- well I see Carmarx is here..... --
JoeB, 19:38:35 11/13/09 Fri
to join-in on the insultarama with his "all ad hominems, all the time" fellow countryman, RIP.
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- faloffel re: what is pertinent -- mugwump, 19:36:42 11/13/09 Fri
the dollar is marching down to zero
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- - -- faloffal, 19:35:41 11/13/09 Fri
what is pertinent, praytell?
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- - -- faloffal, 19:34:38 11/13/09 Fri
Faber news anyone? globetrotter that he is, does he have any gold virus mutation he'd like to share?
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- the vet re: cot's -- mugwump, 19:32:36 11/13/09 Fri
the small time gold shorters have lost their capital and the big shorters like anglo and abx are covering like hell-lol! and yes, you're correct- the cots no longer are pertinent
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- - -- faloffal, 19:31:21 11/13/09 Fri
Hoye and Bonner smoking the same weed:
"There's no sign of panic. But we keep our Crash Alert flag flying anyway; you never know."
http://www.howestreet.com/articles/index.php?article_id=11514
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-
U Know sew Much, mental cRIPple -- Gila_Bob, 19:26:47 11/13/09 Fri
Friend:
Why ain't u gata Nude$ Letter
Or at least a Phund...........
The ONLY clientelle u might Attract
Is Tarmack & Black Flies!!!
LOL
Big Bob
(I'm positive yer Sheep
Find you Repulsive
Ewe know what I Mean????????)
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- Have the COTs lost their bite? -- The_Vet, 19:26:22 11/13/09 Fri
In times past this board and others like it were taken over by the COT followers every Friday afternoon.
They pored over every minute move in the magic commercial short interest number and postulated on the movement of gold, silver and their bowels for the next week all based on what the "commercial" numbers were..
Now, nobody seems to even bother posting the numbers let alone trying to make something out of them, but just for old times sake here they are...
http://www.cftc.gov/dea/options/deacmxsof.htm
Ps. Commercials are shorter in gold and silver than they were last week as usual.. What it means? Don't ask me, I never felt they meant much anyway...
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- I gue$$ Tarmack stumbled Outta the Bucket Sh0p -- Gila_Bob, 19:23:12 11/13/09 Fri
Friends:
And fell into a Vat of Vodka
Oh Well...........
They don't call it KANA-DUHH!!! fer Nuthin'
LOL
Big Bob
(Watch that IQ Thingy, Tarmack
Bein' in Densa is the LAST Place
Ta toss st0nes 0utta
Buttttttttttttttt
I gue$$ yer Outhouse is Immune ta Rocks
LOL)
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- from peak gold -- mugwump, 19:22:29 11/13/09 Fri
Gold has been a valuable mineral for a long time and for nations all around the world. All the good and easy places to find it, therefore, have been sought after and largely found. The gold deposits that are worked have become smaller of lower value and found in places that are harder to get to. With lower availability, greater demand and higher price, it became more practical to mine and process lower grade deposits and to go deeper into the Earth for the higher grades. Mines in South Africa and in South Dakota have been worked down to more than 2 miles below the surface, to recover the ore. And techniques have been developed that recover it in even very small quantities – 3 gm per tonne is an ore that contains very little gold (3 divided by 1000 = 0.003 kg divided by 1000 = 0.000003 tonnes or 3 parts per million). So, while miners can still find the odd nugget when they pan for gold in streams around the country (and there are lots of maps available to tell you where to look), for the large scale levels of production that make a significant impact on the market, you need large deposits of gold with the potential for greater yields, and those places are getting harder and harder to find. And even as one goes deeper, the grade of the gold doesn’t necessarily continue.
Harmony Gold said yesterday that it may close two more mines over coming months due to poor ore grades.
Gold production in South Africa had fallen 9.3% year-on-year last September--this in the country that once led the world in gold production.
We haven’t run out of gold yet
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- mugwump -- RIP, 19:22:05 11/13/09 Fri
Schiff is explaining the reasons for deflation....without even knowing it.
Sprott is a clown who hired Embry.....where is he now?
Nuff said?
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- first peak oil, now, peak gold!! -- mugwump, 19:21:03 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/5960#more
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- dimitri speck on greenspan -- mugwump, 19:19:00 11/13/09 Fri
Greenspan said:
"I have one other issue I'd like to throw on the table. I hesitate to do it, but let me tell you some of the issues that are involved here. If we are dealing with psychology, then the thermometers one uses to measure it have an effect. I was raising the question on the side with Governor Mullins of what would happen if the Treasury sold a little gold in this market. There's an interesting question here because if the gold price broke in that context, the thermometer would not be just a measuring tool. It would basically affect the underlying psychology."
The then FED chief Greenspan himself considers here direct intervention in the gold market! It is clearly about gold sales for the purpose of influencing price. It is not about sales for other purposes (such as managing the reserves), which are announced publicly as reasons for gold sales by the Federal Reserve. Greenspan refers to gold as a "thermometer". He wants to influence its signal effect. If otherwise "thermometer" readings are too high, and the gold price were to suddenly rise in this environment it would fundamentally affect psychology. This quote and the context in which it was made show the main motive for why gold market intervention began a good two months later. It had to do with quelling the signal that would indicate inflation might increase. Against the backdrop of a weak economic environment, the FED was faced with the threat of a continued increase in the inflation rate. An interest rate increase would have weakened the economy further. Central bankers were not clear about the reasons behind the general increase in prices; popular explanations such as a wage-price-spiral were rejected on factual grounds. For this reason they suspected inflation expectations as the driving force behind currency depreciation. The increasing price of gold threatened to magnify those expectations. Intervention in the gold market was introduced so that the "thermometer" would show lower values - and no fever.
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- sprott- can you spell inflation?? -- mugwump, 19:15:11 11/13/09 Fri
Eric Sprott: There aren't too many choices when you're in debt to the level that the U.S. government is. As we've outlined in some of our recent articles, one way of calculating it says there's $72 trillion of debt and other way suggests it is $100 trillion. It's almost academic which calculation you use; it's just an overwhelmingly serious problem.
Thank goodness we have a zero interest rate policy. Otherwise, the cost of those obligations would be unbearable. As we analyze where we are and look at all the things that the administration is doing, it certainly seems that they're going to try to spend their way out of it. Last week's announcement regarding the extension of the homeowner credit, in addition to giving corporations loss carry-backs while paying unemployment benefits for an additional 20 weeks—these are all signs of trying to spend their way out of it. It is looking more and more like it will be an inflationary scenario. It could even be hyperinflationary.
I find it instructive that the U.K. has announced another quantitative easing program. I really think that once the Fed has spent the $1.25 trillion buying the GSE paper that we might yet see another level of quantitative easing in the States.
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- obama and jobs- schiff -- mugwump (), 19:11:29 11/13/09 Fri
As our economy becomes less competitive due to higher taxes, burdensome and uncertain regulations, and capital flight, more manufacturing and services will be outsourced to foreign firms. However, the flaw in GDP calculation allows the output of those foreign workers to be included in our domestic tally. Since we count the output but not the worker responsible for it, government statisticians attribute the gains to rising labor productivity. To them, it looks like companies are producing more goods with fewer workers.
The reality is that we are producing less with fewer workers. The added “productivity” comes from higher unemployment and larger trade deficits. This is a toxic formula that will have lethal economic consequences.
Don't expect the brain trust at the President's job summit to fret much about these details. That public relations stunt will likely ignore the root cause of the economic imbalances and instead stress the need for government spending on training and education, i.e. more public debt. The unemployed do not need government theatrics, they need actual jobs. But as long as the government props up failed companies, soaks up all available investment capital, discourages savings, punishes employers, and chases capital out of the country, jobs will continue to be lost.
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- san gold first operating profit -- mugwump, 19:07:06 11/13/09 Fri
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/San-Gold-reports-third-cnw-4212432917.html?x=0&.v=1
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- - -- faloffal, 19:06:35 11/13/09 Fri
rambler UK:RMM
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=UK:RMM&sid=1950416&time=
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- hyperdynamics 2D seismic -- mugwump, 19:05:11 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=82442
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- yng results not too hot but expected to improve next qtr -- mugwump, 19:03:32 11/13/09 Fri
when jerritt reopens
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/YukonNevada-Gold-Corp-reports-prnews-2657956593.html?x=0&.v=12
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- - -- faloffal, 19:01:59 11/13/09 Fri
Orion Bank closed by FDIC
http://www.fdic.gov/bank/individual/failed/orion-fl.html
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- so it kinda looks like the russians are eventually gonna take -- mugwump, 18:59:15 11/13/09 Fri
over high river gold
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- X-CAL Resources up 25% -- AU-RWG, 18:56:41 11/13/09 Fri
X-CAL closed up 25% today at a new 52 week high. No news release but volume was about twice average for the past 3 months. Charts look good with MACD and RSI rising and BBands looking strong.
They have anywhere from 2.0 to 3.0 million ounces of au and alot of ag in the ground. The intriguing part of their story is that the have over 700,000 ounces above ground that was mined by earlier operators who left ore in heap leach pads etc that was not fully recovered. There are also some hi grade and bonanza grade veins on the property which is a 30 square mile district. X-CAL owns 100% of the property and they have some well known shareholders like Eric Sprott and Kinross Gold. An interesting story!!!
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- polenica to acquire 150 million shares of high river gold -- mugwump, 18:55:10 11/13/09 Fri
On October 27, 2009, High River announced a proposed private placement of up to 150,000,000 common shares of the Company to Polenica Investments Limited ("Polenica"), an affiliate of Troika Dialog Group ("Troika"). Subject to negotiation of final agreements and due diligence, Polenica will acquire 150,000,000 common shares, representing approximately 23.1% of the 649,219,422 currently outstanding common shares, at a price of $0.38 per share. As previously announced on October 27, 2009, TSX has conditionally approved the private placement subject to receipt and clearance of a Personal Information Form in respect of Polenica. The proceeds of the private placement will be used by High River to repay the approximately US$27 million plus accrued interest outstanding under the two credit agreements that were assigned by Standard Bank Plc to OAO Severstal ("Severstal") as of April 20, 2009, with the balance being used to fund the exploration program at Buryatzoloto and for general corporate purposes. The private placement was unanimously approved by the Board of Directors of High River, with nominees of Severstal abstaining.
The TSX has received the Personal Information Form in respect of Polenica and it is expected that closing of the private placement will occur as soon as practicable following clearance of such Personal Information Form. It is also expected that concurrently with the closing of the private placement, a nominee of Troika will be appointed to the Board of Directors of High River and to the Audit Committee, provided such nominee qualifies for such appointment under applicable securities legislation.
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- Earl - different weight -- WALIAC, 18:54:56 11/13/09 Fri
Ahhj...
Curses, fooled again.
BTW, that Shapley quote was excellent.
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- MBIA - you all lied so we're suing -- 2bro2b, 18:53:01 11/13/09 Fri
http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/13/norris-a-lack-of-rigor-costs-mbia/
The old 'devil made me do it' defense. While the lawyers apportion themselves the lion's share of proceeds litigating how much of which lie this den of thieves
owe each other for telling how many when about what, the taxpayers have been elected to make good on their lying losses which is fair enough, after all, it is the desultory results of their elections.
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAnast3.jpg
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- - -- faloffal, 18:49:53 11/13/09 Fri
flu virus mutation most likely to occur in a Tropical country.
Canada's 'snowgeese' syndrome will be bringing fresh circulation to growing pandemic
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- Mr Dehlia -- Carmack, 18:49:19 11/13/09 Fri
Go feck yourself !!!!!!!!!!
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- vietnam now can import gold -- mugwump, 18:47:26 11/13/09 Fri
86 million fanatical goldbugs won't be denied
http://www.mineweb.co.za/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page33?oid=92778&sn=Detail
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- whattsa-matter m0t0r-m0uth??????????? -- Gila_Bob, -- Carmack, 18:47:08 11/13/09 Fri
Geez Gelda why do you feel so compelled to use up so much energy and space every day "attempting" to trash Mr Ripley?
You should try to put aside those feelings of inferiority and just accept the fact that Rip and many others here have you by 60 IQ points ! Its just a fact and no amount of raving and lisping is going to change this fact !lololol
Have a nice day Mr Leghorn !
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- carjack is hittin' the bottle again .. -- Delta-au, 18:42:15 11/13/09 Fri
lil boy ..sober up ..
and go play with someone yer own puny brain size ..
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- Timmy will tell China.....you are welcome to let your currency float -- RIP (), 18:36:49 11/13/09 Fri
Chinaman will say.....how many bonds should we buy?
Both are idiots....but that's the game.
Got a game changer?
