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Subject: Re: cervical cancer shot Author: RN [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 20:48:14 07/03/09 Fri In reply to: Nick 's message, "Re: cervical cancer shot" on 18:46:54 07/01/09 Wed I have been a nurse for 20 years and that is the way i do my injections for my pateitns. A quick slap on the butt makes the needle hurt less as it goes in . it distracts them. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: cervical cancer shot Author: Tim [Edit] Date Posted: 05:18:28 07/05/09 Sun Gardasil is the dumbest vaccine parents have ever been brainwashed into. If sex is unprotected, which HAS to be the reason for taking the HPV shots, then I would be more concerned with a a few minor illnesses like AIDS, Hepatitis C, or any number of STDs going around. PREGNANCY EVEN? Why the hysteria about the Papilloma Virus which, even if you have it, doesn't mean you get cervical cancer? Also, how can you risk ANY chance of your daughters being one of the lucky ones to get seizures or even death from the vaccine? Is this the wave of the 21st century; to risk our children lives to possibly prevent a possible disease when worse ones are just as easy to get? You buy lottery tickets with a 1 in 10 million chance of winning, when the odds are more in favor of your daughters having one of the bad affects from the HPV Vaccine. You think you're gonna win one and not the other? LOL I can only assume that all you mothers out their have stock in Merck. If your daughters don't get cervical cancer and DO get Hepatitis C or AIDS will you feel relieved? I suppose you will. Don't listen to my thoughts, read Mercks: http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/105999 Merck denied these side affects for years....Hmmmmm Who is the joke on now ladies??? Perhaps tell your 12 year old kids when they're out having sex to just use a condome? Maybe it's NOT wise to mimic Sarah Palin and have your daughters out there boinking the world? But the ignorance of risking side affects from a vaccine where it is only 1 of the horrible things your daughters can get, is amazing. No wonder this Country is in bad shape!!!!! You all suffer from Munchousers Syndrome!!!!! Tim PS. Have all of you made your daughters get the Pneumonia vaccine? MANY people die if they get Pneumonia. Better run out and make ALL your kids get that immediately. Pneumonia is contagious!!!!!!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: cervical cancer shot Author: Leila [Edit] Date Posted: 22:51:15 07/06/09 Mon Tim - the pneumococcal vaccine is NOT a pneumonia shot. It is for the pneumococcal bug, specifically for meningitis - not Pneumonia. Second, most 12 year olds will be 25 year olds some day. they may be in a monogamous relationship and decide to have a baby (ergo no place for condoms). What if their husbands are HPV + for the high risk strains? Should they risk having cervical cancer later in life (which they can die of.....) by having sex with their husbands, or should they be vaccinated against the bug that can cause it? Certainly, to take the position of the extreme on any subject is dangerous and irresponsible. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: cervical cancer shot Author: Leila [Edit] Date Posted: 22:53:50 07/06/09 Mon Tim - MunchauseN's syndrome [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: cervical cancer shot Author: Tim [Edit] Date Posted: 04:52:57 07/07/09 Tue Okay..here goes.... FIRSTLY, Pneumococcal is NOT a meningitis shot. it IS a shot to prevent pneumonia for up to 10 years. http://www.fbhc.org/Patients/Modules/pneumonia.cfm So all parents, if they want to stay consistent, should run right out and get this shot for ALL their kids. You can DIE from Pneumonia and it can be contagious WITHOUT sex. SECONDLY, the example of a future husband is flawed. A future husband can also have Hepatitis C or HIV without even knowing it; So worrying about Cervical Cancer only, is still shortsighted. Additionally, the vaccine doesnt cover all causes of Cervical Cancer. There are 12 strains of the Papilloma virus that can cause cervical cancer and Gardasil only covers 2. While these 2 may cause 70% of the Cervical Cancer cases, there is no guarantee one will get Cervical Cancer even if they have these 2 strains. And it's still only 2 out of the 12 strains that may give your kids cervical cancer. Huh? If a seizure or any other severe side affect is possible, I would never risk my kids with this. This isnt the flu. You dont get this by sneezing. You have to have unprotected intercourse and probably quite often. (This isn't 1 time fits all here) I suggest you never let your kids drive a car that isnt protected by layers of steel and air bags because the leading cause of death in the world is automobile accidents. There were over 31,000 DEATHS due to driving accidents in 2008. There were only 4000+ deaths from Cervical Cancer. Anyone letting their kids drive a small to medium sized car has no business worrying about the Human Papilloma Virus if they wish to be consistent. Much greater chance of their kids dying in a car. And I didnt even mention serious accident statistics..... LASTLY, I apologize if I spelled Munchousen Sydrome in an odd way but I got my information from this site: http://www1.pro-activesouthlondon.org/page.asp?section=0001000100030030000100010001§ionTitle=What+is+child+abuse And in the 3rd paragraph, they spell it the way I did. I just think people need to seriously think before they takes risks. And by the mere fact that Merck has admitted the side affect of siezures after denying it for 5 years gives me serious pause about this vaccine. We all know Merck paid off almost every politician in an attempt to make this mandatory in every State. Why? I dont recall Cervical Cancer being any silent killer among women as opposed the the many other deadly things they catch. Suddenly this is the new wave of urgency among 9-12 year olds for a future husband who most likely will give your daughters much worse things including a nervous breakdown!!! Surprisingly, the one good aspect of this vaccine is, if your 12 year olds want this vaccine, you can bet your bottom dollar they're having sex...LOL I rest my case...LOL Tim PS. I rent to a women who has AIDS. She got it at 20 through sex. Tell her about the Human Papilloma Virus and watch her laugh. Shes 45 now and only has HIV. But she hardly had to worry about the Papilloma Virus. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: cervical cancer shot Author: Elizabeth [Edit] Date Posted: 08:53:22 07/31/09 Fri If a vaccine against AIDS or HepC existed, I'd have my whole family vaccinated. As they do not exist, using those diseases as a term of comparison is not very good. Besides, being covered from just 70% of cervical cancer causes is much much better than being covered from 0%. Cervical cancer kills most of those who get it. It kills much more than a flu, it kills way more than its vaccine. I'm not getting a vaccine for the flu, as I prefer my body learns how to fight a minor disease. But I did want to get the cervical cancer one. Unfortunately, my doc disagreed because of my food allergy, but if I had teenaged daughters I would not think twice. After all, every medication has side effects that hurt a vast minority of people. You can't avoid taking antibiotics to cure an infection because you are afraid of their side effects. And do not believe those who say it hurts a lot. Many friends of mine and daughters of friends of mine had it and they all said it stung a little. No one complained of being in pain the next day. Besides, none of them received it in their hips, not even a twelve year old girl who's so teen you would think she's suffering from anorexia - which, believe me, it's not true, absolutely! Vaccines are never administered into your hips. They are not effective that way! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]