- lord jim --
mugwump, 04:12:58 11/19/09 Thu
Jim Sinclair’s Commentary
In the second great depression, gold companies went from relatively small to large dividend payouts. The same will happen in the third great depression.
Royal Gold Raises Common Stock Dividend 13% to $0.36 Per Share
November 18, 2009 10:00 AM Eastern Time
DENVER–(BUSINESS WIRE)–Royal Gold, Inc. (NASDAQ:RGLD ) (TSX:RGL), a leading precious metals royalty company, today announced that its Board of Directors increased the Company’s annual dividend for its shares of common stock from $0.32 to $0.36, payable on a quarterly basis of $0.09 per share. Royal Gold has steadily increased its annual dividend since it first issued a $0.05 annual payment for calendar y
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- it takes a while for the import of this to sink in- willie -- mugwump, 04:08:47 11/19/09 Thu
The global bankers must deal with toxic bonds and phony gold bars. Yes, New York City is the financial center of world, but for fraud. Talk circulates that a president from yesteryear with his Goldman Sachs Treasury Secretary might have swapped the entire contents of Fort Knox. So did they not only lease the national treasure of gold, but swapped it first, then leased tungsten gold? Time will tell, as evidence is being accumulated and compiled. The assayers have also been commissioned to assist in authentication of gold bar delivery the world over from the US exchanges. Current estimates among the gold trader community run well past a few hundred thousand 'salted' gold bars, maybe over a million. When the Jackass inquired from a reliable gold trader source as to the timespan for the swaps, the late 1990 decade was the reply for dates on almost the entire false batches. Actually it is a mountainous batch. So the introduction to sophisticated Wall Street methods of currency management during the Decade of Prosperity had a side game running that were profitable indeed to the guys running the USDept Treasury and White House. In an age where the lines between patriotism and treason are blurred, this tungsten episode brings new meaning to the word HEIST.
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- dollar has an up day on its way to zero -- mugwump, 04:04:28 11/19/09 Thu
http://www2.barchart.com/mktcom.asp?code=BSTK
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- Peter Gabriel...What a great song..almost an anthem for -- Nuggets, 03:12:10 11/19/09 Thu
our times...
"My grip is surely slipping
I think I've lost my hold
Yes, I think I've lost my hold
I cannot get insurance anymore
They don't take credit, only gold"
Lyrics
http://www.songlyrics.com/gabriel-peter/blood-of-eden-lyrics/
Videos not bad either..sound is crap though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hkHUM35y4c
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- Judaism ... the mother of all Isms and all Ismites ... that is, variations on goy hating .. -- mozel, 02:37:56 11/19/09 Thu
"The following is a review of Torat ha-Melekh, a “kind of guide for anyone who ponders the question of if and when it is permissible to take the life of a non-Jew”. It was published by Ma’ariv Israel's second biggest paper. It is a must read. I would assume that those American and British corrupted politicians who are happy to take donations from Israeli Tycoons and other ‘Friends of Israel’ better start to understand once and for all what kind of Ideology they are aligning themselves with."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24006.htm
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People are of two minds on Judaic questions, their views chiefly depending on how much serious study they have given the matter. Because everyone who does any serious study of it comes to inescapable conclusions.
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- TSA -- Island-Dweller, 02:31:25 11/19/09 Thu
TSA stands for Terminal Safety (or Security depending on whom you ask) Administration. They are the US security that search everyone before going on board an airplane.
We are in Melbourne for the moment, plan to visit Wagga for the holidays and then, most likely, we'll head to NZ after that.
Thanks again for all the information; I'm so glad to be out of the USA (and I lived in the relatively free climes of Alaska). I could see Sarah Palin's house (and Russia) from my igloo....
cheers, -Ron
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- zapiro -- johnny, 02:16:45 11/19/09 Thu
http://www.myshtetl.co.za/category/site-section/leisure/fun/news/zapiro-goldstone%2C-wall
springbok Jew who is top political cartoonist
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- Gila, I didn't read where you talked about the report -- mercury, 01:36:09 11/19/09 Thu
except about the 'task farce'
your supposition of my inference was taken three derivatives too far.
not sure why you drag politics into it, as if that will clarify anything.
i simply found it interesting that
a) the fruitcake was a DHS consultant
b) that piece of info was not readily available
c) that piece was not posted here previously
whatever else you read into it is through your own lense.
that seque regarding implication begot inference is WAYYY to oblique. few, if any, will hear only a diminished 9th chord from one note.
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- Gila - COMMISSIONED? -- morbius, 01:06:24 11/19/09 Thu
He's eatin' bagels
He's eatin' pizza
He's eatin' chitlins
So what?, and the Empire has GATA have it Quizlings (Who else is going to speak the language?)
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-
well, mercury -- Gila_Bob, 00:55:23 11/19/09 Thu
Friend:
Is what I said about that "Report"
True or Not???????????
YOUR implication was that Oh Blah Blah COMMISSIONED IT
And, By Inference, was a "pal" or "supporter" of Hasan
AND, BY INFERENCE, a cause of the Shootings
It's yer average Mud-Slinging Effort
Must be because of BO's Middle Name
Big Bob
(That kinda Tripe is STRAIGHT off the RepublicRAT Tawking Points
As enunciated HERE & on Fox Nudes every stinkin' Day
And YOU Know It....................)
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- what blinders -- mercury, 00:41:39 11/19/09 Thu
BigBob...
might you be referring to?
I think the discourse here has generally proven occasionally enlightening. Certainly not always, but often enough we keep coming back to this watering hole, even if just to see who drinketh.
Indeed, perhaps just a pre-Thanksgiving fluke, but I have been reading a fair number of COMMENTS on main press articles. And I am, almost, surprised at the number of folks, in unison, beginning to express dismay/shock/outrage.
Sure, the political hacks and handlers try to keep the masses on the blue/red thingy,
but the trick isn't quite working as well as just a few years, or even months, previously.
I give more credit to the common folk population than most here, however.
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- Same ol' Shit, Delta -- Gila_Bob, 00:41:23 11/19/09 Thu
Friend:
Just like this Trailer Park
LOL
Big Bob
(The Market is Treating Me Well, However
Every since I went with Blind Freddie's Cat
As My Phinancial Advisor...........LOL)
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- Mikikis - Irish poem... -- WALIAC, 00:40:33 11/19/09 Thu
(From memory...)
Of all the truths you'll learn in life,
There are two that'll never bend:
Never carve toward yourself,
Or piss into the wind...
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- aww feck .. -- Delta-au, 00:39:29 11/19/09 Thu
screwed again .. unscrupulous csstomers !!!
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- NQM .. -- Delta-au, 00:38:26 11/19/09 Thu
doing QUITE well .. up 20% inna week or two .. nice ..
thanks to the touts @ Vet & Iainmac
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- Ha, gotcha Delta -- Iainmac, 00:38:18 11/19/09 Thu
It wuz Tungsten.....
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- Iainmac .. -- Delta-au, 00:36:51 11/19/09 Thu
lol ..
your's was CONfiscated ..
ya din't pay yer storage fees ..
..
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- gold gold gold .. -- Delta-au, 00:35:56 11/19/09 Thu
it's all over our finance news at present ..
a top nears ?
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- good evening Mr Gila .. -- Delta-au, 00:34:53 11/19/09 Thu
How's the peg?
and we're not tawkin' currencies ..
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- Mercury -- Gila_Bob, 00:28:09 11/19/09 Thu
Friend:
That "Task Farce" was organized by DHS to Pimp THEIR Continuation
No matter WHO won thee Erection
Such noted "Liberals" as ED MEESE JR.
("If we arrest them they are Guilty
Because we never Arrest People who AREN'T Guilty")
Looks like they did the Noah Thingy
And got 2 of Everybody to Endorse
Their CONtinued acce$$ to the Gravy Train
Shit
The Blinders In This Place
Make it jU$t as U$e-f00l as the DHS
Big Bob
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- Island Dweller -- Iainmac (), 00:26:35 11/19/09 Thu
Welcome to the Antipodes! Customs were pretty laid back when I brought my coins in as I think I said - not sure what response I'll get if and when I try and take them out again...
Cheers
sorry - not a clue about safety deposit boxes - I let Delta look after all my glod.
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- "others of shouting anti-semitism in an effort to distract" -- johnny, 00:24:59 11/19/09 Thu
please note Joeb (who seems to pride himself on the
purity of his argumentation) "confuses " anti zionism
with "jew baiting" ..
perhaps rip will make use of this to bring a little
humility into joe's prissy posties.
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- Buddy, can you spare me a lek? By Joe Bageant -- doran, 00:22:59 11/19/09 Thu
People often comment on the intelligence and insight, the humor and sincerity, of the letters Ken and I receive on joebageant.com. And they say that the readers write as if we have known each other all our lives. I respond that yes, we have, but just did not know each other's names. And that many of us have been pretty much invisible and voiceless except to each other. And that, yes, my friends out there are indeed intelligent and clear eyed citizens. The American populace is often underestimated.
The fact is that America's finest minds and souls have no voice in this chilling new corporate state that has evolved. And if we are not allowed a voice, if our monolithic system ignores us, pretends we do not exist, then for all practical purposes we do not exist. Therefore it does not have to offer us political candidates representing our views or change laws to reflect them. Nevertheless, we are out there -- millions of us.
http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2009/11/buddy-can-you.html
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- one wondeers what she'll doo .. -- Delta-au, 00:17:18 11/19/09 Thu
with that cigar ..
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- "Hillary Clinton gushes over 'crush' on British FM -- " -- johnny, 00:15:18 11/19/09 Thu
...
after all he's Jewish
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- rising goods prices does not mean inflation -- Miniminer, 00:15:06 11/19/09 Thu
I can understand that inflation and deflation are changes in the value and supply of money, and that goods price changes are effects.....with credit contracting in a debt based economy, one can conclude that the money supply is also contracting. Here is the definition again:
What is deflation?
The question what is deflation is easy to answer. But, defining the word is different than understanding the threat – because widespread public ignorance of the effects of deflation and the deflationary spiral makes deflation a menacing risk now more than ever.
Define Deflation and Inflation
Webster's says, "Inflation is an increase in the volume of money and credit relative to available goods," and "Deflation is a contraction in the volume of money and credit relative to available goods." To understand inflation and deflation, we must understand money and credit.
Define Money and Credit
Money is a socially accepted medium of exchange, value storage and final payment. A specified amount of that medium also serves as a unit of account.
According to its two financial definitions, credit may be summarized as a right to access money. Credit can be held by the owner of the money, in the form of a warehouse receipt for a money deposit, which today is a checking account at a bank. Credit can also be transferred by the owner or by the owner's custodial institution to a borrower in exchange for a fee or fees – called interest – as specified in a repayment contract called a bond, note, bill or just plain IOU, which is debt. In today's economy, most credit is lent, so people often use the terms "credit" and "debt" interchangeably, as money lent by one entity is simultaneously money borrowed by another.
So we have destruction of debt and an ongoing attempt to create more debt at a faster pace to outrun the destruction via lower interest rates...the question is, "Which will win out"?
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- mixed results on the ASX today .. -- Delta-au, 00:12:42 11/19/09 Thu
All Ords +0.2%
XGD Gold Index +0.9%
Materials +0.3%
Energies -0.2%
Financials +0.8%
Cons Staples -0.7%
Cons Disc -1.0%
ITech -0.8%
Telecomms -0.5%
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- U.S. politician wants American Jews to buy West Bank homes -- doran, 00:10:32 11/19/09 Thu
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1128732.html
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- Who Are You and What Have You Done With the Community Organizer We Elected President? -- doran, 00:06:59 11/19/09 Thu
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24008.htm
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- The Complete Guide to Killing Non-Jews -- doran, 00:02:10 11/19/09 Thu
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24006.htm
Gilad Atzmon From Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilad_Atzmon
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- Island Dweller .. -- Delta-au, 00:00:45 11/19/09 Thu
welcome to our sunny shores in Oz ..
* what is TSA ?
* where are you? If you're nearby, I can store your bullion at no cost ..
* in fact, we'll PAY YOU to store your bullion at our holding company
* please call immediately .. 1300 Tungsten Inc ..
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- more tidbit on Nidal Hassan (fort hood killer) -- mercury (haven't seen this one posted), 23:58:18 11/18/09 Wed
another DHS consultant!
Nidal Hasan, the killer at Fort Hood, was on 0bama's "Homeland Security transition team," the group responsible for moving Homeland Security toward white and conservative groups as being "dangerous."
His name is on page 29 in 0bama's report PDF format.
http://www.gwumc.edu/hspi/old/PTTF_ProceedingsReport_05.19.09.pdf
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- JoeB on The Warning -- mercury, 23:56:44 11/18/09 Wed
do you really think that suggesting friends/family buy gold at this point is the way to go?
I was suggesting 8-10 years ago they buy PMs. Few did. A few hold the rise in gold against me, sort of. Mostly b.c. they bought too much house and are on the precipice.
Many are now asking me – should I buy some gold now?
I tell them, no. It is time to buy the means of production, the means of survival, and ESPECIALLY the means to protect both.
You really think there is that much time left in this cycle?
I envy the optimists and – as always – wish I was wrong more than I am.
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- @ Mikikus -- crazytimes, 23:56:33 11/18/09 Wed
ain't that the truth. Thank GOD I don't drink anymore either. "Oh the Tragedy of it all!" I'm bad enough as it is.
Night all.............
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- Bufford re La Siesta -- mercury, 23:56:03 11/18/09 Wed
Funny!
