- Best i can do. --
normandyrevulsion, 08:31:00 05/02/12 Wed
We're sorry, you do not have access to this forum.
The admin has restricted access.
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- good post Azau ..AZAU, 08:11:51 05/02/12 Wed --
WIFFO, 08:24:10 05/02/12 Wed
I agree the Japs need a lot of prompting. They are traditional stonewallers and this is a potentially serious if not a potential catastrophic issue. The point is that it can be dealt with, if acted on.
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- it's all goooooooooooood.......... --
AZAU, 08:18:10 05/02/12 Wed
On December 16, Kan's successor, Yoshihiko Noda, announced that the stricken reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station had reached "a state of cold shutdown." Japan's worst-ever nuclear accident, the Prime Minister said, had finally been brought under control.
The moment was meant to be a calming milestone, psychological balm for a wounded country in the process of trying to heal. The only problem with it, as workers today at the nuclear power plant, will tell you, is this: it wasn't true then, and it's still not true today. "The coolant water is keeping the reactor temperatures at a certain level, but that's not even near the goal [of a cold shut down,]" says an engineer working inside the plant. "The fact is, we still don't know what's going on inside the reactors."
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- is the other forum still down? --
SilverFox, 08:17:27 05/02/12 Wed
My computer crashed and I was looking for the address again on the cob forum. Last time I tried it was down again. does anyone still follow them and is it up again if so can I get the address again thx
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- don't do anything....just stand there...hahahaha...who gives a sh*t? --
AZAU, 08:11:51 05/02/12 Wed
Urgent Request to Prime Minister Noda
May 1, 2012
To: Yoshihiko Noda, Prime Minister of Japan
An Urgent Request on UN Intervention on Stabilization of the Fukushima Unit 4 Spent Nuclear Fuel
Recently, former diplomats and experts both in Japan and abroad stressed the extremely risky condition of the Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool and this is being widely reported by world media. Robert Alvarez, Senior Scholar at the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), who is one of the best-known experts on spent nuclear fuel, stated that in Unit 4 there is spent nuclear fuel which contains Cesium-137 (Cs-137) that is equivalent to 10 times the amount that was released at the time of the Chernobyl nuclear accident. Thus, if an earthquake or other event were to cause this pool to drain, this could result in a catastrophic radiological fire.
Full letter (same as below)
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Urgent Request to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon
May 1, 2012
To: UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon
An Urgent Request on UN Intervention to Stabilize the Fukushima Unit 4 Spent Nuclear Fuel
Recently, former diplomats and experts both in Japan and abroad stressed the extremely risky condition of the Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool and this is being widely reported by world media. Robert Alvarez, Senior Scholar at the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), who is one of the best-known experts on spent nuclear fuel, stated that in Unit 4 there is spent nuclear fuel which contains Cesium-137 (Cs-137) that is equivalent to 10 times the amount that was released at the time of the Chernobyl nuclear accident. Thus, if an earthquake or other event were to cause this pool to drain, this could result in a catastrophic radiological fire involving nearly 10 times the amount of Cs-137 released by the Chernobyl accident.
Nearly all of the 10,893 spent fuel assemblies at the Fukushima Daiichi plant sit in pools vulnerable to future earthquakes, with roughly 85 times more long-lived radioactivity than released at Chernobyl.
Nuclear experts from the US and Japan such as Arnie Gundersen, Robert Alvarez, Hiroaki Koide, Masashi Goto, and Mitsuhei Murata, a former Japanese ambassador to Switzerland, and, Akio Matsumura, a former UN diplomat, have continually warned against the high risk of the Fukushima Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool.
US Senator Roy Wyden, after his visit to the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant on 6 April, 2012, issued a press release on 16 April, pointing out the catastrophic risk of Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4, calling for urgent US government intervention. Senator Wyden also sent a letter to Ichiro Fujisaki, Japan’s Ambassador to the United States, requesting Japan to accept international assistance to tackle the crisis.
We Japanese civil organizations express our deepest concern that our government does not inform its citizens about the extent of risk of the Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool. Given the fact that collapse of this pool could potentially lead to catastrophic consequences with worldwide implications, what the Japanese government should be doing as a responsible member of the international community is to avoid any further disaster by mobilizing all the wisdom and the means available in order to stabilize this spent nuclear fuel. It is clearly evident that Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool is no longer a Japanese issue but an international issue with potentially serious consequences. Therefore, it is imperative for the Japanese government and the international community to work together on this crisis before it becomes too late. We are appealing to the United Nations to help Japan and the planet in order to prevent the irreversible consequences of a catastrophe that could affect generations to come. We herewith make our urgent request to you as follows:
1. The United Nations should organize a Nuclear Security Summit to take up the crucial problem of the Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool.
2. The United Nations should establish an independent assessment team on Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 and coordinate international assistance in order to stabilize the unit’s spent nuclear fuel and prevent radiological consequences with potentially catastrophic consequences.
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- Pool skills never seen before_Cape Breton News Online_Video --
Caper, 06:24:30 05/02/12 Wed
Pool skills never seen before_Cape Breton News Online_Video
http://www.scoop.it/t/cape-breton-island-news-views/p/1708719042/pool-skills-never-seen-before-cape-breton-news-online-video
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- @Bullishonbronze, 05:20:46 -- Smythe, 05:29:10 05/02/12 Wed --
Bullishonbronze, 05:48:06 05/02/12 Wed
LOL! ... well, actually also meant it as useful, clever rejoinder. It's probably not easy being at the top of the hill.
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- UFO's_Mysteries_Weird Events for Cape Breton News Online --
Caper, 05:32:50 05/02/12 Wed
http://www.scoop.it/t/cape-breton-island-news-views/p/1708553743/ufo-s-mysteries-weird-events-for-cape-breton-news-online
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- @Bullishonbronze, 05:20:46 --
Smythe, 05:29:10 05/02/12 Wed
Damnation by faint praise is so scurrilous -g-
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- ps. johnny --
Bullishonbronze, 05:20:46 05/02/12 Wed
next time someone says you are an arrogant, cocky, over-accomplished _._._., you just tell them this:
There is no greater pride than in seeking to humiliate ourselves beyond measure; and sometimes there is no truer humility than to attempt great works. ~ Jean du Vergier de Hauranne (1581-1643)
; ^)
Non, Je ne regrette rien
http://youtu.be/Q3Kvu6Kgp88
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Bullishonbronze, 05:16:44 05/02/12 Wed
editing typos, etc, because exhausted! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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- Lil'Devil ........ Sir Francis Bacon --
Bullishonbronze (), 05:08:59 05/02/12 Wed
http://www.constitution.org/bacon/nov_org.htm
THE NEW ORGANON
OR TRUE DIRECTIONS CONCERNING THE INTERPRETATION OF NATURE
Francis Bacon, c. 1620
note Descartes (1596–1650)
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companion to Bacon would be David Hume's c. 1748 (aka British Empiricism) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Enquiry_Concerning_Human_Understanding
but Hume is quite difficult reading for a 21st-Century person--more so than Descartes & Bacon, though they are earlier.
.................
tried to find something--not sure if in writings of Bacon or Erasmus. Has to do not so much with superstition or obeisance to tradition and antiquity (Greeks), but how men's egos (although they don't use the word "ego") get in the way of development of knowledge [in today it would occur in science with the profit motive in pharma companies, cf., Vioxx; as well as lobbying; as well as so-called climate change]. It might be Sir Bacon.
anyway, I just thought you might enjoy Sir Bacon. Probably have to try to be hermeneutical when reading it--i.e., put yourself as reader in the context of discourse of his day. Otherwise, one will make connections to today that are likely not what he intended, meant, etc. Also, otherwise a lot of what he writes will seem too obvious (for nowadays much of it is).
fwiw
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- Garlic Fights Common Illness Better than Antibiotics --
johnny, 04:50:57 05/02/12 Wed
but you smell like chico the wop
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- Garlic Fights Common Illness Better than Antibiotics --
Caper, 04:47:44 05/02/12 Wed
Garlic Fights Common Illness Better than Antibiotics_Cape Breton Online News
http://www.scoop.it/t/cape-breton-island-news-views/p/1708378205/garlic-fights-common-illness-better-than-antibiotics-cape-breton-online-news
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- Sunshine Girl Daniela_Cape Breton News Online --
Caper, 04:42:00 05/02/12 Wed
http://www.scoop.it/t/cape-breton-island-news-views/p/1708350658/sunshine-girl-daniela-cape-breton-news-online
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- with all the crapola reported about the mox fuel rods --
johnny, 04:40:07 05/02/12 Wed
by various knaves drunks and activists
the interesting thing is that no japs have died or are even sick ..
doesnt this make you activist types feel a bit stupid?
plutonium must be a lot safer than i thought
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- Flavonoids from blueberries and other fruits dramatically lower risk of diabetes --
Caper, 04:35:37 05/02/12 Wed
Flavonoids from blueberries and other fruits dramatically lower risk of diabetes_Cape Breton News Online
http://www.scoop.it/t/cape-breton-island-news-views/p/1708312995/flavonoids-from-blueberries-and-other-fruits-dramatically-lower-risk-of-diabetes-cape-breton-news-online
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- Human genes engineered into experimental GMO rice being grown in Kansas --
Caper, 04:29:37 05/02/12 Wed
http://www.scoop.it/t/cape-breton-island-news-views/p/1708293971/human-genes-engineered-into-experimental-gmo-rice-being-grown-in-kansas
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- The Titanic closer to the truth --
b_w, 03:59:11 05/02/12 Wed
It is amazing how these "events" are constructed with so many layers, each layer under full control. It is not for nothing these ghouls own this poor world.
We should know the the "failure" of the California "rescue effort" was as sure as WTC 7 falling to the ground as if control demolished. The whole string of "disasters" that led to the sinking of the Olympic, "Titanic" was nothing but the mass murder of many of the opponents of the US Federal Reserve.
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- Kip's trades . . . open positions... long USD, short silver -- Kip (:-:), 02:29:06 05/02/12 Wed --
Bullishonbronze (), 03:02:45 05/02/12 Wed
mise en place [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mise_en_place ]
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- quercetin and rutin --
Bullishonbronze (), 03:25:50 05/02/12 Wed
Two flavonoids, quercetin and rutin, have also been implicated as thiamine antagonists.
[Combs, G. F. Jr. (2008). The vitamins: Fundamental Aspects in Nutrition and Health (3rd ed.). Ithaca, NY: Elsevier Academic Press. ISBN 978-0-12-183493-7.]
(+ Magnesium is required for the binding of thiamine to thiamine-using enzymes within the cell.)
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- The Titanic closer to the truth --
b_w, 03:22:10 05/02/12 Wed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_7NTJZ-2eU&feature=relmfu
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- acoustic Alizée --
Bullishonbronze, 03:16:43 05/02/12 Wed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP9LYD_Am4A&feature=related
Ne vous déplaise
En dansant la Javanaise
Nous nous aimions
Le temps d'une chanson
........
L8R
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- La vie de cocagne --
Bullishonbronze, 03:06:37 05/02/12 Wed
http://youtu.be/gRyz30Ko5oA
Jeanne Moreau
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- post Fukishima @ why societies have no sense of future --
Bullishonbronze, 02:56:29 05/02/12 Wed
the seven chakras of the planet (by Sean David Morton):
Root chakra: Lasa, Tibet
Second chakra: Giza Pyramids
Third chakra: Stonehenge
Forth heart chakra: Machu Picchu
Fifth throat chakra: Los Angeles Olivera St. Gazebo
* Sixth third eye chakra: Oska, Japan Tin Reed City
Crown chakra: Earth not part of galactic community, but coming soon!
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- carnival of MOPE --
Bullishonbronze, 02:47:12 05/02/12 Wed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-9aadliuwM
(the greatest show on earth)
The city has its cunning wiles, no less than the infinitely smaller and more human tempter. There are large forces which allure with all the soulfulness of expression possible in the most cultured human. The gleam of a thousand lights is often as effective as the persuasive light in a wooing and fascinating eye. Half the undoing of the unsophisticated and natural mind is accomplished by forces wholly superhuman. A blare of sound, a roar of life, a vast array of human hives, appeal to the astonished senses in equivocal terms. Without a counselor at hand to whisper cautious interpretations, what falsehoods may not these things breathe into the unguarded ear! Unrecognized for what they are, their beauty, like music, too often relaxes, then weakens, then perverts the simpler human perceptions.
- Theodore Dreiser, Sister Carrie chapter one, c. 1900
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- spent fuel pools --
johnny, 02:45:07 05/02/12 Wed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spent_fuel_pool
as i said they are everywhere
why focus on fukushima???
force of habit ??
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- when pleasures do not come --
Bullishonbronze, 02:41:12 05/02/12 Wed
from Gustave Flaubert, L'Éducation Sentimentale (1869), Chapter III:
The pleasures that he had promised himself did not come to him; and when he had exhausted a circulating library, gone over the collections in the Louvre, and been at the theatre a great many nights in succession, he sank into the lowest depths of idleness.
His depression was increased by a thousand fresh annoyances.
He was smitten with a vague remorse.
The reminiscences, far too numerous, on which he dwelt produced a disheartening effect on him; he went no further with the work, and his mental vacuity redoubled.
