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Date Posted: 10:04:39 04/13/04 Tue
Author: BBall = academic rigor?
Subject: Pat League Discussion (Long Post)
In reply to: xudash 's message, "Outside View of Pat League Discussion (Long Post)" on 21:09:05 04/12/04 Mon

Although I'd also like to switch leagues, give me a break on what I consider to be a patronizing post. Among the top law and graduate schools in the US, Holy Cross has an excellent "national" reputation. Take a look at HC's admission rates to these schools and I think you'll find they blow away Xavier's. Just take a look at the bios of the partners from many of the best law firms in the nation, not to mention Wall Street, etc. So I guess Cinncinati is a better school than Middlebury or Bowdoin because more people have heard of it. Please. I have nothing against Xavier but how is it that Merrimack College in Mass., Fairfield U., Santa Clara and a few others all have have higher academic ratings (100 is the top score) than Xavier in the Princeton Review. For the record, the ratings are:

Xavier (selectivity--72; academic 76)
Merrimack College (selectivity--75; academic--80)
Fairfield (selectivity--80; academic--79)
Santa Clara (selectivity--80; academic-84)
Boston College (selectivity--96; academic--92)
Holy Cross (selectivity-- 92; academic-- 94)

I'd be careful about correlating basketball success with academic rigor. For some schools, it has helped but for others it has hasn't.

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[> [> Re: Pat League Discussion (Long Post) -- cf rivals, 10:47:21 04/13/04 Tue

To achieve high academic results it takes what? excellent students w/desire to succeed, excellent teachers and an investment in facilities and an atmosphere that breeds success.

The BB has half of this. The student athletes and teachers fit the criteria, but can you tell me the Hart Center and the PL breed an atmophere of excellence in BB?? I think not.

Why is the commitment to athletics always done half way? The PL does not hold any athletic clout that you can slide by with anything.

The top of this string makes some very good points. BB will never be the only thing HC is noted for, but could be a tool to go well beyond where we are today. "Strive for excellence in all areas, not just a few"

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[> [> [> Re: Pat League Discussion (Long Post) -- kesiwick, 17:16:13 04/13/04 Tue

right on - I hate to see HC turn into a bunch of non-competitive weenie eggheads who spend their non-study hours trying to get ROTC kicked off campus and gender specific pronouns banned from campus speech -- as the old sayings go, second place is just first loser and there is no substitute for victory!

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