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- Gelda Leghorn,DelilaAu ,Joe, Miro and Devil to a better place.. -- Carmack, 18:38:53 11/13/09 Fri
Holy crap what a generic collection of repetitive, light in the loafers, boneheads, led by a gay as a tulip, lisping pecker neck , shit for brains, always close to hysteria Gelderjerk, to have amassed in a single location ? Barf city, in the USA !!
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- Tungsten in fake gold .. -- Delta-au, 18:38:41 11/13/09 Fri
By Mike Hewitt - 13 Nov 2009
In early 2008 it was reported that at least some of the gold bars in the vaults at the National Bank of Ethiopia were fake. The discovery was made when bars shipped from Ethiopia to South Africa were returned after they were identified as being gilded steel.
Gilded steel is a very unconvincing form of fake gold because the density of the iron alloy is significantly less. A steel bar identical in volume to the standard 400 troy ounce gold bars commonly used in bank-to-bank trades would weigh only 162.5 troy ounces (about sixty percent lighter). Anyone familiar with handling gold bars would easily identify them as counterfeit.
Even lead, a common heavy metal, is a poor substitute as it is only 59% the density of gold. One of the things that historically made gold so attractive to be used as money was its unmistakable density.
Nowadays we know of several metals that have similar densities to gold, such as the heavier platinum-group metals. However, using these metals to produce fake gold is unprofitable due to their high cost.
There are two metals that are suitable, from both a density and economic perspective, for manufacturing fake gold - uranium and tungsten.
These metals aren't without their give-aways either. Different chemical and electro-magnetic properties exist. Uranium is of course radioactive. Tungsten is extremely brittle - the exact opposite of gold. Additionally, tungsten has the highest known melting point of any non-alloyed metal at 3422 degrees Celsius, making it difficult to work with. However, it appears that at least one high-temperature furnace is producing gilded tungsten products.
A Chinese company called Chinatungsten is advertising imitation gold merchandise on its website. The following quote is taken directly from their Tungsten Alloy for Gold Substitution page:
"a coin with a tungsten center and gold all around it could not be detected as counterfeit by density measurement alone ... We are well accustomed to exploit more innovative applications of tungsten products. Gold-plated tungsten is one of our main products."
This raises a few (somewhat rhetorical) questions. What kind of customer is this company looking to sell its imitation gold products to and for what purposes are they intended? Furthermore, what exactly are the "more innovative applications of tungsten products" that this company is hinting at?
..
bbl ..
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- nxg has gone from $1 to $3 this year -- mugwump, 18:37:31 11/13/09 Fri
that was another easy one
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=NXG&t=1y
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- Alabama county sues JP Morgan over sewer bond debt -- LilDevil, 18:35:50 11/13/09 Fri
IRMINGHAM, Alabama (Reuters) - Alabama's Jefferson County sued JPMorgan Securities and JPMorgan Chase and Co on Friday, alleging fraud related to the accumulation of its massive sewer bond debt, a senior county official said.
JPMorgan said the county's suit was "meritless."
The county sued for compensatory and punitive damages, seeking a jury trial over what it says were fraudulent transactions tied to interest rate and bond swaps earlier this decade as it sought to upgrade its sewer system.
"We are suing for fraud because they conspired to profit with interest rate swaps to the detriment of the county," said Assistant County Attorney Charles Wagner..........more
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE5AC5EM20091113
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- you don't need to be a genius to make money in ego -- mugwump, 18:34:38 11/13/09 Fri
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=EGO
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- @Ohio adopting a new one-drug lethal injection protocol -- RIP, 18:33:19 11/13/09 Fri
How many drugs do you want?
Isn't Ohio broke?
There's Devil's gold content for ya.
Zilch.
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- Let's see how the Shittalker does in Asia this weekend...... -- AZAU, 18:33:09 11/13/09 Fri
Might make for an interesting trading week upcoming.
Hope he brought timmy and lloyd along, so when china demands a balanced us budget, they can do some more of god's work.
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- Ohio adopting a new one-drug lethal injection protocol -- LilDevil, 18:20:23 11/13/09 Fri
".
.
.............Executions will use a single drug, thiopental sodium, "in an amount sufficient to cause death," Attorney General Richard Cordray's office said in filing in U.S. District Court in Columbus. The drug is an anesthetic. The new procedure will be in place by Nov 30.
The new procedure is similar to one used in euthanizing pets: a massive dose of an anesthetic. The drug is also sometimes used in medically-induced comas. Ohio will be the first state in the U.S. to use the one-drug procedure. .........."
more
http://sentencing.typepad.com/sentencing_law_and_policy/2009/11/ohio-adopting-a-new-onedrug-lethal-injection-protocol.html
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- - -- faloffal (), 18:18:07 11/13/09 Fri
Nigeria* buying IMF gold
mozel
would that surprise? Because the country is bursting with 'inflation agers'. Economic growth here is faster than China.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200911130010.html
*add this country to 'problem inflation' category next to India
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- remember the good old days when fcx was a lousy $20 -- mugwump, 18:18:45 11/13/09 Fri
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=FCX&t=1y
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- ngd up 8%- ready to rumble -- mugwump, 18:16:33 11/13/09 Fri
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=NGD
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- babylon Hoye sz GSR @ 64 -- BUFFORD, 18:16:20 11/13/09 Fri
saying party almost over
http://www.howestreet.com/audio/bobhoye_2009_1113.mp3
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- Anything can be sold at a price.....at any time -- RIP, 18:15:22 11/13/09 Fri
But maximum profit comes with a timer.
And time is money.....to a black box.
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- wow!! iag up 8% new high -- mugwump, 18:15:15 11/13/09 Fri
glad i doubled up on that
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=IAG
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- smf- new high -- mugwump, 18:12:36 11/13/09 Fri
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=SMF.TO
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- canaco up 27% yeah baby -- mugwump, 18:11:10 11/13/09 Fri
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CAN.V
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- When gold comes out of Asia at $1200 an ounce, will the sage of the great white -- mozel, 18:07:57 11/13/09 Fri
concede the India deal was bigger even than GS ? I guess we are to think that if China spurns IMF gold, it will just lay there unsold ? I don't thin so.
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- Unadjuvanted flu vaccine approved for wider use -- RIP, 17:58:24 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/unadjuvanted-flu-vaccine-approved-for-wider-use/article1362248/
Gee....do you think the demand isn't up to snuff for your other crap?
Feck ya.
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- -- -- Winston, 17:52:24 11/13/09 Fri
Deal News. Black Friday ads for major stores:
http://dealnews.com/black-friday.html
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- xcl up 25% today -- mugwump, 17:46:38 11/13/09 Fri
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=XCL.TO
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- a month old .. but still pertinent .. -- Delta-au, 17:43:26 11/13/09 Fri
Tuesday, October 13, 2009
Gold: The Big Picture
This essay rounds up arguments for looking at gold as a reasonable investment: 1) The dollar; 2) China; 3) declining production; 4) inflation; 5) deflation; 6) global short-term interest rates; 7) uncertainty and distrust in government; and 8) flight to safety.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/10/gold-big-picture.html
`
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- Oil Shipping .. -- Delta-au, 17:34:32 11/13/09 Fri
VLCC demand firmer all round for this week ..
Speculation .. coming into the pre-Xmas busy-period early?
Dunno .. for now, the ship business for Owners is G O O D ..
..
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- LCROSS Impact Data Indicates Water on Moon -- LilDevil (), 17:19:09 11/13/09 Fri
NASA today opened a new chapter in our understanding of the moon. Preliminary data from the Lunar CRater Observation and Sensing Satellite, or LCROSS, indicates that the mission successfully uncovered water during the Oct. 9, 2009 impacts into the permanently shadowed region of Cabeus cater near the moon’s south pole.
The impact created by the LCROSS Centaur upper stage rocket created a two-part plume of material from the bottom of the crater. The first part was a high angle plume of vapor and fine dust and the second a lower angle ejecta curtain of heavier material............more
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LCROSS/main/prelim_water_results.html
Images:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LCROSS/main/LCROSS_results_images.html
Dedicated to RIP
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- LilDevil -- RIP, 17:15:56 11/13/09 Fri
Post a pic.
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- RIP -- LilDevil, 17:14:52 11/13/09 Fri
.
Grow up.
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- Getting ME stirred up? -- RIP, 17:12:34 11/13/09 Fri
Do you ever read your own garbage.....and the effort you put into it?
LOL
Try harder.
Or less.....with a little bit of thought.
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- - -- faloffal, 17:10:26 11/13/09 Fri
feel free to throw a dart, not that any of you need encouragement..
CI Financial Income Fund
Goldman Sachs Group Inc.
AGF Management Ltd.
Royal Bank of Canada
Bank of Montreal
Bank of America Corp.
J.P. Morgan Chase & Co.
Manulife Financial Corporation
Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce
Sun Life Financial Inc.
Toronto-Dominion Bank
National Bank of Canada
Citigroup Inc.
Great-West Lifeco Inc.
Bank of Nova Scotia
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- faloffal and DeBeers -- RIP, 17:07:31 11/13/09 Fri
I just kinda tossed that out there.
But it is something to consider.
Regent's 'peak' comment made my ears perk......because I know that is ALWAYS bs.
We shall see....as always.
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- Ghold another new world record !! -- skys39, 17:05:49 11/13/09 Fri
sweeeeeeeet
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- whattsa-matter m0t0r-m0uth??????????? -- Gila_Bob, 17:04:45 11/13/09 Fri
Friend:
Ya post n0n-st0p Drivel & Innuendo Here
EACH & EVERY DAY 50-75 Times a Day
And ya want allah yer Krittik$
Ta Take a Hike??????????????
Add all of our posts TOGETHER on a Daily Basis
And its a Fraction of yer Non-Stop Tripe
Not withstanding THAT I do believe That
Disparate as it may Bee
Our Input is more valuable than yer Slack-Jawed cAUcophany
If u dedicated 10% of yer Effort Here
Ta gettin' KANA-DUH!! Outta Afghanistan
They might already BEE on the Boat Home
Buttttttttttttttttttttttttt
That might require u to do Something
Besides sh00t yer ever-present drivel-enhanced BEEG MOUTH off Hear
Good Luck with yer Shitty Attitude,
Big Bob
(That WA$ a Nice $20k Bounce I cAUght in the Last 10 Minute$
While u were bU$y fulminatin'.............
It'$ fun ta getcha all $tirred Up
WHILE I'm Makin' a Killin'
And YER l00$in' whatever is left of yer daddy'$ Marble$
LOL.....................)
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- - -- faloffal (), 17:00:15 11/13/09 Fri
gold market and DeBeers
RIP
is an analogy that needs a bit of mustard.
DeBeers-diamonds, the most successful cartel in history, unless you include Anunnaki-human slavery.
one tiny blemish of nitrogen.... and it all goes into sandpaper...
perhaps India got all that gold because of that countries Inflating carbon footprint? It's all slated to be ground into ~atmospheric~ golddust.
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- it friday! bank failure day! -- skys39, 17:03:25 11/13/09 Fri
where day att ??
anytime now...
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- Al jefferson county sues jp morbid over fraud -- skys39, 16:54:02 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.myfoxal.com/Global/story.asp?S=11501521
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- funny how the liberty and justice loving MSM and most amerikans -- skys39, 16:48:38 11/13/09 Fri
has made the 911 'terrorists' guilty already
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- Gila sez....I have "Disrespect for all udder Posters" -- RIP, 16:48:08 11/13/09 Fri
Can I compare myself to you...and ask the board for a vote?
Why bother?
Yer a jackarse who considers themself above this place....except to lob shitbombs.
Why don't you take Joe, Miro and Devil to a better place?
You can all be rich...or brilliant together.
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- oh boo hoo hoo sez the g00-r00 -- Gila_Bob (), 16:42:34 11/13/09 Fri
Friends:
He ain't The Daily Jack-Ass fer nuthin'!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cereal posties about EVERYTHING
Plagiarism.......
p00p Psychology......
marquette drivel........
If its going "his" Weigh then thee marquette RULE$ ALL
If its going the "Wrong" Weigh then ittsa GOLDman $uck$ CON-$piracy..............
Low-brow insults to all udder Opinions...........
Disrespect for all udder Posters
(Except his few smarmy sick-0-phants, of coursE)
Yes Indeed, he is 1 of a Kind
And Thank Gawd for That
Big Bob
(sorta like havin' a Black Hole TRYIN' ta spread Light........LOL)
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- Thx for your comment boys, just blowing off alittle steam -- SilverFox, 16:36:22 11/13/09 Fri
Been doing this for to many years. What bothers me is that I can see massive evidence of naked shorting taking place on many of the mining and oil shares. I am upset that the exchanges on both sides are looking the other way and doing very little about it. I must admit in this matter, Canada is the larger problem. We are in the tangable cycle and I just want paper profits.