He now went in for amusing himself. He attended the balls at the Opera House. These exhibitions of riotous gaiety froze him the moment he had passed the door. Besides, he was restrained by the fear of being subjected to insult on the subject of money, his notion being that a supper with a domino, entailing considerable expense, was rather a big adventure.
So the days slipped by with the same tiresome experiences, and enslavement to contracted habits.
....
Sviatoslav Richter plays Bach Italian Concerto
http://youtu.be/8K5-_f_KT5M
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- Kip's trades . . . open positions... long USD, short silver -- Kip (:-:), 02:29:06 05/02/12 Wed
http://i.imgur.com/0jZum.gif . . . http://i.imgur.com/aafRS.gif
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- fuel rod pools --
johnny, 02:31:48 05/02/12 Wed
i suspect that design is pretty standard .. but you may with to check .. these pools may be all over the world..
just wating to fall over im shaking as i write .. theres one in capetown .. if it shuts down there go my lights
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- Apache --
b_w, 02:28:49 05/02/12 Wed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zou2V-e0zo&feature=related
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- One of the most audacious stunts of the 21st century, 9/11 excepted --
b_w (), 02:26:29 05/02/12 Wed
It is a year since the US government pulled off one of the most audacious stunts of the 21st century, when on May 2nd 2011 they claimed to have killed Osama bin Laden during a Navy SEAL operation in Abbottabad, Pakistan. The contemptuously sloppy story spun by the US government, parroted without question by the controlled corporate media, and obligingly swallowed by a largely gullible Western public, was dubious in the extreme.
Many credible commentators, including respected intelligence analysts and heads of state, had claimed years before 2011 that bin Laden was already dead. It is widely believed that bin Laden suffered from kidney disease; former President of Pakistan General Pervez Musharraf stated in January 2002 that he thought the al Qaeda leader had died of the disease, and after reviewing video footage of a poorly-looking bin Laden from late 2001, CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta observed that his "frosting of the appearance is something that people a lot of times associate with chronic kidney failure, renal failure, certainly someone who is requiring dialysis would have that."
Even if bin Laden was still alive in May 2011, events following his supposed killing proved, for the rationally critical, very difficult to swallow.
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/05/one-year-on-still-no-evidence-for-osama_01.html
OBL was on well known kidney dialysis in 1996. 90% of KD patients are dead in 10 years.
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- bottoms up --
johnny, 02:24:27 05/02/12 Wed
ive made a lovely set of cubes using my unforgetable legs as a model
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- ... --
Bullishonbronze, 02:21:19 05/02/12 Wed
http://www.moodocean.co.uk/html/methylation.html
Taking large doses of any of the suggested supplements to correct methylation problems will not always work well, simply because there seems to be a precise level to attain that is unique to each person. For instance, with higher than optimum B6 and magnesium, more homocysteine is taken away from methylation and converted to cysteine, which can interfere with insulin activity, and with lower than optimum levels of B6 and magnesium, the methylation target may not be met. Balance is everything.
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- calling ellix --
johnny, 02:20:58 05/02/12 Wed
japanese or russian humour
that screwy link i posted on evacuation of large cities is either a russian or japanese joke aimed at making any negotiations over the return of some of the kuriles to japan a bit more pleasant .. i suspect lavrov had something to do with it
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- alcohol hangovers = horny --
Bullishonbronze (), 02:12:41 05/02/12 Wed
http://www.moodocean.co.uk/html/neurotransmitters.html
Alcohol is broken down by an enzyme in the liver cells known as alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH) [thiamine & zinc]. ADH breaks down alcohol into acetaldehyde, which is toxic, and then acetaldehyde-dehydrogenase [molybdenum and B12?] and another substance called glutathione [glutamine, cysteine, manganese/selenium], which contains high quantities of cysteine, rapidly breaks down acetaldehyde into acetate, or acetic acid (vinegar). The acetate is further metabolised and eventually leaves the body as carbon dioxide and water.
It can therefore be deduced that alcohol pulls down levels of acetaldehyde dehydrogenase, and in doing so raises brain and body histamine levels [consequence of methylation of homocysteine to methionine?]. Research has shown that histamine is released as part of the human orgasm from mast cells in the genitals.
..........
SAMe levels (inversely?) related to histamine levels. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histamine_N-methyltransferase
SAMe is not just a supplement you can buy. It is integral to key enzyme(s) in the body. Its role in ameliorating depression is detailed in the link at the top of this post (serotonin).
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- Check out this Obama video --
Mikikis (), 01:58:28 05/02/12 Wed
Is he in front of a green screen? This looks really fake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l4TsjAKp18
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- UNG almost deserving of Kip gloves analysis --
Bullishonbronze, 01:47:02 05/02/12 Wed
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=UNG&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p28776291135
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- "who could have possibly foreseen this incredible move? " --
Mikikis (), 01:41:50 05/02/12 Wed
Any one of the multitude of insiders tied to or working at the top levels of the Fed banks.
In a perfect world, we could get a list of who was buying hand over fist at those levels.
Maybe we will get those right after we get the list of people massively short going into 9/11.....
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- bottoms up @ Gurk can have these made of johnny; johnny, Gurk. --
Bullishonbronze, 01:45:28 05/02/12 Wed
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/9239418/Virgin-launches-Branson-shaped-ice-cube.html
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- Depressed Bond Yields & Record-Low Gold-priced PM Stx -- Kip, 01:44:29 05/02/12 Wed
. . . 
is the bond mkt anticipating negligible inflation ahead? and, are PM Stx foreseeing likewise?
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- Shedlock whistles silver, pisses yellow --
Bullishonbronze, 01:24:58 05/02/12 Wed
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2012/05/im-swapping-some-gold-for-silver.html
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SILVER:$GOLD&p=D&yr=1&mn=6&dy=0&id=p60654303234
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- cuda-shuda bot JUNK bonds at the depths of the financial crisis ....price has since doubled -- Kip, 00:21:08 05/02/12 Wed
new all-time highs today! .......who could have possibly foreseen this incredible move?

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- Obama is one without a history; he is inhuman --
Bullishonbronze, 00:20:52 05/02/12 Wed
when you watch that Jerusalem you get a sense of the long tradition of mankind.
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- Jerusalem | Filmed in Imax 3D --
Bullishonbronze, 00:18:13 05/02/12 Wed
http://vimeo.com/15034110
respice adspice prospice
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- story wiped !!!! --
skys39, 23:42:27 05/01/12 Tue
LOLOL!!!
NEW YORK, NY, Apr 23, 2012 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- In a lawsuit alleged to involve the largest money laundering network in United States history, Spire Law Group, LLP -- on behalf of home owners across the Country -- has filed a mass tort action in the Supreme Court of New York, County of Kings. Home owners across the country have sued every major bank servicer and their subsidiaries -- formed in countries known as havens for money laundering such as the Cayman Islands, the Isle of Man, Luxembourg and Malaysia -- alleging that while the Obama Administration was publicly encouraging loan modifications for home owners, it was privately ratifying the formation of these shell companies in violation of the United States Patriot Act, and State and Federal law. The case further alleges that through these obscure foreign companies, Bank of America, J.P. Morgan, Wells Fargo Bank, Citibank, Citigroup, One West Bank, and numerous other federally chartered banks stole hundreds of millions of dollars of home owners' money during the last decade and then laundered it through offshore companies. The complaint, Index No. 500827, was filed by Spire Law Group, LLP, and several of the Firm's affiliates and partners across the United States.
Far from being ambiguous, this is a complaint that "names names." Indeed, the lawsuit identifies specific companies and the offshore countries used in this enormous money laundering scheme. Federally Chartered Banks' theft of money and their utilization of offshore tax haven subsidiaries represent potential FDIC violations, violations of New York law, and countless other legal wrongdoings under state and federal law.
"The laundering of trillions of dollars of U.S. taxpayer money -- and the wrongful taking of the homes of those taxpayers -- was known by the Administration and expressly supported by it. Evidence uncovered by the plaintiffs revealed that the Administration ignored its own agencies' reports -- and reports from the Department of Homeland Security -- about this situation, dating as far back as 2010. Worse, the Administration purported to endorse a 'national bank settlement' without disclosing or having any public discourse whatsoever about the thousands of foreign tax havens now wholly owned by our nation's banks. Fortunately, no home owner is bound to enter into this fraudulent bank settlement," stated Eric J. Wittenberg of Columbus, Ohio -- a noted trial lawyer, author and student of US history -- on behalf of plaintiffs in the case.
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skys39, 23:41:59 05/01/12 Tue
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- Largest International Money Laundering Network in History --
skys39, 23:38:06 05/01/12 Tue
Largest International Money Laundering Network in History Formed During Obama Administration; U.S. Banks' Theft of Home Owners' Money Laundered Through Cayman Islands, Isle of Man and Numerous Offshore-Based Affiliates
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/home-ow...2012-04-23
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- HEY GRANDMA!!! --
skys39, 23:27:29 05/01/12 Tue
SPEAD YOUR BUMB!!!
lol!
the youtube videos will be grand!!
LOLOOLKOOLLOLOOLL!!!!
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- @@@ surgicaly inplanted terror bombs --
skys39, 23:24:05 05/01/12 Tue
lol!!!
now we need to look up your pussy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOLOLLOLOOLLOLOOLOL!!
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- Just try and stop me. --
b_w, 23:05:05 05/01/12 Tue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlLp2hsZdW4&feature=player_embedded
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- The way the world works --
b_w, 22:41:11 05/01/12 Tue
The president of Azerbaijan officially earns 100 bucks/month. His daughter was observed spending 500,000 on a dinner party for six.
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- Andrew Breitbart is not the only one being murdered --
b_w, 22:32:50 05/01/12 Tue
As our world devolved into total chaos good people speaking the truth are being removed one by one.
http://worldtruth.tv/a-list-of-115-dead-scientists-assassinated/
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- genie from the bottle....... --
AZAU, 22:21:50 05/01/12 Tue
In 1965, he was persuaded to quote again for a television broadcast:
We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried. Most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita; Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and, to impress him, takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.'[5]
J R Oppenheimer
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- What, if anything, can we do to be prepared for such an event? --
b_w (), 22:08:44 05/01/12 Tue
http://healthyprotocols.com/2_Radiation.htm
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- Okay, should this event occur (earthquake followed by collapse of fuel-pool #4) --
b_w, 22:03:32 05/01/12 Tue
Oh there is NO if, only a question of when.
You will note the "earthquake cluster" centered in North Japan. HAARP will when instructed cause the required quake, or an errant "test missile" will, or 10,000 overweight sumo wrestlers will "accidentally" fall into the pool, or ...
But like all the horrific events lined up before us it may happen AFTER our black goon gets his pre-ordained second term(ination).
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- klinton went on to get a doctorate in rape and murder --
b_w, 21:56:16 05/01/12 Tue
Ain't free speech great. I am sorry we have rapists and murders for puppet presidents but ignoring the facts will not help.
Enjoy your free speech. It is being attacked as we SPEAK.
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- fukushima dire-off --
AZAU, 21:54:43 05/01/12 Tue
"The fuel pools are 100 feet above the ground, entirely open to the atmosphere (except for the water constantly being pumped into them) because the nuclear reactor buildings were blown apart by explosions back during 2011. The fuel pool (#4) which holds more than 10,000 nuclear rods could collapse from structural damage, should another strong earthquake occur there, and scatter the rods all over the ground. Emergency worker access to these rods will be impossible (except for suicide missions) as they will be emitting lethal levels of gamma radiation. The fuel rods will quickly heat up and ignite/explode, releasing massive clouds of radiation into the atmosphere.
Quote from a story on April-2, 2012 from the Mainichi Daily News in Japan written by Takao Yamada, Expert Senior Writer, “If the storage pool breaks and runs dry, the nuclear fuel inside will overheat and explode, causing a massive amount of radioactive substances to spread over a wide area. Both the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) and French nuclear energy company Areva have warned about this risk.”
http://mainichi.jp/english/english/perspectives/news/20120402p2a00m0na002000c.html
The only thing saving the planet from exposure to 85x Chernobyl is the few feet of water covering the rods at this very moment. There is no other containment. Period. In fact, the fuel pool apparently is, and has been, leaking. A constant re-supply of water is required to avert total disaster.
Okay, should this event occur (earthquake followed by collapse of fuel-pool #4), how would it affect us here in the U.S. and other countries outside of Japan? What, if anything, can we do to be prepared for such an event?
As the radiation began to spew into the atmosphere, the surface and upper winds would carry the ongoing invisible cloud with it. If it were carried along in the jet-stream, which spins around the globe at say, 100 mph (and higher), it would take about 10 days to circle and cover the globe, predominantly in the northern hemisphere. That said, a few days or even 10 days is not enough time to make any practical preparations for this type of disaster..."
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- Unlike our klinton and bushes he did not murder and/or rape them. --
b_w, 21:49:27 05/01/12 Tue
klinton started his raping and murdering of women (and men) at an early age. He was thrown out of Oxford for raping a co-ed. I would guess that was not his first rape.
Lets see that would be a Rhodes Scholar who majored in rape. klinton went on to get a doctorate in rape and did post doc work in rape and murder.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1017597/posts
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- DSK regular sex with six women, some of whom were half his age. --
b_w, 21:41:03 05/01/12 Tue
Now there is a man the French admire. Unlike our klinton and bushes he did not murder and/or rape them.
