Decision
Based on the application for a period of disability and disability insurance benifets filed on November 4, 2008, the claimant has been disabled under sections 216(i) and 223(d) of the Social Security Act since May 30, 2008.

Workin' on my retirement pension next.. :O)

It was a good day.

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Subject: Pietta BP Revolvers


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 13:58:51 09/30/09 Wed
Pietta guns.
Clk on pics

http://www.pietta.us/products/Muzzleloadinguns/Army/gallery/index.html

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Subject: Pearl Color Grips


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 11:33:48 09/30/09 Wed
Been working on my set of rough unfinished grips for my Colt pocket model.

Pics nxt pge.

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Subject: Messing with another Centaure 1860 Army


Author:
Wayne
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Date Posted: 08:27:43 09/30/09 Wed
I had to de-rust the cylinder which had enough light rust to strip it. Unstick 6 stuck nipples. Lower the arbor that canted up and made it all but impossible to get the barrel on once taken off. The arbor actually had to be flexed downward to get the barrel on. That loosened it some too. Straightened it so the barrel goes on easy and tightened it up.I first had to remove it and it's lock pin.
There's more to do but I'll get to it someday soon I hope. It's a nice Centaure and was described as excellent condition. Was it. No. Will it be. Hope so. Pic next pg.

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Subject: The Hobby Gunsmith


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 08:04:21 09/30/09 Wed
http://www.hobbygunsmith.com/Archives/Feb04/Feature.htm

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Subject: New found use for B/P Subs


Author:
Sundance
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Date Posted: 07:34:01 09/30/09 Wed
I just recieved a call from one of my B/P Club members .
He has wanted a Mortar for a long time , well he dropped the pelts and bought one .
big bore , beer can chunker .
Well this news lit the fuse in my mind as to how to properly dispose of all the B/P subs I have .
I quit useing anything but the real deal back a few years ago and ended up with five 1 lb jugs of the subs ..all kinds .( many flavors )
So I can`t think of a better way , and help the guy out with his need for more power .
If I can remember to take the camera , I`ll give a nice range report on chunking beer cans into orbit ...this should be fun .....more comming soon .

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Subject: Pair of 1860 colts


Author:
Bo T
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Date Posted: 18:23:45 09/29/09 Tue
SG-thanks for the advice on checking out the colts. I checked out the pair of 1860 colts. They are Piettas. They had been left loaded in the basement when the owner passed away. The gentleman who was selling them for his widow said he tried to fire them but only 2 chambers went off. They were in very good condition on the outside and looked tight. They were brass trimmed with white grips. One cylinder wouldn't lock on one chamber and the other cylinder locked up completely while I was cycling the action. The nipples were corroded. Since I don't have any experience repairing them and I didn't want to offend the seller with a low offer, I let them pass.

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Subject: New Stock for the Sharps


Author:
K.A.T.
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Date Posted: 09:35:39 09/29/09 Tue
I finally finished my Claro Walnut stock for my Sharps. It is a piece of quarter sawn Claro Walnut from Northern Cal. The quarter sawn is the way they turn the wood to cut it, that is what gives the wood the stripes. The Claro Walnut is a very porus Walnut, it had a lot of pores that had to be filled before the finishing process could begin. I found a product that is called Pilkington's Classic Gun Finish that worked really well for filling the pores. You put this finish on and lightly wet sand the wood and it fills the pores with the dust and liquid. It takes about 4 times of wet sanding to fill all the pores. Once all the pores is filled then you can start to finish the stock to suit your taste. I took this stock all the way to a Gloss finish, it looked like it had been dipped in liquid glass. I finally decided on a low gloss or satin finsh and took it back down to that level of shine. The gloss finish really did show off the grain and stripes in the wood, but it didn't look good on the sharps, it just looked too modern for the rifle. I played with a lot of different finishes and done a lot of experiments. I wasn't in a hurry so I used this project to learn and try diffent products and procedures.

Pics. on page 2 and 3.

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Subject: Heavy Rig with back support ...


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 23:29:43 09/28/09 Mon
Heavy duty single or double rig can carry up to a Dragoon & a Walker.
Belt is a lifting belt and does make a bg differance when strollin' thru the Desert or Mountains afoot for a ways.

See pics Page 2

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Subject: Black Powder Shooters Pics from the Past


Author:
Smokin_Gun (Post um up fer fun)
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Date Posted: 12:22:52 09/28/09 Mon
Post some old pics if ya like ... got a bunch from my Brother Tim in Austrailia on Facebook.

See pics page 2

Post some a yers...