A good one to add to 1001 Ways of Extracting Revenge
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- FIRST TIME EVER -- mercury, 23:55:28 11/18/09 Wed
That I’ve seen a US firm, at least in print, expressing interest in producing energy from sugar beets. As you may already know, Brazil has been doing such for years.
Of course, given the politics here, the experiment would probably go along the lines of the recent ethanol fiasco.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/environment/story/78705.html
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- Duppy, great report on the Celtics ‘game’ -- mercury, 23:54:30 11/18/09 Wed
For me was listening to cubs games and Harey Carey reporting on the ChiSox circa 75-79 and Cubs on WGN after that. Then I had the good fortune of hearing Jack Buck reporting on KMOX as the Cardinals won a couple penants, and the WS.
I’ve tried since to listen to a game, got close to the feeling with the A’s a few years back…
but that America may be gone for good/worse
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- IslandDweller, interesting bit -- mercury, 23:53:03 11/18/09 Wed
thanks for posting
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- Dying for Crooks: US Troops in Afghanistan -- doran, 23:50:05 11/18/09 Wed
The New York Times reported: “Everything seems to be for sale: public offices, access to government services, even a person’s freedom.”
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/11/18/dying-for-crooks-us-troops-in-afghanistan/
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- It's funny -- Mikikis, 23:49:56 11/18/09 Wed
How many of us here like to piss in the wind.....
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- Our Chief Industry: War -- doran, 23:43:24 11/18/09 Wed
We often hear the complaint that America doesn’t make anything anymore: that is, our economy seems driven not by producing actual things, but utterly intangible creations such as credit default swaps and securitized sub-prime mortgages. Our once-bustling factories are rusted relics. Entire industries have collapsed. Ghost towns have sprung up where cities once thrived, like mushrooms sprouting in a cemetery. Baffled Americans, who – mistaking debt for wealth – thought they lived in the wealthiest country in the world, struggle to define what is happening. Old words like "correction," contraction," and "recession" give way to talk of a second Great Depression, and, in this context, the question "What does America make anymore?" is raised with renewed vigor.
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/11/17/our-chief-industry-war/
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- We've made it to Australia! -- Island-Dweller, 23:40:51 11/18/09 Wed
About 6 months ago, I wrote to this board asking about carrying gold thru customs from the USA to Australia/New Zealand. Ianmac and Aurator (and possibly another person or two) very kindly provided me with lots of information.
Anyway, my wife and I successfully made it to Australia last Sunday! Unfortunately, I had to leave behind one of my best friends and someone many of you know as ne'er-do-well (a long time kitco and voy poster). I can't tell you how much we'll miss you George!
I thought I would pass on my experiences in case there is anyone else thinking of going thru TSA or customs.
We had no problems carrying gold coins thru TSA. In fact, I got into a conversation about gold and confiscation with them. Curiously, I visited the customs agent at LAX and they told me that I didn't need to fill out form FinCEN form 105. What's curious, is that in every conversation with customs prior to this, I was told that I needed to fill this form out. I pressed this guy twice and both times he told me I didn't need this form......so I didn't fill it out.
I'd called Australian customs and was told that I would need receipts that were older than one year. When I got to customs, I told them what I was carrying and the approximate value. The lady went off to talk with someone, asked me if I had receipts and how old they were. I told her they were all older than one year and she said OK, you can go. They didn't look at the receipts or the gold!
Lastly, I went thru Australia security to board a domestic flight. As with TSA, I requested a private screening. They looked at it and made sure it wasn't a weapon and that was that.
We hope to make our way to NZ and at this stage I'm not sure if we'll be securing things here or taking them to NZ.
OK, I have one more question for any Aussies here. We went to the bank to use their safety deposit boxes and much to my surprise they have the craziest system. I'm supposed to go to the store and buy a metal lock box and bring it to them with my contents to be secured and they put it in a vault. Now, I found this situation pretty bizarre. Firstly, someone in the bank has to handle my box thus giving them a clue as to what it contains. Second, all of the boxes are just stored in the vault and anyone who works there could pick locks, etc. Anyway, my question is this: Is there another option? Maybe the bigger banks in large metropolitan areas have real safe deposit boxes where I'll get a key?
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks again for the wealth of information on this board!
Happy trails, -Ron
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- Baltic Dry Index -- Romanov, 23:37:58 11/18/09 Wed
http://investmenttools.com/futures/bdi_baltic_dry_index.htm
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- Wen: China disagrees to so-called G2 -- doran, 23:37:22 11/18/09 Wed
China pursues the independent foreign policy of peace and will not align with any country or country blocks, Wen said.
Global issues should decided by all nations in the world, rather than one or two countries, he added.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-11/18/content_8998039.htm
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- Hillary Clinton gushes over 'crush' on British FM -- doran, 23:33:38 11/18/09 Wed
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Hillary_Clinton_gushes_over_crush_o_11182009.html
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- @ morbius -- crazytimes, 23:33:23 11/18/09 Wed
Thank you. I understand why you may think what you posted. I'm afraid I am correct though. Israel's control of much of the globe is beginning to be called out. They will NOT yield their power one single inch. This is being proven daily in such example of the entire World demanding to stop settlement expansion to no avail.
If I had one wish, it would be that all the World's Jews that do NOT believe Israel speaks for them would stand up and SHOUT as loudly as possible, "YOU Israel do NOT speak for me!" such that every ear on the Globe hears it and remembers that shout............
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- British mischief with a eye to subvert pan arabism -- morbius, 23:29:32 11/18/09 Wed
Yes, of course. I always wondered what was the motivation for British-American backing of Israel (I always knew it wasn't concern for anybody else).
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- Peter Schiff -- oilboiler, 23:29:19 11/18/09 Wed
Good interview on King World News.
He has a way of driving the truth home.
http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2009/11/13_Peter_Schiff.html
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- Ashcroft's bank lent millions to disgraced premier -- doran, 23:17:42 11/18/09 Wed
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/exclusive-ashcrofts-bank-lent-millions-to-disgraced-premier-1823207.html
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- crazytimes - You are obviously not hateful -- morbius, 23:17:07 11/18/09 Wed
Your concern for Bullishonhisself was touching, but I'm afeared you got the disease (has mozel been among your recent Internet partners?). Sure The State of Israel is criminal. So is The State of _______ (fill in the blank). The State is criminal roughly in proportion to its funding. Your preoccupation with Israel seems (to me) a little unhealthy.
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- "New" swine flu causing cytokine storm -- Mikikis, 23:15:58 11/18/09 Wed
This cannot be good.....
"Ukraine Dead Increase to 344 - Sequences Released
Recombinomics Commentary 19:17
November 17, 2009
1,502,345 Influenza/ARI
85,904 Hospitalized
344 Dead
The above tally is from the latest update from the Ukraine Ministry of Health. The 344 dead represents an increase of 16 from yesterday's total, which is similar to recent daily increases (see map). The steady climb in fatal cases highlights the importance of the release of sequences by Mill Hill a WHO regional center in London.
Included in the sequences from 10 isolates were four HA sequences with the receptor binding domain change, D225G, which was found in the one throat and three lung samples. The change was not found in isolates from nasopharyngeal washes, suggesting D225G may lead to high concentrations of H1N1 in patient's lungs. The high concentration of virus leads to a cytokine storm that destroys the lungs in a few days.
The finding of D225G in lung tissues raises concerns rergarding sequencing of isolates from nasopharyngeal swabs. The monitoring of this important genetic change in the receptor binding domain may require sampling of lung tissues or fluids.
The relationship between the negative nasopharyngeal washes and the lung samples would be useful.
Kudos to Mill Hill and WHO for the prompt release of the panel of H1N1 sequences from Ukraine patients."
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11180904/Ukraine_344.html
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- Im a long way from being a deflationista ..... johnny -- Earl, 23:08:10 11/18/09 Wed
OTOH, Crazytimes may not be one either ........ I wuz jest makin' that up.
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- one more post -- crazytimes, 23:07:08 11/18/09 Wed
I have in EVERY post that's critical of Israel called out ZIONISM and ZIONISTS. What I will criticize is a tactic used by Zionists and others of shouting anti-semitism in an effort to distract, obfuscate and re-direct the criticism of Israel.
Those on here that know me for over a decade know that I am NOT a hateful man.
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- otoh -- johnny, 23:05:19 11/18/09 Wed
craze
Im a long way from being a deflationista
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- crazytimes - "It's one of the largest Ironies in the World." -- Mikikis, 23:04:08 11/18/09 Wed
I wrote a piece a few years back called "You learn what you live with." Deals specifically with how people tend to repeat behaviours that were done to them, regardless of how terrible. Groups of people do the same. What the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians mirrors what the the Nazis did to the Jews...but God forbid if you tell that to a Jewish person...
It is also why people who have been sexually abused tend to repeat the behaviour....and people who were physically abused also tend to repeat the behaviour...
We learn and repeat what we experience...few of us make the effort to change and to break these cycles. Easier to be an asshole than a saint, that's the crux of it. Think of being married, or in a serious relationship....always easier to fight it out then it is to make the effort to listen to the other person and work it out. In life it is easier to go to 'the dark side"...at least as far as effort is concerned....
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- btw -- johnny, 23:02:29 11/18/09 Wed
craze
I agree with you completely on zionism .. I see the
entire creation of israel as a phony operation whereunder
a group of central european eurotrash opportunists with
little or no ancestral ties to the holy land grabbed
the chance to seize land farms homes and an economy
from the palestinians and grab new top gomment jobs and
power for themselves. I dont see this as jew baiting
as most of these jerks were not actual jews anyway.
I believe the idea behind Israel's creation was
British mischief with a eye to subvert pan arabism and
cause as much instability in the middle east as possible.
The ussa carries on the work.
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- ahem........ -- Gila_Bob, 22:58:08 11/18/09 Wed
Friends:
Deflationary Shipping Rates
http://www.investmenttools.com/futures/bdi_baltic_dry_index.htm
Deflationary Oil Prices
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$WTIC&p=D&yr=1&mn=0&dy=0&id=p25632154918
Deflationary Copper Price$
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$COPPER&p=D&yr=1&mn=0&dy=0&id=p25632154918
Deflationary Chinese Market$
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SSEC&p=D&yr=1&mn=0&dy=0&id=p25632154918
Bring on the Mish, KD & zer0-hedge P0$tie$
Allah thee mouthed preyer$ of the Self-Annointed
Let not a single Factoid Enter the Debate
Where the strictly held OPINI0N$ RULE THE R00$T
Big Bob
(But that'$ DelU$i0n$ for Ya
Keep$ the riff-raff off of the $treet$
$tuck in their Bunker$
Preying for TEOTVFWAWKI..............LOL)
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- Now wait a moment folks -- crazytimes, 22:51:03 11/18/09 Wed
Let's call crazytimes anti-semitic and therefore his posts are not to be taken seriously?
I am not good at specifics of Economics. No good at all even after reading Kitco for over a decade. But I do see the coming winds of change and have so for most of my life.
What I see building is a tragedy of Biblical Proportions on all accounts and all sides.
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- Nice ta Sea the L0cal Religi0n -- Gila_Bob, 22:49:05 11/18/09 Wed
Friends:
$till has allah it's Adherent$
Bee a shame if Logic Ever Intruded
Bring On The Dirges............LOL
Big Bob
(Sum p0$ter$ hear may Die!!!!
Buttttttttttttttttttttttt
N00ne will be able ta Tell
LOL)
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- @ morbius -- crazytimes, 22:42:29 11/18/09 Wed
based on my posts, I knew that at some point a post such as yours would be written.
I can only tell you that over the years I have begun to connect hundreds of dots. It's lead me to find that there is deception under deception under deception concerning the actions of Israel and its supporters throughout the World, and I differentiate that from Jews. I have come to see Zionism as the flip-side of Nazism. It is Racist to the Core like Nazism. It's one of the largest Ironies in the World.
There is no single issue more pressing in the entire World. Israel's Crimes (in concert with the US but most recently directed by Israel) cannot be undone. To my mind they are some of the most deceptive in the history of Mankind such as 911. They have penetrated many of Western Governments. That Veil of Deception is lifting however as all cycles turn. The Rubicon has been crossed, there is no turning back. How will Israel react to a global awakening of those Crimes? That is a place I don't like to go. It's an area that I find most troubling to even think about. And on the other end of it, just as some of Israel's Motivations very clearly have some aspect of retribution, what happens when/if the tide turns? And on it goes.......
Tragic, Tragic, Tragic.
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- Crazytimes is also...- Earl -- JoeB, 22:38:41 11/18/09 Wed
Ahh, the pieces are starting to all fall in place.
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- morbius -- JoeB -- Earl, 22:27:58 11/18/09 Wed
Worse'n that, Crazytimes is also a rabidly notable ...... gasp ........ deflationista.
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- -- -- Winston, 22:21:32 11/18/09 Wed
65,000 people apply for 2,000 VW jobs in Chattanooga
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=348678
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- Stepping in front of crazytimes' - morbius -- JoeB, 22:10:01 11/18/09 Wed
Has that ever stopped me before? I'm not going to be a conduit for this Jew baiting. This issue was about a dumb question and that's all I plan to address.
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- JoeB - Stepping in front of crazytimes' blooming anti-semitism -- morbius, 21:55:55 11/18/09 Wed
could be dangerous for your health.
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- Israel continues to seed its own destruction -- crazytimes, 21:53:32 11/18/09 Wed
The hubris continues. Obama asked ONE thing of Israel, to stop expanding settlements and Israel has said essentially, "F*ck Y*u"
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House said on Tuesday that it was "dismayed" over Israeli approval to expand the Gilo settlement in Jerusalem and sharply criticized the ongoing evictions and demolition of Palestinian homes.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE5AG50920091117
The United Nations, the United States and the European Union have all called on Israel to stop the illegal eviction of Palestinians and the demolition of their homes.
Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary-general, urged Israel to end its "provocative actions" in East Jerusalem, while calling for it to freeze all settlement activity in the occupied West Bank.
Despite that, the sight of Palestinians in East Jerusalem being forced out of their homes has become an all too familiar scene.
with video:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24001.htm
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- miniminer silver............looks like a major head/body fake -- AZAU, 21:31:32 11/18/09 Wed
before a slam-dunk.
heh,heh.
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- jeffrey becker combines four nano mining companies together and gets -- mugwump, 21:10:13 11/18/09 Wed
one micromining company- splendid!!
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Union-Gold-Golden-Harker-cnw-3483234965.html?x=0&.v=1
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- Where's JoeB? -- crazytimes -- JoeB, 21:08:17 11/18/09 Wed
Non Sequitur.
Has nothing to do with what we were specifically talking about when it came to Wolf. He asked a cliched question that all empty-headed reporters ask of criminal lawyers, especially in murder cases. Wolf's not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, did you see his SNL like appearance on Jeopardy? The guy's a dolt, it was embarrassing.
Personally, I have little use for corporate media and rarely watch any of the network or cable news station. I see them most while at the gym every morning (mounted flatscreen TVs), but I can't hear a word of what they say. I listen to my MP3 player and you must plug into receivers to hear the audio feed.
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- 20 yr silver -- Miniminer, 21:04:02 11/18/09 Wed
look at the launch, kool
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- Expanding jewish settlements.......refugees that have gutted -- AZAU, 21:02:50 11/18/09 Wed
the world financial system.
Think: Little Big Horn.
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- Raise the Debt Ceiling Now! $12.04 Trillion and counting, -- AZAU, 21:00:32 11/18/09 Wed
up to $12.104T Ceiling. Two weeks left @4B per day.
Poor rip, perhaps he will kill a buck tomorrow, and thereby increase his karmic destiny.
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- One thing I'll give Sarah Palin -- crazytimes, 20:58:30 11/18/09 Wed
She knows exactly who to suck up to and do it in spades. She's no dummy at all in that regard even if she didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was.
Palin: "I disagree with the Obama administration on that. I believe that the Jewish settlements should be allowed to be expanded upon, because that population of Israel is, is going to grow. More and more Jewish people will be flocking to Israel in the days and weeks and months ahead. And I don't think that the Obama administration has any right to tell Israel that the Jewish settlements cannot expand."
Walters: "Even if its Palestinian areas?"
Palin: "I believe that the Jewish settlements should be allowed to expand."
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-27692-LA-County-Libertarian-Examiner~y2009m11d18-Palin-continues-standard-establishment-line-on-Israeli-policy
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- What mind are you using. Surely not mine. -- Jasper, 20:55:46 11/18/09 Wed
Goodnight Butterball and all the rest of the Jim Willie fans.
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- Oh my -- RIP, 20:54:04 11/18/09 Wed
He has gone from defending Willie....to quoting Sinclair and his tomatoes.
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- Well...there's no accounting for taste -- RIP, 20:52:11 11/18/09 Wed
Nadler writes full length articles using facts and logic.
Does that make him right?
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- Delinquent Mortgages and, Foreclosures Soared in September -- Jasper, 20:51:53 11/18/09 Wed
From Sinclair's site
Today one out of every eight American homeowners with a mortgage (12.5 percent) is either in foreclosure or delinquent in their payments.
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- AUDIT THE FED! NOT CODDLE THE FED! -- Nuclearson, 20:49:19 11/18/09 Wed
November 18, 2009
Dear C4L Member,
A few weeks ago, we sent out an alert that Representative Mel Watt was attempting to water down H.R. 1207 in the House Financial Services Committee.
The latest reports we have received have informed us that a vote on the Watt amendment could come tomorrow!
There’s still time for us to stop this attack on Audit the Fed! Click here to get a full list of Financial Services Committee members, along with their contact information.
Financial Services leadership seems determined to include Audit the Fed as part of a regulatory reform package instead of passing it as a standalone bill.
While C4L will still do everything in its power to fight for a standalone vote on Audit the Fed on the House floor, it is critical we challenge Watt's amendment in Committee.
It will become much easier for our representatives to claim they still support Audit the Fed on the House floor if the Watt version passes, when, in reality, Representative Watt's amendment puts restrictions on Government Accountability Office audits of the Fed.
For example, Watt's amendment prevents the GAO from auditing or reviewing decisions to authorize, modify, extend, or terminate loans or liquidity facilities.
Congressman Paul will offer an amendment in Committee restoring an audit of the Fed’s entire $2 trillion balance sheet, but we have received word that some of the Democrat members may be waffling on their support for his amendment.
Help us turn up the pressure on these members! Below is the list of Democrats on the committee who have cosponsored H.R. 1207. Please call them and urge them to vote "Yes" on Ron Paul's amendment. Click on their names to get their web contact information.
1. Rep. John Adler, NJ (202) 225-4765
2. Rep. Travis Childers, MS (202) 225-4306
3. Rep. Steve Driehaus, OH (202) 225-2216
4. Rep. Alan Grayson, FL (202) 225-2176
5. Rep. Rubén Hinojosa, TX (202) 225-2531
6. Rep. Suzanne Kosmas, FL Toll Free: 1-877-956-7627
7. Rep. Dan Maffei, NY (202) 225-3701
8. Rep. Brad Miller, NC (202) 225-3032
9. Rep. Walt Minnick, ID (202) 225-6611
10. Rep. Ed Perlmutter, CO (202)-225-2645
11. Rep. David Scott, GA (202) 225-2939
12. Rep. Brad Sherman, CA (202) 225-5911
13. Rep. Jackie Speier, CA (202) 225-3531
When contacting these members, remember that up to this point, they have been allies on this issue. A civil yet firm tone should be kept during these calls. They should be thanked for their cosponsorship, told that Mel Watt's changes to the bill are unacceptable, and urged to hold the line and honor their promise to support transparency at the Fed by voting "Yes" on Ron Paul's amendment.
And don’t forget to click here to get a full list of Financial Services Committee members.
For more information on the Watt amendment, check out this article by The Huffington Post's Ryan Grim.
We are continuing our work to achieve a standalone vote on H.R. 1207 on the House floor, but we must first stop the Watt amendment in the Financial Services Committee.
Make sure the Financial Services Committee members hear from you as soon as their offices open Thursday morning!
A vote could come any time tomorrow. Call, email, and fax the Financial Services Committee members to vote “Yes” on Congressman Ron Paul’s amendment.
In Liberty,
John Tate
President
P.S. Click here to get a full list of Financial Services Committee members. Urge them to reject the Watt language and to vote for Congressman Paul's amendment!
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- Karma is for loosers -- RIP, 20:48:47 11/18/09 Wed
...unless one makes it happen.
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- @ WOW ... Sobering ... -- MoreGold, 19:11:06 11/18/09 Wed -- Miniminer, 20:48:30 11/18/09 Wed
I wonder how much 'moregold' the French are willing to unload?
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- Das okay Rip if you don't care for JW's point of view -- Jasper, 20:47:50 11/18/09 Wed
Of course when you get talented and write full length articles using facts and logic I will read you too!
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- Rip.......what if GS is manipulating gold higher........ -- AZAU, 20:45:39 11/18/09 Wed
Matters not to me. They are criminally insane and will not stop until the collapse takes them out. Karma, and all that.
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- Where's JoeB? -- crazytimes, 20:30:20 11/18/09 Wed
Joe, I don't want to get into a "discussion" but you're dead wrong about Wolf Blitzer. He's one of the top Zionist Mouthpieces even if his personality and voice is a wet noodle......Here's another
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/11/17/iran/index.html
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- And if you think I am unreasonably mean to Willie...here is his question -- RIP, 20:24:31 11/18/09 Wed
"Where are the Deflation Knuckleheads who tended to dominate the web journals last spring and summer, in incredible dense vapid clueless fashion???"
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- Willie ain't the brightest bulb around. -- RIP, 19:58:55 11/18/09 Wed
....but he sure has his following here.
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- Jim Willie -- siempre33, 19:56:49 11/18/09 Wed
previously posted by mugwump....
The Chinese, according to word from connected sources, intend to push the gold price and the silver price relentless upward without explosive parabolic moves and without painful huge selloff corrections.
http://www.kitco.com/ind/willie/nov182009.html
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- Leave no detainee abuse paper trail, diplomat told -- RIP, 19:54:48 11/18/09 Wed
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2238164
Scum.
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- does anybody know how much money we are talking about -- BUFFORD, 19:50:22 11/18/09 Wed
Gartman mentioned in his NL today:
"huge option positon taken by "someone" in spot gold at the $1200 strike price that expires in a week and one half"
R they getting nervous?
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- Yer right....mozel -- RIP, 19:43:49 11/18/09 Wed
Goldman would never go rogue....like Sarah.
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- @ radio -- RIP, 19:36:26 11/18/09 Wed
WLW, KMOX, WJR....these were my after dark stations for a kid who couldn't get enough baseball.
Harwell was my fave.
Old man Buck was next.
The 'old lefty heading for home'....was OK
Radio was quite OK when there was nothing else.
And even this Canuck could pick up Most and the Celtics.
Except I hated them.
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- @What if GS finally got nailed for trying to manipulate gold higher? -- RIP -- mozel, 19:33:17 11/18/09 Wed
Who believes GS does these things alone and on its own ? Has it no friends ?
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- Mugwump...fiddlin' an'diddling -- duppy, 19:22:45 11/18/09 Wed
I use to lay under the covers listening to Johnny Most....started in going to Celtics games in the sixties, slept out on Causeway for 48 hours annualy to buy obstructed view seats for all the playoffs during the 80's....i want to a game last week at the NEW Garden....Red and Johnny are rollin'....cheerleaders, flying lephrecons....overwhelming graphics and hugh above court TVs....it was terrible. The waiting around for tv commercials to end...$7.25 a bud...the canned cheers...bad refs...the only moment, when it felt like the old Boston Garden was when the croud, unpropted chanted, "bullshit" after ANOTHER bad call. Only cause the 15yo loves going. Havlicek stole the ball~!!~!!
I catch all the games on the DVR and skip all except when the clock is moving.
mo' bread and circus.
I just want to watch the game.
dUp
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- Skinee...if U would have waited 6 months U could -- BUFFORD (), 19:07:54 11/18/09 Wed
have gotten this for free under Obammacare..even Canadians can get these free down here under O'Quincycare
Skineez Hondo sex change sure went bad
http://www.fasterupload.com/viewer.php?file=jrdgwpugee15u8s6i62v.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8540/skineezsexchange.jpg
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- @ WOW ... Sobering ... -- MoreGold, 19:11:06 11/18/09 Wed
French bank tells clients how to prepare for 'global collapse'
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
The Telegraph, London
Wednesday, November 18, 2009
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/6599281/Societe-Generale-te...
Societe Generale has advised clients to be ready for a possible "global economic collapse" over the next two years, mapping a strategy of defensive investments to avoid wealth destruction.
In a report entitled "Worst-Case Debt Scenario," the bank's asset team said state rescue packages over the last year have merely transferred private liabilities onto sagging sovereign shoulders, creating a fresh set of problems.
Overall debt is still far too high in almost all rich economies as a share of GDP (350 percent in the US), whether public or private. It must be reduced by the hard slog of "deleveraging." for years.
"As yet, nobody can say with any certainty whether we have in fact escaped the prospect of a global economic collapse," said the 68-page report, headed by asset chief Daniel Fermon. It is an exploration of the dangers, not a forecast.
Under the French bank's "Bear Case" scenario, the dollar would slide further and global equities would retest the March lows. Property prices would tumble again. Oil would fall back to $50 in 2010.
Governments have already shot their fiscal bolts. Even without fresh spending, public debt would explode within two years to 105 percent of GDP in the UK, 125 percent in the US and the eurozone, and 270 percent in Japan. Worldwide state debt would reach $45 trillion, up 2 1/2 times in a decade.
(UK figures look low because debt started from a low base. Mr Ferman said the UK would converge with Europe at 130 percent of GDP by 2015 under the bear case).
The underlying debt burden is greater than it was after the Second World War, when nominal levels looked similar. Aging populations will make it harder to erode debt through growth. "High public debt looks entirely unsustainable in the long run. We have almost reached a point of no return for government debt," the report said.
Inflating debt away might be seen by some governments as a lesser of evils.
If so, gold would go "up, and up, and up" as the only safe haven from fiat paper money. Private debt is also crippling. Even if the US savings rate stabilises at 7 percent and all of it is used to pay down debt, it will still take nine years for households to reduce debt/income ratios to the safe levels of the 1980s.
The bank said the current crisis displays "compelling similarities" with Japan during its Lost Decade (or two), with a big difference: Japan was able to stay afloat by exporting into a robust global economy and by letting the yen fall. It is not possible for half the world to pursue this strategy at the same time.
SocGen advises bears to sell the dollar and to "short" cyclical equities such as technology, auto, and travel to avoid being caught in the "inherent deflationary spiral." Emerging markets would not be spared. Paradoxically, they are more leveraged to the US growth than Wall Street itself. Farm commodities would hold up well, led by sugar.
Mr Fermon said junk bonds would lose 31 percent of their value in 2010 alone. However, sovereign bonds would "generate turbo-charged returns" mimicking the secular slide in yields seen in Japan as the slump ground on. At one point Japan's 10-year yield dropped to 0.40 percent. The Fed would hold down yields by purchasing more bonds. The European Central Bank would do less, for political reasons.