What did DSK in was he was a little too honest and would not agree to the NWO plans for the IMF.
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- Glyndwr --
Forestgold, 20:47:29 05/01/12 Tue
thx, I've never seen that version.
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- Forestgold, 19:15:54 05/01/12 Tue --
Glyndwr, 20:12:14 05/01/12 Tue
Another here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2TicMbH4OY&feature=related
My fave line is Nietzsche Vs. K'ung-Fu-Tzu Confucius.
1:45 mins in.
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Winston, 19:37:50 05/01/12 Tue
Descartes invented the coordinate x-y representation system. We call it a price chart. He invented every price chart you've ever seen.
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- René Descartes --
Forestgold, 19:15:54 05/01/12 Tue
was a drunken fart - I drink therefore I am.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1MgCV6uGuc
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- Man Rejects Cancer Diagnosis@ Refuses Treatment --
LilDevil, 19:14:54 05/01/12 Tue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWTSRiUzAwY
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Winston, 19:12:39 05/01/12 Tue
USLV chart (3 X Silver)...after the manner of bullish's tvix chart
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=USLV&p=D&st=2010-12-31&en=(today)&id=p42361758050
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Winston, 19:10:10 05/01/12 Tue
silver chart http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SILVER&p=D&yr=3&mn=0&dy=0&id=p80777580693
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- Our Basic Medical Paradigm is WRONG --
b_w, 19:01:44 05/01/12 Tue
"Cancer does not cause a person to be sick; it is the sickness of the person that causes the cancer." Andreas Moritz
If you understand this simple concept you will understand cancer and most "disease".
Piling trillions and trillion of dollars on a broken theory will just make things WORSE as has been proven these last 40 or so years.
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- think you are linking to real stories ... think again --
moa, 18:10:30 05/01/12 Tue
Every 30 seconds or so, the algorithmic bull pen of Narrative Science, a 30-person company occupying a large room on the fringes of the Chicago Loop, extrudes a story whose very byline is a question of philosophical inquiry. The computer-written product could be a pennant-waving second-half update of a Big Ten basketball contest, a sober preview of a corporate earnings statement, or a blithe summary of the presidential horse race drawn from Twitter posts. The articles run on the websites of respected publishers like Forbes, as well as other Internet media powers (many of which are keeping their identities private). Niche news services hire Narrative Science to write updates for their subscribers, be they sports fans, small-cap investors, or fast-food franchise owners.
And the articles don’t read like robots wrote them:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/04/can-an-algorithm-write-a-better-news-story-than-a-human-reporter/
But not long after the contract began, a slight problem emerged: The stories tended to focus on the victors. When a Big Ten team got whipped by an out-of-conference rival, the resulting write-ups could be downright humiliating. Conference officials asked Narrative Science to find a way for the stories to praise the performances of the Big Ten players even when they lost. A human journalist might have blanched at the request, but Narrative Science’s engineers saw no problem in tweaking the software’s parameters—hacking it to make it write more like a hack.
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- @"René Descartes, who made possible Calculus (no small task), said reality -- mozel, 17:55:13 05/01/12 Tue
is beholden to the mind of God. Therefore, God is fundamental to science."
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Would that be the "pour milk on me now" god ?
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- sell beans ... if you've got 'em -- mozel, 17:51:21 05/01/12 Tue
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- For Caper and Carmack (and others who enjoy the weather girls) --
Mikikis, 17:51:16 05/01/12 Tue
Kate Upton wins the internet today with this dance....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCNGO4F9TXE
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- there is some good sinus in here and some booga wooga as well --
zygoat, 17:49:33 05/01/12 Tue
http://timeline2012.net/index.php/en/timeline-2012/timeline-2012-videos
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- "yet, soybean futures at $15.bu!!!!!!!" -- Bullishonbronze, 16:38 -- Kip, 17:08:48 05/01/12 Tue
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- hypothecates to 'objective' reality at all times an observer --
Bullishonbronze (), 16:49:51 05/01/12 Tue
René Descartes, who made possible Calculus (no small task), said reality is beholden to the mind of God. Therefore, God is fundamental to science.
Habanera by Bizet (1838–1875), French composer of Carmen.
http://youtu.be/8w9yJdkeryI
L8R
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- XAU & Wheat ... priced in Gold . . . not dissimilar looking charts -- Kip, 16:31:20 --
Bullishonbronze, 16:38:13 05/01/12 Tue
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/another-bout-global-food-inflation-just-around-corner
........
yet, soybean futures at $15.bu!!!!!!!
thus, XAU:Wheat::NDX:Soybean
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- French improv of Bach --
Bullishonbronze, 16:34:36 05/01/12 Tue
http://youtu.be/8nq7w-HZwdc
piano concerto - Jacques Loussier Trio
I don't want to go on being a root in the dark,
insecure, stretched out, shivering with sleep,
going on down, into the moist guts of the earth,
taking in and thinking, eating every day.
- Pablo Neruda
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- XAU & Wheat ... priced in Gold . . . not dissimilar looking charts -- Kip, 16:31:20 05/01/12 Tue
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- @ if a tree falls in a forest.... --
Bullishonbronze, 16:22:34 05/01/12 Tue
A). if a tree falls in a forest....
B). if a tree were to fall in a forest....
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juxtaposed in this way, it makes apparent that proposition A is already assumptive of an observer having had verified its falling.
this brings to light the trick of language operative when posing such questions. It also exposes the assumption of natural science, which hypothecates to 'objective' reality at all times an observer.
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- these guys don't crawl up from their bunkers that often --
Bullishonbronze, 16:15:33 05/01/12 Tue
https://twitter.com/#!/RumsfeldOffice/status/197324255858401282
* Rumy
* Greenie
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/demented-old-normal-speaks-greenspan-forgets-his-lines-year-ago-now-hearts-qe
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and all before the Treasury launch:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/previewing-tomorrows-floating-rate-treasury-launch-announcement
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- Along the same vein as.....if a tree falls in a forest.... --
RIP, 16:13:51 05/01/12 Tue
Man exposes himself at Association for the Blind
http://www.phillyburbs.com/my_town/newtown/man-exposes-himself-at-association-for-the-blind/article_9afb4322-14bf-5272-9d6e-1d5e74f80f0d.html
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- omen @ today Rumsfeld tweeted & Greenspan said stocks are cheap --
Bullishonbronze, 16:11:58 05/01/12 Tue

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- Bittorent@ Attacked in UK --
LilDevil, 16:03:47 05/01/12 Tue
.
Pirate Bay to be blocked in UK
Britain's main music industry association says a judge has ordered Internet service providers to block file-sharing website The Pirate Bay.
The British Phonographic Industry says a High Court judge has told Sky, Everything Everywhere, TalkTalk, O2 and Virgin Media to prevent access to the Swedish site, which helps millions of people download copyrighted music, movies and computer games......
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/music/pirate-bay-to-be-blocked-in-uk-industry-association-says/article2417871/comments/
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Carmack (), 15:47:19 05/01/12 Tue
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- Anyone who saw Jose Rodriguez on 60 Minutes....needs to read this --
RIP, 15:34:06 05/01/12 Tue
Waterboards, Drones, and the Drones Who Love Them
...This past weekend in our politics, it was look-how-far-over-to-the-dark-side-we've-crawled time. Just as the various celebrity journalists, celebrity politicians, and celebrity celebrities were about done yucking it up at the White House Correspondents Dinner — and can I just say, for the record, that this is the biggest circle-jerk for the largest circle of jerks that there ever has been, like Guinness-level? — we had an unrepentent torturer shilling for his new book, baring his fangs on 60 Minutes and daring someone to throw him into the clink at The Hague, and another drone strike on behalf of the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize. If there is one thing that would possibly get me to vote for Buddy Roemer and/or the Hemp Party, it would be the dozens of ways, tacit and otherwise, that this administration made peace with the savagery of the previous one, and then proceeded to find ways to be savage itself that seem more capable of stroking the liberal-hawk G-spots.
We begin with Jose Rodriguez on 60 Minutes. Rodriguez once headed the CIA counter-terrorism office and was also its director of operations.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/jose-rodriguez-cia-book-8484289
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- Will Barry sacrifice a banker in a October Surprise? --
RIP, 15:15:28 05/01/12 Tue
.... “Here’s what I am told, confirmed by two senior law enforcement officials involved in the insider trading probe: investigators are looking at charging someone they describe as a “big fish.†The person has been described as someone I would know, which since I cover Wall Street, means that it’s a major financial type implicated in the matter. I cannot be certain of this because my sources refused to provide any additional details; the case isn’t complete. It involves cooperators, which means that it might go forward or it might not.
So the October Surprise is a very real possibility, much to delight of journalists like myself. But before rejoicing we in the media should take a deep breath. These same law enforcement sources investigating insider trading among Wall Street fat cats and other corporate titans are also looking at the alleged improprieties of a major journalist who covers stocks. That case, like the other, isn’t completed, but both have been described as “moving forward.†In other words, stay tuned.
http://dealbreaker.com/2012/05/charlie-gasparino-rumors-government-is-planning-to-nail-four-on-wall-street-probably-only-rumors-but-hes-telling-you-anyway/#more-75041
AZAU just had an orgasm.
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- RIP, 14:49:33 05/01/12 Tue Think I'll sit back and watch --
LilDevil, 14:53:42 05/01/12 Tue
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Look no hands!
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- Certainly a change of pace day at 64855 --
RIP, 14:49:33 05/01/12 Tue
Think I'll sit back and watch Debbie strut her stuff.
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- Li'l Driveller -- ellix, 14:27:59 05/01/12 Tue is determined to hook something, anything on h --
LilDevil, 14:42:18 05/01/12 Tue
is trolling line, keeps changing bait, lures, flies, offal.................."
Bait? Some tards beach themselves voluntarily.
Now back inna water you go little guy, swim swim away.
PS A response is neither required or desired, swim away now.
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- bell funnel over the gulf spill --
ellix, 14:32:28 05/01/12 Tue
As I recall they tried that.
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- Li'l Driveller --
ellix, 14:27:59 05/01/12 Tue
is determined to hook something, anything on his trolling line, keeps changing bait, lures, flies, offal...
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- Fun seeing road construction guy cutting big old thick --
MichaelH, 14:22:53 05/01/12 Tue
pipes they laid on the sidewalk... buzzed right thru and his partner said, hey don't cut the sidewalk. One hell of a cutting tool.
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- How many deaths so far ?? -- johnny, 12:38:05 05/01/12 Tue er nobody --
LilDevil, 14:20:56 05/01/12 Tue
Nobody? That's way too boring I'm gonna havta try youtube again.
Live Fuki CAM
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/f1-np/camera/index-e.html
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- oil production up nicely in newly freed states of iraq and libya.iran output sputters --
MichaelH, 14:18:40 05/01/12 Tue
Jim Mccanney says they rejected his idea to place a bell funnel over the gulf spill, and load ships - but sooo much oil was and is flowing out, it would drive the price sooo low.
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- in dust --
johnny, 14:08:34 05/01/12 Tue
we trust
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- the dust,boss,the dust! --
Bizarro_Greenspan, 13:32:10 05/01/12 Tue
Aw,shut up,Tattoo.
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- the dust tells the tale of the skullduggery Bizarro_Greenspan , 13:21:01 05/01/12 Tue --
LilDevil, 13:27:41 05/01/12 Tue
Mr.Flippin Science,put that in your shaping machine............."
WTF he say?
Need basic language skills before discussing science, I'd reckon.
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- @trust your eyes -- mozel, 12:49:15 05/01/12 Tue the hand is quicker than the eye, --
LilDevil, 13:22:15 05/01/12 Tue
tele vision is quicker than vision ... beware mirages and illusions ......................"
No point read'n D'bible then.
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- the dust tells the tale of the skullduggery --
Bizarro_Greenspan, 13:21:01 05/01/12 Tue
Mr.Flippin Science,put that in your shaping machine.
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- fuzzy is as fuzzy was --
LilDevil, 13:11:02 05/01/12 Tue
i was particularly impressed with the mid-air pancake theory......."
Its ok, personally I like the nano nuke thermite one better.
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- oil production up nicely in newly freed states of iraq and libya.iran output sputters --
Bizarro_Greenspan, 13:02:02 05/01/12 Tue
shows what a little regime changing can do,to get that much needed oil to market.
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- Yeah,we got seven years of feasting coming right up --
Bizarro_Greenspan (), 12:54:57 05/01/12 Tue
the Lordy sez,"Let's get this party started,dickweeds".
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- Is there any Disney blooper videos --
Bizarro_Greenspan, 12:58:03 05/01/12 Tue
We can watch?
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- @all the sunshine girls ... are airbrushed ... -- mozel, 12:56:27 05/01/12 Tue
even the scientists of flesh knows this ...
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- themfuel rods --
Bizarro_Greenspan, 12:52:37 05/01/12 Tue
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- What happened to the good enemies like --
Jasper, 12:51:55 05/01/12 Tue
Mohammed Yasser Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa al-Husseini
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- Dow breaks higher --
Bizarro_Greenspan, 12:50:34 05/01/12 Tue
Gurk's market rollover call looks to be askew,perhaps he missed some factors.
