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Date Posted:10:05:34 06/04/10 Fri In reply to:
Webmaster Dave
's message, "Re: How to determine the year of my Goliath?" on 07:59:33 06/04/10 Fri
Also, Matt,
I noticed in your pics (after I responded the 1st time)
that your car is indeed missing the ID plate which should be located on the firewall next to the firing order plate.
If you'd like to send me your serial #, I can compare it to both of mt cars, and to the Goliath owned by my friends in VT. Maybe that will give us a rough idea of about when your car was manufactured. Keep in mind that your engine also has a serial # that is different than your chassis serial #.
Also, since your car appears to have had the round lenses under the headlights, then that probably means it is a late '58. Then the tailfinned cars were manufactured sometime in mid to late '58 as '59 & '60 models, and were known as the 1100B.
Hope this clears up some of your questions!
Webmaster Dave
>It is very hard to tell what year a Goliath is just by
>the serial number, but if you look on the ID plate on
>the passengerside firewall (if it is still there),
>there should be a year stamped on it. And i would
>imagine that yours is a 1958. You see, in about July
>of '58 Goliath changed the rear fenders on both the
>wagon and the sedan from being rounded, to having
>tailfins. Now, some of the cars earmarked for
>importation into the American market sometimes sat
>around in waiting, And may have been rebadged as
>'59's. Again, the year should be stamped in the ID
>plate on the firewall.
>As for the parking light/turnsignal lenses, as far as
>i can tell, all Goliath 1100s had just the parking
>lights atop the fenders. Starting in about '59, they
>added the little round "Borgward Isabella style"
>turnsignal units for the American market cars only, as
>well as sealed beam headlights. The European market
>cars did not use these round lights.
>Goliath wasn't very consistant in standardizing their
>parts, using simply what they could find available at
>the time. So some cars may have had items added or
>deleted, or may be slightly different in a particular
>serial number range. For example, some Goliath
>parking light lenses are made by Hella, and some are
>by Bosch. and the location of the mounting
>holes/screws are off from each other just a little bit.
>Confusing! But fun!
>
>Webmaster Dave
>
> >Well just finished sandblasting the the Goliath
>wheels
>>in preparation of powdercoating them. If you've never
>>experienced the unique pleasure of sandblasting,
>>congratulations! It is a nasty, dirty, tedious job
>>made even worse by the 90 degree heat here. I have no
>>idea how people do it for a living...
>>
>>There seems to be some discrepancy as to what year my
>>Goliath actually is. The previous owner gave me all
>>the paperwork he had going back several owners to the
>>early '70s. The car has been titled a number of times,
>>sometimes as a '58 and at others a '59. Is there a way
>>to determine what year the car actually is? There are
>>some pictures of the car at
>target=_blank rel=nofollow
>>target=_blank
>>href="http://picasaweb.google.com/spoonbow/GoliathKomb
>i
>>">http://picasaweb.google.com/spoonbow/GoliathKombi
>>
>>
>>If you look at the photos, you will also see that at
>>some point, incorrect front turn signals were added to
>>the car. I haven't been able to locate very many
>>pictures of Goliath Kombis on the web, and in the ones
>>that I have seen, most have only the lights on top of
>>the front fenders, while others also have either clear
>>or amber "bullet" lights mounted low on either side of
>>the grill. Is there a "standard" configuration for
>>these lights?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Matt Heffron
>>1950-something Goliath Kombi
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