SocGen's case for buying sovereign bonds is controversial. A number of funds doubt whether the Japan scenario will be repeated, not least because Tokyo itself may be on the cusp of a debt compound crisis.
Mr Fermon said his report had electrified clients on both sides of the Atlantic. "Everybody wants to know what the impact will be. A lot of hedge funds and bankers are worried," he said.
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- Are you a recently married Texan? -- RIP, 19:10:13 11/18/09 Wed
Maybe not.
"This state or a political subdivision of this state may not create or recognize any legal status identical or similar to marriage."
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/100/story/79112.html?storylink=omni_popular
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- Influenza and the Financial Services Industry: A Case Study of the 1918 Spanish Flu -- doran, 19:09:27 11/18/09 Wed
Certain industries were hit especially hard, notably places of amusement and life insurance companies. Pennsylvania, along with most other states, issued the mandatory closings of schools, churches, theatres, and places of public assemblage toward the end of the year in 1918. In his book, America's Forgotten Pandemic, Alfred Crosby estimates that the closing of Philadelphia theatres, motion picture houses, hotels, and saloons cost the city $2.35 million. Crosby also notes that influenza caused "37 out of 48 life insurance companies in the United States to omit or at least reduce their dividends. The number of death claims made against the Equitable Life Insurance Society of the United States in the week of October 30, 1918, was 745 percent higher than the number made in the equivalent week of 1917."10
http://www.philadelphiafed.org/bank-resources/publications/src-insights/2006/fourth-quarter/q4si3_06.cfm
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- @ SACKS Finally Taking Heat Manip Check ... -- MoreGold, 19:00:40 11/18/09 Wed
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- Black and white thinking doesn't work in a gray world. -- RIP, 18:54:58 11/18/09 Wed
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- What if GS finally got nailed for trying to manipulate gold higher? -- RIP, 18:51:56 11/18/09 Wed
Wild speculation....I think.
But nothing is beyond the realm of possibility.
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- AZAU....what if the crooks are now buying gold? -- RIP, 18:46:33 11/18/09 Wed
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- "Gold is getting frothy" ........you haven't seen anything yet. -- AZAU, 18:40:39 11/18/09 Wed
Need to bring to justice all the crooks that destroyed the world financial system.
We know who they are.
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- jefferson would be laughed from this forum ??? -- skys39 -- Pyrite, 18:37:31 11/18/09 Wed
http://popomaticjeff.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/george_jefferson1.jpg
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- SocGen and many others such as Wells Fargo preparing for the Sh*tstorm -- AZAU, 18:37:23 11/18/09 Wed
that will unleash when this corrupt pump and dump of the SM is done. Too Little, too Late.
________________________________________________
Wells Fargo agrees to buy back $1.4B in securities
Wells Fargo units agree to buy back $1.4B in auction-rate securities to settle Calif. case
* On 5:01 pm EST, Wednesday November 18, 2009
California Attorney General Jerry Brown sued the San Francisco-based bank last year and the North American Securities Administrators Association launched an inquiry of the bank's subsidiaries over sales of so-called auction-rate securities. The investments resemble corporate debt, except that the rate of interest they pay is frequently reset at auctions.
A number of companies, charities and individual investors were told the securities were as safe as cash. But the $330 billion market collapsed in February 2008, and investors' accounts were frozen.
Wells Fargo said Wednesday it agreed to buy back the securities from customers nationwide. The company also agreed to pay a $1.9 million fine while not admitting any wrongdoing.
_______________________________-
The damage is irreparable
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- @ GLD & SLF Etf's Both Added More ... -- MoreGold, 18:33:51 11/18/09 Wed
Tonnage Today...
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- Ain't this gold market sweet? -- RIP, 18:32:28 11/18/09 Wed
I love being manipulated higher every day.
One could get used to it.
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- Manulife Financial will sell $2.5 billion in stock -- RIP, 18:29:58 11/18/09 Wed
A "fortress level of capital".
Well...when you are up to yer neck in derivative guarantees...I guess you need to build a wall.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/manulife-sells-25-billion-of-stock/article1368748/
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- SocGen: it's gonna be more fun than when the hogs ate little brother -- 2bro2b, 18:09:29 11/18/09 Wed
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/6599281/Societe-Generale-tells-clients-how-to-prepare-for-global-collapse.html
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- Jumpin' at Shadows -- WileE, 18:07:31 11/18/09 Wed
peter lead, danny rhythm.
skip 'em if you don't like guitar music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB6zg05CxYg
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- back to 2 leads -- WileE, 17:50:45 11/18/09 Wed
peter and danny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ8AcEYTEFY
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- US$ Seasonals .. -- Delta-au, 17:44:13 11/18/09 Wed
43 years worth of data ..
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/SqbX9m9pISI/AAAAAAAAJxQ/7NsAOt-TZdA/s1600-h/usdseasonal090609.jpg
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- uh-oh. Danny's broken a string. -- WileE, 17:42:46 11/18/09 Wed
so Peter takes a solo. World Keeps Turning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivS5wjwGbn8
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- -- -- Winston, 17:41:56 11/18/09 Wed
very interesting - chart shows the rhythm of $VIX and suggests the next top will be Dec. 2....of course now $VIX up = $USD up. See 2nd chart down...http://astrocycle.net/ShortTerm.php
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- a little more peter green, often copied -- WileE, 17:33:27 11/18/09 Wed
live black magic woman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-ELydnDgKY
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- Beverage Company Drilling For Whiskey In Antarctica's Ice -- RIP, 17:29:49 11/18/09 Wed
Those crazy New Zealanders.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/17/beverage-company-drilling_n_360540.html
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- Scientology is still rippling thru the pollie pool .. -- Delta-au (), 17:27:36 11/18/09 Wed
press clippings ..
FORMER members of the Church of Scientology have made explosive allegations about forced abortions, child abuse and financial extortion, prompting calls for a parliamentary inquiry.
Letters tabled by independent senator Nick Xenophon reveal claims of vulnerable people preyed on by a coercive and ruthless organisation that punished and shamed dissenters by physical incarceration, withholding food or intimidation.
Under the protection of parliamentary privilege, Senator Xenophon declared the church a ''criminal organisation''.
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said they were ''grave allegations'' and left open the prospect of backing a Senate inquiry into the church and its tax breaks. ''Many people in Australia have real concerns about Scientology,'' he said.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/former-scientologists-allege-abuse-intimidation-20091118-imkn.html
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- hows come i got kicked from kitco >> ??? -- skys39, 17:26:41 11/18/09 Wed
u figure it
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- .....on to stocks... -- skys39 (), 17:17:53 11/18/09 Wed
what have i to say?
other than buy on the low daze
sell on the high
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stick with me
i show u knought as to my propensity of accumulation
i play the beggar
u play the rich man
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F444CELomo
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- John Law gang still at work -- MichaelH, 17:18:56 11/18/09 Wed
http://mshistory.k12.ms.us/articles/70/john-law-and-the-mississippi-bubble-1718-1720
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- Had enough fun for one day -- Sherlock, 17:15:11 11/18/09 Wed
I'm out of here...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j7wV5oBqBQ&feature=related
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- But in front of Opt-Ex - who knows what we do. -- MichaelH, 17:12:39 11/18/09 Wed
Reach highs on option expiration for every option market - this one time out of perhaps 300 option cycles.
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- jefferson would be laughed from this forum ??? -- skys39, 17:12:01 11/18/09 Wed
a sad state of affairs
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- one more, -- WileE, 17:09:49 11/18/09 Wed
this time FM's Danny Kirwan. Sunny Side of Heaven:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Nqtwy9qXI
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- it is not unreasonable to question your gov -- skys39 (), 17:08:09 11/18/09 Wed
despite what others might think
http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/
it is obligation according the founders
beware those that would descent such
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- UNG fans.. -- Glyndwr, 17:08:54 11/18/09 Wed
See second post down. http://www.slopeofhope.com/?gclid=CIin576N2Y0CFSO9YAodUGrKcw
(Yeah - I keep waiting too).
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- it's like a cartoon -- Miniminer, 17:05:37 11/18/09 Wed
By law, federal deposit insurance is backed by "the full faith and credit of the United States government." It means that the financial resources of the U.S. government protect federally insured depositors. "In short," said Chairman Bair, "we cannot run out of money."
just print as needed
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- Bonds, stocks move together to cheer low-inflation recovery -- Sherlock, 17:05:28 11/18/09 Wed
By Nick Godt, MarketWatch
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Since late October, the prices of U.S. stocks and government bonds have been rising together, signaling for now at least that investors remain in the sweet spot: enjoying an environment in which interest rates are low and inflationary prospects are tame....http://www.marketwatch.com/story/stocks-and-bonds-rise-together-as-one-2009-11-18
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- Glyndwr/ FDIC "No safer place for your money: -- Sherlock, -- Glyndwr, 17:00:58 11/18/09 Wed
Thanks - Now their reserves are gone, I guess we'll have no further reports.
Now just a 'borrow as needed' message..
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- gold up, gold stocks down. -- WileE, 16:57:17 11/18/09 Wed
oh, well (peter green):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE4HGlmtOcg
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- Glyndwr/ FDIC "No safer place for your money: -- Sherlock, 16:54:58 11/18/09 Wed
Relax... All is well ...Nothing to see here...http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/press/2009/pr09210.html
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- ok miro...we settle it there then -- skys39 (), 16:47:54 11/18/09 Wed
have a great day!
http://www.axisglobe.com/article.asp?article=1253
you know i drink JB right??
then...what color is my hair and what is my mothers maiden name...
lol! just kidding kommarde
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- BBML -- Mikikis, 16:53:08 11/18/09 Wed
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- RIP -- Mikikis, 16:50:13 11/18/09 Wed
USDX lost almost 1/2 a point.....gold went way up....then it bounced a bit and gold came back down....
The bet:
"Sportsman's bet: If the dollar doesn't crash tomorrow....if it even just barely holds water...that the POG will be significantly lower than it is today. You game?"
I'd say that because the USDX did fall significantly at the open that the bet is null....but if we had to choose a winner then you definitely win because gold went up and did not fall.
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- I seem to recall that FDIC -- Glyndwr, 16:49:39 11/18/09 Wed
ran out of cash about 6 weeks ago, yet they keep plugging on.. Anyone enlighten me on this?
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- Mikikis....who won our bet? -- RIP, 16:44:58 11/18/09 Wed
You can call it.
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- miro.. you are kidding... right? -- skys39 -- Miro, 16:44:42 11/18/09 Wed
yes bud, you are so far out of touch that I won't give you a hard time. Old news, consultant, not "running it" that was 5 years ago. Now go and give me a proof that he is still consultant to DHS, never mind running it, I challenge you, as I know he is not!
I know a little about DHS, don't like it but I know a bit about it ;-)
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- Sherlock - retarded policeman -- Mikikis, 16:42:24 11/18/09 Wed
Funny stuff. Here's a pic about the same.....
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- @ miro.. you are kidding... right? -- skys39 (), 16:33:46 11/18/09 Wed
http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/kgb_chief_home_at_homeland_security.htm
http://www.newswithviews.com/iserbyt/iserbyt7.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/world/russia/kgb-su0515.htm
http://www.rense.com/general69/iron.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2004/061204wolfhired.htm
http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/pages/articles/kgb_spies.html
http://www.essex1.com/people/chuckbri/lib_issues.html
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- skys39/ The Stasi -- Sherlock, 16:33:36 11/18/09 Wed
I agree. What's happened and is happening is devastatingly criminal. Have you seen this film? If not I recommend it.... Das Leben der Anderen - The Lives of Others, It dramatizes the true cost that citizens of the German Democratic Republic had to pay for living in their communist dictatorship. We learn how much time and effort the Stasi (Ministerium für Staatssicherheit, "secret police") spent on spying on East German citizens — and how this impacted both the targets and the spies....http://german.about.com/od/dvdvideo/fr/dasleben.htm
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- smite... or be smitten -- skys39, 16:31:41 11/18/09 Wed
http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/usa/images-2/executioner.jpg
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- skys9 @homeland security is entirely set up by ex KGB commie agents -- Miro, 16:31:09 11/18/09 Wed
Oh my God, I don't like DHS at all but this notion of "it's a set up by ex KGB commie agents" makes me laugh so hard that I have to call 911 as I am choking and running out of breath
How do you folks come with this nonsense? Too much Jim Beam drinking? :)
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- Gulag -- skys39, 16:28:00 11/18/09 Wed
see you here kommrades ?
http://ladylibertas.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/montana_de_cadaveres_en_un_gulag_sovietico.jpg
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://gulaghistory.org/nps/onlineexhibit/stalin/women-src/images/nightsearch_detail.jpg&imgrefurl=http://gulaghistory.org/nps/onlineexhibit/stalin/women.php&usg=__M-6yK3Gtzebl7G-lGBorehW-AHs=&h=623&w=600&sz=136&hl=en&start=31&um=1&tbnid=sMA31T58ejjCUM:&tbnh=136&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgulag%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D20%26um%3D1
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- brown shirts -- skys39, 16:23:59 11/18/09 Wed
be the envy of your neighbors
http://www.armynavyshop.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/brownbdu.jpg
http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dbrown%2Bshirts%26b%3D21%26ni%3D20%26ei%3DUTF-8%26pstart%3D1%26fr%3Dytff1-sunm%26fr2%3Dtab-web&w=202&h=480&imgurl=www.armynavyshop.com%2FMerchant2%2Fgraphics%2F00000001%2Fbrownbdu.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.armynavyshop.com%2Fprods%2Frc5981.html&size=12k&name=brownbdu+jpg&p=brown+shirts&oid=4338fb09a9aea1a6&fr2=tab-web&no=39&tt=53756&b=21&ni=20&sigr=11dt5car3&sigi=11tnlniob&sigb=13iag7c30
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- the stasi -- skys39, 16:20:30 11/18/09 Wed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi
coming to a neighborhood in which you reside
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- Calling for Blankfein's Resignation -- Sherlock, 16:17:43 11/18/09 Wed
CNBC's Charlie Gasparino is calling for Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein's resignation...http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1335288159&play=1
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- did you know... -- skys39, 16:17:19 11/18/09 Wed
homeland security is entirely set up by ex KGB commie agents
and whats up with the wording... czar this, and czar that... ?? ? ?
of all things
now you know
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- the theft of amerika is so massive by the fascists -- skys39, 16:09:19 11/18/09 Wed
i do not have enough keys on my keyboard to emphasize my views of the proportion of this debacle.
aghast.. !