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- well the stock market is obviously predicting Good Time Ahead! --
zygoat, 12:49:23 05/01/12 Tue
that is what it does, right?
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- @trust your eyes -- mozel, 12:49:15 05/01/12 Tue
the hand is quicker than the eye, tele vision is quicker than vision ... beware mirages and illusions ... lest you by following false sightings go the way of perdition ...
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- breaking lame promo --
Bizarro_Greenspan, 12:46:47 05/01/12 Tue
Syrian "rebel army" being infiltrated by L-Kayda,nater whitehats must intervene before terra mushrooms.
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- First of all, as Jim Mccanny says, any good independent --
MichaelH (), 11:33:55 05/01/12 Tue
scientist will be thrown out of the system with the promise they can never get back into the system. He was an astrophysicist. They are tier 2 and tier 3 scientists and if they want to get accurate or truthful, bye bye out of the system. He is quite accomplished on comets, electric universe as well as solving the hundreds of year old prime number problem.
Johnny is posting government scientist stuff and if you actually believe that, then you believe whatever MSM and the government tells you, AND their are alot of people around who do. They don't have a clue what is happening and going to happen and when it does, they will be mad as hell. These guys tier 2 and 3 are either stupid or fearful and speak as they are told.
Velovkosky was an independent thinker and the system didn't like him making accurate assessments (he was actually more of a historian, looking at historical artifacts and evidence) so all the system paid scientists in that field united to attack his credibility - though his book was a best seller, until stiffled.
Tptb do have tier 1 scientists, but they don't speak publicly or to tier 2 and 3 scientists. Only for tptb to hear.
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- gurk not here --
johnny, 12:43:24 05/01/12 Tue
pretending to be up in a hot air balloon
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- Rupert Murdoch Not Fit to Lead News Corp --
Jasper, 12:43:06 05/01/12 Tue
Like, I mean, you know, you know, who is going to fire him. Oh, that's right, time for a heart attack.
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- mid-air pancake theory --
johnny, 12:41:31 05/01/12 Tue
a glorious theory
brewster thornberry at his peak
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- "....those who have ears to hear will hear ......." --
LilDevil, 12:39:28 05/01/12 Tue
.
Special holy ears eh?
Those who have erred hear what they want to hear.
Behold !! Thou ears haveth deceived you, trust thy eyes, use thy logic. It is written
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- fuzzy is as fuzzy was --
Bizarro_Greenspan, 12:38:34 05/01/12 Tue
i was particularly impressed with the mid-air pancake theory
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- How many deaths so far ?? --
johnny, 12:38:05 05/01/12 Tue
er nobody
but its a popular subject among knotheads and drunks
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- fuel rods could cause a nuclear --
johnny, 12:35:59 05/01/12 Tue
yes lil devil
danger lurks around the corner
plus the japs just got an idea for getting the kuriles back from the russians
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- Sex is not a sacred force ... it's a carnal force ... -- mozel, 11:53:33 05/01/12 Tue --
LilDevil (), 12:22:57 05/01/12 Tue
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Correction: Its a biological reproductive force, perhaps an emotional force.
Carnal and/or sacred?
Primitive sexual superstitions got nothing to do with it. Man made rules and/or lies.
Jealous gods watching and judging billions of primates making out. Ya that makes sense.
The Gods luv porn.
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- @getting out more ... -- mozel, 12:33:43 05/01/12 Tue
let each be persuaded in his own heart ... those who have ears to hear will hear ...
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- fukushima disaster@ Japan --
LilDevil (), 12:29:23 05/01/12 Tue
.
How many deaths so far ??
How many hospitalized ??
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LilDevil (), 12:15:42 05/01/12 Tue
holocaust if compressed and contained, such that a sustained chain reaction could feed on itself and go into runaway mode. This is how you make a nuclear bomb...................."
cause a nuclear holocaust!!!!!!!!
This is how you make a nuclear bomb !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cement and fuel rods? Bahahahahahahahahahahahaha.!
Really? Lol
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- Phallus paintings in Bhutan --
Sherlock (), 12:17:14 05/01/12 Tue
Phallus paintings in Bhutan are esoteric symbols, which have their origins in the Chimi Lhakhang monastery near Punakha, the former capital of Bhutan. The village monastery was built in honour of Lama Drukpa Kunley who lived in the 15-16th century and who was popularly known as the "Mad Saint" or “Divine Madman” for his unorthodox ways of teaching, which amounted to being bizarre and shocking. These explicit paintings, though embarrassing to many urbanites now (this folk culture is now informally discouraged in urban centres[1]), can be seen painted on the walls of houses and buildings throughout Bhutan, particularly in villages, and are credited as Kunley's creations.[2][3] Traditionally symbols of an erect penis in Bhutan have been intended to drive away the evil eye and malicious gossip.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallus_paintings_in_Bhutan
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- WIFFO's 05:40 ....written expression at its best! -- Kip, 07:41:38 05/01/12 Tue --
Glyndwr, 12:11:59 05/01/12 Tue
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- Sex is not a sacred force ... it's a carnal force ... -- mozel, 11:53:33 05/01/12 Tue
Flesh requires flesh for worship ... the Creator Father of Jesus Christ is a Spirit who must be worshipped in spirit and in truth ... St. John 4:24 ... 16 No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent is made worse. 17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved. Matthew 9 ...
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- here we go... --
WIFFO, 11:20:22 05/01/12 Tue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C3KzALgzIc
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- another ruthless dictator killing his own people,just ask that buttplug Clooney --
Bizarro_Greenspan, 11:06:33 05/01/12 Tue
"US and Israeli military support of Juba is not a new phenomenon. Sudan’s civil war (1983-2005), which cost an estimated 2.5 million lives, could not have lasted as long as it did without steady sources of military funding."
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- bloomberg: Manufacturing in U.S. Expands at a Faster Pace as ISM Index Climbs to 54.8 Q --
last-call (), 10:35:03 05/01/12 Tue
With that bs report topping the news at bloomberg this morning, maybe some of these poor folks that work at whirlpool can feel a little better now and a few of them will vote for Obama, again.
(*4 years ago, their union endorsed obama )
http://5newsonline.com/2012/04/27/whirlpool-fort-smith-to-shut-down-june-29/
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- Wot's he taking? --
WIFFO, 10:44:39 05/01/12 Tue
Horny Goat Weed ?
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- Dominique.....is being barbequed --
WIFFO, 10:37:22 05/01/12 Tue
Dominique Strauss-Kahn's string of lovers
by: The Times
From: The Times
May 02, 2012 12:00AM
DOMINIQUE Strauss-Kahn was having regular sex with six women, some of whom were half his age.
But when a French judge suggested he might have guessed they were prostitutes, the former managing director of the International Monetary Fund was indignant.
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- @ Wiffo - No but here's my Sunshine girl .... --
Gurk (), 12:16:31 04/30/12 Mon
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- Well, anechdotal... but email from my sister in Portland --
MichaelH, 09:54:10 05/01/12 Tue
My Rhubarb
Never have I seen it do this in 21 years!
(I can't fetch the picture right now).
but replied if related to Fukashima. I don't know the extent of effects, but there are effects. Also vaccines given in 50's and 60's contained a couple other dozen viruses one scientist thought could be actviated by radiation... Have no idea, but I like that scientist.
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- Everyone is invited! --
WIFFO, 09:46:47 05/01/12 Tue
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- C'mon ellix and johnny and gurk BOS and mozie, norman,...... --
WIFFO, 09:43:38 05/01/12 Tue
let's all go and dance around the maypole, just for one night!
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- check the date on your link and check the context-- looks --
ellix, 09:21:10 05/01/12 Tue
like the evacuation plan has been updated.
In any case, I recognize that there is a lot of paranoia mongering. Still, I am comforted by living in the southern hemisphere...
By The European Union Times
18 April 12
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- UK censorship ......just the start --
BUFFORD, 09:20:00 05/01/12 Tue
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17894176
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- i never said that --
johnny, 09:12:05 05/01/12 Tue
tokyo is the canary
is in the history books
right after remember the alamo
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- it would be hard to cover up a mass exodus of millions --
johnny, 09:06:51 05/01/12 Tue
not if you do it under cover of darkness
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- I never said that --
johnny, 09:04:40 05/01/12 Tue
jesus christ ellix
i said you were right and you stab me in the back
ingrate
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- Spot Silver ... 8 hr chart -- Kip, 09:01:46 05/01/12 Tue

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- the chicque "designer" approach to destroying the whirled --
johnny, 09:01:27 05/01/12 Tue
tres chic ill say
i have a box of chanel plutonium no 5 in the old closet
gonna have a party
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- ellix was right --
ellix, 09:00:32 05/01/12 Tue
I never said that. What I said was, essentially, that such a large urban center in close proximity would serve as the canary. The population is too smart and too well informed to hang around if the contamination becomes significant-- and, it would be hard to cover up a mass exodus of millions.
It might help to write out the above a few hundred times so that you do not forget, again.
Thanks for getting the spelling right of ellix.
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- John Howard is at it again...Howard predicts Rudd will roll Gillard. --
WIFFO, 08:59:11 05/01/12 Tue
Smooth as a banana milkshake Johnny lays the trap.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/latest/a/-/article/13570714/howard-predicts-rudd-will-roll-gillard/
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- jews admit holocaust was a fake --
johnny (), 08:56:52 05/01/12 Tue
story got started when a soft drink bottle exploded on top a gas oven in munich and killed two hassidics..
holocaust museum to be converted into basketball court
sorry no link
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- johnny.......yes, likely all of humanity has been planning this for some time... --
AZAU, 08:56:24 05/01/12 Tue
with their man-made plutonium...the chicque "designer" approach to destroying the whirled.....
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- stoic japanese........they know the fukushima disaster is --
AZAU (), 08:45:54 05/01/12 Tue
terminal...they took the hit with nagasaki and hiroshima, and are now "giving it all back" to humanity in spades with the potential release of plutonium into the world. They have spoiled their island home, and now they cannot reverse that. The russians poured concrete around and entombed chernobyl as the only way to contain the disaster, but japan likely cannot even do that, since the enormous number of fuel rods could cause a nuclear holocaust if compressed and contained, such that a sustained chain reaction could feed on itself and go into runaway mode. This is how you make a nuclear bomb. good luck with that.
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- stoic japanese --
johnny, 08:52:38 05/01/12 Tue
clever buggers
theyve been planning this for years
its kamakaze time
die yankee dogs
hey this is fun
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- In other News.......Rupert Murdoch Not Fit to Lead News Corp --
WIFFO, 08:46:26 05/01/12 Tue
breaking....Bloomberg's Olivia Stearns reports that News Corp. Chairman Rupert Murdoch is “not a fit person” to lead a major international company, U.K. lawmakers said, after his U.K. unit misled Parliament about the extent of phone hacking at its News of the World tabloid. She speaks on Bloomberg Television's "Inside Track." (Source: Bloomberg)
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- ukranian news reports --
johnny, 08:40:43 05/01/12 Tue
all japs dead from radiation
replaced by radiation resistant robots and cyborgs
sorry no link
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- hahaha wiffo --
johnny, 08:37:33 05/01/12 Tue
i fooled you i fooled you
hyuk hyuk hyuk
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- japs plan to evacuate Tokyo.... --
WIFFO, 08:34:29 05/01/12 Tue
my busted bum batman, is this true?
it's all cock robin....
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- russian news --
johnny, 08:26:55 05/01/12 Tue
japs plan to evacuate tokyo
ellix was right
http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/344-208/11006-russia-stunned-after-japanese-plan-to-evacuate-40-million-revealed
o shit this is some crap from a year ago .. fucked up again
.. sorry
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- politicians are going to take the fall for the bankster fraud and abuse... MAYDAY..uk telegraph --
AZAU, 08:16:48 05/01/12 Tue
Strikes and protests planned throughout Europe for May Day, with French police fearing violence as Presidential candidates Nicolas Sarkozy, Francois Hollande and Marine Le Pen all plan rallies in Paris.
Spain slides back in recession. Demonstrators hold signs that read
By Matthew Sparkes
1:01PM BST 01 May 2012
• May Day protests planned throughout Europe
• Venizelos: Greece could be forced to leave the euro
• UK manufacturing growth slumps unexpectedly in April
• German finance minister: Spain must stick to austerity
• Pain in Spain to deepen as it double-dips into recession
Latest
13.01 Marine Le Pen told National Front supporters today that she would cast a blank vote in a presidential runoff between Sarkozy and Hollande but said she would not advise them on how to vote.
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Just say NO to austerity -- and making the serfs starve.
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- Dismal presidents and the dismal science (economics).... --
AZAU, 08:12:52 05/01/12 Tue
it's the economy, stupid!
Obama Fails to Stem Middle-Class Slide He Blamed on Bush
BloombergBy Mike Dorning | Bloomberg – 11 hours ago
Barack Obama campaigned four years ago assailing President George W. Bush for wage losses suffered by the middle class. More than three years into Obama's own presidency, those declines have only deepened.
The rebound from the worst recession since the 1930s has generated relatively few of the moderately skilled jobs that once supported the middle class, tightening the financial squeeze on many Americans, even those who are employed.