Cheers and have a great weekend
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- Devil.....wake up! -- RIP, 16:35:57 11/13/09 Fri
It's your turn.
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- BecAUse he duzzn't no dick.........Gila -- JoeB, 16:34:29 11/13/09 Fri
He's never met Jack either.
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- Sinclair's kingworld news interview-sound only -- Snowbird, 16:34:15 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2009/11/13_Jim_Sinclair.html
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- I have only commented to my fan club -- RIP, 16:32:34 11/13/09 Fri
All 3 of you.
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- BTW Gila -- RIP, 16:31:10 11/13/09 Fri
You put way too much effort into a complete waste of time.
Is it really that personal?
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- g00 r00 from Guelph entering "postal" Phase -- Gila_Bob, 16:29:41 11/13/09 Fri
Friends:
Can you imagine the kinda Splash Matt He Needs
Around the Key Bored??????????????
LOL
Big Bob
(Commenting on every thing and every body he achieves his Penultimate Goal
Absolute Irrelevance)
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- Was that Chinaman buying this PM? -- RIP, 16:29:14 11/13/09 Fri
Or was he in bed?
Oh no.
YOU don't know dick.
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- g00-r00 receives Downgrade -- Gila_Bob, 16:26:27 11/13/09 Fri
Friends:
The g00-r00 from Guelph has received multiple Downgrade$
To SLIR (Sadly Lacking In Research) from MI (Marginally Informed)
To SLIM (Sadly Lacking in Manners) from U (Uncouth)
To SLIW (Sadly Lacking in Wit) from HW (Half-Wit)
Big Bob
(And Where-oh-Where duzz He Get "The What Chinamen Can Do???"
Prolly uses the Tarmack Patented Chine$e Excite-0-Meter
ROTFLMAO
Did the Chinese Call the g00-r00 When they Bought Into TCK???
Even AFTER he warned them aweigh from the Non-Voting Shares!!!
Or the Long-Term Coking Coal Contract$????
Or thee Oil Sands??????????
Or the 400 Tonnes of Phsical they added in the Last 4 Years??????????????
And IF Not then Why Not??????????
DisCU$$......
I'll Start............BecAUse he duzzn't no dick.........
Continue............)
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- Guys like Sinclair are only right by accident -- RIP (), 16:25:41 11/13/09 Fri
The current POG has been handed to the 'too big to fails'.
Enjoy.
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- Metalline combo with Dome -- siempre33, 16:21:52 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.stockwatch.com/newsit/newsit_newsit.aspx?bid=U-pLA11041-U:MMG-20091113&symbol=MMG&news_region=U
The reason MMG dropped from as high as $4-5 the last couple of years is because of the global financing crisis, the drop in metal prices, and the fear that they would go bankrupt and get delisted. It got an extreme discount not because of a decrease in the bottom line metal amounts, but because of fears they wouldn't be able to finance their operations. The operating fundamentals of the project have improved dramatically with the shift to open pit on a much larger mine with much more metal (proven up with extensive drilling).
This deal means they're not going to go bankrupt, they won't get delisted (and should get a Canadian listing), and they were able to obtain the financing required to drill out what's required and to complete the expanded feasibility study. You can call it a paperwork shuffle, but as you say, it "saves this puppy from oblivion."
When a stock is priced for oblivion, and gets saved from it, it returns toward fair valuation. Now we should be able to get more information disclosure so we can better determine what fair valuation should be, but in any case it's likely much, much higher than the recent "oblivion" valuation.
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- TVI-Pacific -- playrightman, 16:08:26 11/13/09 Fri
traded over 5 million shares in Canada today, on news.
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- GS is frontrunning the metal -- RIP, 16:07:22 11/13/09 Fri
They got India to bite.
Now...Obama will try to convince China to bite if they want....or are forced to accept a stronger yuan.
It's a game....as old as the hills....with a Yiddish accent.
Can the Chinese refuse?
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- - -- faloffal, 16:05:49 11/13/09 Fri
the big three scientific theorems that change the modern world
earl
Einstein, Relativity
Heisenberg, Uncertainty
Godel, Incompleteness
ER
HU
GI
ERHUGI
Crab Canon this...
I HUG RE
and of course, 'this' has now got the global economy in a world of difficulty..
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- You go gold... forget the stocks. -- Kitcotodd, 16:03:10 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUTXb-ga1fo
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- 30 seconds of mirth .. -- Delta-au, 16:01:30 11/13/09 Fri
Warning - can be hazardous to yer sides ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTM0L9aMenU&feature=related
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- - -- faloffal, 15:58:57 11/13/09 Fri
silver-fox
when it comes to investing in the short term..
* returns don't match normal distribution
* returns tend to be dependent of one another (dependent on prior returns)
* volatility is inconstant
your portfolio performance over short term isn't surprising.
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- Well once again -- SilverFox -- Permabear1, 15:57:22 11/13/09 Fri
You really described the dilemma with your post. Buy and hold PHYSICAL gold only and forget about all the side show investments on gold. Futures, forget about them. Stocks, don't bother. The reserve currency is GRADUALLY failing and that is dominating everything else.
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- What Friday afternoons are good for.... -- RIP (), 15:50:46 11/13/09 Fri
...is laying out in no uncertain terms who sets the gold price.
Chinaman can suck on that Monday morning.
You cannot just partially play the game.
Your call.
You are either with us....or against us.
And even those lines are becoming blurred.
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- Mozel -- SilverFox, 15:48:30 11/13/09 Fri
You may be right!! paper gets paper loss
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- Well once again -- SilverFox (), 15:39:41 11/13/09 Fri
Wed gold up over 10 dollars I was up less than 1,000 dollars
Thru gold down 13 dollars I lost 16,0000 dollars. So far today gold up 15 dollars only up 7,000. So what is wrong with this picture?????/
Therefore in three days gold is net up 12 dollars plus yet my net worth is down 8,000 dollars. Makes alot of sense to me??????????????????//
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- "So what is wrong with this picture?????" @Nothing ... it's the perfected portrait of a man -- mozel (), 15:45:24 11/13/09 Fri
who can't distinguish gold from fictitious shares in gold mining.
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- - -- faloffal (), 15:40:28 11/13/09 Fri
looking at the flu pandemic, it would be reasonable to consider a closing of borders and a general shut-down of activity, possibly even a close of markets and bank holiday. The Canadian health authorities will work fast when flu reaches political goals.
if you were up early today, I would hazard... this is possibly on your mind.
I was shocked into waking up this morning, a picture of a young woman I know, with two small children. I haven't dreamt in a long time, but now every week there is a strong dream. The prior one, polluted water, which was corroborated with coworkers dreams.
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- That institutions have descended to corruption of bars to stem the demand for gold -- mozel, 15:41:01 11/13/09 Fri
speaks volumes to the hearing ear.
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- Nice hissy-fit Joe -- RIP, 15:34:22 11/13/09 Fri
Do keep going.
It's hilarious.
Maybe Devil can cover yer back......lol
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- to read my junk? -- RIP -- JoeB, 15:33:24 11/13/09 Fri
You post here for whom, you? Wait, come to think of it, you do.
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- A fan club of you 3 fools -- JoeB, 15:30:40 11/13/09 Fri
Don't count me in any fan club of yours. As I have made clear time and again, you're a conduit to an audience that needs to hear the countering view point. And there are some observations so wrong-headed and hypocritical, they can't be allowed to stand unchallanged, least some lurker actually think you represent the thinking of the average gold bug. IMO, you never have and never will.
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- JoeB....do I ask you to put down the paintbrush to read my junk? -- RIP, 15:27:11 11/13/09 Fri
Do I ask Gila to ease his trading finger...and stop scratching his arse?
Do I ask Devil to stop staring off into space?....lol
Do as you wish.
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- (he has had quite a run, though) - morbius -- JoeB, 15:26:18 11/13/09 Fri
How is a few months "quite a run"?
From 1999 to 2008, oil went up about 1400%. Then a correction came. So now we can say, from 1999 to 2099, oil is up 700%. But there's no inflation. It's all relative and based on one's time frame when measuring who is right and who is wrong. But I'm hard pressed to give credit to someone for being right for a few months (and "being right" means I am being generous in my definitions). I'd label it more an example of the broken clock syndrome.
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- HL - hmm -- APOLLO, 15:25:22 11/13/09 Fri
hope they aren't buying someone - they just got cleaned up from the last debacle/purchase.
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- A fan club of you 3 fools must count for something. -- RIP, 15:23:05 11/13/09 Fri
I'll never be poor....lol
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- Why do I waste my time. - RIP -- JoeB, 15:21:37 11/13/09 Fri
More like, why do you waste our time? Either way, your inconsistent and contradictory ramblings are a waste of time for all concerned.
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- By golly, they did get those munitions decommisioned -- Earl, 15:20:03 11/13/09 Fri
ULYANOVSK, Russia (Reuters) - At least two people were killed on Friday when a chain of explosions ripped apart a Russian arms depot on Friday, shattering windows for miles around and forcing the evacuation of 3,000 people.
Russia's Federal Security Service said a fire broke out at 1300 GMT when soldiers attempted to decommission munitions at navy Arsenal No. 31 on the outskirts of Ulyanovsk, a city of 625,000 people, 800 km (500 miles) southeast of Moscow.
The fire raged for at least five hours, lighting up the evening sky above the city, said a Reuters witness who added the windows of houses several kilometers away were shattered by the force of the blasts.
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- "...hang out with the REAL traders..."-- RIP, 15:02:06 11/13/09 Fri -- LilDevil (), 15:11:39 11/13/09 Fri
.
Says a dude who's got no gold.
Never trades.
Never ever shorted anything in his life...
Who's got no future(s) lol
Being Long a half a tank of home heating oil and a couple of keyboards must count for something I guess.
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- - -- faloffal, 15:12:54 11/13/09 Fri
for the gaggle of east-indians that 'work' the web, and surely they are part of the software upgrade at voy, they would undoubtably review the short version of this forum, I hope you are at least partly satisfied that i have now included your country in my analysis. Pakiston, as you are probably familiar mirrors your demographic stats. In fact, you should be very, very worried about your neighbours, because they are freightened of your 'growth' and 'population push'. So if you're Indian and are feeling confident and want to go on a 'Lebensraum', carry a gun.
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- awww............the g00-r00 is pi$$ed -- Gila_Bob, 15:08:07 11/13/09 Fri
Friends:
Let's take up a Collection
For a Rattle-Pacifier-Crib c0mb0
Prolly needs a bib t00
LOL
Big Bob
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- Gold 1300 in Vietnam -- WALIAC -- Earl, 15:08:01 11/13/09 Fri
As I recall, the article mentioned that their bars weighed 37.5 grams ..... a bit heavier than one ounce.
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- buck takes another drop -- 2bro2b, 15:07:54 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.ifallsdailyjournal.com/news/outdoors/gates-shoots-big-buck-laurel-beager-editor-111
Haylee 'pearly' Gates sez the buck stops here.
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- - -- faloffal, 15:05:53 11/13/09 Fri
so if i was revising my work from yesterday, I would add India in a new category, 'countries where Inflation becomes a problem', and herein is the reason why India is buying IMF gold.
the category is a small one, almost everywhere else inflation is not a problem, but disinflation, deflation and deciding to hyper inflate all get the go-around.
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- ... farewell, my lovely ... -- BWP, 15:03:40 11/13/09 Fri
"Obama Starts Asia Visit With Trip to Japan to Reassert U.S. Role in Region"
... yeah, go reassert ... and make sure ya come up wif a good story 'bout the dollar while yer reassertin' ... just hope they let ya leave ...
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- RIPolite -- LilDevil, 15:02:59 11/13/09 Fri
'..........Of course arsehole doesn't get it. -- RIP, 14:53:25 11/13/09 Fri ............."
Do as I 'post' not as I do!
Whatta Dope
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- Gila.....hang out with the REAL traders -- RIP, 15:02:06 11/13/09 Fri
I'm sure they love you....lol
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- Todd - I'm waiting to see how we close -- APOLLO, 15:01:29 11/13/09 Fri
I was planning to liquidate my trade positions Monday morning & short any stregnth. But this sell-off on the S&M that we just got is a problem unless it finishs up better. I assume there will be no move through 1100 S&P until we see what the implications of Obama in China are. Rumor is he gets a stronger Yuan - would think that's PM bullish & maybe we don't worry about CPI/PPI. But the otherside is that a higher Yuan is "tightening" in China. Very merky ST.
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- morbius....I'm getting excited? -- RIP, 15:00:21 11/13/09 Fri
It took JoeB 4 attempts to put one post together.....lol
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- JoeB - RIP's just getting a little excited -- morbius, 14:57:19 11/13/09 Fri
it's the smell of crow emanating from the kitchen (he has had quite a run, though).
