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Subject: Re: cervical cancer shot


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Tim
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Date Posted: 04:52:57 07/07/09 Tue
In reply to: Leila 's message, "Re: cervical cancer shot" on 22:51:15 07/06/09 Mon

Okay..here goes....

FIRSTLY, Pneumococcal is NOT a meningitis shot. it IS a shot to prevent pneumonia for up to 10 years.

http://www.fbhc.org/Patients/Modules/pneumonia.cfm

So all parents, if they want to stay consistent, should run right out and get this shot for ALL their kids. You can DIE from Pneumonia and it can be contagious WITHOUT sex.

SECONDLY, the example of a future husband is flawed. A future husband can also have Hepatitis C or HIV without even knowing it; So worrying about Cervical Cancer only, is still shortsighted.

Additionally, the vaccine doesnt cover all causes of Cervical Cancer. There are 12 strains of the Papilloma virus that can cause cervical cancer and Gardasil only covers 2. While these 2 may cause 70% of the Cervical Cancer cases, there is no guarantee one will get Cervical Cancer even if they have these 2 strains. And it's still only 2 out of the 12 strains that may give your kids cervical cancer. Huh?

If a seizure or any other severe side affect is possible, I would never risk my kids with this. This isnt the flu. You dont get this by sneezing. You have to have unprotected intercourse and probably quite often. (This isn't 1 time fits all here)

I suggest you never let your kids drive a car that isnt protected by layers of steel and air bags because the leading cause of death in the world is automobile accidents. There were over 31,000 DEATHS due to driving accidents in 2008. There were only 4000+ deaths from Cervical Cancer.

Anyone letting their kids drive a small to medium sized car has no business worrying about the Human Papilloma Virus if they wish to be consistent. Much greater chance of their kids dying in a car. And I didnt even mention serious accident statistics.....

LASTLY, I apologize if I spelled Munchousen Sydrome in an odd way but I got my information from this site:

http://www1.pro-activesouthlondon.org/page.asp?section=0001000100030030000100010001§ionTitle=What+is+child+abuse

And in the 3rd paragraph, they spell it the way I did.

I just think people need to seriously think before they takes risks. And by the mere fact that Merck has admitted the side affect of siezures after denying it for 5 years gives me serious pause about this vaccine. We all know Merck paid off almost every politician in an attempt to make this mandatory in every State. Why?

I dont recall Cervical Cancer being any silent killer among women as opposed the the many other deadly things they catch. Suddenly this is the new wave of urgency among 9-12 year olds for a future husband who most likely will give your daughters much worse things including a nervous breakdown!!!

Surprisingly, the one good aspect of this vaccine is, if your 12 year olds want this vaccine, you can bet your bottom dollar they're having sex...LOL

I rest my case...LOL

Tim

PS. I rent to a women who has AIDS. She got it at 20 through sex. Tell her about the Human Papilloma Virus and watch her laugh. Shes 45 now and only has HIV. But she hardly had to worry about the Papilloma Virus.

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Elizabeth
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Date Posted: 08:53:22 07/31/09 Fri

If a vaccine against AIDS or HepC existed, I'd have my whole family vaccinated. As they do not exist, using those diseases as a term of comparison is not very good.

Besides, being covered from just 70% of cervical cancer causes is much much better than being covered from 0%.

Cervical cancer kills most of those who get it. It kills much more than a flu, it kills way more than its vaccine. I'm not getting a vaccine for the flu, as I prefer my body learns how to fight a minor disease. But I did want to get the cervical cancer one. Unfortunately, my doc disagreed because of my food allergy, but if I had teenaged daughters I would not think twice.

After all, every medication has side effects that hurt a vast minority of people. You can't avoid taking antibiotics to cure an infection because you are afraid of their side effects.

And do not believe those who say it hurts a lot. Many friends of mine and daughters of friends of mine had it and they all said it stung a little. No one complained of being in pain the next day.

Besides, none of them received it in their hips, not even a twelve year old girl who's so teen you would think she's suffering from anorexia - which, believe me, it's not true, absolutely!

Vaccines are never administered into your hips. They are not effective that way!

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