"It started long before Obama, but he hasn't done anything," said John Forsyth, 58, a railroad-car inspector and political independent from Lebanon, Ohio. "He kept pushing this change, change, change, and he hasn't done anything."
Underlying the erosion of the middle class, defined by some economists as the middle 60 percent of income earners, are trends that stretch back decades, including competition from lower-wage workers overseas and technological advances that allow factories and offices to produce more with less labor.
As a candidate in 2008, Obama blamed the reversals largely on the policies of Bush and other Republicans. He cited census figures showing that median income for working-age households -- those headed by someone younger than 65 -- had dropped more than $2,000 after inflation during the first seven years of Bush's time in office.
Yet real median household income in March was down $4,300 since Obama took office in January 2009 and down $2,900 since the June 2009 start of the economic recovery, according to an analysis of census data by Sentier Research, an economic- consulting firm in Annapolis, Maryland.
1% Get 93%
A president who attacked Bush's policies for favoring the rich has overseen a recovery in which the wealthiest 1 percent captured 93 percent of per-capita real income gains in 2010, according to an analysis of tax data by Emmanuel Saez, an economics professor at the University of California at Berkeley.
On average, families in the top 1 percent saw their inflation-adjusted incomes rise by $105,637 that year from 2009, according to Saez.
While there is no settled definition of middle class, the middle 60 percent of households nationwide in 2010 earned between $20,000 and $100,000, according to the U.S. Census.
In and around Dayton, Ohio, a region that has endured a wrenching shift from dependence on the auto industry to new sources of growth such as distribution warehouses and information technology, disappointment with Obama is often balanced by wariness of his Republican challenger, Mitt Romney.
"I don't know if there's anybody I'm going to vote for," Forsyth said of the candidates.
Limited Opportunity
While the U.S. unemployment rate fell from a peak of 10 percent in October 2009 to 8.2 percent in March, the jobs data that dominate public discussion obscure a shift that has limited opportunity for workers such as Forsyth.
Ninety-five percent of the net job losses during the recession were in middle-skill occupations, such as office workers, bank tellers and machine operators, according to research by economists Nir Jaimovich of Duke University in Durham, North Carolina, and Henry Siu of the University of British Columbia in Vancouver.
The job growth since has been clustered in either high- skill fields inaccessible to workers without advanced education or low-paying industries, they found.
In March, 3.2 million fewer Americans held sales and office jobs than five years earlier, and 1.2 million fewer were employed in transportation and production fields, all areas that typically pay middle-income wages, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Dayton's Dreams
By contrast, the number of better-paid managerial and professional employees grew by almost 2 million over that period and employment in lower-paying service jobs expanded by 1.5 million.
In Dayton -- the birthplace of aviation and such inventions as the mechanical cash register, the self-starting car engine, the stepladder and cellophane tape -- these trends have diminished incomes and curtailed dreams.
Mandy Copeland, a 34-year-old occupational therapy assistant, and her husband, a heating and ventilation technician, have given up hope of trading their three-bedroom ranch house for a home with a basement that they could turn into a recreation room for their three children.
Eighteen-year-old Alex Ray recently decided he would wait on attending a four-year college and instead spend his first year at a local community college. His father, Tom Ray, a 47- year-old information-technology project manager who only recently regained a wage cut his employer imposed during the recession, praised his son for a "very mature" choice that he estimated would save $20,000.
Falling Birthrate
Fewer children are being brought into the world; the birthrate in Montgomery County, where Dayton is located, has fallen every year since 2007, in keeping with a national trend. Even the rituals of death have changed.
To save money, families are increasingly choosing cremation over burial, said Anne Dunbar, co-owner of a funeral home in the Dayton suburb of Springfield. Others are forgoing memorial services for simple graveside ceremonies. Rather than flowers or donations to a charity, 15 to 20 families a year now ask that newspaper obituaries include a plea for contributions toward funeral expenses, she said.
âThe Real Majority'
The challenges facing residents in this Ohio city about 60 miles north of Cincinnati have been emblematic of the issues that have moved centrist swing voters ever since the 1970 publication of "The Real Majority," a top-selling political analysis. Authors Richard Scammon and Ben Wattenberg created a mythical 47-year-old Dayton housewife to argue that her most pressing concerns had the potential to turn presidential elections.
Today, the most pressing concern for Lisa Meeks, 47, is making herself "more marketable" to potential employers. Meeks, who left her pre-school teaching position because her hours were reduced, now rides the bus to Sinclair Community College in the morning and then boards another bus to get to her new job, working the evening shift as a call-center manager.
"I'm still seeing people struggling," said Meeks. "You hear people saying, âI've put in four job applications and I haven't heard anything back. What am I doing wrong?'"
Though the scale is greater, the workplace shifts that Dayton and the rest of the country are seeing parallel the Bush- era job trends that Obama criticized four years ago, when he said that during President Bill Clinton's administration "the average American family saw its income go up $7,500 instead of go down $2,000, like it has under George Bush."
Stopping Downturn
Arriving in the White House during a financial crisis, Obama concentrated on stopping a downturn that many economists feared could turn into a depression. He pressed for an $831 billion stimulus package and an auto-industry bailout. He cut taxes for middle-class workers and backed a health-care overhaul that he said would help middle-income families by keeping medical costs down and easing access to insurance coverage.
To promote a skilled workforce, the Obama administration has stressed support for education, including aid to local schools to reduce teacher layoffs. It has emphasized infrastructure improvements to promote competitiveness and backed clean-energy technologies that could provide future jobs.
Romney says deficit spending to finance the stimulus, uncertainty generated by the health law, and tighter regulation of the financial industry have deterred businesses from hiring. He backs reductions in government spending and tax cuts, including for wealthy "job creators" to spur investment.
Nothing Obama has accomplished in office so far has stopped what Siu calls "the hollowing out of the middle."
No Overnight Fix
Just 19 percent of registered voters believe the president's policies favor the middle class, compared with 25 percent who say they benefit the rich, according to a CBS-New York Times poll conducted Feb. 8-13. Still, asked to choose which candidate would do a better job protecting the middle class, 49 percent say Obama and 39 percent Romney, according to an April 5-8 ABC News-Washington Post poll.
"The economic crisis, deep recession and wage stagnation weren't created overnight and they won't be solved overnight," Amy Brundage, a White House spokeswoman, said in an e-mail. "While we are making progress and the economy is growing and creating jobs, too many middle class families are still struggling to recover from the worst financial crisis of our lifetimes caused by the reckless economic policies of the past."
Fundamental Forces
Siu and other economists attribute the phenomenon to such fundamental forces as the movement of production offshore to lower-cost countries and technological gains that have made U.S. companies more efficient. Even with 5.2 million fewer Americans employed since January 2008, the U.S. is turning out more goods and services than before the recession, one reason corporate profits hit record levels and wealthy investors prospered.
Robots are replacing factory workers. Airport kiosks are taking the place of ticket agents. Intuit Inc. (INTU)'s TurboTax software performs the work of accountants.
"This is early days. We see the next 10 years as being more disruptive than the last 10," said Erik Brynjolfsson, director of the MIT Center for Digital Business and co-author of the book "Race Against the Machine." He cites developments in artificial-intelligence technologies such as those in Google Inc. (GOOG)'s experimental self-driving car, International Business Machine Corp. (IBM)'s Jeopardy-playing Watson computer, and Apple Inc. (AAPL)'s Siri voice-recognition software.
Plant Closing
That disruption is being felt in the Dayton area. Thousands of auto workers and employees at related parts manufacturers and machine-tool makers lost their jobs after General Motors Co. (GM) closed its plant in nearby Moraine two days before Christmas in 2008. Less than six months later, NCR Corp. (NCR), once called National Cash Register Co. and founded in Dayton in 1884, said it would move its headquarters to Duluth, Georgia, taking more than a thousand jobs with it.
Unemployment in the Dayton metropolitan region reached 12.4 percent in January 2010, though the jobless rate had come down to 8.7 percent in February.
Some of the lost manufacturing and office jobs have been replaced by growth in warehouse centers that take advantage of the area's location near the intersection of two interstate highways, said Richard Stock, director of the Business Research Group at the University of Dayton.
Caterpillar Logistics, a unit of Peoria, Illinois-based Caterpillar Inc. (CAT), and Carter Logistics LLC opened distribution centers in the area. Employees at those and other warehouses are paid "above a living wage, but they're definitely for the most part lower-middle-income jobs," Stock said.
High Skills Needed
The other major sources of growth have been in information technology, exemplified by Teradata Corp. (TDC), headquartered in Dayton, and Reed Elsevier Plc (REL)'s Lexis Nexis unit, which has a facility in the area, Stock said
Aeronautics and advanced materials manufacturing have also expanded around Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, home of the Air Force Materiel Command and Air Force Research Laboratory, Stock said. GE Aviation, a unit of Fairfield, Connecticut-based General Electric Co. (GE), broke ground last year on a $51 million research center in Dayton.
"Those jobs are at the very high-skilled end, jobs that require quite a bit of education," Stock said. "There are not too many jobs in the middle."
As a result, pay has declined. Real average weekly earnings in the metropolitan area dropped to $800 last year from $817 in 2007, according to U.S. Labor Department data analyzed by Stock.
Sitting on a metal bleacher watching her 7-year-old son at an early evening baseball practice, Mandy Copeland reflected on the expectations she and her husband had six years ago when she finished the coursework that qualified her for her occupational therapy job.
"We had pretty high hopes," she said. "Now we're just happy we have jobs."
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- fukushima....plutonium 239 .....unused fuel rods...no problemo... --
AZAU, 08:09:59 05/01/12 Tue
the half life is only 24000 years!
"clean up" is a euphemism for "kiss yer ass goodbye"
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- WIFFO's 05:40 ....written expression at its best! -- Kip, 07:41:38 05/01/12 Tue
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- Catholic priest admits secret marriage --
WIFFO, 06:53:07 05/01/12 Tue
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/13570958/catholic-priest-admits-secret-marriage/
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- The Extinction Protocol: 2012 and beyond_Cape Breton News --
Caper, 06:23:35 05/01/12 Tue
http://www.scoop.it/t/cape-breton-island-news-views/p/1701882060/the-extinction-protocol-2012-and-beyond-cape-breton-news
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- Timebomb2000 Forum_Cape Breton News --
Caper, 06:20:56 05/01/12 Tue
http://www.scoop.it/t/cape-breton-island-news-views/p/1701874440/timebomb2000-forum-cape-breton-news
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- good one norm --
johnny, 05:57:06 05/01/12 Tue
gurtrude is stone cold crazy
his life is a fabrication .. without the travel channel he
would go up in smoke
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- Just been catching up on a few posts,, Fuck me.. --
normandyrevulsion, 05:42:10 05/01/12 Tue
This is for you gurk,,
Elton John - Madman Across the Water
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9fEdoJzU3U&feature=related
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- the linga and the yoni are ancient symbols in all ancient cultures --
WIFFO, 05:40:05 05/01/12 Tue
if you go to Anchor Wat in Cambodia, you will see them everywhere in the old palaces, usually at cross corridors in the buildings.
An erect stone is placed in basin like stone structure. Milk is poured over the erect stone to symbolize the ejaculation of semen and received by the yoni basin. This symbolizes the sacred reproductive process and is done to obtain good luck, fortune, good marriage, good crops etc.
The Khmer civilization covered almost all of SE Asia in it's epoch, it had it's origins in ancient India and gradually became Buddhist, then it eventually faded after many centuries, but left a cultural and historic imprint that is evidenced today.
Is it any wonder that the modern Christian churches with their requirement of celibacy for the priesthood, and the non association with women in their halls of power, male domination, that we see so much perverted sexual abuse. These men have no sexual outlet so they become predatory, on the weakest possible targets according to circumstance.
A single sex boarding school, full of horny young adolescent males, or impressionable children in a parish full of brainwashed young families. It is not until the ground rules are changes for Christian and particularly Catholic churches that we should hope for any change.
The old cultures were much more practical, they worshiped sex as a sacred force, which it is.
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- GATA's Bill Murphy exposes how the Gold Cartel is Bombing the Market --
Caper, 05:22:15 05/01/12 Tue
GATA's Bill Murphy exposes how the Gold Cartel is Bombing the Market for Precious Metals_Cape Breton News
http://www.scoop.it/t/cape-breton-island-news-views/p/1701541726/gata-s-bill-murphy-exposes-how-the-gold-cartel-is-bombing-the-market-for-precious-metals-cape-breton-news
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- Sunshine Girl_Cape Breton Online News_Video Pics --
Caper, 05:19:57 05/01/12 Tue
Sunshine Girl_Cape Breton Online News_Video Pics
http://www.scoop.it/t/cape-breton-island-news-views/p/1701511572/sunshine-girl-cape-breton-online-news-video-pics
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- America in 'huge trouble,' says nuclear expert -- Caper, 05:02:36 05/01/12 Tue --
Bullishonbronze, 05:16:17 05/01/12 Tue
[ironic how this joke doesn't quite work nowadays]
Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing. - Redd Foxx
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- Avocado oil is a key component in the fight against free-radical aging and cancer proliferation --
Caper, 05:09:51 05/01/12 Tue
http://www.scoop.it/t/cape-breton-island-news-views/p/1701494614/avocado-oil-is-a-key-component-in-the-fight-against-free-radical-aging-and-cancer-proliferation
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- America in 'huge trouble,' says nuclear expert --
Caper, 05:02:36 05/01/12 Tue
Fukushima still spewing massive radiation plumes; Fukushima still spewing massive radiation plumes; America in 'huge trouble,' says nuclear expert
http://www.scoop.it/t/cape-breton-island-news-views/p/1701464770/fukushima-still-spewing-massive-radiation-plumes-america-in-huge-trouble-says-nuclear-expert
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- 1st. of May is apon us --
WIFFO, 04:55:12 05/01/12 Tue
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Day
we shall all dance around the Maypole, and be happy!