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- l00k$ like the g00-r00 from Guelph -- Gila_Bob, 14:56:43 11/13/09 Fri
Friends:
Is in ANOTHER Snit............
Kinda Sad
Big Bob
(Anybody sea anything Tradeable Hear???????
I Can't..............LOL)
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- - -- faloffal, 14:55:15 11/13/09 Fri
why India, why now?
RIP
based on 23 year old demographics, India has the highest relative inflation rates, which powers through to the big fall 2013/14 (or possibly sooner, depending on longevity rates, data unknown).
Then it'll be over for gold and bonds will shine.
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- ... lean 'n mean .... -- BWP, 14:54:40 11/13/09 Fri
"Budget Freezes, Cuts Possible Says White House"
... yeah, they can save billions cuttin' down on the handmaidens workin' fer the first lady .... and cut down on diner portions when guests come ... it's makin' Hillary fat ...
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- Of course arsehole doesn't get it. -- RIP, 14:53:25 11/13/09 Fri
Naked shorts are meaningless in a market of equals.
The bailout has tilted the table in favour of a few gorillas.
Do you care to short gold....if Goldman is long?
Oil?
You want manipulation?.....well you have it now in spades.
Why do I waste my time.
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- Apollo - Do you see us going down around those reports? -- Kitcotodd, 14:52:52 11/13/09 Fri
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- ... spin them numbers .... -- BWP, 14:49:39 11/13/09 Fri
"Realtors: home prices to rise 4 percent in 2010- AP"
... yeah, they sat around a dial attached ta cardboard and spun it ....
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- @"If they wanted POG lower....all it would take is a Blankfein fart." -- mozel, 14:49:38 11/13/09 Fri
Apparently. they believe in some quarters that gold comes forth from Blankfein's anus and so kiss his ass.
I believe they will be greatly disappointed by what is actually delivered.
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- A lot going on next week - a few below - implications of China Visit?? -- APOLLO, 14:47:29 11/13/09 Fri
Monday - Obama does China
Tuesday - PPI
WEdnesday - CPI
Thursday - usual labor numbers/Obama announces all he did & leaves China
Friday - Opt-ex
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- Gold 1300 in Vietnam -- WALIAC, 14:47:25 11/13/09 Fri
I hate them for their freedom...
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- Talking out of both sides of one's mouth. -- JoeB (), 14:45:53 11/13/09 Fri
On one hand we have "naked shorts help price discovery." On the other hand we have markets that are completly controlled and devoid of any independence. Everyone following this? Anyone buy this? Orwell labelled this thought process as 'doublethink.' Interesting to watch it in action. Not surprising from whom it originates.
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- Talking out of both sides of one's mouth. -- JoeB, 14:42:58 11/13/09 Fri
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- India's first crack at IMF gold had more to do with nuclear trading -- mozel, 14:42:09 11/13/09 Fri
than with gold trading. Uranium is also a political metal.
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- The downside of a weak dollar -- Sherlock, -- 2bro2b, 14:39:04 11/13/09 Fri
from the article--
For the generations of college kids who learned the ABCs of global economics from Paul Samuelson, a weak dollar is supposed to tip the balance of trade in favor of the nation's exporters. So why is the trade deficit exploding?
from elsewhere--
The fondness of mainstream economists for socialism is seen in Samuelson's "Economics." In the 10th edition, published in 1976, Samuelson wrote, "It is a vulgar mistake to think that most people in Eastern Europe are miserable." Samuelson put the Soviet gross national product at "between one-half and three-fourths of ours in size." Graphs in the 10th and 11th editions showed Soviet GNP surpassing U.S. GNP around 2010, based on "best expert opinion."
A graph in the 12th edition, published in 1985, showed the Soviet economy growing 4.9% a year since 1928 compared with 3% a year for the U.S. since 1929. By the 1970s, however, there were signs that all was not well in the worker's paradise. The Soviet Union began importing vast amounts of U.S. grain. It was also borrowing heavily from foreign sources.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Samuelson is also author (and since 1985 co-author) of an influential principles textbook, Economics, first published in 1948, now in its 19th edition. The book has been translated into forty-one languages and sold over four million copies. Written in the shadow of the Great Depression and World War II, it helped to popularize the insights of John Maynard Keynes.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Econ Con 101 (one owe won)
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- Sherlock @ haven't had a losing trade in over two years -- RIP, 14:36:47 11/13/09 Fri
I assume you did one helluva job of shorting last year.
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- fort tungsten -- skys39, 14:36:11 11/13/09 Fri
lol
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- Next week will be busy -- Sherlock, 14:33:49 11/13/09 Fri
Lots of economic reports, and Obama also visits China. Which means, there are a lot more chances for bad news and lower stock prices. If you expect the numbers to be good and for Obama not to try to placate the chinese with talky- talky, about how we will reduce our deficits, and how we support a strong dollar, then go ahead and hold on. Myself. I took profits earlier on most of my gold stocks. I sold AUY my biggest holding at $12.75. Right now that's looking good. Next week. Who knows ? But I'll sleep much better this weekend. And besides, Rip says I worry too much. He 's probably right. But I still haven't had a losing trade in over two years. So maybe worrying too much is a good thing in this business?
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- The Indian gold purchase was not a statement of independence -- RIP, 14:33:13 11/13/09 Fri
It was an admission of subservience to the west's ability to dictate POG.
I'm sure they got a short term promise....lol
Little wonder....as I said....China doesn't even want IMF gold.
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- Stop the Big Banks -- skys39, 14:29:38 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.stopallbanks.com/
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- afternoon rollover -- skys39, 14:26:29 11/13/09 Fri
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=ABK&t=1d
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=mbi
wave bye bye
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- ... come move the earth under my feet .... -- BWP, 14:25:30 11/13/09 Fri
“You have a group of politically powerful oligarchs, whom other people hate, but who are entrenched there,” Kay, a visiting professor at the London School of Economics, said in an interview yesterday. “It will require something of a political earthquake” to reduce the bankers’ sway, he said."
... yeah, a political earthquake ... who's gonna arrange that, I ask ya? ... NOT ME! said the walrus ... FECK THAT! screeched the guppy .... and off they went ta count hangin' chads ...
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- Obama in China, through Tuesday@Sherlock -- BUFFORD, 14:25:12 11/13/09 Fri
?so R they going to spic ethat strong $ up for him in time
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- super rich wake up- sell hedge funds and buy gold -- mugwump, 14:24:21 11/13/09 Fri
about time- but hell, they're way ahead of joe six pack
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/cf7e4434-d03d-11de-a8db-00144feabdc0.html
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- edv hungry for another acquisition -- mugwump, 14:21:57 11/13/09 Fri
right- they have $120 million in cash and zero debt
http://www.miningweekly.com/article/endeavour-financial-already-looking-at-gold-deal-no-2-2009-10-13
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- gold already at $1300 in vietnam -- mugwump, 14:19:33 11/13/09 Fri
http://seekingalpha.com/article/173236-vietnam-gold-already-trading-at-1-300-per-ounce?source=yahoo
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- Why India....and why now? -- RIP, 14:17:49 11/13/09 Fri
That is what you need to ask.
India could have had all the gold they wanted at much cheaper prices.
The 'squid' runs the market.
If they wanted POG lower....all it would take is a Blankfein fart.
The only trick is in the distribution.
Who and when.
Why is for you to decide.
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- Washington events for Nov. 16 - 20 All times Eastern -- Sherlock, 14:17:20 11/13/09 Fri
President Obama in China, through Tuesday.....http://www.marketwatch.com/story/washington-events-for-nov-16-20-2009-11-13
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- interesting chart from goldballoons link at the tent -- BUFFORD (), 14:08:26 11/13/09 Fri
scroll down for pmpix
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Favorites.CServlet?obj=ID1748085&cmd=show[s171013550]&disp=O
http://www.thirdeyeopentrades.com/
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- ... yeah, it's true ...... -- BWP, 14:13:01 11/13/09 Fri
... we are spectators in the Theater Of The Absurd .... the actors speak and make the markets a joke ... the only audience takin' this whole thing seriously is the Little Grunt People ... Act II Scene III .... take a bow ...
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- The downside of a weak dollar -- Sherlock, 14:12:51 11/13/09 Fri
By MarketWatch
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- The latest international trade numbers border on blasphemy....http://www.marketwatch.com/story/weak-dollars-driving-the-us-deficit-2009-11-13
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- Apollo -- Mikikis, 14:11:02 11/13/09 Fri
You're right, Kip hasn't made calls that I know of...but he sometimes shares his positions and trades...which show his "ST calls."
Anyways, maybe he'll chime in here and say which way he's trading at this time....
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- Mikikis - I guess I did - have not noticed Kip "calls" -- APOLLO, 14:06:42 11/13/09 Fri
he always struck me as a contributing "chartist" & have deferred to Philbond on that who IMO is head & shoulders above all who attempt that on this board. But eyes of the beholder - like I said, nothing objectionable to say re KIP. He contributes & says a lot visa vie others.
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- Gold is out of the box ... it's running loose, and it's taking no prisoners ... -- mozel, 14:06:22 11/13/09 Fri
everybody with gold has an interest in having it exchangeable for more official paper and nobody has an interest in the contrary, except those who have committed to deliver gold at a lesser price already. Woe to them for they are outpowered and outnumbered.
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- ... Scrooge McSachs ... -- BWP, 14:03:23 11/13/09 Fri
"In an attempt to keep a low profile, The Goldman Sachs Group Inc. has told its employees that it won't be hosting a corporate Christmas party this year."
... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAaaaaaa .... what a show! ....
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- When gold first approached $280, it approached its fixed official paper valuation at the BIS. -- mozel, 13:54:41 11/13/09 Fri
The word circulated that BIS would buy freely in the open at prices below $280. There was nothing to lose by doing so.
Now that India has purchased gold at $1045, what has it to lose by purchasing gold at any lesser price, so long as it has dollars or can get dollars for its official paper ?
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- Apollo -- Mikikis (), 13:48:53 11/13/09 Fri
You asked me how I would feel if I learned that he was in fact short didn't you?
Look...USD goes lower then I'm happy with my silver...it goes higher and I'm happy about buying potentially cheaper gold (remember that I'm buying in CAD and coins so there are more factors at play than just the USD going up for me...gold needs to come down in CAD and the coin shop has to bring down the prices as well....not a sure thing at all). I cannot lose here right now.
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- Mikikis - I like Kip too -- APOLLO, 13:46:06 11/13/09 Fri
But I have not heard him call a top first of all & secondly, I am looking at the 3-mo on the USD & don't see that D-bottom holding (that was the crux of my post)
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- Kitcotodd -- Mikikis, 13:45:20 11/13/09 Fri
I don't trade anything anymore....so don't worry about me shorting anything. Looking to buy below $1100 and hold for much higher prices.
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- Apollo - Kip -- Mikikis, 13:43:26 11/13/09 Fri
His record speaks for itself.....that period was nice to see that the guy is human...his calling tops in gold have been remarkably accurate over the years.
I asked him on many occasions in my kindest language about his shorts at the time he placed them (the ones you mention)...he blew me off but laughed later about not listening to me...
I'd still take his YOY performance over most here any day of the week. I'd say that max. two people here post better numbers...if even that much.
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- phillips -- mugwump, 13:42:00 11/13/09 Fri
We have been prepped for this for so long now. It seems that the [concocted] cloud from the expected I.M.F. gold sales has been a threat to the gold price, for years. Now the clouds of speculation are being blown away and reality is presenting itself in a way never expected. Part of this has been the expectation that the I.M.F. gold sales would be dragged out over a long period. As we have been telling Subscribers for an equally long period, we did not think this would be the case, because the purpose of the sale was to maximize the proceeds and quickly. Now with India taking 200 tonnes of the 403.3 tonnes, our position has been verified.
India’s Gold Purchase - The Facts: -
The announcement of the sale of 200 of the 403.3 tonnes of gold at an average price of $1,045 is, we believe, the first of a minimum of two announcements that will see the 403.3 tonnes completely sold.
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- Mikikis -- RIP, 13:41:30 11/13/09 Fri
Nothing has to make sense.
Although we shall see.....and I'm hardly a dollar bear.
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- Mikikis - JMHO -- Kitcotodd, 13:41:27 11/13/09 Fri
but whatever pattern you see should be negated by the fact that gold is continuously making new highs. You should never short something like that to scalp a small move.
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- @ cheaper gold for me next week..... -- BWP, 13:38:25 11/13/09 Fri
... what, yer gonna steal some? ... that's the only way yer gonna get cheaper gold ... harken unto what I'm tellin' ya ... da 'splosion takes no prisoners ... ya been warned ...