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- Well, the SM looks like it will be up in the morning -- APOLLO, 16:07:11 11/18/09 Wed
& provided enough room for the USD to go down over-night. But in front of Opt-Ex - who knows what we do.
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- Gold ETF's Lustrous 5th Anniversary -- Sherlock, 16:05:42 11/18/09 Wed
By: Robert Hum
Markets Producer
Gold continues to show off its luster - hovering at record high prices nearing $1,150 an ounce today.
At the same time, investor appetite for gold only continues to rise. But thanks to an exchange-traded fund (ETF) breakthrough five years ago today, access to commodity investing has never been easier for individual investors....http://www.cnbc.com/id/34018547
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- @what a dolt!! -- mugwump, 15:36:27 11/18/09 Wed -- skys39, 16:00:40 11/18/09 Wed
several million degress at earths centre?
lol !
and this is from the guy "that created the internet's" ? ?
..more lol !
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- HUI down POG up -- lady_bug, 15:53:34 11/18/09 Wed
what you guys think about that? s'been doint that , and selling off next day
hmmm, me not like that
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- TVIPF +15.98% -- Romanov, 15:53:00 11/18/09 Wed
TVI Pacific
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- the boys keep pumpin the stock market -- skys39, 15:52:15 11/18/09 Wed
pride comes before the crash
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- Housing Slump May Worsen Next Year, Not Get Better -- Sherlock, 15:47:33 11/18/09 Wed
By: Albert Bozzo
Senior Features Editor
If you already took advantage of the government’s tax credit for first-time homebuyers—or are planning to do it anytime soon—you’ll probably agree with this prediction: Sales of existing homes will peak in the final quarter of 2009, then begin a year-long slide, which is likely to be a sharp one, according to some estimates...http://www.cnbc.com/id/34018204
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- RGLD -- lady_bug, 15:40:54 11/18/09 Wed
Jim Sinclair’s Commentary
In the second great depression, gold companies went from relatively small to large dividend payouts. The same will happen in the third great depression.
Royal Gold Raises Common Stock Dividend 13% to $0.36 Per Share
November 18, 2009 10:00 AM Eastern Time
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- HL -- lady_bug, 15:37:08 11/18/09 Wed
are the shorters done< turning around?
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- al gore on the earth's temperature- what a dolt!! -- mugwump, 15:36:27 11/18/09 Wed
http://investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=2234&mn=237810&pt=msg&mid=8196999
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- SIX percent on the ten year? -- Pyrite, 15:33:15 11/18/09 Wed
at about the 5:40 mark
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1334910740&play=1
Now it seems ta me that the folks thinking TIP is good will get a surprise, cuz not only will they keep lying about inflation, but 6% would bring a lotta things to a rapid halt.
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- Calvf +9.52% -- Romanov, 15:33:12 11/18/09 Wed
on medium volume.
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- The Jewish Gift To America -- mozel, 15:30:14 11/18/09 Wed
"Viewed from the perspective of the long-term well-being of the whole economy, the drastic expansion of the U.S. financial system as a percentage of total GDP in the last 20 years has been a drain on the health and cost structure of the balance of the real economy. To illustrate this point, in 1965 the financial sector of the economy took up 3% of the GDP pie. The 1960s were probably the high water mark (or one of them) of America’s capitalism. They clearly had adequate financial tools. Innovation could obviously have occurred continuously in all aspects of finance, without necessarily moving its share of the economy materially over 3%. Yet by 2007 the share had risen to 7.5% of GDP!
The financial world was reaching into the GDP pie and taking an unnecessary extra 4%. Every year! This extra rent is enough to lower the savings and investment potential of the rest of the economy. And it shows. As mentioned earlier, the growth rate of the GDP had been 3.5% a year for a hundred years. It had proven to be remarkably robust. Even the Great Depression bounced off it, and soon GDP growth was back on the original trend as if the Depression had never occurred. But after 1965, the growth of the non-financial slice, formerly 3.4%, slowed to 3.2%. After 1982 it dropped to 3.1% and after 2000 fell to well under 3%, all measured to the end of 2007, before the recent troubles. These are big declines. It is as if a runner has a growing and already heavy blood sucker on him that is, not surprisingly, slowing him down."
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/JGLetter_ALL_3Q09.pdf
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- PM stocks at it again PEE YEW ! -- Sherlock, 15:24:55 11/18/09 Wed
Just when you think things are changing, they fall right back into their old ways... GLD+0.14% ___GDX -1.24%
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- obama at great wall- man, it's cold!! -- mugwump, 15:24:48 11/18/09 Wed
http://investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=2234&mn=237799&pt=msg&mid=8196843
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- DROOY -- forthecraic, 15:23:26 11/18/09 Wed
Egad Leroi, Lookat her go! What a POS. Look's like a quad-triple double down here to catch that 10% on the open. I am down big time on this one as I have held it forever. Good thing about that reverse split is that it does not look to bad. Semi-mental, value longing for the good ole days of utter stupidity and irrationality.
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- Tungsten -- Sherlock, 15:20:10 11/18/09 Wed
Its density, similar to that of gold, allows tungsten to be used in jewelry as an alternative to gold or platinum. Its hardness makes it ideal for rings that will resist scratching, are hypoallergenic, and will not need polishing, which is especially useful in designs with a brushed finish....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsten
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- A croupier is nothing more or less than a broker for the utopian instruments of fast trade. -- mozel, 15:15:29 11/18/09 Wed
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- same set -- WileE, 15:15:05 11/18/09 Wed
"Ain't Superstitious" a mere 41 years later...time flies...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3K2jwzpc0U
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- Mikikis/ Arkansas Police Use Taser on 10-Year-Old Girl -- Sherlock, 15:07:44 11/18/09 Wed
What is it with some of these cops ? Are they retarded ?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlUVGf8B2yc
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- Gambling is nothing more or less than fast trading in abstraction. -- mozel, 15:07:43 11/18/09 Wed
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- what's left for the fed- willie -- mugwump, 14:52:48 11/18/09 Wed
In time, the only friend of the USDept Treasury to finance its steady stream of Trillion$ in debt will be the Printing Pre$$. Without the printed money to pull off the auctions, they would be utter loud failures. Without the USDollar Swap Facility, foreign central banks would not have funds to use in Treasury auctions. Without the funds from foreign USAgency Mortgage Bonds sold to the USFed for freshly printed USDollars, the foreign central banks would not have funds to use in Treasury auctions. Without the Permanent Market Operations used to scoop up all the unsold bonds stuck with primary dealers, one week routinely after each auction, dealers would be unable to participate in the next Treasury auctions. They would suffer from bond constipation. The key event in the next few months, pushed by the foreign disgust at fraud more pervasive than ever conceived by ordinary man, is THE EXPOSURE OF MONETIZATION for support of the USTreasury Bond. The debt monetization remains a dirty secret, well concealed by the USGovt and the financial press. What comes is isolation, and to those isolated, their best friend will be a Printing Pre$$.
Exposure comes, with detrimental impact to the USDollar. The resulting tarnish to the USGovt image and Wall Street reputation (as though it could be further ruined) will be reflected on the USDollar. In time it will fully resemble a Third World currency. The process will take time, but hyper-inflation is coming to US shores. Where are the Deflation Knuckleheads who tended to dominate the web journals last spring and summer, in incredible dense vapid clueless fashion???
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- Gross Notional Product, $605 Trillion (10% Increase) -- 2bro2b, 13:10:12 -- Glyndwr, 14:51:20 11/18/09 Wed
That rocks - and shocks. Thankz,
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- Bubbles sez Gold getting frothy -- morbius, 14:48:37 11/18/09 Wed
Maybe, but avoid playing a mid-game strategy during the end-game.
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- Glyndwr / glodstox get their throats slit -- Sherlock () -- Glyndwr (), 14:42:59 11/18/09 Wed
Lol - almost as good as as Pyrite's catporn thing : )
(Edit - for anyone who missed it - http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2610/catporn.jpg ).
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- in the hours after even gold has been corrupted by tungsten rust ... -- mozel, 14:45:38 11/18/09 Wed
http://www.independentamerican.org/2009/11/17/i-am-not-the-only-christian-to-believe-in-the-religion-of-marxism/
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- people get ready -- WileE, 14:45:33 11/18/09 Wed
there's a train a comin'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T43m6dcMk6U
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- asia takes on the phony comex boys-willie -- mugwump, 14:42:42 11/18/09 Wed
Each delivery month event includes more gold removed from the London exchange, more gold demanded from it, and more movement toward a breakdown. So the next events have even more pressure, with less gold supply and continued relentless demand. Recall also that the exchange, along with the COMEX in the Untied States, exempt the big banks from maintaining 80% collateral when they short gold & silver with paper contracts. Thus the name suppression, or better yet corruption. They are being caught in their naked shorting game. The December 1st events surrounding settlement delivery demands will be more contentious and stressful than October 1st. In sequential manner, the March event will be even more pressure packed, with precious little physical gold in store and more targeted Chinese delivery demanded. The June event will be even more pressure packed still, a backup date for a potential breakdown if it does not occur in March.
The common denominator for the parties demanding gold delivery in London is simple: they are all Asians, all, as in all, and the great majority are Chinese. To say the Chinese are trying to bust the government gold gamers who defend the USDollar is a gross understatement. They use USTreasury Bond credit supply somewhat as leverage, to silence the opposition and critics. One can safely conclude that the US and British banks will be broken with the nexus being their gold management, which underpins the USDollar. Other pressure is sure to mount. Not the kind of pressure you might imagine. Pressure is mounting for senior bank executives and politicians to start revealing the identities, deeds, locations, and dates of the gold tungsten swap, the mortgage bond firehose, and other pervasive frauds protected by the USGovt and British Govt. It might even include producing the true location of the Madoff funds.
GOLD & SILVER BREAKOUTS
The gold & silver prices are moving in lead fashion, and have done so among the currencies for at least the last three months. The major currencies fiddle and diddle (as Johnny Most used to say during Boston Celtic basketball game broadcasts), but gold & silver continue to rise. The Chinese, according to word from connected sources, intend to push the gold price and the silver price relentless upward without explosive parabolic moves and without painful huge selloff corrections. That way, the army of public investors will not lose heart, and will remain on the path, in full phalanx support of the Chinese Govt initiative. The Euro currency has hit the 150 level in mid-October and in mid-November, only to fall back a little. The Euro is not ready for a powerful move to 160 just yet. Such an advance would bring with it a painful effect to German exporters again, not desired. As a result, the gold price in Europe has made significant moves, and is in the process of challenging the 785 high from February. The key to a massive gold bull market is confirmation in terms of other currencies. The gold breakout is being led globally in US$ terms, since the American Peso is the weakest currency on earth outside Zimbabwe. It is being recognized as a Third World banana republic currency. Even the Costa Rican colone currency has made little gains against the USDollar in the last couple months. Bananas are a chief export of Costa Rica. Pura vida! GOLD IS TAKING ITS RIGHTFUL PLACE AS THE PREMIER GLOBAL CURRENCY, AFTER A BREAKDOWN IN THE MONETARY SYSTEM AND INSOLVENCY IN THE BANKING SYSTEM.
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- Glyndwr / check Drooy max -- Sherlock, 14:38:24 11/18/09 Wed
I know i owned it back then. What a ride ! I sold for a big profit, liked it so much bought it again, whereupon it proceeded to tank.
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- As long as the SM holds 1100 S&P which is now support -- APOLLO, 14:38:14 11/18/09 Wed
after a long sub-1100 consolidation, I see more room to run. That said, with Opt-ex Friday, we will be volitile the next couple days.
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- @'da scene -- Eldorado, 14:36:03 11/18/09 Wed
Golds flat. Must be the assayers are on lunch break.
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- Glyndwr / glodstox get their throats slit -- Sherlock (), 14:33:28 11/18/09 Wed
I wouldn't go that far, but some are a little stinkier than others....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arXMhMJbT0U&feature=popt17us02
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- the latest gold fraud- willie -- mugwump, 14:30:29 11/18/09 Wed
The tungsten deposits come in very high grade ore, located in shallow rectangular deposits dispersed widely across the world, segregated in unusual vault heap leach mineralizations. Yes, these guys are leeches! In October, the Hong Kong bankers discovered some gold bars shipped from the United States were actually tungsten with gold plating. This is the exact same Modus Operandi as the silver clad zinc dimes from 45 years ago. History repeats itself. The parallels to mortgage bond fraud with either subprime borrowers or multiple property titles used in bond securitization is easy to spot. A consistent theme runs through the American management of finance and dissemination of fraudulent assets on a global basis. Tungsten gold bars is a feat difficult to surpass. Credit must be given for not leaving any potential for fraud untapped. The Goldman Sachs front running of NYSE trades with their Unix box is just icing on the cake. Fortunately for them, the FBI hustled the whistle blower off and painted him as a Russian marauder of criminal type. Actually, the front running flash trade device is more like icing on the cake whose main body is the naked shorting of bank stocks done by Wall Street firms, whose protector in the USDept Treasury ordered a halt in the practice after they had finished shorting and needed help from the market in covering. Thus the Banned Bank Short List. What a complete comedy of corruption the US financial assets have become. So word comes of tungsten permeating the banking system. It appears the syndicate might be opening the floodgates for the bankers of the world to begin an attempt to corner the light bulb market!!