The maypole is the same as the linga, a phallic representation
It is also the same as Walpurgisnaght. Apon the eve the forces of good and evil unite in celebration and put away their differences for one night only!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walpurgisnacht
Great time to party!
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- cultural and economic scene, ca. 1975-79 --
Bullishonbronze, 04:55:05 05/01/12 Tue
http://youtu.be/3OPE8kZ7Ah4
Akroyd, Belushi, Murray, OJ Simpson
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- Listen to the Hits of Bobby Rydell_Free_Cape Breton Online News --
Caper, 04:46:34 05/01/12 Tue
Listen to the Hits of Bobby Rydell_Free_Cape Breton Online News
http://www.scoop.it/t/cape-breton-island-news-views/p/1701458222/listen-to-the-hits-of-bobby-rydell-free-cape-breton-online-news
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- Cosell & Ali and the German wristwatch --
Bullishonbronze, 04:45:45 05/01/12 Tue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXbY-CrxO9M&feature=youtu.be&t=2m26s
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- in the mirror it reads "dog" --
Bullishonbronze, 04:37:58 05/01/12 Tue
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/ohio-womans-forehead-tattoo-982341
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- end of suburbia (coupled with another housing crash due 2013) --
Bullishonbronze, 04:29:26 05/01/12 Tue
http://ad009cdnb.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/1335807541-suburbia3.jpg
2013 end of mortgage deduction
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- generational cycles --
Bullishonbronze (), 04:26:19 05/01/12 Tue
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Y
According to the authors' 1997 book, The Fourth Turning, modern history repeats itself every four generations; approximately 80–100 years. The authors of the book mention that the four-cycles always come in the same order.
The first one, the High cycle, occurs when a new order or human expansion is developed, replacing the older one.
The next cycle is called the Awakening. More spiritual than the previous, this is a time of rebellion against the already established order.
The third cycle is known as the Unraveling, when elements of individualism and fragmentation take over society, developing a troubled era which leads directly to the Fourth Turning, an era of crisis dominating society during which a redefinition of its very structure, goals, and purposes is established.
. . . Generation Y has been described in a New York Times article as entrepreneurial and, "a 'post-emotional' generation. No anger, no edge, no ego."
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- Were they using emoticons back in the era of Abraham Lincoln? --
Bullishonbronze, 04:16:25 05/01/12 Tue
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/19/hfo-emoticon/
Debussy - Rêverie
http://youtu.be/QRjllL-MP0U
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- copper @ 21Dec2012 --
Bullishonbronze (), 03:52:15 05/01/12 Tue
probably going to be the "3 days of darkness" prophesied by several saints&seers. A confluence of astronomical/solar event and religious forecast. Start building a Faraday Cage now and get some holy candles. When the days start do not look outside nor open the door to anyone.
since 1999, copper being driven by Faraday Cage demand
http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=HG&p=w1
venusian copper
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/metal2.html
NASA Voyager sounds
http://youtu.be/OP3Ghjm5d18
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- $NYA wkly --
Bullishonbronze, 04:01:00 05/01/12 Tue
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$NYA&p=W&b=5&g=0&id=p42098667815
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- << attn gardeners >> USDA has updated its "hardiness-zones" map --
Bullishonbronze, 03:32:33 05/01/12 Tue
http://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/PHZMWeb/InteractiveMap.aspx
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- If you live til the end of May (May 1 now), --
MichaelH, 02:48:03 05/01/12 Tue
You'll feel you got your full money's worth from the show. If you don't live til the end of May, you still feel you seen quite plenty enough. If you reach the point where you are standing on a stool to hang yourself, find a way to wait another week.
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- Popping up when I should be staying sleeping... --
MichaelH, 02:36:34 05/01/12 Tue
One comment about silver, I suspect we see it break $26 low, and that isn't bearish. It's a screaming buy right then and there.
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- more undeniable evidence Breitbart was murdered -- zygoat --
b_w, 02:10:20 05/01/12 Tue
Can you say Adolph Hitler and the Brown Shirts? The saddest part is that the FBI is in on it.
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- more undeniable evidence Breitbart was murdered --
zygoat, 01:56:21 05/01/12 Tue
http://www.examiner.com/article/breitbart-coroner-officially-murdered
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- I only got back middle of last week... --
johnny, 01:40:35 05/01/12 Tue
says crazy gurk
please post exit entry stamps in passport chief
my info is that youve been recovering from electric shock therapy
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- enenews --
johnny, 01:21:43 05/01/12 Tue
is a greenie rag normally read by drunks homos and dopes.
these morons have an agenda
try this instead
http://www.sheffnersweb.net/blogs/accuratemaps/news/no-big-fukushima-health-impact-seen-un-official-says-scientific-american/
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- BTW...truly sorry about yer health. --
MichaelH, 01:02:59 05/01/12 Tue
Some major corrections were needed. Good motivator to adjust what is majorly wrong. Was manifesting a couple weeks earlier - eating like 18 pastries and 3 pizza meals and several large chocolate bars... all can be spiritually based type not-doing problems.
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- It took me years to learn that... --
johnny, 01:01:36 05/01/12 Tue
fucking slow learner hey
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- dow 16k or Wolonchck --
MichaelH, 00:50:00 05/01/12 Tue
or both go bust. Neither will. That is when the fat lady sings and then the curtain drops.
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- Skys39 and corny corn ideas --
MichaelH, 00:33:53 05/01/12 Tue
Jim Mccanney talks about Monsanto corn, and wtshtf, this stuff won't be around nor the corporation which produces nor the facilities which produce this non-reproducing corn. And his taking on Monsanto with non-hybrid corn being propagated around the world for the last few years.
Also basic economics from a scientific viewpoint - all the non-producing grifters adding to the price of everything.
http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/WeeklyRadioShowArchivesSubPage.HTM
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- Fukushima Gov’t: Over 35% of young people tested have thyroid cysts or nodules --
skys39, 23:35:13 04/30/12 Mon
http://enenews.com/govt-thyroid-cysts-nodules-detected-35-children-18-years
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- @, it usually takes me 2 weeks .... -- Gurk, 15:42:45 04/30/12 Mon --
skys39, 23:31:23 04/30/12 Mon
pssst...
short corn futures 6 mo out
huge surplus coming from biblical like planting season
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- @Above Top Secret -- Caper, 21:41:52 04/30/12 Mon --
skys39, 23:27:58 04/30/12 Mon
DAMN!
i need to move to the great white crust..to find any substancial news!!!
wtf??
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- Above Top Secret --
Caper, 21:41:52 04/30/12 Mon
http://www.scoop.it/t/cape-breton-island-news-views/p/1699728738/abovetopsecret-com-conspiracy-theories-ufos-paranormal-political-madness-and-other-alternative-topics
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- I'd luv to stay up for the next johnny/Gurk show --
RIP, 20:19:02 04/30/12 Mon
...but it ain't gonna work out.
Night.
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- There ya go --
RIP, 20:07:15 04/30/12 Mon
Another asshole who hates the joint...but can't leave.
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- @ MUX -- RIP --
Permabear1, 20:05:08 04/30/12 Mon
Then there is RIP Mining...
The company has one mine an open pit shaft; however, the shaft is a constantly open mouth that pours out self-important utterances none of them actionable or useful.
Yep, it's that GD retired weatherman passing through with a drive-by insult. Get over it.
:-O
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- Can't Mikey and Pyrite take it to Pyrite's room? --
RIP (), 19:53:42 04/30/12 Mon
To elaborate.....spare us the self serving lectures at your joint on the flaws of this place.
Then pop in to comment.
BTW...truly sorry about yer health.
Besta luck.
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- Tom Harris who wrote I'm OK, You're OK --
Pyrite, 19:47:20 04/30/12 Mon
was a hack charlatan.
Games People Play by Eric Berne is less well known and 10x more accurate.
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- Whose famous last words were.... --
RIP, 19:24:54 04/30/12 Mon
"“Don’t turn on the light.â€
If you guessed OBL...you might be privvy to state secrets.
http://www.salon.com/2012/04/30/dog_training_the_press_corps/
BTW...here's Colbert from 2006
....But, listen, let’s review the rules. Here’s how it works. The President makes decisions. He’s the decider. The press secretary announces those decisions, and you people of the press type those decisions down. Make, announce, type. Just put ‘em through a spell check and go home. Get to know your family again. Make love to your wife. Write that novel you got kicking around in your head. You know, the one about the intrepid Washington reporter with the courage to stand up to the administration? You know, fiction!
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- I'm okay you're okay were hot books in the 70's --
Jasper, 19:12:01 04/30/12 Mon
And so was Erica Jong's Fear of Flying
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- It would seem a name for this forum could be... --
MichaelH, 19:01:46 04/30/12 Mon
I'm OK, you're NOT OK.
A variation on that book in 1970's
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- Just look at NYMEX action today and on Friday --
RIP, 18:37:51 04/30/12 Mon
What market is bidding up POG?
Hint....they don't speak Mandarin.
http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html
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- @ 8:31 gold dump --
RIP (), 18:30:28 04/30/12 Mon
Never ever fear the shorters.
Naked or whatever.
Just make sure you are buying the real thing.
Fuk yer ETFs.
All that matters is where POG ended the day.
Higher.
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- hormone disruptors, atrazine is just one of many in our enviro soup we swim in --
zygoat (), 18:05:39 04/30/12 Mon
"Renowned researcher and professor Tyrone Hayes has been studying the effects of the common herbicide atrazine for more than a decade. His findings contributed to the European Union's decision to ban this toxic endocrine disrupter.
Much of his research has focused on how atrazine affects amphibians, especially their processes of metamorphosis and sex differentiation. Be warned - it's not pretty.
In December 2010, Professor Hayes, who teaches at the University of California, Berkeley, gave a talk with mother and filmmaker Penelope Jagessar Chaffer at the TEDWomen conference in Washington DC to discuss what babies (and adults) can learn from frogs. Jenn Savedge at Mother Nature News posted a video of their appearance on her blog post Friday (April 27).
Uncomfortable with a chemical that causes sex-changes in frogs to be allowed in our water and on our farms? Let Washington know. Legislation introduced by Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) would ban the herbicide in the U.S. Rep. Ellison's bill - H.R.4318 - would specifically prohibit production, sale, use, importation or exportation of any pesticide containing atrazine."
---comment---Roundup is doing the same thing, but is even more ubiquitous...
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- "lack of manliness in today's establishment" --
zygoat, 17:25:49 04/30/12 Mon
exactly you hit the nail on the head...acting manly and defending his family from outside sabotage is a criminal offense these days, this is why the 911 meme was so thoroughly drilled into the heads of the females...that is their Easy Power Button..over half the females have been trained to do this at the drop of a hat
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- US futs turning down.....Dow esp --
Gurk, 17:19:28 04/30/12 Mon
Bos wants the OZ index to take a hammering...
Probably....we see...
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- @ "in one account" --
Gurk (), 16:42:16 04/30/12 Mon
..
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- If his margin is big enough he can ride it out .... --
Gurk (), 17:04:07 04/30/12 Mon
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- Proof that you don't have to be smart...to be rich. --
RIP, 17:08:34 04/30/12 Mon
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- Not to mention Telfer ran rings around McEwen --
RIP, 17:07:42 04/30/12 Mon
....with the old Wheaton/Goldcorp/Glamis shuffle.
I doubt McEwen even knew what hit him.
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- @ MUX --
RIP, 17:04:24 04/30/12 Mon
The audacity to name a company after yourself is mind numbing.
McEwen was an accounting turd in Toronto when the old Dickenson mine (1949) hit paydirt with deep drilling.
To think he is a mining expert....suspends belief.
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- If a Dow or S&P short works out anything like a Treasury short --
RIP, 16:53:47 04/30/12 Mon
...yer going nowhere.
It's a tough market.
Actually...there's no such thing as an easy market.
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- Normally, you'd want to see a trend change... --
Gurk, 16:47:39 04/30/12 Mon
But you do have a fairly distinct signal here....
Just don't do this again....risk is stratospheric...