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- saxena -- mugwump, 13:37:22 11/13/09 Fri
Scarcity factor – Throughout history, only 165,000 tonnes of gold has ever been mined. At today’s price, all this gold is valued at almost US$5.5 trillion which is a tiny sum when compared to the gigantic pools of base money in circulation. Remember, central banks are currently sitting on US$8 trillion worth of paper money reserves and the broad money supply on a global basis is a whopping US$60 trillion! As governments all over the world desperately create money out of thin air, it is our view that gold’s value will appreciate as its scarcity relative to printed currencies increases.
In parting, we firmly believe that the investment demand for gold will increase in the future. Fortunately, for the gold bulls, this incremental demand will be met by sales from current owners who will want a much higher price as compensation for parting with the ultimate store of value during these turbulent times.
Puru Saxena
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- I've seen the three-day move way too many times in gold -- Mikikis, 13:36:46 11/13/09 Fri
Big down, then back up...only to be followed by a longer and more pronounced down move.
Last $100 moved has yet to have much of a retrace in gold. $40 or $50 off $1122 seems healthy to me.
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- Mikikis - you know what they say about T-tops & T-lows -- APOLLO, 13:35:46 11/13/09 Fri
fold-em. & Kip was short in August - great guy & enjoy his posts & charts, but if he's short how would you really feel?
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- @"India buy already in profit...." So, India purchased gold with official paper -- mozel (), 13:31:31 11/13/09 Fri
which the exchange market now decrees is worth more in official paper than it was before.
When coin of gold is the money, you cannot buy any amount of gold with official paper. If you can buy gold with official paper, proving gold is not the money, then the amount of gold which can be had for an amount of official paper will be manipulated by those who can manipulate, both private and public.
RIP is reading this exactly correctly. Goldman Sachs is the Jay Gould of today but behind Sachs stands ... Rothschild's. Gold is rising in all official papers for reasons, reasons of self-interest.
The only way to prevent the corrupt manipulation by power of the ratio of official paper to gold is to forestall the concentration of gold by constituting gold coinage and payment and by supporting that constitution. Lack of support to this Constitution by corrupted judges is the reason this Constitution failed on the money questions.
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- RIP -- Mikikis (), 13:30:55 11/13/09 Fri
No, it makes sense here.....75 will hold for now in the USD and this may be a bull trap today in gold. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. Need to shake out some bulls here.
I am also hoping for it as it means somewhat cheaper gold for me next week.....so I stand to gain from a correction.
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- Mikikis @ correcting -- RIP, 13:27:08 11/13/09 Fri
Yer hoping....right?
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- ... plenny jobs comin' ... .... -- BWP, 13:26:40 11/13/09 Fri
"Nov. 13 (Bloomberg) -- Brazil, South Korea and Russia are losing the battle among developing nations to reduce gains in their currencies and keep exports competitive as the demand for their financial assets, driven by the slumping dollar, is proving more than central banks can handle."
... yeah, don't panic ... the leader o' the free whirld is hostin' a job summit ... the top suggestion is a bucket brigade ta bring water from the moon ...
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- 1118 ST top for gold -- Mikikis (), 13:18:45 11/13/09 Fri
If I was betting, I'd say that Kip shorted right there....am I correct?
Time to start correcting down 25-40 bucks into next week....
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- New highs for IAG/IMG -- RIP, 13:20:02 11/13/09 Fri
Wherever my bud Lou Gignac is....congrats.
About time you did something right.
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- ... bold new solutions ... -- BWP, 13:15:39 11/13/09 Fri
"The President announces White House will convene a meeting of business leaders, economists and labor representatives to brainstorm about job creation."
... yeah, go brainstorm while the solution is in frunna their eyes ... euthanasia fer the jobless ... if they ain't contributin' ta society, then they gotta stop wastin' our air 'n water ...
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- Nothing creates demand like high prices, the word 'peak'....and the possible word 'unobtainium' -- RIP, 13:15:38 11/13/09 Fri
When I look at the gold market....why do I keep thinking DeBeers?
Cabal to cartel?
Nah, can't be....I'm crazy.
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- y'all know where I stand so I'll just repeat yesterday's post -- WileE, 13:13:47 11/13/09 Fri
"Don't Worry, Be Happy":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU
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- Nicely phrased -- Earl, 13:11:58 11/13/09 Fri
November 13, 2009
More Shots In the Dark
Posted by Butler Shaffer on November 13, 2009 11:12 AM
Karen: whenever I read of scientists dismissing the uncertainties and unpredictabilities associated with complexity – such as giving uniform medications to people of diverse makeups – I feel obliged to remind them of an underlying premise of the study of chaos. Harlow Shapley expressed the matter in this way: “Chaos is but unperceived order; it is a word indicating the limitations of the human mind and the paucity of observational facts. The words ‘chaos,’ ‘accidental,’ ‘chance,’ ‘unpredictable,’ are conveniences behind which we hide our ignorance.” “Coincidence” and “anecdotal” are two additional words that serve the same end of disguising our inability to make predictions in a complex world.
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- tvi up 28%- heavy volume -- mugwump, 13:07:57 11/13/09 Fri
go ahead buy 100,000
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=TVI.TO
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- ... buy low, rip 'em high ... -- BWP, 12:58:28 11/13/09 Fri
"Former bankers look to buy failing banks: report- Reuters"
... what, ya want they should buy a 7-11? ... of course they're gonna buy banks ... that's what bankers do .... first ya bankrupt the bank then ya buy it cheap so ya can feck the Little People some more wif minimal cost ...
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- & the SM is now all about the USD -- APOLLO, 12:54:32 11/13/09 Fri
x - but when this thing turns - whoa. The SM is now a USD "Carry-trade" like so many other things - one major whipping up ahead at some point.
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- RIP - for those holding the metal & not stocks, agree - nice -- APOLLO, 12:47:39 11/13/09 Fri
but as most of us hear hold a lot in PM stocks - we go up much faster when both the metal & the SM go higher.
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- ... fiat wimps .... -- BWP, 12:47:28 11/13/09 Fri
"Nov. 13 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve’s policy of keeping interest rates near zero is fueling a wave of speculative capital that may cause the next global crisis, Hong Kong’s leader said. “I’m scared and leaders should look out,” said Donald Tsang, chief executive of the city, said in Singapore today."
.... yeah, be scared, ya sissy ... feckin' whinin' is drivin' me nuts ... what's the worse that can happen? ... war, pestilence, disease, famine and a total collapse of civilization ... big deal ... me, I got my Maple ...
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- GlodStox - Oh, yes.. -- Glyndwr (), 12:38:11 11/13/09 Fri
Frus' chart back in the game, so far.. http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$XAU:$GOLD&p=W&st=1980-08-01&id=p00680254452&a=158843719 (Check it later).
(PS, Frus. Great Kitty news..).
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- ... we been stimulized .... -- BWP, 12:39:22 11/13/09 Fri
"Leaders warn against pulling stimulus too quickly- AP"
... yeah, pull this! ... these dimwits finally realize that this entire Market/Dollar Surge is driven solely by the stimulus ... the idea was ta prime the well ... too bad there ain't no ground water ta take over ....
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- @ what I like -- RIP, 12:38:18 11/13/09 Fri
Even though the dollar is down....gold is still higher in virtually every currency.
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- fr completes acquisition of normabec -- mugwump, 12:34:52 11/13/09 Fri
http://ca.us.biz.yahoo.com/iw/091113/0559022.html?.v=1
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- osisko options property -- mugwump, 12:32:23 11/13/09 Fri
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Osisko-Options-Goldboro-Gold-iw-896738161.html?x=0&.v=1
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- Wow....look at those COMEX paper pushers hammer POG again -- RIP, 12:32:02 11/13/09 Fri
Have mercy.
Will it ever end?
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- ... DA 'SPLOSION CONTINUES !!! -- BWP, 12:31:48 11/13/09 Fri
... luv that yellah crap .... TODAMOON! ... yeah, quit fartin' around and let's boogie .... next stop? ... a sudden awe-inspirin' thrust ta $1207.56 ... the numbers came ta me inna vision so it's legit ...
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- int royalty net income -- mugwump, 12:31:03 11/13/09 Fri
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/International-Royalty-prnews-3399453720.html?x=0&.v=1
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- if anyone bothered to read the Inflation Report for Turkey, Qtr3, 2009, -- MichaelH, 12:18:40 11/13/09 Fri
fallofal, you have comic potential.
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- Here's what I like - we break 75 & we may see the 72-71 -- APOLLO, 12:15:58 11/13/09 Fri
quicker than anyone thinks - we are going through 1100 S&P - the USD is taking us there. H&S on the 3-mo & it turned real quick - back down.
http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX&v=d1
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- @mudturtle @check out gold's Purchasing Power in Vietnam -- mozel, 12:02:13 11/13/09 Fri
"Gold takes no prisoners" is not a marketing slogan. POG is Death to Commie Schemes. Goobye, State of Wisconsin, though it may outlive yuh since, a long, slow dying of the creatures of the wicked is not unheard of.
If you had heeded any of my posts on olde kitco, you would have disqualified the OSHA bitche. But, hey, do it your way! You remind me of dan, expecting a fair trial when he was already deemed guilty in the eyes of the legal administration of the parish.
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- ROAN's Hana Mining +16% -- siempre33, 11:59:01 11/13/09 Fri
http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=HMG.V
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- weeeee...! -- skys39, 11:49:33 11/13/09 Fri
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- MMG on the move -- siempre33, 11:49:12 11/13/09 Fri
Silver & zinc....they'll still be drilling on the Sierra Mojada Project for decades. There's so much mineralization there on their 10's of thousands of acres that it will likely produce ore for generations to come. For the current drilling, it's a matter of drilling out the mineralization that's in the scope of this feasibility study.
Here's some history on the Au/Ag ratio, with a longer term perspective:
http://www.resourceinvestor.com/News/2009/6/Pages/The-history-of-the-goldsilver-ratio.aspx
http://seekingalpha.com/article/152876-the-gold-silver-ratio-from-1300-to-1900-and-now
http://seekingalpha.com/article/14922-is-the-old-gold-silver-ratio-of-16-still-alive-today
http://news.silverseek.com/TedButler/1161705933.php
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- Mike "Mish" Shedlock -- Sherlock, 11:38:31 11/13/09 Fri
Inquiring minds are interested in figuring out how long it might take to get back to "full employment" defined as 5%....http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/
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- Dunno if it'll hold.. -- Glyndwr, 11:33:22 11/13/09 Fri
But Glodstox are having a Revival Day, % wise, Vs glod.. Check it out.bbl
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- Art Cashin has been saying that since mid-Sept -- APOLLO, 11:33:00 11/13/09 Fri
In fact, I noticed that CNBC has stopped interviewing him every morning "Cashin In" as he has been an undeterred Bear.
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- Art Cashin: Why Markets Face 'Enormous' 1-Day Swings -- Sherlock, 11:30:36 11/13/09 Fri
By: JeeYeon Park
CNBC News Associate
The U.S. dollar rose on Thursday as policymakers around the world warned the economic recovery was fragile, prompting investors to take profits on gains in higher-yielding currencies and assets
Art Cashin, director of floor operations at UBS Financial Services, shared his insights on the greenback and the stock markets....http://www.cnbc.com/id/33909205
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- TVIPF +41.09% -- Romanov (), 10:38:58 11/13/09 Fri
Earnings 3qtr. C$.02.
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- expect the price of products to reflect the new reality -- 2bro2b, 11:20:21 11/13/09 Fri
That's why you only tax the rich. Oh, and corporations, business. Japan and US tied at first place 39% corporate tax, all others also-ran(d)s. Some's are taxpayers, where it is paid, some's are tax collectors, where it is imposed. It is so damn expensive being poor. Given a Nation of Debt to be paid, hopefully it won't get more expensive just more poor.
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- b_w -- siempre33, 11:17:45 11/13/09 Fri
you've got mail...
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- is this sending Gold higher? -- siempre33, 11:14:13 11/13/09 Fri
bad newz for US trade deficit....breaking..
http://www.rttnews.com/
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- chinese buy cars -- johnny, 11:11:46 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.platinum.matthey.com//media-room/news-room/chinese-auto-sales-surge-in-october-as-us-sees-stabilisation/19454671.html
perhaps mr turtle will recall my over the wall reaction
to van eeden's "study" which showed that china would
"crater" if its exports to the USSA dropped .. the guy
is an idiot.
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- stx - yes, it is -- WALIAC, 11:09:26 11/13/09 Fri
But I know exactly what he's going through and don't fault his decision whichever way it goes. This parasite that is eating the heart out of America is now also predatory, and will only get worse as it front-runs its demands by over spending.