No disrespect is intended for the trillion$ counterfeits of superstar grade. Refer to the missing $2.3 trillion Pentagon appropriations announced on 10 September 2001. Actually that is just theft, at least done by patriots and certain allies. Refer to the JPMorgan recorded sales of $2.2 trillion in USTreasury Bonds over and above the total issuance by the USDept Treasury itself. That is counterfeit, by definition, at least done by the financial envy of the world. Refer to the missing $1.9 trillion in Fannie Mae funds documented by USDept Housing & Urban Devmt between the years of 1988 and 2000. That gutting was a presidential skeet shooting mission, maybe to fund libraries for memorabilia. These are dastardly deeds of distinction. These are legacy crimes.
The initial discovery was something like four gold bars, which the Hong Kong bankers drilled invasively to test the contents. Reminds me of drilling the earth and measuring how many grams of gold per tonne. The HK bankers hoped to have 99% gold yield in their drill program for the resident bars. They found something like 1% instead and 99% tungsten. By the way, tungsten sells for less than $70 per ton, which makes its swaps for gold to be 60x more profitable than silver bar swaps. Another handy usage for the Gold/Silver ratio in calculations. The hunt was on. Now not a single assayer on the planet is available, as all are tied up. They have been commissioned to test the gold bars shipped from the United States of Fraudulent Banker America in their own bullion vaults. They use basic methods of four drill holes with direct assay of shavings, but also less invasive methods like electro-magnetic waves to examine the metal lattice structure. When highest level methods are needed, they turn to mass spectrometry. NOW ALMOST NO GOLD BARS WILL LEAVE THE LONDON OR NEW YORK METALS EXCHANGES WITHOUT SOME AUTHENTICATION, AS DISTRUST IS WIDESPREAD.
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- Every dog has it's day -- Sherlock, -- Glyndwr, 14:29:44 11/18/09 Wed
This one had it in '96/97. (Click 'max' on your chart..)
Amazing. : )
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- POG - Up... -- Glyndwr, 14:26:01 11/18/09 Wed
But just a little downage in the SMs and Glodstox get their throats slit...
Yep. I'm better off in Fizz.
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- Bob Moriarty of 321 Gold: -- playrightman, 14:18:23 11/18/09 Wed
Gold and silver are getting frothy. Almost as frothy as December of 2004 when the precious metals began a sharp correction. A few people saw it coming and said so.
The dollar is dying but not dead. If you drop a cat off a building high enough, even a dead cat will bounce. The dollar is dead but due for a bounce with the impending credit crisis just around the corner.
The precious metals shares have me baffled. If you look at a chart of the XAU over gold, the shares have been at record lows compared to the price of gold since September of 2008. With a $120 rise in gold in the last two months, gold shares have barely moved. So they are still cheap in historical terms but weaker than I would imagine based on the POG.
The general stock market is beyond frothy. It's totally bonkers and only the fools of the world are long the stock market.
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- Every dog has it's day -- Sherlock, 14:14:51 11/18/09 Wed
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=DROOY#chart4:symbol=drooy;range=1d;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined
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- ... fake yer booty -- BWP, 14:02:35 11/18/09 Wed
"Fraud in the $3 billion global wine market is rising, according to the U.K.’s tax authority. Wine investment scams are also up, U.K. prosecutors said. Richard Alderman, the director of the U.K. Serious Fraud Office, said in an interview in September that the agency is getting more wine-fraud referrals. "
... yeah, there ain't nuffin' sacred no more ... they'll prolly do it ta beer too ...
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- Snot-blowin' sissy girlymen -- playrightman, 13:58:35 11/18/09 Wed
unite!
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- @ The devil made me do it, Mysto. -- BWP, 13:53:55 11/18/09 Wed
... yeah, I get that a lot nowadays ... join the ranks of snot-blowin' sissy girlymen ... be all ya can be ... don't come knockin' on my door fer handouts when civilization collapses ... go stand inna corner 'n hang yer head in shame ... yeah, and wipe the bubbles off yer lip ....
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- While possessed by the urge to sell the other day -- playrightman, 13:49:17 11/18/09 Wed
I had, of course, to ward off the voice of Mysto sounding in my ear.
The devil made me do it, Mysto.
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- ... dollar might take off unexpectedly ....... -- BWP, 13:46:29 11/18/09 Wed
... I see a tiny baby double bottom on the intraday ... don't know what that thing is 'tween the butt cheeks but don't pay it no mind ... things like that crop up from time ta time .... smo-o-o-o-o-kin' .......
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- Arkansas Police Use Taser on 10-Year-Old Girl -- Mikikis, 13:45:19 11/18/09 Wed
"OZARK, Ark. — Ozark Police Chief Jim Noggle says one of his officers used a Taser on a 10-year-old girl who was combative when the officer tried to get the girl into a patrol car to be taken to a youth shelter.
Noggle said Tuesday that officer Dustin Bradshaw went to the girl's home after her mother called police woman called police.
According to a report filed by Bradshaw on Thursday, the officer found the girl on the floor of the house screaming and crying. She refused to follow her mother's instructions and the mother told Bradshaw to use his Taser.
Bradshaw carried the girl to the living room and told her she was going to jail, according to the report. The girl was violently kicking, the report said, and struck Bradshaw in the groin with her legs and feet. The report said Bradshaw administered a "very, very brief" stun with the Taser, put the girl in handcuffs and carried her to his patrol car. She was taken to the Western Arkansas Youth Shelter in Cecil."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,575494,00.html?test=latestnews
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- ... and da 'splosion keeps rollin' along .... -- BWP, 13:43:42 11/18/09 Wed
... ain't that nifty? ... perpetual 'splosion machine ... gold got da powah .... MYSTO got powah too but it's a different kinda powah .... gold don't get visions ... MYSTO does ... and don't ya ferget it ... you could be in peril if ya do ....
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- Mikikis/ when will this thing go parabolic ? -- Sherlock, 13:42:23 11/18/09 Wed
Gold Going Parabolic
By: CAPTAINHOOK ...http://news.goldseek.com/CaptainHook/1258393614.php
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- playrightman -- Mikikis, 13:39:15 11/18/09 Wed
I'm sure that you sold what you sold with generous profits, so IMO you did very well. Not much more complicated than that in the end.
I have had many days where my plan changed in an instant....because true intuitive trading sometimes demands immediate actions.
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- The magic question is -- MichaelH (), 13:29:18 11/18/09 Wed
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Probably not asking the right question. when will this thing go parabolic?
Like parabolic down.
Because when that happens....all bets are off...
and who will be able to hold on and get off close to the bottom? Who will hold on too long? Who will buy too early?
Then you can call it a magic question.
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No, I don't think the top is in yet, short term. And yes we will follow parabolic down with parabolic up.
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- 'da scene -- 2bro2b, 13:33:11 11/18/09 Wed
That's Goldie's data pipe into the exchange.
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- Mikikis--not that my reply -- playrightman, 13:32:44 11/18/09 Wed
answers your question. I mean, who knows the answer to those? I told my wife the morning before I started selling the other day I had no intention of doing so; and when I did so--with seeming confidence--I thought at one point, "Why am I doing this?"
Socrates had a personal daimon who told him to STOP when that was appropriate. We should all be so lucky!
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- @'da scene -- Eldorado, 13:32:40 11/18/09 Wed
OOH OOH, what's this; AGT beginning to get a woody on?
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- Frustrated - more the general market - opt-ex -- APOLLO, 13:29:59 11/18/09 Wed
takes us down with.
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- ok, I officially DON'T understand women........ -- knapper, 13:24:49 11/18/09 Wed
How in the hell can a pharmaceutical that causes enhanced female libido NOT help alleviate depression? Just what the hell do women WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.9900453d71362e75f82c0e358cd4ed7e.61&show_article=1
A drug that failed to fight the blues could be the female answer to the little blue pill Viagra, the lead North American investigator analysing tests of the drug said Tuesday.
Women who took the drug flibanserin when it was being tested as an anti-depressant said it didn't help them beat the glums, but did give them "an increase in libido that they liked," John Thorp, one of the investigators analyzing data from three clinical trials of the drug, told AFP.
Lack of desire is the most common sexual problem in women aged 30 to 60, just as erectile dysfunction, for which Viagra is one of a choice of treatments, is the most common sexual disorder among men in the same age bracket, Thorp said.
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- mikikis -- Miniminer, 13:24:38 11/18/09 Wed
Who will sell too early?
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that will most likely be me...so far this year I've sold half my gold for avg of $1022(less shipping)...I thought about unloading some more but have decided to wait for better realestate deals ... and I do not need the money at this moment.
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- Mikikis--when the biggies go parabolic -- playrightman, 13:24:17 11/18/09 Wed
there will probably be a few moments in which to load up on the turkeys before THEY take flight, and the huge returns will be from them if and when the mania sets in.
I haven't sold my turkeys--most still bloody from last year's bashing--for that reason.
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- playrightman -- Mikikis, 13:18:29 11/18/09 Wed
The magic question is when will this thing go parabolic? Because when that happens....all bets are off...and who will be able to hold on and get off close to the top? Who will hold on too long? Who will sell too early?
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- Sherlock--yep -- playrightman, 13:15:29 11/18/09 Wed
The Casey Research people think there are likely to be some REAL bargains out there before too long. We'll see.
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- playrightman -- Sherlock, 13:12:18 11/18/09 Wed
History says that that gold train always slows down at some point. So I take my profits and wait for the next opportunity, and cheaper tickets. Cheaper than what they just were anyway.
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- @'da scene -- Eldorado, 13:11:16 11/18/09 Wed
2bro2b -- HAR!
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- Kitcotodd -- Mikikis (), 13:09:35 11/18/09 Wed
No problem. Looks like I was indeed just a few days early....bit of a blow-off that was unanticipated.....action right now definitely not looking bullish ST for gold. 1140 will be an interesting fight, let's see if it holds.
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- Gross Notional Product, $605 Trillion (10% Increase) -- 2bro2b, 13:10:12 11/18/09 Wed
Not sure which definition of gross.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/gross-otc-notional-picks-605-trillion-10-increase-gross-notional-derivatives-outstanding
Money velocity. Any Black-Scholes anomalies are expected to be small and evaporate quickly.
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- Pleasing--depending on one's point of view-- -- playrightman, 13:06:07 11/18/09 Wed
To see IAG, Nevsun, Ivanhoe, and Nova Gold settled back to (or close to) the point at which I sold the other day. Still waiting for Yamana!
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- smf keeps chugging on up -- mugwump, 13:02:06 11/18/09 Wed
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=SMF.TO
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- Prediction @ forthecraic, do U think the Chinese -- BUFFORD, 12:59:43 11/18/09 Wed
would buy the rest of the IMF gold above what the Indians paid for it?
The way the US prints money you would think the US would turn on the printing press and buy the last 199 tons and pass it out to their "in the know friends" to take the gold price down
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- That Train Don't Stop Here ? -- Sherlock, 12:56:13 11/18/09 Wed
Just stopping to let some weary passengers off. Don't worry their seats will fill up fast.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB1-Ma1AbSc&feature=related
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- If Faber is not cribbing off mozel's posts, -- mozel, 12:52:17 11/18/09 Wed
mozel is in the lead of him on the same curve.
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- ghana out to screw miners -- mugwump, 12:52:15 11/18/09 Wed
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idAFB18898520091118?rpc=44
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- CMX -- Romanov, 12:45:09 11/18/09 Wed
When I posted here that big buyers were coming into the market at 1028. Dec. gold someone here asked if they were having second thoughts as gold immediately slipped to 1026. I said these big guys (girls too) don't play for peanuts. I forgot who it was, Anyone remember?
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- Cerebral Paulson -- 2bro2b, 12:38:02 11/18/09 Wed
http://blogs.barrons.com/stockstowatchtoday/2009/11/18/wsj-paulson-mulling-gold-fund/
Beware hedgies with shaky headfakes.
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- Mikikis - I suppose that's directed towards me. -- Kitcotodd, 12:06:44 11/18/09 Wed
It wasn't about being a few days early. Sorry for the words yesterday. You seem like a good fella.
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- Lunch time music break -- Sherlock, 12:00:14 11/18/09 Wed
Get up, stretch, take a load off your fanny....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=712kRqri2No
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- @'da scene -- Eldorado, 11:58:15 11/18/09 Wed
Permabear1 -- Ah, the proverbial 'target rich environment', Heh?
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- This looks like a good time for a book quote -- Permabear1, 11:53:36 11/18/09 Wed
In Anthony Sutton's 'War on Gold' written back in 1977, this quote appears in the Appendix at the end of the book (page 221 to be exact). When I read this 32 years ago it had a profound impact on what I believed then and what I still believe now. More reading revealed the fragility of a debt based money system and pushed me into the goldbug camp. Sutton really was able to glimpse into the future; here is the quote:
We are on the edge of a financial precipice which will bring down the financial structure of the Western world. Or, to change the metaphor, out big balloon of debt and fiat money is poised to come crashing down on our heads. When it does ("when," not "if"), we can expect social and economic chaos. This chaos will make our Western society an easy victim for the Marxists, the revolutionaries, the subversives, and their friends.