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- Some pics of the recent WHCA dinner --
RIP (), 16:33:54 04/30/12 Mon
Hint...watch them before you eat.
http://darkroom.baltimoresun.com/2012/04/scenes-from-the-2012-white-house-correspondents-association-dinner-and-afterparty/
Edit....WTF was Newt Gingrich doing there????
http://darkroom.baltimoresun.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/REU-USA__0031.jpg
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- @there's something to the lack of manliness -- Smythe, 16:10:13 04/30/12 Mon --
Bullishonbronze, 16:39:41 04/30/12 Mon
ps. http://www.dglucarate.com/ & http://www.iherb.com/D-adamo-Genoma-Nutritionals-DetoxiCal-D-90-Veggie-Caps/36593
(not to be confused with gluconate, which has entirely different medical use)
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- . . . --
Bullishonbronze, 16:33:22 04/30/12 Mon
http://youtu.be/xEgP4pmUlKE
Creed
au revoir
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- @ Kimmel and WHCA -- RIP, 16:27:48 04/30/12 Mon --
Bullishonbronze, 16:31:02 04/30/12 Mon
yes. But O laughing already . . . all the way to the bank.
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- manage .... -- Gurk, 16:16:43 04/30/12 Mon --
Bullishonbronze, 16:29:00 04/30/12 Mon
in one account it's too late for that. Now in full-throttle mode.
La Cumparsita (flamenco guitar)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySnUVqxtR78&feature=youtu.be&t=1m10s
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- @ Kimmel and WHCA --
RIP, 16:27:48 04/30/12 Mon
The only good host is the one who FAILS to make the president laugh.
And that was Stephen Colbert.
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- Gurk @ sweat every trade.. --
Bullishonbronze, 16:20:13 04/30/12 Mon
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/hugh-hendry-back-full-eclectica-letter
You've . . . a soul mate in the prolific but often misunderstood Italian soccer player Pippo Inzaghi, the second highest scorer in all European club competitions. He has 70 goals behind him but he recently noted that, 'the tension is always the same...I hoped to become less agitated with time, but this is also my strength'.
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- @pog -- Smythe, 16:15:34 04/30/12 Mon --
Bullishonbronze, 16:17:00 04/30/12 Mon
http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=GC&p=w1
weekly futures
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- music for aspiration --
Bullishonbronze (), 16:12:32 04/30/12 Mon
http://youtu.be/LGdFfUChiKA
Loin des Villes, Yann Tiersen
(a'la Great Expectations)
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- @pog --
Smythe, 16:15:34 04/30/12 Mon
Big and necessary consolidation. Impressive action imo.
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- OK, no need to be facetious.... -- Gurk, 15:51:15 04/30/12 Mon --
Bullishonbronze, 16:13:07 04/30/12 Mon
the depletion of zinc and DHA levels is probably at the root of it. John Gray, author of Men are from Mars, Women from Venus gave a Playboy interview ca. 1993 that attested. And Dale Carnegie in his c. 1936 book devoted a chapter to sublimation and its role in practical accomplishment.
Inna de Romania
http://youtu.be/6kWB3Vl_xRI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inna
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- @there's something to the lack of manliness --
Smythe, 16:10:13 04/30/12 Mon
Estrogen pollution everywhere.
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- Bullish...without Sherlock here --
RIP, 16:06:09 04/30/12 Mon
...I have little reason to mention FAZ.
Remember his track record on the thing?
Undefeated.
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- @ math question @ prime numbers -- Bullishonbronze, 15:37:38 04/30/12 Mon --
Gurk, 16:05:56 04/30/12 Mon
There you go, you got Kip here....
I'll listen if he gets into divisible fractions...
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- ETFs are a mug's game --
RIP, 15:59:39 04/30/12 Mon
All of them.
A killer of capital.
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- @ don't go nuts on $Vix signals end of the month... --
Gurk, 15:58:32 04/30/12 Mon
You'll end up going down on a tampon..
Vix is options expiry right now . That's all you need to know...
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- Ron Paul interview by Paul Krugman ....Bloomberg TV, starts about NOW -- Kip, 15:58:05 04/30/12 Mon
http://t.co/6Dioi4cS
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- $VIX conjecture --
Bullishonbronze, 15:53:21 04/30/12 Mon
http://cyclicalmarketanalysis.blogspot.com/2012/04/vix-update.html
(annotated chart)
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- $VIX --
Bullishonbronze, 15:49:35 04/30/12 Mon
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$VIX&p=D&yr=0&mn=9&dy=0&id=p36394509060
* simple MAvg
* log scale w/ exponential MAvg
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$VIX&p=D&yr=0&mn=9&dy=0&id=p49232484272
the first chart looks potentialful; the second, merely a retest of MAvg.
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- Bos, when I've been away , it usually takes me 2 weeks .... -- Gurk, 15:42:45 04/30/12 Mon --
Bullishonbronze, 15:45:20 04/30/12 Mon
RIP hasn't mentioned it since April 16th. That's two weeks. ;)
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- @ math question @ prime numbers -- Bullishonbronze, --
Gurk, 15:44:48 04/30/12 Mon
Yes of course - Logs
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- TZA //. . . ostensible bottom --
Bullishonbronze, 15:42:48 04/30/12 Mon
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=TZA&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p41656148483
MAvgs more so parallel than seen on FAZ chart.
only thing is $RUT, the inverse of TZA, still has overhead unfilled gap. (And it's MAvgs are supportive.)
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$RUT&p=D&yr=0&mn=3&dy=0&id=p22638460969
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- math question @ prime numbers --
Bullishonbronze, 15:37:38 04/30/12 Mon
is there any sort of prime number like thing having to do with fractions?
TIA
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- FAZ . . . ostensible bottom --
Bullishonbronze (), 15:35:55 04/30/12 Mon
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=FAZ&p=D&yr=1&mn=9&dy=0&id=p00450666202
though would be easier to say if the MAvgs were parallel. And usually after a big spike an issue will take some time to go sideways after having had fallen.
..............
reference:
http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/candleglance.html?AIG,BAC,C,DB,GS,JPM,WFC,ibkr|B
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- @ " Lou was born almost deaf." --
Gurk, 15:34:35 04/30/12 Mon
Into the Internet age....
He probably had a nagging jewish mother as well..
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- pinksheets @ WallStreet .......................... rocket characteristics --
Bullishonbronze, 15:30:34 04/30/12 Mon
today's action:
http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/candleglance.html?AMZN,BKS,GPRO,SUN,WCRX|B
AAPL last week. ... others
gotta be a racket to this. Tip offs to certain people, then next day rocket. Or something else also.
what happens when it begins to happen to the downside. Like NoKorea rocket.
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- Lou Ferrigno could hardly talk. -- RIP, 15:22:37 04/30/12 Mon --
Bullishonbronze, 15:24:29 04/30/12 Mon
not for lack of smarts. He was born almost deaf. Lou is a very accomplished person.
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- @ my usual kind, demure and personable self.... --
Gurk, 15:24:02 04/30/12 Mon
arranging the deck chairs.....
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- Paul Krugman has a squeaky voice and a beard just like Bernank --
Bullishonbronze, 15:23:20 04/30/12 Mon
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/watch-paul-krugman-dispense-keynesian-brilliance-debate-ron-paul-live
vs. Mel Gibson. He's got a manly voice: http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2012/04/mel-gibson-jokes-about-latest-rant-with-jay-leno-ive-got-a-tempe/
there's something to the lack of manliness in today's establishment politicians/financiers as to the innumerable problems multiplying in the world.
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- Lou Ferrigno could hardly talk. --
RIP, 15:22:37 04/30/12 Mon
But I'll bet he could type.
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- johnny legs --
Bullishonbronze, 15:17:15 04/30/12 Mon
I have spent a lot of time looking at women's legs and developing a theory about what elements in a supermodel's legs can be had in an ordinary wench, since it is the latter most likely I would encounter.
As far as male legs, the only time I spent time studying them when I had skinny legs as a boy and I studied Arnold Schwarzenegger who was king of body building at the time. There was another bodybuilder who had massive legs, can't recall his name. And there was Lou Ferrigno.
yeh, Lou Ferrigno. You're a lot like him as when he played the Incredible Hulk. Not your legs, but your temper.
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- Buffett’s cancer to be No. 1 topic at Berkshire annual meeting --
RIP, 15:05:29 04/30/12 Mon
Yeah....they are going to auction off his prostate as a baseball.
http://business.financialpost.com/2012/04/30/buffetts-cancer-to-be-no-1-topic-at-berkshire-annual-meeting/
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- GDXJ -- Kip, 15:03:00 04/30/12 Mon

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- Raja @ If I find it totally useless, I will delete it later. --
RIP, 14:56:21 04/30/12 Mon
rotfl
You have a way with words.
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- RIP --
Raja, 14:53:54 04/30/12 Mon
That was it! Thanks. I have bookmarked it. If I find it totally useless, I will delete it later.
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- @ Pundits may recall my Dow comments from Sat --
Gurk, 14:50:54 04/30/12 Mon
... Bad day today...
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- Raja....64855 --
RIP, 14:48:20 04/30/12 Mon
There are no others.
Unless yer looking for...ugh....this.
http://www.voy.com/216669/
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- RIP --
Raja, 14:46:28 04/30/12 Mon
Now I know that I have the wrong site on my bookmarks. I will delete it. Now, what is the link to the other popular site? Tia.
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- Doncha just love it when Trotsky-bot asks a question of the forum --
RIP, 14:43:22 04/30/12 Mon
Because I'm a nice guy...I will answer....although he won't read it.
There are many words that are not allowed here.
Social*st is just one among others like casin* and cial*s.
It is to keep bots away....but I guess it's not fool proof.
Raja....Cobb's is dead, done and buried.
It no longer exists.
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- "i wish it would overtake you chief" --
Gurk, 14:39:43 04/30/12 Mon
It will ..
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- I think reality has overtaken you old feller.. --
johnny, 14:36:09 04/30/12 Mon
i wish it would overtake you chief
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- question --
Raja, 14:33:02 04/30/12 Mon
There is one other voy site that is popular. If it 205877, then I can't get on it in spite of my re-registration; i.e., the administrator has not done a thing. If it is another site, would someone kindly give me a link? Thanks.
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- @ " its because youre in the looney bin" --
Gurk, 14:30:38 04/30/12 Mon
I feel like I am when I'm posting to you.....
I think reality has overtaken you old feller..
and it's a call to us all in a perverse way..
I don't wish you any harm, you're in your own bin..
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- GLD ....looking up? -- Kip, 14:29:42 04/30/12 Mon

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- I did warn you. --
johnny, 14:26:04 04/30/12 Mon
hahaha
do you think id take the advice of a madman??
hahaha
i now pronounce you gertrude rip and queenie
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- I use Avira --
Gurk, 14:25:40 04/30/12 Mon
Kraut and damn good, prolly 5 yrs now, no prob..
I run it with Tune up utilities.
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- update --
trotsky, 14:22:55 04/30/12 Mon
Growth versus Austerity - A Phony Debate
We keep reading in the financial press that Europe has a choice between either growth or austerity - as though the two were actually antonyms. Following Mario Draghi's call for a 'growth pact in Europe', French presidential contender Francois Hollande for instance felt that his ideas of how to revive the economy were vindicated.
Of course the debate such as it is now framed is complete malarkey. We can not have 'growth' unless the government spends more? Really?
The mindset evinced by the likes of Hollande is typical for that of a lifelong bureaucrat who never held a real job competing in the market economy and serving consumers. Similar to other 'enarques' that have been groomed for civil service from the outset, he thinks he can 'order nature around' as Fred Sheehan puts it in a recent article. The s**ialist 'technocrats' that comprise most of today's political and intellectual elite in Europe all fervently believe that the State can conjure prosperity as though it had a magic wand. Over 20 years after the collapse of the Svoiet Bloc, they continue to profess undying faith in central economic planning. And they have not yet understood that the age of endless debt expansion is actually over.
Hollande's plans read exactly like the hoary prescriptions of the s**ialists that came before him: raise already absurdly high taxes and increase government spending. So his recipe for 'growth' essentially consists of depressing private sector business further and wasting scarce resources.
One of the reasons for this doomed-to-fail approach to the economic problems of the day is the Keynesian propensity to aggregate everything. In this view, all spending and all output is good, as long as it is 'more' - regardless of what exactly the funds are spent on or what is actually produced. However, there is no such thing as a homogeneous blob named 'output'. This is an artificial construct that tells us absolutely nothing about the real world, in which countless raw, intermediate and final goods are produced in a complex latticework of millions of individual production plans that are coordinated by the price system.
Western economists of the Keynesian persuasion such as Paul Samuelson still ruminated in the late 1980's over 'when the Soviet Union would overtake the West economically'. They were looking at GOSPLAN's aggregated data of plan fulfillment and concluded that economic growth in the SU must be excellent. In reality, there was not even an economy there - instead it was simply complete chaos.
http://www.acting-man.com/?p=16595
Note: for some reason Voy's spam filter (which is once again not working right) refuses to let only a single word pass; it is the term that describes the party Francois Hollande belongs to. Why only this word and no other word is considered 'spam' remains a complete mystery.
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- whole factories churning out fake ID's.. --
johnny, 14:22:43 04/30/12 Mon
thats not the reason you wont post info on yourself
its because youre in the looney bin
rip is too dull to understand the point i was making
thats his problem
he thinks he judges me
he doesnt judge jack shit
hes a loser who picks up shit
lots of people like that
it has nothing to do with me
good for you queeny is here
she fits in nicely with you chaps
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- Axually, I've never been to Pyrites... --
Gurk, 14:21:56 04/30/12 Mon
but I assume Strat is there...