I've had several ideas/offers to begin new business ventures but lack any desire to invest in this or any country on a one way trip into the sewer.
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- Siempre33...Silver certainly has been stinking it up this -- BUFFORD, 11:04:37 11/13/09 Fri
month...............I just sold everything I bought a couple of weeks ago. I'll wait until these options expire next week before going back in.
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- Red Flag re SM - neither the BKX or XLF is along for the ride/bounce -- APOLLO, 11:04:25 11/13/09 Fri
FAZ is actually green with the DOW up 80 points.
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- Ahhh ! -- Sherlock, 11:01:05 11/13/09 Fri
That's much better.
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- At last - dolla responds. -- Glyndwr, 10:59:50 11/13/09 Fri
Oddly presaged by the SMs. Glod Majors looking good, relative. bbl
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- Well, we are headed towards a 3rd attempt to break S&P 1100 -- APOLLO, 10:56:57 11/13/09 Fri
or, if it turns right here, we are a bit of an H&S on the S&P on a 5-day chart. Watching.
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- BUFFORD :: Silver -- siempre33, 10:54:15 11/13/09 Fri
I REALLY hope you're right.....
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- no abiotic music in the rocks either -- 2bro2b, 10:52:57 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/hubbert-peak-theory-of-oil-rock/comment-page-1/#comment-234313
http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/09/23/the-hubbert-peak-theory-of-rock-or-why-were-all-out-of-good-songs/
If the music sounds a littled peaked to boomers' ears,
maybe it's flashbacks, hearing what is seen in the mirror coming out of the speakers.
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- Who thinks up this shit? -- Sherlock, 10:52:00 11/13/09 Fri
Carbon Insurance For Your Car May Be Down The Road--By: Terry Tamminen
Contributor
Would you like carbon insurance with that latte?
You might not hear that exact question any time soon, but don’t be surprised if companies start shifting carbon risk from their balance sheets to someone else’s, using the time-honored marketplace tool of insurance. And when that happens, expect the price of products to reflect the new reality....http://www.cnbc.com/id/33906802
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- Bart Chilton (friend of the bugz) probably sent an email -- BUFFORD, 10:49:01 11/13/09 Fri
to his silver shorting pals that he'll give them one more chance to cover......
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- SilverFox -- Mikikis (), 10:44:46 11/13/09 Fri
Regarding parenting.....most definitely a full time thing. My son lives 5/7 days of the week with me, and for that time it is pretty much just the two of us (he spends an hour or two with with his mother some of those days). In my short time on this planet I have found nothing nearly as rewarding as being a part of my son's life.
Also gone for the day....hope your health situation improves.
....doesn't look like gold wants to go below $1100...if this persists it may just explode to the upside again and I may have to decide whether to chase it or not.....we'll see.....hope not...
...may just buy it today and get it over with....
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- Poor man's gold may be an investor's treasure -- Sherlock, 10:39:50 11/13/09 Fri
By Myra P. Saefong, MarketWatch
TOKYO (MarketWatch) -- Silver's not so much a poor man's gold anymore and investors may soon realize that the white metal's the real treasure....
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/poor-mans-gold-may-be-an-investors-treasure-2009-11-13
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- I dunno Frustrated.... NGD is the strongest stock I'm watching. -- Kitcotodd, 10:38:34 11/13/09 Fri
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- PM stocks -- Sherlock, 10:35:49 11/13/09 Fri
GDX underperforming GLD again.
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- Mikikis, -- SilverFox, 10:35:11 11/13/09 Fri
Parenting is a full time occupation. Well done on the building. I have three children two in university and one in high school. They are a great joy in my life. I have retired from the world because of health reasons but in my past I was in management, a stock broker and a teacher. Loved all my jobs. My hobby is building up my retirement nest egg. Well have a good day I am off to see my Doctor regarding my health.
cheers
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- SilverFox -- Mikikis (), 10:29:51 11/13/09 Fri
Just no longer fits in my life the way it did before (trading, stock market). Every man decides what works best for him...in my case it involves less of that and more of my role as a father....maybe 10-15 years down the line I'll return to it....who knows? Being a full-time dad and doing a good job at it isn't really compatible with 3-4 simultaneous jobs (calling trading a 'job' as well here) at any given moment. I dropped two different activities recently, building and trading. Picked up a totally new project that involves more control over my schedule (maybe in a few months I can talk more about it) - still involved with a couple of other businesses....also with lots of control over my schedule. Nice to see that I did a good job at building....have turned down 3 fairly big projects in the past month alone....people still seeking me out even though I have "retired" from that world.
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- Mikikis -- SilverFox, 10:16:19 11/13/09 Fri
Sorry missed your previous post. I am woundering if I will also pull the plug on the shares. I do not like what I am seeing. They are so easily manipulated with naked shorting. I will be away for a few weeks leaving Saturday. When I return I will most likely be taking money out of the market. I have just recently recovered from last years take down in commodities and do not want to do it again. Currently I have been in the market to long and want a break therefore will most likely be out by spring.
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- SilverFox -- Mikikis (), 10:11:19 11/13/09 Fri
I replied to your post about the Van dealer....spoke about the fires in downtown Van....did you miss it?
(13:46:59 11/12/09 Thu )
Been pretty much all physical for a while now - with respect to my PMs. I have also been completely out of the stock markets for about a month now. My paper certs were sold up until about this past summer....all physical left.
I'm just not too happy having this money sit in CAD if it can be held in gold coin....even if it is only during these next 3-9 months or so. Since it is money that I will be spending, I will be cashing them into CAD as needed.....
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- Waliac -- stx, 10:14:00 11/13/09 Fri
Sad state of affairs if the parasitic goo cause mudturtle to quit his business.
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- GSC true to form -- SilverFox, 10:12:10 11/13/09 Fri
This management team couldn't make a profit even if they owned the printing presses. A company that can not make a profit even at 1100 gold. What a waste of oxygen keeping those guys alive!
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- -- -- Winston, 10:06:12 11/13/09 Fri
Charles Nenner video-- he says that after a short deflation scare, we will have 30 years of inflation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4XW3_zSxQc
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- Mikikis -- SilverFox, 10:05:55 11/13/09 Fri
Did you get that post I gave you regarding Vancouver dealers? Looks like your banking some of your paper profits into physical. Good luck. I had purchased my physical positions years ago and have not added to them. The problem has always been the Canadian dollar. When gold and silver were cheap, the exchange rate sucked. Therefore while most Americans have seen a 4x return up here in the north 2x is the best so far. When i was buying i had to covert 1.5 to 1.6 for I US dollar. Than the Canadian dollar become stronger and now my stupid Central Bank is trying to keep the Canadian dollar weak again. In reality we should be 2x relative to the US dollar, given the mess taking place in the States. But up here in Canada our goverment officals are wankers!
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- mudturtlee - do like the big shots -- WALIAC, 10:04:25 11/13/09 Fri
Pay the fine but admit no guilt.
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- Consumer sentiment pulls back in early Nov, UMich -- Sherlock, 10:03:59 11/13/09 Fri
By Greg Robb
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Consumer sentiment pulled back in early November, according to media reports on Friday of the Reuters/University of Michigan index. The consumer sentiment index fell to 66.0 from 70.6 in October. The decrease was unexpected. The consensus forecast of Wall Street economists was for sentiment to rise to 71.8. After hitting 73.5 in September, the index has now fallen in two straight months.
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- when genius flails -- 2bro2b, 09:55:45 11/13/09 Fri
Martin A. Armstrong, the director of Princeton
Economics International Ltd., an investment-advisory firm that has
allegedly lost as much as $950 million in Japanese corporate investment
money, was arrested and charged with securities fraud in New York.
Mr. Armstrong is a 49-year-old market
forecaster in New Jersey who has been widely
quoted about commodities and other
investments and has long been one of the most
active silver traders on the New York
Mercantile Exchange's Comex division. He
was also the subject of a separate civil
complaint filed Monday following an
investigation by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and
Commodity Futures Trading Commission.
Despite his active silver trading, it is difficult to tell exactly how much of
Comex's silver stockpiles Mr. Armstrong controls. What is clear is that he
also had strong views about gold. In recent weeks Mr. Armstrong's
predictions for gold had become exceedingly bearish.
However, Comex gold prices -- though in a sharp downtrend in recent
years -- are essentially unchanged compared with a year ago and actually
have risen modestly lately. Since the beginning of August, prices have
advanced $1 an ounce to $257.20. "My guess is that his silver strategy
would have been following his gold strategy, which was extremely bearish,"
one New York metals analyst said.
September 14, 1999
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/rfi/press/princeton.htm
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- Silverfox - "They need to bring them down by next week." -- Mikikis (), 09:52:08 11/13/09 Fri
Starting to see the mild correction then are ya? Fair or unfair it looks possible here. I'd give it a 50/50 chance at this point. Hope you are right....wouldn't mind getting gold cheaper and buying next week....problem of course is that the coin prices don't move much with the metals....the premiums just increase generally...all the same the coins I am looking at are down a few bucks....wouldn't mind $20 more CAD off the price.....
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- NGD... -- Frustrated, 09:36:53 11/13/09 Fri
saw it go as low as 3.45 in after hours yesterday...and
the MM just moved it from 3.87 to 3.98 on a about 5K
shares to keep the uncertainty alive I guess...
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- impala/wallbridge drill results -- mugwump, 09:33:03 11/13/09 Fri
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Wallbridge-Mining-Reports-800-prnews-2863728030.html?x=0&.v=16
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- Same BS almost evertime -- SilverFox (), 09:27:08 11/13/09 Fri
Gold up nicely in Asia and the US dollar was down hard. Just before the US market opens, the Crimex boys start the rigging. Firstly make the US dollar look strong and take gold down. Between London and Crimex these boys have been allowed to make money without a printing press. Would sure be nice to see them get badly burned. But with the Blessing of the US Fed, lots of luck. Currently 10,000 gold contracts in the money. They need to bring them down by next week.
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- @ USA Loves Paper Check ... -- MoreGold, 09:28:22 11/13/09 Fri
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- mugs--thanks for reminding me I own some tvi -- playrightman, 09:24:05 11/13/09 Fri
Can't remember why I bought it, and haven't sold it.
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- NGD... -- Frustrated, 09:22:16 11/13/09 Fri
anyone have an opinion as to how this is going to impact NGD?
I know they filed an appeal...but problems?
MONTREAL, QUEBEC--(Marketwire - Nov. 12, 2009) - In a press conference held in Mexico City on November 10th, Mauricio Limon, Undersecretary for Environmental Protection at the Mexican ministry of the Environment and Natural Resources (SEMARNAT), declared that the ministry would enforce a recent superior court ruling and withdraw New Gold's (NGD:$3.81,00$0.00,000.00%) environmental impact permit between now and Friday, November 13th. The company, he declared, would at that point have to cease operations at its Cerro de San Pedro project. The Undersecretary's statements were reported in the November 11th edition of La Jornada, one of Mexico's leading national newspapers.(1)
On September 24th, the Federal Fiscal and Administrative Justice Tribunal of Mexico ruled that the SEMARNAT must retire the permit granted to the company back in April 2006. The tribunal gave the ministry until the 13th of November to apply this ruling.
In response, a bi-national declaration was signed this week by Canadian Parliamentarians and members of the Mexican congress urging the relevant Mexican authorities to enforce the tribunal's decision. It was signed by Gilles Duceppe, Pierre Paquette, Francine Lalonde and Johanne Deschamps for the Bloc Quebecois; Jack Layton, Peter Julian and Paul Dewar for the New Democratic Party; Elizabeth May for the Green Party; Alejandro Encinas Rodriguez for the seventy members of the Partido de la Revolucion Democratica; and Pedro Vasquez Gonzalez for the thirteen members of the Partido del Trabajo.
The declaration notes the severe and in many cases irremediable damages that New Gold's project has wrought to the valley of San Luis Potosi - inhabited by approximately 1.3 million people - since it began operations in 2006. It supports the ruling of the Mexican tribunals in putting an end to this project, calls upon the relevant Mexican authorities to enforce this ruling and demands that New Gold-Minera San Xavier respect the laws of Mexico.
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- azau re: tvi -- mugwump, 09:19:07 11/13/09 Fri
yes, success at last!! lol!! still cheap at 6 centavos- go ahead, buy 10,000
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- Mebbe Ron's son, one day, might eventually connect... -- Glyndwr, 09:00:25 11/13/09 Fri
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- BHP -- siempre33, 08:57:13 11/13/09 Fri
SYDNEY — Three potential bidders remain in the running for BHP Billiton Ltd.'s failed Ravensthorpe nickel operation in Western Australia state, with final bids due Nov. 25, people familiar with the situation said Friday.