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- Silver does, of course, deserve a tribute these days -- Mikikis, 11:52:17 11/18/09 Wed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMNzujCb00M
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- Prediction -- forthecraic, 11:50:01 11/18/09 Wed
I see a mojor pullback to $1,000 or so to shake out the weak hands. Based on prior experience it will happen on a Friday. Typical pattern is up Monday and Tuesday, flat on Wednesday, drop on Thursday and/or Friday or am I imagining things. Somebody needs to develop neural based algorithm and plug in about 25 years of data so we can just put it on automatic.
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- GDX /GDXJ -- Sherlock, 11:47:30 11/18/09 Wed
And the winner is.... GDXJ up 2.47% vs.GDx up 0.58%
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- bullish the AUD -- siempre33, 11:44:41 11/18/09 Wed
Chuck's 2c
..the Dec 1st meeting of the RBA will net another 25 BPS rate hike... The reason I think this, is the fact that there will be no meeting in January, thus leaving a 2-month gap, which in these economic times could be devastating... So... Look for another rate hike in Australia on December 1st... Which would be their 3rd consecutive meeting rate hike, and could be the harbinger to parity for the A$...
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- pu-ukani -- Mikikis (), 11:42:49 11/18/09 Wed
Nice to see someone else seeing what I'm seeing right now. Of course the entire idea of a correction may be thrown out the window if this bubbles up too fast.....
Careful talking about it though in these parts...the ultrabulls hate to see someone short term bearish here......especially if it is a few days early....
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- APOLLO -- Frustrated, 11:41:11 11/18/09 Wed
yes, some options pressure but the numbers are getting so
small the influence these days can't be much...
NEM used to see options numbers in the 40K at an individual
strike...these days 10K...the highest on GG 7K at any strike
the crowd has moved to GLD...
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- The juniors are blowing out the majors............... -- Kitcotodd, 11:39:32 11/18/09 Wed
Change there. Silvers's first, but UXG/AZK and others doing quite well. Silver outperforming gold. We have entered another phase of this run. I expect within Apollo's timeframe that the majors will do some sideways action as the juniors and silver outperform.
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- @'da scene -- Eldorado, 11:39:30 11/18/09 Wed
It's actually amazing how many PM stox are red at this time, but then, given their respective poor performances over this run in the metals, perhaps one shouldn't be REAL surprised.
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- Bubbles sez Gold getting frothy -- pu-ukani, 11:37:31 11/18/09 Wed
Actually he's done pretty well at calling Au tops and bottoms.
Gold and silver are getting frothy. Almost as frothy as December of 2004 when the precious metals began a sharp correction. A few people saw it coming and said so.
The dollar is dying but not dead. If you drop a cat off a building high enough, even a dead cat will bounce. The dollar is dead but due for a bounce with the impending credit crisis just around the corner.
The precious metals shares have me baffled. If you look at a chart of the XAU over gold, the shares have been at record lows compared to the price of gold since September of 2008. With a $120 rise in gold in the last two months, gold shares have barely moved. So they are still cheap in historical terms but weaker than I would imagine based on the POG.
The general stock market is beyond frothy. It's totally bonkers and only the fools of the world are long the stock market.
http://www.321gold.com/editorials/moriarty/moriarty111809.html
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- @ MoreGold -- Mikikis ... Once We're Around $2200... -- MoreGold (), 11:35:52 11/18/09 Wed
I'll slow down on the Manip Checks...
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- re Sorry for What? -- ballgame -- JoeB, 11:33:55 11/18/09 Wed
Best episode this year. Richards had a lot of guts to revisit that episode in his life and to do it for laughs.
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- hawthorn/eureka 43-101 -- mugwump, 11:33:13 11/18/09 Wed
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Hawthorne-Gold-and-Eureka-iw-2445631530.html?x=0&.v=1
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- re Sorry for What? -- ballgame, 11:28:26 11/18/09 Wed
Did you see the current episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm?
They work the Michael Richards thing in and it's a hoot. Oh yeah, he's sorry.
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- MoreGold -- Mikikis (), 11:27:32 11/18/09 Wed
Nope...but I keep getting unsolicited e-mails from the "manip check" newsletter....something about it all being manipulated by the evil cabal keeping the price down, even when it goes up almost every day, hehe
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- @'da scene -- Eldorado, 11:28:03 11/18/09 Wed
It must be EXKs turn at 'da bat. It didn't even see that pseudo resistance at 3.62, except to briefly revisit it. Very interesting!
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- Petaquilla up 80%+ on Panama approval -- siempre33, 11:28:02 11/18/09 Wed
http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=PTQ.TO+PTQMF.OB
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- @ Was hoping that gold wouldn't go up like this.... -- Mikikis -- MoreGold, 11:22:40 11/18/09 Wed
I hope your not in the Swammi's camp now...
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- @ Faber ... HeHeHe ... "Will it go $2,000, $200,000 or $2 trillion? I don’t know,” Faber said. " -- MoreGold, 11:21:13 11/18/09 Wed
Gold to Outperform U.S. Stocks on Stimulus, Marc Faber Says
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By Joyce Koh
Nov. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Gold, which climbed to a record today, will outperform U.S. stocks as investors turn to the bullion on further government stimulus spending, said Marc Faber, publisher of the Gloom, Boom & Doom report.
The support level for the commodity will now be at $1,000, which was the precious metal’s resistance level previously, Faber said in a Bloomberg Television interview in Singapore today. Immediate-delivery bullion gained as much as $7.10, or 0.6 percent, to $1,148.40 an ounce in London and was at $1,148.20 by 11:25 a.m. local time.
“What will continue to happen is that the S&P 500 and the Dow Jones will go down relative to gold,” Faber said. “I think gold will go up more” from its support level.
The outlook for gold sparked a debate between economist Nouriel Roubini and Jim Rogers earlier this month. Rogers, the investor who predicted the start of the commodities rally in 1999, said Roubini is wrong about the threat of bubbles in gold and emerging-market stocks. Roubini, who predicted the global economic crisis, said a forecast by the investor that gold will double to at least $2,000 an ounce is “utter nonsense.”
“Will it go $2,000, $200,000 or $2 trillion? I don’t know,” Faber said. “But if you have money printing in the world, then the price will over time rise. It will go up more for things that you just can’t increase the supply, and the supply of precious metals is very limited.”
‘Good Asset’
Gold is set for a ninth annual gain as central banks, pension funds and individual buyers seek to protect themselves from potential currency debasement and inflation. Policy makers worldwide have set interest rates near zero and spent $2 trillion to pull the world economy out of the worst recession since World War II.
“With the crisis, people are realizing gold is a good asset to have,” Pierre Gay, chief executive officer at Newedge Financial Asia-Pacific, said in a Bloomberg Television interview today. “For me, the potential for gold is pretty high.”
Faber expects the U.S. government to increase its stimulus spending should the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index fall toward 900. The U.S. budget deficit under President Barack Obama’s administration reached a record $1.4 trillion in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30. Debt amounted to 9.9 percent of the nation’s economy, triple the size of the 2008 shortfall.
“I don’t think the S&P will drop below 800 or 900, and eventually will go higher in nominal terms, but not necessary in real terms,” he said, predicting a correction in the measure in the “near term.”
The index rose 0.1 percent to 1,110.32 yesterday. The investor predicted on March 9 in a Bloomberg interview that equities would rally because of government stimulus measures. The S&P 500 Index dropped to a 12-year low that day and has since climbed 64 percent as a four-quarter contraction in the world’s largest economy ended, while the MSCI World Index rallied 71 percent.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aSoEpFEjNz3o&pos=5
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- bought franco nevada -- mugwump, 11:11:06 11/18/09 Wed
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=FNNVF.PK
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- Of course if the USD crumbles here -- Mikikis (), 11:07:54 11/18/09 Wed
Then gold could go to $1300 fairly quickly without much resistance. Before the end of the year IMO.
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- ABX & GG -option-ex pressure? Einhorn & ABX below -- APOLLO, 11:08:23 11/18/09 Wed
http://www.streetinsider.com/Insider+Trades/Einhorn+Sticks+With+Gold,+Gets+More+Healthcare+and+Takes+A+Stab+At+Possible+Pick-Up+In+Employment/5115125.html
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- Was hoping that gold wouldn't go up like this.... -- Mikikis, 11:04:55 11/18/09 Wed
Probably clouded how I saw the move.....my gold call on Monday was wrong....but my USD call so far looks correct....75 still holding here. Quite a few bounces now at this level in the USDX...either we get a nice fall or it will finally do some sort of reversal here....strange that it is bouncing so much here.
I'm thinking that gold got an extra boost from the tungsten fake news....which extended the wave somewhat to where we are now. Too bad really, since it probably means a bit longer in correction (not necessarily a lower price...just a longer wait before it moves up again perhaps).
We'll see. Definitely not a buyer here...but if this goes higher quickly I'll consider selling some silver at $20.
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- Faber Says `Sky Will Be The Limit' for Rising Gold -- doran, 11:02:20 11/18/09 Wed
http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm?N=av&T=Faber%20Says%20%60Sky%20Will%20Be%20The%20Limit%27%20for%20Rising%20Gold%20Price&clipSRC=mms://media2.bloomberg.com/cache/vuZkPHEkdyfM.asf
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- We're not acting very well here - SM starting to crack? -- APOLLO, 10:59:41 11/18/09 Wed
seems to be our achilles & we have option-ex coming. Dicey from here to Friday - still one more push up next week & then load in some hedge.
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- Counterfeit n (15c) 1: Forgery 2: something likely to be mistaken for something of higher value. -- Sherlock, 10:58:32 11/18/09 Wed
A chief Austrian finding is that counterfeiting causes malinvestment. The fact that most counterfeiting is done by governments and called monetary policy does not change the consequences one iota. --Richard Maybury...http://www.fofoa.blogspot.com/
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- if it quacks like a duck -- 2bro2b, 10:53:27 11/18/09 Wed
“When the ducks quack, feed them” (Wall Street proverb)
http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/when_the_ducks_quack_feed_them_wall_street_proverb/
Some tenants across the road were raising ducks in a coop many years ago that got loose or were released when the renters moved out and found their way down to the pond in front. The hens soon disappeared, probably falling prey to feral cats that whittle down the duckling and gosling broods of mallards, wood ducks and honkers that return to nest in the spring. Before becoming catfood one successfully nested in the yard, leaving behind a puny weakling when she left with the others which my spouse tried to to nurse and feed with an eyedropper in a lined cardboard box with a lightbulb for heat, not understanding that ducks are smarter.
But the cagey lone drake lived on for years, mingling with the wild flocks swooping in from the flyway, staying year round, waddling up the hill from the pond for a handout, quacking at the glass doors for food, fearful of adults but greedily eat out of the kids' hands until he came no more.
Jake the Drake, still lives on in the small circle of trusted personal financial advisors, 3rd SVM lot up for bid, you probably don't wanna know the other advisors.
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- Haven't We Been to This Show Before ? -- skys39, 10:43:50 11/18/09 Wed
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19729161/Havent-We-Been-to-This-Show-Before-Dan-AlpertWestwood
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- Wow ! -- Sherlock, 10:43:03 11/18/09 Wed
Even DROOY is up today ! Up 5.54%
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- Crude remains higher after EIA petroleum data (80 buck crude again !) -- Sherlock, 10:40:11 11/18/09 Wed
By Moming Zhou
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Crude-oil futures remained higher Wednesday after government data showed a modest decline in U.S. crude inventories...http://www.marketwatch.com/story/crude-remains-higher-after-eia-petroleum-data-2009-11-18
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- Sorry for what? -- Sherlock, 10:26:30 11/18/09 Wed
By MarketWatch
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- The problem with an apology is that once made, you have admitted your guilt. From there, things can snowball. Just ask Michael Richards, Kanye West, Don Imus and David Letterman....
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/goldmans-apology-may-make-matters-worse-2009-11-18
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- svm up again -- mugwump, 10:21:44 11/18/09 Wed
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=SVM.TO
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- U.S. oil output hit 4-year high last month: API -- Sherlock, 10:21:23 11/18/09 Wed
By Moming Zhou
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- U.S. crude oil production for October averaged 5.36 million barrels per day, standing at the highest level since 2005, the American Petroleum Institute reported Wednesday. "The October production figures continue to detail the industry's success story in the Gulf of Mexico, particularly the deep waters, as well as the way new technologies have helped bring on new production both offshore and onshore," said API Statistics Manager Ron Planting in a statement.
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- @'da scene -- Eldorado, 10:20:21 11/18/09 Wed
I'm curious why there are any housing starts when there are millions of empty homes and no lack of lack of jobs..
Heh..