I also tried to dissaude Wiffo from posting
that personal stuff. I do sometimes but I wipe it
quickly. You have no idea how quick these dudes pick it up..
I pay a lot for my internut security. I need it. I get so many
hits, it's unreal. I can't afford a break-in.... Stupidity...
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- chicken-legs pic quite entertaining --
johnny, 14:15:36 04/30/12 Mon
says the little welcher drunk
your livers on the way out too
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- @ "that should be obvious " --
Gurk, 14:14:26 04/30/12 Mon
Do you really think I caught that Gerbil?
I have to agree with Rip, it was the height of stupidity
to post your ugly mug all over the internut. I did warn you.
Ask Strat over at Pyrites. People use that data. In China
there are whole factories churning out fake ID's..
Stupidity....
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- Well, I found the chicken-legs pic quite entertaining. --
Glyndwr, 14:11:50 04/30/12 Mon
Weekend wasn't a total loss of scroll time here.
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- The pictures were posted because yer an idiot --
RIP, 14:11:13 04/30/12 Mon
No one doubts you are a real person.
But you have proved you are a bigger self-centred moron than anyone imagined.
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- the difference between you and ellix .. gertrude --
johnny, 14:09:51 04/30/12 Mon
is that ellix is sane
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- Pardon my concern --
johnny, 14:08:12 04/30/12 Mon
the pictures were posted for a reason
youre too thick to understand
sorry and get a cancer check
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- Do you really think Alice caught that cat ? --
johnny, 14:05:57 04/30/12 Mon
that should be obvious even to a retarded madman ..
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- Well, johnny --
RIP, 14:04:42 04/30/12 Mon
...a guy who spends all weekend trying to post pictures of self and family surely has a nut loose.
Pardon my concern...for both you and the site.
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- Must be why you are getting so many responses --
johnny, 14:03:38 04/30/12 Mon
do you think i expect applause??
what sort of a jerkoff are you
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- @ "poopoo others -- johnny" --
Gurk, 14:03:21 04/30/12 Mon
I'll leave that to you and Alice...
Do you really think Alice caught that cat ?
You really are senile. Alice couldn't catch
a paralysed slug. It's less than dimwitted,
she makes cretinous sound like a degree ...
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- pardon me rip --
johnny, 14:02:02 04/30/12 Mon
why are you so interested in what i do?
i dont give a shit about you one way or the other
whats wrong with you fella
other than your liver that is
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- @i know some of them --
RIP, 14:01:33 04/30/12 Mon
That must mean they know you.
Must be why you are getting so many responses.
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- thanks rip --
johnny, 13:59:25 04/30/12 Mon
"Fucking brilliant.
Those people will love you."
theyre pretty nice guys
i know some of them
you wouldnt understand
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- gurkie likes to poopoo others --
johnny, 13:55:33 04/30/12 Mon
from his very safe position in the looney house
no cougar gonna gectha in the nuthouse chief
except one you might dream up
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- I think the only thing Alice ever met in the woods... --
Gurk, 13:54:51 04/30/12 Mon
was a friendly logger far from home...
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- @ imagine a mile long shit stream --
RIP, 13:52:00 04/30/12 Mon
Good thing you live it....and don't have to imagine.
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- johnny....your premonitions suck --
RIP, 13:49:58 04/30/12 Mon
@nice little gold recovery -- johnny, 13:41:58 04/30/12 Mon [1]
good omen
Fucking brilliant.
Those people will love you.
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- i like to see gurk meet a cougar in the woods --
johnny, 13:49:40 04/30/12 Mon
imagine a mile long shit stream
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- How many times will you threaten to leave for Pyrite's --
johnny, 13:47:54 04/30/12 Mon
well actually
as often as i like
i dont explain myself to you
try and understand
plus i get a premonition of cancer in this place
better watch out
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- The drain in Spain....... is err ....plain --
johnny, 13:44:58 04/30/12 Mon
jesus you are witty gertrude
wow
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- Here is a picture of a wild Gerbil I caught last week.. --
Gurk, 13:36:05 04/30/12 Mon
I hope I can get into johnnys good books with this
dangerous beast. Damn it was ferocious. I had to
have a good lie down after and double lock it's
cage it was such a vindictive little bastard....

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- BTW....I know ellix reads my stuff. --
RIP, 13:25:34 04/30/12 Mon
He has to do something between catching wild cats....and...
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- @ well "o i forgot rip -- johnny, 13:20:01 04/30/12 Mon do you think ellix reads your crap???" --
Gurk, 13:25:13 04/30/12 Mon
I know Alice reads all my crap..
She gets cross if I don't mention her while
skinny is having a sabbatical. Right Alice ?
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- Listen johnny --
RIP, 13:23:43 04/30/12 Mon
How many times will you threaten to leave for Pyrite's....before you actually do?
They don't give two shits about anything you are interested in.
Least of all your horse wagering and personal photo albums.
Your gold picks are yesterday's news.
This place may be strange.
But it's a comfortable strange.
And you know it.
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- The drain in Spain....... is err ....plain ? --
Gurk, 13:20:15 04/30/12 Mon
Spanish banks among heaviest buyers of government debt, ECB data shows
MADRID -- Spain's economy contracted for the second consecutive quarter in a row in the first quarter of the year confirming that recession has taken hold in the country as it braces for a week of anti-austerity protests.
The country's battered banking sector also suffered a widespread credit-rating downgrade Monday, fresh on the heels of Standard & Poor's decision last week to lower Spain's debt rating by two notches.
Spain's statistics bureau said Monday that the country's gross domestic product contracted 0.3% in the first quarter from the fourth. On an annual basis, GDP contracted 0.4%. In the fourth quarter of 2011, Spain's GDP had fallen 0.3% on a quarterly basis, but grew 0.3% on an annual basis. Economists define a recession as two consecutive quarters of economic contraction.
The numbers, however, are slightly above a central bank estimate released last week. The Bank of Spain said last week that first-quarter GDP contracted 0.4% from the fourth quarter, and 0.5% on an annual basis.
Still, the data confirms fears that Spain is far from a much-needed economic rebound. Unemployment has risen to 24.4% of the work force from below 10% in 2008. Government austerity measures have damped growth, which could in turn make it tougher for Madrid to achieve ambitious austerity targets.
Last week, Spain's government said it anticipates a minor economic rebound for 2013, but many private sector economists say that is unlikely amid a deep austerity drive that includes tens of billions worth of spending cuts to bring budget deficit down to 3% of GDP next year from 8.5% of GDP in 2011.
On Monday, a top official said the government will seek another EUR10 billion in spending cuts from regional and local governments, bringing the total to EUR20 billion. The measures, which include lower spending on public services like health care and education, are part of a broader package of painful cuts and reforms that are already stirring public outcry amid surging unemployment.
"The Spanish economy is back in recession," said Martin van Vliet, senior economist at ING. "No expenditure breakdown is available at this stage, but the Bank of Spain has said that domestic demand contracted sharply, and that net exports made a positive contribution to GDP, with imports falling at a faster pace than exports. Spain is clearly rebalancing the painful way."
"Looking ahead, we fear that things are likely to get worse before they get better," van Vliet wrote in a note to investors.
The signs of prolonged economic weakness come as Spain is bracing for a series of demonstrations against austerity reforms, including Labor Day rallies on Tuesday and potential marches on Thursday in Barcelona when the European Central Bank holds its governing council meeting in Spain's second-largest city.
Spain's main labor unions have called for demonstrations across the country on Tuesday to protest against recent labor market reforms and plans to slash spending.
The Spanish government has also imposed border checks to prevent anti-austerity activists from disrupting the ECB's meeting this week, although no formal demonstrations have been organized for Thursday.
With the bleak economic outlook and the ongoing slump in real estate, ING estimates that the Spanish banking sector may need more capital than currently is foreseen.
Credit ratings firm Standard & Poor's took negative rating actions on 16 Spanish banks on Monday, including a raft of downgrades that represent the latest blow for an sector already weakened by a four-year property bust.
This announcement follows the two-notch downgrade of Spain's sovereign rating on Friday from A to BBB+ by S&P.
Banco Santander SA (STD), Europe's second-largest bank by market value, was dropped to A-minus, one notch above the rating of Spain's sovereign debt.
Banco Bilbao Vizcaya Argentaria SA (BBVA), the second-largest bank in Spain, was lowered to triple-B-plus, matching the rating for Spain's sovereign bonds. The outlook for both banks is negative, S&P said.
Banco Sabadell SA (SAB.MC), Spain's sixth-largest bank by market capitalization, was lowered to junk by the rating agency. The bank last week reported a 5% drop in net profit after earmarking EUR293.4 million in provisions to cover loan losses.
New figures from the European Central Bank Monday also showed that Spanish, as well as Italian banks, were once again heavy net buyers of euro-zone government debt in March, stacking up a total EUR44 billion. But the overall volume of loans outstanding to households and companies in those countries fell again, by nearly EUR12 billion, in a sign that recent liquidity injections by the central have yet to trickle down to the real economy.
Spanish banks had taken over EUR230 billion of the EUR1.02 trillion injected by the ECB at its two three-year credit operations around the turn of the year and have since bought nearly EUR59 billion in government bonds, the data showed.
Spain has seen its borrowing costs soaring in recent weeks as investors question the government's ability to put the economy back on track.
The yield on Spain's 10-year government bond was unchanged from Friday's closing levels as investors stayed on the sidelines Monday.
The 10-year benchmark was quoted at 5.85%, in the lower half of last week's 5.73%-6.07% trading range, according to data from Tradeweb.
The cost of insuring Spanish debt against default was slightly lower in trading Monday, as the fall in the sovereign's GDP wasn't as bad as expected. Five-year credit default swaps on Spain were recently 0.03 percentage point tighter at 4.70%.
By David Roman, Dow Jones Newswires; +34 91 395 8127; david.roman@dowjones.com
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- o i forgot rip --
johnny, 13:20:01 04/30/12 Mon
do you think ellix reads your crap???
well do you punk
stop writing crap and check that liver
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- to get a rise out of that crowd. --
johnny, 13:17:27 04/30/12 Mon
do you think anyone reads the shit you post?
me
carmack
wiffo
gurk
bos
i dont want to get a rise out of anybody mr dead liver
you want to be a celebrity rip
not gonna happen
sorry
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- I purchased more than $47,000 in collectible silver coins --
ellix, 13:14:19 04/30/12 Mon
Poor fool-- a quick look at most any Franklin Mint offering shows the hustle:
"Don't miss your opportunity to acquire all 16 coins in The U.S. Presidential Dollar Collection, 24 Karat Gold Edition issued to date by the U.S. Mint. These are the first coins ever struck by the Mint honoring all of our nation's Presidents. Each coin is guaranteed to be in Brilliant Uncirculated condition, --richly layered-- in 24 karat gold and sealed inside a clear, protective capsule with with privately applied hologram Mint Security Seal."
24 karat, richly layered, hologram security seal (like putting an Abloy on a tin shack)
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- oh dear....Spain looks sick --
Gurk, 13:11:05 04/30/12 Mon
Just in.....
"Spain's economy contracted for the second consecutive quarter, the common definition of a recession."
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Spain and Italy are a slow moving train wreck with
massive momentum.
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- U.S. homeownership rate drops to 15-year low in Q1 --
RIP, 13:00:14 04/30/12 Mon
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-homeownership-rate-drops-15-142338307.html;_ylt=AnjCqQiq7Q_QPoF.Tqrln1yiuYdG;_ylu=X3oDMTQ0OGowNG81BG1pdANGaW5hbmNlIEZQIFRvcCBTdG9yeSBSaWdodARwa2cDMGU0NzQyYWEtYzk0Yi0zMWUyLWE3NmYtODEyYzk0Y2IwN2RjBHBvcwMyBHNlYwN0b3Bfc3RvcnkEdmVyAzhkYmRlMWYwLTkyZDAtMTFlMS1iZDE3LTgwZWFmNzI4YzljZg--;_ylg=X3oDMTFvdnRqYzJoBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3
Follow the bouncing bubble.
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- @ "incredible new totem she had installed in the shop" --
Gurk, 12:54:23 04/30/12 Mon
Is it phallic ? I know the Thais are quite into them.
It predates the Buddhist culture. I went to a cave in
Railay way down south and it was full of phallic
sculptures. The Thais don't have a problem with
it. They still pay homage there even though it's
way alien to Buddhist culture...
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- I went to my friend who takes care of my feet, she is a hairdresser and manicure and pedicureist. --
WIFFO, 12:45:21 04/30/12 Mon
I could not help on remarking about the incredible new totem she had installed in the shop. i will have to take a photo of it and post it because words cannot describe it. It is a sacred totem that all the ladies love. It brings goode luck and prosperity. ...Later.
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- Gurk...thanks --
RIP, 12:43:51 04/30/12 Mon
I'm sure it was a popular choice.
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- @ You can see what currency traders do.... --
Gurk, 12:43:20 04/30/12 Mon
in a dull moment which is most of the time...
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- OK Rip... --
Gurk, 12:41:40 04/30/12 Mon
I restored her....
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- The big currency mover today is JPY --
RIP, 12:36:48 04/30/12 Mon
Amazing....but true.
Those fellas are going to be in a world of pain.
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