Australia's Minara Resources Ltd. as well as Poseidon Nickel Ltd. and China Metallurgical Group Corp., or MCC, are all still taking part in the sales process for the idled nickel laterite operation, two people familiar with the bidding process said.
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- Figs - 08.30 -- Glyndwr, 08:56:45 11/13/09 Fri
Dolla dint seem to like it, for now. http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/ecalendar/index.html
Cons. Sentiment 09:55 next.
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- RonP. Just finished a diatribe on CNBC -- Glyndwr, 08:54:08 11/13/09 Fri
Anti-Fed stuff - Kiernan and Liesman lapping it up. What's going on?
(Unfortunately, Ron, as usual, still too abstruse for Joe6, but hey, good airtime..).
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- Hug-a-jew day -- Smythe, 08:39:44 11/13/09 Fri
Followed by Jew-hug-a-palesitian day.
Maybe they should just return the money and land, in lieu of a hug, or for the price of a hug ?
Maybe we should just hug the guys who stole our future. Fair swap.
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- Formula1 trading -- 2bro2b, 08:18:09 11/13/09 Fri
Yet Formula-1 is a dangerous sport, not dissimilar from surfing the edge of leveraged FX. Shit happens. Markets move often unexpectedly, and frequently in the wrong direction. Stops are triggered. Margin calls are issued, positions puked triggering yet more stops, and further negative gamma hedging from those short OTM vol. JPY moves 17 big figures overnight. Ouch!!
http://nihoncassandra.blogspot.com/
Dontcha just love these markets, freeze a sec in those damn new xenon headlights while trying to heel-and-toe through the S-curves, say hello to Mr. Wall.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SO desperate are they, that they are competing to put their computers INSIDE the exchange's computers.
http://nihoncassandra.blogspot.com/2009/11/first-call-before-first-call.html
Some inside baseball on insider's baseball. Any home team trying to strike it rich striking out, no joy in Mudville,
Casey better watch their speed.
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- Daily Pfennig -- siempre33, 08:17:54 11/13/09 Fri
Neil Barofsky, the special inspector general for the $700 Billion TARP bailout said the program will "almost certainly result in a loss to taxpayers"... "We need to temper or be realistic about our expectations, a dollar-for-dollar return is just highly unrealistic." Barofsky also said that he's conducting 65 investigations of possible fraud..."
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- "Why Gold is Going to $5000" -- Winston, 23:48:57 11/12/09 Thu -- 2bro2b, 07:40:54 11/13/09 Fri
That's a very good one for a change, a must read for any bug if only to be challenged in one's convictions. If there is any substance to Armstrong's iconoclastic framework of the structural underpinnings of the gold market accounting for its price movements then there is no merit to any other analysis out there, utterly incompatible. Gotta give'm credit at least for thinking for himself. There's all that other contradictory, conflicting analysis stuff in one big gold wilderness mess and then there's Marty, oblique ho!
http://www.martinarmstrong.org/files/GOLD-5000-11-11-09.pdf
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- mugwump, will tvi finally move up with healthy production at -- AZAU, 07:15:59 11/13/09 Fri
Canutuan? They have stayed with it, and deserve to succeed now. Their Chinese market can't get enough copper, and it appears TVI will be producing zinc as well.
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- mozel, yes, geronimo died in prison. Look it up. -- AZAU, 06:55:57 11/13/09 Fri
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- Fake Gold Bars 'round the whirled.....What a Surprise (NOT)! -- AZAU (), 06:42:34 11/13/09 Fri
Let this be a lesson to all who invest in the ETF's and don't have possession of their own gold.
The entire world economy is a Titanic Scam that will go down like its namesake.
Lampposts Aweigh!
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- Hug-A-Jew Day This Friday -- Iainmac, 06:18:58 11/13/09 Fri
In today’s world there are many organizations fighting against anti-Semitism, striving towards new legislation to renewed awareness, and all of them are making a difference. But these conventional avenues take time and money and a great deal of planning.
How about in the meantime we all just hug it out? That’s the theory behind Hug A Jew Day set to take place this Friday November 13th at the stroke of midnight, wherever you are in the world. The concept is as simple as the day, find a Jewish person and give him or her a hug. It can be one or one hundred, the choice is yours to make.
http://jerusalemblueprint.com/articles/view.aspx?id=596
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- a couple of yrs ago, the street wouldn't -- mugwump, 05:56:02 11/13/09 Fri
have mentioned ANY gold stock let alone compare ego with gg-lol!! boy are they behind the curve
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- the street finally pays attention to ego -- mugwump, 05:54:20 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.thestreet.com/story/10626015/2/beating-barrick-goldcorp-under-the-radar.html
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- hydrocarbons- the reality vs the hype -- mugwump, 05:47:49 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm?aid=2570
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- dollar resumes march to zero -- mugwump, 05:41:44 11/13/09 Fri
http://www2.barchart.com/mktcom.asp?code=BSTK
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- well .. bbl .. -- Delta-au, 05:00:50 11/13/09 Fri
gotta better offer ..
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- ok -- Delta-au, 05:00:03 11/13/09 Fri
..
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- Tungsten .. why W? -- Delta-au, 04:59:37 11/13/09 Fri
W = Wolfram .. figure that one ..
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- delta -- mugwump, 04:59:18 11/13/09 Fri
the early bird gets the worm............
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- mugwump .. -- Delta-au, 04:58:26 11/13/09 Fri
mugwump ..yer up early ..
or ..
you've moved WEST ..
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- gold won't drop below $1000 faber -- mugwump, 04:58:24 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20603037&sid=az6qQ8ZuXg9M
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- Tungsten & Gold -- Delta-au (), 04:54:19 11/13/09 Fri
gm/cc ..
W 19.30
Au 19.25
IOW, a good substitute on density measure ..
not sure how the colour would go ..
as W is greyish / white metal ..
sorta like Platinum I guess ..
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- exn buys platosa -- mugwump, 04:51:47 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.mexicomike.ca/php/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3335&sid=b327809d1772f8c01b083eddb0b52aab
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- abx and peak gold -- mugwump, 04:46:45 11/13/09 Fri
http://seekingalpha.com/article/173031-barrick-gold-confirms-we-ve-reached-peak-gold?source=yahoo
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- tvi net $9 million- cheap too -- mugwump, 04:44:46 11/13/09 Fri
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/TVI-Pacific-Announces-Record-ccn-703451908.html?x=0&.v=1
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- SA platinum also slumped -- mugwump, 04:40:58 11/13/09 Fri
The main causes of the plunge in output in September were strikes and mine accidents, which led to a 20% fall in the production of platinum group metals compared with output in the previous month.
In the year to September, output of platinum, palladium, rhodium and iridium slumped nearly 40%.
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- SA gold production down another 9% -- mugwump, 04:39:36 11/13/09 Fri
http://allafrica.com/stories/200911130147.html
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- global warming? tell china -- mugwump, 04:37:50 11/13/09 Fri
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091113/ap_on_re_as/as_china_snow_storms
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- Got tungsten? -- Iainmac, 04:36:12 11/13/09 Fri
“Gold Finger - A New Take On Operation Grand Slam With A Tungsten Twist”
I’ve already reported on irregular physical gold settlements which occurred in London, England back in the first week of October, 2009. Specifically, these settlements involved the intermediation of at least one Central Bank [The Bank of England] to resolve allocated settlements on behalf of J.P. Morgan and Deutsche Bank – who DID NOT have the gold bullion that they had sold short and were contracted to deliver. At the same time I reported on two other unusual occurrences:
1] - irregularities in the publication of the gold ETF - GLD’s bar list from Sept. 25 – Oct.14 where the length of the bar list went from 1,381 pages to under 200 pages and then back up to 800 or so pages.
2] - reports of 400 oz. “good delivery” bricks of gold found gutted and filled with tungsten within the confines of LBMA approved vaults in Hong Kong.
Why Tungsten?
If anyone were contemplating creating “fake” gold bars, tungsten [at roughly $10 per pound] would be the metal of choice since it has the exact same density as gold making a fake bar salted with tungsten indistinguishable from a solid gold bar by simply weighing it.
Unfortunately, there are now more sordid details to report.
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article14996.html
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- 0 -- mudturtle (), 04:24:10 11/13/09 Fri
0.
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- you talkin about da past mr turtle -- johnny, 04:11:06 11/13/09 Fri
les talk about da fucha
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- Vietnam to import gold to stabilize gold price in domestic market -- Iainmac, 04:10:47 11/13/09 Fri
HANOI, Nov. 13 (Xinhua) -- Vietnam will import gold after being halted since May 2008, said a report on the website of the State Bank of Vietnam on Friday.
The move aims to stabilize the gold price in the domestic market which has been pushed up at a record high in the past days, said the bank.
The move followed the gold price in the domestic market reaching a record high of about 1,622 U.S. dollars a gold bar, weighing 37.5 grams. The price is higher than the gold price in the international market which was hovering at 1,122 U.S. dollars an ounce.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-11/13/content_12450356.htm
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- I am not about to subject my valued employees to working -- mudturtle, 04:04:20 11/13/09 Fri
conditions that expose them to dangers from fork trucks.
In order to get out of the 600 dollar fine and reduce it to 460, I have to admit placing my valued friends in the sort of danger that gets the central government involved. For the sake of my employees I am going to end the danger for them and end this business. Someone with a better eye for safety can get it for a song.(if it does not violate OSHA noise rules)
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- As a very evil employer -- mudturtle, 03:46:55 11/13/09 Fri
I got nailed for a 600 dollar fine for not having government approved training for the occasional fork truck drivers in my shop. OSHA was called in for far more severe hazards that just weren't there at all. They needed something and are making me a deal that if I admit to being a rotten and careless employer they will reduce the fine for a lack of a formal degreed program for the peons that are too inept to function without a piece of paper that certifies their intelligence in moving a pallet of steel.
I should have shown pictures of the GLD pallet setup to the OSHA gal that fined me, and asked her to give an opinion on the safety of the GLD ETF warehouse technique.
I will do that.
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- mudturtle you did not listen to what I said... -- Nuclearson (), 03:09:39 11/13/09 Fri
when two planes are right beside each other and one has a tail that stretches out of sight over the horizon and the other one just appears to be an inch or two long from my vantage point...not a cloud in the sky, totally dry blue sky...
"one of these things is not like the other..." I learned that on sesame street...
look for yourself...about one in 10 planes has a tail that defies explanation in the context of what the other 9 are doing.
does not take a genius to see that something is afoot..
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- Nuclearson, 03:01 -- mudturtle, 03:06:13 11/13/09 Fri
The weather conditions in the eastern US are holding con trails far longer than usual. Don't read too much into the stable atmosphere. The criss cross trails here can be assigned to individual flights of passengers going somewhere.
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- Prime8, 00:17 -- mudturtle, 03:02:09 11/13/09 Fri
It is good that you have some fun with Lord Blankfein's idiotic pronunciamentoes.
This one from zerohedge sort of confirmed my suspicions i the worst way. I am a manufacturer in what is left of --- what's left in the USA and I am getting killed by the costs from steel and magnesium.
RIP will get prissy on how he posted this before I re-do it. My fault is that I don't post during my working hours much at all, unlike the idle rich goldbugs that have nothing more to do than stir up some shit on an obscure website.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-goldman%E2%80%99s-global-oil-scam-passes-50-madoff-mark
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That link is a fat warning to the Rah-rah set that looks for a run to 1500 and then 3500/5000. We are not there yet. The purchsing power of gold ounces now are very high. Go price some goods or services in the USD1100 glod of now. My next door neighbor's house price is 327 ounces. When my wife and myself bought next door to him, that house was 517 oz.
You know the drill and the charts of what has happened to the gold price of now when buying housing real estate. The boomers have lost only 40% if they are lucky. Squirming Boomers fail to arouse my sympathy. I saw porseffer Mishkin on the CNBC/Becky Quick suckup to "Rick" mishkin prior to the extravaganza of having a load of MBA tapeworm junior segments of Columbia University.
Mishkin forgot to mention that he was dead wrong on every single academic bilge that he did in the past twenty years. Mishkin was the headliner and the guy that got the big money for his treatise on just why Iceland's banking system would come out really swell in their gigantic leverage based upon banking fraud.
If CNBC has a video clip of mizz Quick and Frederic(aka. "Rick Mishkin", and Steve Liesman,, you should watch it for the powerful emetic qualities.
Yeah, sure there should be a strong reversal of the USD and a drop in USD POG to 945. I don't care to hedge that. Gold is so vastly overvalued in all fiats that it should take a twelve per-cent dump, but it isn't. Is it pricing in the relative value of the FRN and the people that are enslaved to back it up? We have the old Mexican Standoff in all fiats now. Blink?
