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Date Posted: 08:34:23 06/16/04 Wed
Author: HC1843
Subject: Re: Colgate13
In reply to: colgate13 's message, "OK..." on 08:15:00 06/16/04 Wed

In with the good, out with the bad...

serenity now...serenity now...

relax, Gilmore was talking to alum and did no wrong. There is also potentially the thought that at some level HC football is known better nationally b/c of how it ran the table in the 80's and early 90's, when it had scholarships.

Chill man...the world is still right.

Cheers.

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[> [> [> oh, I'm relaxed -- colgate13, 09:26:46 06/16/04 Wed

and I know he's stroking alums egos. However if your alums have a pulse they should see right through it. The only name recognition HC football would have right now isn't because of the past success but of the more recent futility. Your recruits (and all of the PL for that matter) aren't being sold on successes that were before many of them were born. I'll bow out of the conversation now, but I will close by saying I'd be wondering a little about my coach if I was supporting HC. Telling alums what they want to hear will only get you so far.

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[> [> [> [> You don't sound relaxed -- Zipp, 10:38:47 06/16/04 Wed

I guess its a little like Red Aurbach saying that the Celtics have better "recogition" than do, say the Dallas Mavericks. Is it true? I'd say yes. Is it based on past success? Definately. Is it a selling point? if you believe in tradition, then yes. Certainly doesn't mean that they're currently better.

Do you think the coaches at Notre Dame are selling their recruits a bill of goods when they tout ND's tradition? (which lately is based solely on past performances) Do you think the ND recruit or coach is short changed because they chose ND based on tradition instead of Miami or Ohio State because they've had winning years lately?

I guess it's a matter of perspective; and it's clear what your's is.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Biddle said much the same thing in '95... -- Go...'gate, 21:04:06 06/16/04 Wed

after Colgate went 0-11 and many believed the program would not be competitive again.

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