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Subject: pretty cool antiques


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 12:09:27 09/28/09 Mon
I found a shop in NH with some pretty cool originals. One was an 1860 .44 in original nickel finish. All matching numbers but no address or cylinder scene due to the nickel finish. Selling for about $1100.
They also had a cased 1849 with the history of the owner. The gun was in pretty tough shape and it was missing the cylinder, but included in the accessories was a chunk of gold from the CA Gold Rush. Over $2000.
They had a Sharps carbine in great shape - $2200.
A Pond cartridge revolver for $500.
An Enfield Tower rifle that was used at Gettysburg (of course) and a picture of the original Yankee (you know, the side that won) owner in unifrom - $1900.
I also saw a copy of Beldens HISTORY OF THE COLT REVOLVER at another store for $25. Perfect condition. In fact, I might go back and get that book. I'd like to get some of those guns, too but...

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Subject: Ron & Sue's Wedding


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 12:02:40 09/28/09 Mon
Witnessed a beautiful Outdoor Weddin' today in Redlands, CA ... where Ron & Sue were married ...
What a Great couple and relatives to go along with it.I had a time like I hadn't in years ... hell I was up on the dance floor movin' to the groovin' along with Ron, Ron Bond(he looks great in a tux) :O)
By the way somehow I was at a table with four lovely ladies...friends of Sue.
Well I had a great time and have a garter ta boot... I hope you enjoy a few pics and a movie clip as I tried to capture some of the moments.

See Pics Page2

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Subject: Anyone want that nice .36 cal with a short arbor?


Author:
Western Sky
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Date Posted: 08:10:28 09/28/09 Mon
The seller said he wouldn't accept a return on such a fine gun. He said I should contact Pietta if I had a question on acceptable tolerances, ha, ha. I bet Madcratebuilder could fix up this little guy in jiffy.

So anyone want to buy this for my original Gun Broker auction bid of $176, which includes shipping to you. That means I am out the shipping cost from the seller to me Plus the shipping from me to you.

Next page has the 3 photos I copied from the original auction.

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Subject: Reload BP shotshells


Author:
Morg
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Date Posted: 23:31:17 09/27/09 Sun
I want to get started reloading black powder shotshells, Do any of you experienced old timers have any suggestions as to equipment/techniques? I reload smokeless pistol only at present and have no shotshell equipment. I have an 1897 Winchester and 1898 Marlin 12 ga and an old rolling block 20 ga.

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Subject: Got my Gun Broker pretty Pietta today. Hope I can get a refund.


Author:
Western Sky
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Date Posted: 11:18:04 09/27/09 Sun
Received my .36 cal Pietta today. 6 chambers align with the bore, just a few handling marks where someone had trouble gettting the wedge out before. Sticky from dried out grease but lookin good. Turns out the arbor front was over 3/32" shorter than the barrel arbor hole, providing no support except on the arbor sides and the two front frame studs (which aren't very tight).

I've just been through something of a nightmare with a brand new Pietta 1860 that I got on sale at Cabelas. I didn't return it, because I thought it was a challenge and good kitchen table gunsmithing practice. Been tellin my troubles to Wayne about everything I ran into with that one, asking advice. I don't give guns names, but I decided to call my Cabelas on sale 1860 . . . EL DIABLO.

So I don't feel like messin with the arbor on this one. I would have my gunsmith weld some steel on the front of the arbor and then file it down bit by bit until it was right - but I've done it before and I don't feel like doin' it again right now. I'm calling it quits on this one before it sucks me in, ha, ha.

The listing didn't say anything about returns. I hope they'll take it back, because El Diablo plum wore me out for now.

Photos next page

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Subject: Vote of confidence


Author:
Wayne
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Date Posted: 09:59:05 09/27/09 Sun
Got a nice compliment over at FROCS forum about tightening up a Pards Centaure Belgian Colt. Thought I'd share with you Pards.

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Subject: Ran across this Trap Door Springfield ...


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 16:28:25 09/26/09 Sat
Retty good price Sundance is this 1884 a shorter model? But not the Carbine?
http://www.gunsamerica.com/966324359/Guns/Rifles/Antique/1884_Springfield_Trap_Door_Rifle.htm?wl=1

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Subject: Colt 1862 Signature Series Trapper Mdl


Author:
fuzzy
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Date Posted: 15:21:33 09/26/09 Sat
Got my Colt 62 Pocket Model TRAPPER back today from my gunsmith friend.
I had him go through it. I ordered a new bolt for it from VTI and had him install it.
The cylinder just seemed a bit loose on it.
I had him fit a new bolt for it.
I bought an Uberti bolt for it. He said it was oversize for the gun.
The cylinder slots are smaller on it, than his Uberti 62 Pocket Navy.
Anyways, they really ground the heck outa the bolt, and havin him step the new bolt to fit the frame window, works alot better. Nice & tight.
I'm fitting a new set of Pearl white color grips on it soon. That is my next project.
I will post pics when I'm done w/ it.
Gonna restain my woodgrips on my Pietta 1860 Mdl also

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Subject: Ron the Canadian Cowboy's Bachlor Party


Author:
Smokin_Gun (YeeHawww!)
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Date Posted: 11:45:38 09/26/09 Sat
Here you go Ron it's the next best thing to bein' live.
The Candanian Cowboys' gatherin' of Old Coots and Cootettes.
This ain't all that's commin' I'm sure...