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- alot of chemtrail activity the past week or so with these clear skys... -- Nuclearson, 03:01:22 11/13/09 Fri
Was looking in the sky yesterday and saw 2 normal contrails right beside a plane with a chemtrail that was 20 times longer than the contrails...pointed it out to a few people they looked at me like I was crazy...there it was for all to see, but only one other guy seemed to understand that something was not right...we are sooo fcuked!
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- India buy already in profit.... -- Iainmac, 02:49:12 11/13/09 Fri
RBI's big gold buy yields Rs 1500 crore
AHMEDABAD: The Reserve Bank of India’s (RBI) decision to buy 200 tonnes of gold at a value of $6.7 billion from International Monetary Fund in October end has already yielded a notional gain of whopping Rs 1,544 crore.
Since the announcement of the big buy on November 3, 2009, RBI has made a gain of a whopping Rs 1,544 crore, considering the international price of gold at $1,115 per ounce at 6 pm on November 12. The average price of RBI purchase was $1,045 per ounce. RBI had purchased 200 tonnes of gold over a two-week period during October 19-30 this year at market-based prices.
Going by the popular belief that gold loves bad news, RBI’s move clearly suggests that it wants to diversify the forex holding in order to protect against the slumping dollar.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/RBIs-big-gold-buy-yields-Rs-1500-crore/articleshow/5225875.cms
(1 crore equals 10 million)
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- -- -- Winston, 00:31:12 11/13/09 Fri
crazytimes' 05:29 -- ANOTHER Pentagon 'Jessica Lynch' story that didn't happen.
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- Johnny -- oilboiler (), 00:27:13 11/13/09 Fri
ice at the equator with 100 times more co2 in the air than
now .. bit of a king hit to the global warming baloney
************
We would think so, but governments have invested a huge amount of money in the propaganda effort , trying to tax and control energy. There are still too many idiots out there, but the tide is turning.
http://www.climatedepot.com/
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-%20blog
http://wattsupwiththat.com/
">http://www.iceagenow.com/
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- ... -- Prime8, 00:17:21 11/13/09 Fri
God's Work and Goldman's Prayer
In case you missed it Goldman Sachs CEO Says Bank is Doing 'God's Work'.
While acknowledging the role of banks in the financial meltdown, the CEO of Goldman Sachs said recently he believes his company is doing "God's work."
"We're very important. We help companies to grow by helping them to raise capital. Companies that grow create wealth," CEO Lloyd Blankfein said in a recent interview. "This, in turn, allows people to have jobs that create more growth and more wealth. We have a social purpose."
Given that Goldman is doing "God's work" and that CEO Lloyd Blankfein is arguably "god on earth", it is fitting for there to be a prayer in his honor.
Tonight I received a prayer in the email dedicated to Lloyd. Unfortunately I do not know the origin, so I do not know who to credit. I also modified a few sentences that I did not think fit very well and added sentences where they were missing.
My Version of "Lloyd's Prayer"
Our chairman who art at Goldman
Blankfein be thy name
Thy rally’s come, God’s work be done
In the Dow as it is in the Nasdaq
Give us this day our daily gain
And forgive us our frontruning, as we punish those who frontrun against us
And bring us not under indictment
But deliver us from regulators
For thine is the cashflow, and the power, and the bonuses, forever and ever. Amen
Version as Received
OUR CHAIRMAN
WHO ART AT GOLDMAN
HALLOWED BE THY NAME
THE RALLYS COME,GODS WORK BE DONE
WE HAVE NO FEAR OF CORRECTION
GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY GAIN
AND BANKRUPT OUR NEAREST COMPETITORS
LEAVING NO ONE LEFT TO STAND AGAINST US
AND BRING US NOT UNDER INDICTMENT
FOR THINE IS THE TREASURY
AND THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE
FOREVER AND EVER
GOLDMAN
Addendum:
"Black Swan" Comments:
When I went to elementary school, we started each day with the Lord's Prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance.
Since the LLoyd's Prayer has already been covered, why not cover the Pledge of Subservience?
Pledge of Subservience
I pledge Allegiance to the Fed
of the United States of America
and to the corruption for which it stands,
one nation under Goldman, easily divisible,
with criminal acts against all.
Mike "Mish" Shedlock
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com
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- A more in depth article on the changing stories and fixing of evidence -- crazytimes, 00:17:21 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/196533-Reviving-the-War-of-Terror-Patsy-framed-in-Secret-Team-psy-op-to-generate-public-support-for-wars
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- thanks oilboiler -- johnny, 00:15:59 11/13/09 Fri
everyone should hear this aussie
ice at the equator with 100 times more co2 in the air than
now .. bit of a king hit to the global warming baloney
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- blair sorry about slaves -- johnny, 00:06:19 11/13/09 Fri
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6493507.stm
but ok with killing 100,000 iraqis for trumped up reasons
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- how many variations and lies from the Media? -- crazytimes, 00:05:29 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/massive-media-fail-female_b_355600.html
Media Fail: Kimberly Munley Did Not Bring Down Fort Hood Killer
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- Johnny -- oilboiler, 00:03:40 11/13/09 Fri
Great interview with Pilmer here, from http://www.financialsense.com/
http://www.netcastdaily.com/broadcast/fsn2009-1024-2.mp3
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- hitiing the rucks -- johnny, 00:00:51 11/13/09 Fri
http://www.sport24.co.za/Content/Rugby/BoksOnTour/3474/b489f72028f64e54a0d5b12dc4a603d1/12-11-2009-10-24/Im_not_violent_-_Bakkies
he and matfield are once in a lifetime
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- thanks for spies link -- johnny, 23:53:35 11/12/09 Thu
interesting that USSA bobming civilians triggered
key Western defections to the soviets.
Americans seem unable to understand how distasteful
civilian murder by the military can be to other people ..
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- Give It Up, Tarmack -- Gila_Bob, 23:52:00 11/12/09 Thu
Friend:
Yer a Sad Sack-0-Shit, d00d
Sew what device r u U$in' ta Measure Chine$e Excite-Mint???
I got this picture of Uncle Fester in My Mind
With the Light Bulb in his Mouth
Big Bob
(Yer a Travesty.........
A Pimp with No Roller........LOL)
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- -- -- Winston, 23:48:57 11/12/09 Thu
New Martin Armstrong, Nov.11
"Why Gold is Going to $5000"
ordinary pdf file
http://www.martinarmstrong.org/files/GOLD-5000-11-11-09.pdf
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- Favorites -- ellix, 23:42:14 11/12/09 Thu
click favourites, organize, import/backup, then "export" as html to the medium most suitable-- in your case I believe a 5 1/4 floppy but you could also use a CD or DVD-- thereupon you insert the transfer medium in your new toy and again click favourites, organize, import...
It may not be precisely like that but the procedure is largely intuitive starting with the "favourites" menu.
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- @Winston @masters of deceit indeed ... -- mozel (), 23:34:31 11/12/09 Thu
thanks for the post on the word "terrorism" ... down with the Ismites ...
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- Yeah Gelda is the resident expurt -- Carmack, 23:33:50 11/12/09 Thu
on parades and all things light in the loafers from his 100 % attendance record at those gay pride events ! Hahahahhaah
"Yes, He appeared in Fair's & Even @ TR's Inaugural Parade."
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- adelaide uni chap -- johnny, 23:33:18 11/12/09 Thu
is a co2 denier ..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/6553592/Climate-change-sceptic-Ian-Plimer-argues-CO2-is-not-causing-global-warming.html
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- -- -- Winston, 23:33:07 11/12/09 Thu
johnny - "Spies" --Episode 21 of 'the Cold War'.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8289590416380284961#
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- Blast at Nato base in Afghanistan -- Iainmac, 23:30:48 11/12/09 Thu
An explosion has hit a Nato-led military base in Afghanistan's capital, Kabul, according to a military spokesman.
The blast struck Camp Phoenix, one of the main bases used by Western troops, early on Friday morning, Sergeant Kevin Bell said.
An Afghan police source said the blast was caused by a suicide bomber.
The area had been sealed off by Western forces casualties were expected, he said.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/11/2009111341539181795.html
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- A recent survey confirmed that 100% of those who believe in fossil fuels -- mozel, 23:30:37 11/12/09 Thu
also accept wiki as their information authority ... it's called Male Bobness Pattern ...
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- -- -- Winston, 23:29:11 11/12/09 Thu
the word "terrorism" originally meant exactly this: "government atrocities committed against the people of a colony to instill fear, so that people would not resist their rulers." You can check this out in the Oxford English Dictionary. But governments like to turn things upside down, (such as robbing from the poor to enrich the rich etc.) And they turned this word upside down, and now they use it to mean atrocities committed by people against governments. Just another part of the full-spectrum trance induced on the unwitting populace by the masters of deceit.
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- What your local Acupunturist is reccomending for lung -- BUFFORD, 23:25:56 11/12/09 Thu
conjestion in an email that I had sent
http://www.daan.com/daan-products/
chinese herbs for lung conjestion:
http://www.chineseherbcenter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=daan&Product_Code=ent008&Category_Code=ent http://www.chineseherbcenter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=daan&Product_Code=ent003&Category_Code=ent http://www.chineseherbcenter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=daan&Product_Code=ent018&Category_Code=ent http://www.chineseherbcenter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=daan&Product_Code=ent013&Category_Code=ent http://www.chineseherbcenter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=daan&Product_Code=ent017&Category_Code=ent
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- I'll check it out earl -- Miniminer, 23:25:12 11/12/09 Thu
thanks...I am terrible with puters but admit I'm lost without my library of links!Today I was thinking about writing letters to my kids with an actual pen and paper and mailing them to them because these dam puters and so morbid and lifeless and the email conversations have no charactor. I also miss my grandmothers letters from my youth...thanks again earl, I think they cost about ten bucks or so---then I can figure out how to work the process in a half day or so.
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- @crazytimes @JoeB believes in the Magic Kerosene ... and the Magic Rockets .. -- mozel, 23:22:27 11/12/09 Thu
and the Magic Man on the Moon ... and Mensa, too ... you have picked a slippery, hard case to lift up from the media slime.
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- Geronimo -- Gila_Bob, 23:19:45 11/12/09 Thu
Friends:
Yes, He appeared in Fair's & Even @ TR's Inaugural Parade.
Yes, He died a prisoner @ Ft Sill denied return to his Homeland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geronimo
Big Bob
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- Miniminer -- Iainmac, 23:14:23 11/12/09 Thu
I like Foxmarks (now Xmarks) - If you use Firefox, it can synchronise all your favourites between computers - I know some people have concerns about security, though.
http://www.xmarks.com/
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- @minimer @visit the forum for the browser you are using -- mozel, 23:12:58 11/12/09 Thu
use your google to assist your noodle
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- Joe B @ Tarmack -- Gila_Bob, 23:10:44 11/12/09 Thu
Friend:
He is no Communist
He is a Pain-in-the-Ass
It's Different
Big Bob
(JD @ L00$e Point$............No Weigh!!!
Every since Veet-Nam ya get M0RE P0int$
Fer Runnin' UP the B0dy C0unt)
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- @Geronimo was not left to rot in prison. He attended the World's Fair -- mozel, 23:10:37 11/12/09 Thu
in Chicago, which anybody who read his autobiography would know.
Fraud abounds.
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- Hi Azau, Siempre33, AU NB, Frus and AU-RWG -- goldeye, 23:09:56 11/12/09 Thu
Thanks for your greetings and kind words. Yes, the jr. goldies are way undervalued imo as well. I'm 100% in the jrs. as I'm pretty confident that when the shift comes it'll come hard and fast and the jrs. will be the main beneficiaries. Things can change on a dime so I hope everyone is locked and loaded when the time comes. My health has been slowly getting better and I hope to gradually post on a more regular basis soon. Talk to you soon and best to everyone!
Goldeye
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- computer question -- Miniminer -- Earl, 23:05:23 11/12/09 Thu
A USB thumb drive
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- computer question -- Miniminer, 23:02:51 11/12/09 Thu
Is there a way to extract saved favorites from an old computer to my new 1 other than writing all the addresses down manually on paper?
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- video games aid recruiting -- johnny, 22:41:30 11/12/09 Thu
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2009/11/20091112192559688404.html
you "lose points" if you kill civilians ..
hey !!
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- Then how can you wage war on something that isn't even defined? -- b_w, 22:37:38 11/12/09 Thu
Well that is the beauty of it. No matter who you want to kill or where you want to invade they are "terrorists" or are supporting "terrorism".
"Terrorism" is a subset of evil. Most people would considering bombing wedding parties evil.
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