(See Pics Page 2)

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Subject: Going to maybe look at a couple of 1860 colt reproductions for sale


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Bo T
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Date Posted: 19:38:43 09/25/09 Fri
A couple of .44 Italian Colt 1860s' reproductions are for sale near me. If the seller still has them on Saturday I'll go check them out. No manufaturers name but case hardened steel frame. Stamped UB, serial number under the loading lever and frame. Any ideas, price, cautions, things to covet and things to avoid???

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Subject: Got a Remington today


Author:
sainthooddenied
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Date Posted: 19:31:50 09/25/09 Fri
Well not a real one but a cool old print to hang in my new batchelor pad. My mom is an artist and reconized the name right off as some big time painter. I found it in an antique mall and just liked the print and frame no matter who did it. The print is actually full scale size to a Remington Army. pic next page.

Chad

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Subject: Fast Draw - 5 shots off an assistant in less than a second


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 17:24:12 09/25/09 Fri
nxt pge >

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Subject: Sundance 44's


Author:
fuzzy
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Date Posted: 14:29:26 09/25/09 Fri
http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=141259550

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Subject: Dave ready yer Vessel, I'm headed North ... :O)


Author:
Smokin_Gun
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Date Posted: 09:10:39 09/25/09 Fri
Got me a CSA sailin' Vessel in the Carribian ... I wanna try it out.
Gotta Name it ... the "Mazatlan" don't work for me...
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/September2009/myCSANavy3.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/September2009/myCSANavy2.jpg

My Indian on a Cruise
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/September2009/IndianBikers.jpg

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Subject: Some nice old original leather pistol scabbards


Author:
fuzzy
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Date Posted: 08:54:56 09/25/09 Fri
http://www.antiquearmsamericainc.com/AAA_WesternLeather.htm

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Subject: Found Old Colt Black Powder Revolver Hidden In My Ceiling


Author:
Earl (Curious)
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Date Posted: 05:44:46 09/25/09 Fri
Hello,
How are you guys? I have a few questions wondering if there was any help out there. I was doing some renovations in my old beach house in the Rockaway section of Queens New York, I had an old bent 32, revolver and a colt black powder revolver with a NYC police insignia on it as well as colt logo, it is well faded and barely visible, but it is indeed authentic, serial number seems to be worn and very visible. wondering if anyone would know what the estimated value for this pistol would be?
You may contact me @ Freddie-b@live.com

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Subject: refinish Walker grips


Author:
Wayne
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Date Posted: 05:37:27 09/25/09 Fri
Got some satin sheen and a walnut redish hue. Water proof gunstock sealer and stain. pic of those and an old Uberti with the satin sheen grips. Satin sheen..not gloss.

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Subject: Cylinder loader ?


Author:
Fuzzy
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Date Posted: 17:33:15 09/24/09 Thu
Looking at the Traditions website.
I was interested in buying one of these to load my 62 Colt Pocket Trapper model.
http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/eshop/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=A1310
I emailed the lady, and they have no estimated time of order delivery.
I see there is a 6 shot cylinder in the picture.
Is the 62 pocket model cylinder arbor hole, the same diameter as 1851, 1861 Colt's?
If not, this loader wouldn't work for me.
I don't own another 36 to compare. I had all 44,s.

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Subject: 1860 Belgium


Author:
Sundance
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Date Posted: 09:37:13 09/24/09 Thu
I have been thinking about converting my 1860 Belgium to gated conversion if I can find a cylinder to fit ...I don`t know if one for a Uberti will fit it or not ....I don`t own a Uberti 1860 .
I don`t shoot cap and balls much anymore , fingers are just too damn stiff to mess with it .
I`m lucky to still be able to stuff patched round balls into my front stuffers .
So the 45 Schofields have been my pistol main stay for sometime now ... much lighter punch than the 45 Colts ..better for me and the pistols I still shoot .
Most all of the 45 Colt conversion cylinders will shoot the Schofield rounds also .
I`ve had a hankerin to buy one of the factory conversions from Taylors ....but I got to thinking my Belgium Colt might make a better one .
Wayner ....any thoughts on this ? Have you thought about this , or done it ?

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Subject: Mini-Range report


Author:
Thumper
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Date Posted: 05:35:09 09/24/09 Thu
Got and installed my Tombstone "Ivory", grips today. And I don't like to brag....but none of you have an 11 year old kid that could've done any better LOL!! Had to shoot it in the back yard "just to see". Last (& first), time I shot the R&S w/ the conversion cylinder I was all over the place, might have been cause the grip split on the 1st round and kinda blew my concentration. This time, I was shooting at 20yds, again, offhand and single handed. The first 2 skimmed the top of the can and the last 3 killed it. 454rnfp w/ 8.5g Unigue. God, I love the recoil, miss the smell of Holy Black though, gotta try loadin' some of those next.
http://www.fmtc.com/~tfl1x/R&SFauxIvory.jpg

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