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- ho hum trx up 13% -- mugwump, 10:18:51 11/18/09 Wed
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=TRX.V
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- endeavor wants more land -- mugwump, 10:16:13 11/18/09 Wed
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/091118/0560676.html?.v=1
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- Consumer prices up 0.3%, led by higher energy price -- Sherlock, 10:15:26 11/18/09 Wed
By Rex Nutting, MarketWatch
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- U.S. consumer prices rose a seasonally adjusted 0.3% in October as energy prices increased for the fifth time in six months to offset another rare decline in rents, the Labor Department reported Wednesday....http://www.marketwatch.com/story/consumer-prices-up-03-led-by-energy-cars-2009-11-18
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- royal gold jacks up dividend- i'm rich!! -- mugwump, 10:13:47 11/18/09 Wed
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Royal-Gold-Raises-Common-bw-1839201603.html?x=0&.v=1
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- Housing starts fall back to lowest level in six months -- Sherlock, 10:12:43 11/18/09 Wed
By Greg Robb, MarketWatch
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- In a blow to the optimism that had surrounded the U.S. housing sector in recent months, housing starts fell a sharp 10.6% in October, the Commerce Department reported Wednesday....http://www.marketwatch.com/story/housing-starts-stage-broad-retreat-in-october-2009-11-18
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- Gold futures soar to high near $1,150 as dollar falls vs. rivals -- Sherlock, 10:10:49 11/18/09 Wed
By Polya Lesova & Kate Gibson, MarketWatch
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Gold futures climbed to a record on Wednesday, as the dollar fell against other major currencies, polishing the investment appeal of the precious metal....http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gold-futures-soar-to-record-as-dollar-drops-2009-11-18
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- As Palestinian homes get demolished, new Israeli housing units are built -- doran, 10:06:45 11/18/09 Wed
Jerusalem (AsiaNews) – Israeli soldiers and bulldozers pulled up today at 24 Palestinian homes in the village of Al-Isawiya, in East Jerusalem, to start demolishing them. Meanwhile, US and UN officials timidly rebuked Israel’s decision to build 900 housing units in Gilo, also in East Jerusalem. For experts, this makes the setting up of a Palestinian state on contiguous territory that more difficult. It also makes it almost impossible for Jerusalem to become the capital of two states.
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=16895&size=A
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- Hambone - yep, that's our achilles heal - SM -- APOLLO, 10:03:37 11/18/09 Wed
at some point the "Profit-taker" shows up, or they simply say, enough on this & down she'll go & unfortunately, not sure but what the USD rallies & we go with - not as bad, but we will correct I suspect.
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- Fed May Not Increase Rates Until 2012, Bullard Says -- doran, 10:03:13 11/18/09 Wed
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a7qkmlD0fjV0&pos=1
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- hunting: breaking the buck -- 2bro2b, 09:58:40 11/18/09 Wed
During a November high school lunchbreak, Frostbite Falls, canadian border circa late ‘Sixties it was common to uncase and pass around the deer rifles from generally unlocked vehicles in the parking lot, excuse in hand to take Friday afternoon off to head to the shack, the new birthday present or scope, the moving up the guncase ladder to older brother’s hand-me-down or passed-on grandpa’s inheritance, the principal or a teacher coming out or coming over to see what’s new. School shootings were as yet nonexistent, the sight of youths with uncased rifles on school property no more alarming than lads going down the riverbank with fishing poles over their shoulders. A tool for a task as a hammer to a nail not for bashing in heads. Who knows what happened to inculcated, internalized restraints making the unthinkable and unimaginable so much less so, diminishment of some sort of foundational capital given way to footing castles in air.
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- tanashian -- mugwump, 09:58:21 11/18/09 Wed
There is talk of a gold bubble and in my opinion, the most unsavory of the gold bug 'community' are out in full force, hoping for nothing less. But gold is not in a bubble. That is because gold represents an anchor to sensible systems and simpler times. It is going nowhere. The other stuff, the remnants of a rotting system is what is going somewhere and that somewhere is down. In short, confidence is being lost. It is no coincidence that gold is the only asset in new high (blue sky) territory.
Back to the chart, look at what happened as Greenspan finally ran out of Volcker's ammo and the market realized that this was simply a shell game promoted mainly by the macro vendor financing relationship between the US and China. There have been various means of keeping treasuries aloft, not least of which is the need for China and other creditors to keep buying them or at the least, not talk them down. Gold's honest monetary value has simply picked up on the rigged game beneath the surface and sought the value that treasury yields have thus far refused to seek.
At the very least, this is a picture of honesty beneath the surface and sadly it is a picture that most people will either never see or come to see when the media are shoving it down their throats and they panic into gold at god knows what higher price than it is currently at.
I'll kill it here, but when I see and ponder pictures like this, I hear thousands of words.
Gary Tanashian
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- APOLLO -- Hambone, 09:58:07 11/18/09 Wed
True, the market didn't like the housing numbers, but gold should. Rates going nowhere for sure now. However, the question remains how PM stocks react on a general market pull back.
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- SM did not like those housing numbers -- APOLLO, 09:55:26 11/18/09 Wed
& we got Opt-ex this week.
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- to dah moooooon ! -- skys39, 09:54:50 11/18/09 Wed
yipee !!
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- Sherlock -- Hambone, 09:53:33 11/18/09 Wed
Yep. Had to print that 2.93 to break out.
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- Hambone/ UXG -- Sherlock (), 09:46:57 11/18/09 Wed
Oh look! $3.06
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- @ CNBC ... Interviewing WGC and Telfer ... -- MoreGold, 09:46:53 11/18/09 Wed
Talking GLD Now ...
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- Well, hate to say it, but -- Glyndwr, 09:46:32 11/18/09 Wed
GOLD TO DA MOON!!!
(It's just ignoring everything but itself..).
: )
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- Philbond - got it -- APOLLO, 09:44:17 11/18/09 Wed
not the way I use to hunt, but sure sounds like fun.
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- private equity: smartest guys in the rubber room -- 2bro2b, 09:41:30 11/18/09 Wed
After contributing to the record $1.2 trillion raised by buyout funds this decade, many pensions, endowments and wealthy families suffered their worst losses last year.
Private-equity firms typically charge investors a fee equal to 2 percent of assets under management and take 20 percent of all profit they generate.
Calpers committed $25 billion under Dear’s predecessor, Russell Read, to private-equity funds started in 2006 and 2007, more than four times the amount offered to funds formed in the two previous years. The pension fund posted the worst annual performance since its creation in 1932 in the year ended June 30, as assets dropped by 23 percent. Alternative investments, such as private equity and hedge funds, fell 31 percent.
The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index has rallied 64 percent from its March 9 low. Loan prices as measured by S&P/LSTA U.S. Leveraged Loan 100 Index, which tracks the most-actively traded loans, gained a record 46 percent this year after declining an unprecedented 28 percent in 2008.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a1Zm6rd4t2pc&pos=7
PowerShares Listed Private Equity ETF vs S&P500 vs bond index; 2yrs
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&s=PSP&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=BND&c=%5EGSPC
Private equity indeed. Clients: Where's my face.
PT Barnum, updated: There's a sucker born every second.
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- $1150 broke... -- Glyndwr (), 09:37:57 11/18/09 Wed
At the EUR jump. Relaxing a bit again - for now.
http://isht.comdirect.de/html/detail/main.html?hist=1d&sSym=GLD.FX1&DEBUG=0&sCat=IND&sIsin=n%2fa&sTab=bigchart&sWkn=n%2fa&type=CONNECTLINE bbl
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- Apollo -- philbond007, 09:36:56 11/18/09 Wed
This years annual hunt was roughed out in a Traverse Bay area resort, located in the NW area of Michigan's lower peninsula. Here's how the "hunting" schedule works:
1) Arrive in the evening, take power nap from the exhaustive 3.5hr drive.
2) Wake from the nap, shower, and have dinner.
3) After dinner card game, cigar & drinks.
4) Late in the evening, launch it to the casino.
5) Typical action after casino is launch to "nudy" bar, unfortunately, closest "nudy" bar was 2hrs away, didn't happen this year.
6) Locate "very" late night grub hole and scarf greasy eggs & pig meat.
7) Wake up noon time, guzzle coffee, shower, and have lunch.
8) Take SUV's off roading for a couple hours.
** Repeat steps (2 thru 8) for length of "hunt".
** Hunting license is a donation to the DNR.
** All the gear brought along's just for "show-n-tell".
** For those married, wives expect a nice gift, considered a substitute for "deer" meat.
Hope this answers your question about the "buck":
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- @'da scene -- Eldorado, 09:36:29 11/18/09 Wed
MoreGold -- Hell, I'm waiting for that 50 buk move in POS!
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- @ CNBC ... Fed Gov Says No Rate Increase Until ... -- MoreGold, 09:36:18 11/18/09 Wed
Beginning of 2012.
Mayans???
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- EUR jumps up.. -- Glyndwr, 09:29:17 11/18/09 Wed
Threatens $1.50 again. (I don't read Uncle Jim, but he referred to this as a 'Maginot line' in the Kingworld interview posted earlier). bbl
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- Uninsured patients twice as likely to die in hospital -- doran, 09:27:38 11/18/09 Wed
The research team found that uninsured patients who had experienced traumatic events like car crashes, falls and gunshot wounds were 80 percent more likely to die than those with any form of insurance. Even patients with Medicaid had lower mortality rates. Commercially-insured patients had death rates of 3.3 percent, while uninsured patients had a 5.7 percent death rate.
Read more: http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/story/uninsured-patients-twice-likely-die-hospital/2009-11-16#ixzz0XDmYRDXK
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- @ Still Waiting For That ... -- MoreGold, 09:24:10 11/18/09 Wed
+50. Move Day in GOLD ...
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- @ Benwanke Yapping About Increasing Rates ??? Sure Benny ... -- MoreGold, 09:22:36 11/18/09 Wed
U.S. Housing Starts, Permits Fall Sharply in October- Reuters
New U.S. housing starts in October unexpectedly fell to their lowest level in six months, weighed down by a sharp decline in construction activity for both single-family and multi-family dwellings, a government report showed on Wednesday.
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- argonaut to acquire castle gold -- mugwump, 09:22:12 11/18/09 Wed
yeah- more money for me
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Castle-Gold-Closes-Financing-iw-3089077632.html?x=0&.v=1
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- Gold Could Hit $1,400 This Year: CEO -- Sherlock, 09:21:44 11/18/09 Wed
By: CNBC.com
The gold rally is far from over and the price of the precious metal could hit $1,400 per troy ounce by the end of the year and keep rising from there, James Turk, CEO of GoldMoney, told CNBC....http://www.cnbc.com/id/34010551
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- spm net income -- mugwump, 09:18:42 11/18/09 Wed
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Scorpio-Announces-Third-cnw-3434995144.html?x=0&.v=1
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- overnight highs -- siempre33, 09:15:08 11/18/09 Wed
Gold 1149.30
Silver 18.84
we want more! we want more!
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- If it keeps on raining levee's going to break -- 2bro2b, 08:54:50 11/18/09 Wed
The UK and Belgium taking a meat axe and dismembering the bailed out to-big-to-fail financial behemoths into small enough to fail chunks is something to deeply admire and envy. Instead of the reverse in the US, merging failed behemoths into megabehemoths. A fellow on TV yesterday said that the 10 largest financial institutions account for 60% of US assets, the 20 largest 80%. Is there really no one around who knows how to run this railroad. Or is it on the scheduled tracks, engineering larger trainwrecks the sooner the better on the way to the Vassal-Line state.
All aboard, nice Buffet in the dining car, bon appetit, riding on the sh*tty of New Orleans.
When the levee breaks have no place to stay
When you're going down south and there's no work to do
And you're going on to Chicago
Going - going to Chicago
Going to Chicago
"“When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion – when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing – when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors – when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you – when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice – you may know that your society is doomed”.
-- Ms. Rand
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- Hightower: Obscenely Rich Bankers Claim to Do God's Work -- They Can Go to Hell -- doran, 08:52:38 11/18/09 Wed
As in our country, people in Europe are enraged at those hustlers of high finance who wrecked the world's economies, then flexed their political muscle to get governments to replenish their bankrupt vaults. Infuriatingly, these bailed-out bankers have now returned to business as usual, including grabbing monstrous bonus payments for themselves.
http://www.alternet.org/story/144026/hightower%3A_obscenely_rich_bankers_claim_to_do_god%27s_work_--_they_can_go_to_hell
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- yng to sell warrants to get jerritt going again -- mugwump, 08:46:34 11/18/09 Wed
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/YukonNevada-Gold-Corp-cnw-712935778.html?x=0&.v=1
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- Protestors to Goldman Sachs: "You Are Not God" - Bernanke Explains Why -- doran, 08:44:21 11/18/09 Wed
Somebody call up Pat Robertson! Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein is going around claiming he's "doing God's work."
http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2009114716/protestors-goldman-sachs-you-are-not-god-bernanke-gives-reason-why
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- whose buying all that gold -- mugwump, 08:43:51 11/18/09 Wed
The World's Biggest Players Are Buying Gold
By Jeff Clark, senior editor, Casey's Gold & Resource Report
Central banks are net buyers of gold for first time in 22 years...
Precious-metals research firm GFMS reports central banks around the world bought more gold in the second quarter than they sold for the first time since 1987. And consider this:
Amount of gold France will sell this year: zero
Amount of gold Germany will sell this year: zero
Amount of gold Switzerland will sell this year: zero
So let's get this straight: China and Russia are buying gold, several European countries have ceased selling their gold, and central banks are net buyers. Wall Street is also piling into gold. John Paulson, the most successful money manager of 2008, has made a $4.3 billion bet on gold and gold stocks. David Einhorn, Paul Tudor Jones, and Jim Rogers have all purchased gold this year, too.
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And just last week comes this news from the Financial Times: The world's wealthiest families are also switching to gold. "Two-thirds of the 100 respondents to a survey by the Family Office Channel, a new website, said that super-rich families are now more likely to invest in gold and other commodities."
These trends are real and they're pushing gold higher by the day. But the real fireworks will start when Main Street catches gold fever. The gold market is tiny; ergo, any panic out of the dollar by the general public will send gold investments into the stratosphere. As Doug Casey likes to say, "It'll be like trying to push the contents of Hoover Dam through a garden hose."
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- Mozel....I joined AARP. -- duppy, 08:12:01 11/18/09 Wed
A different one...
Armed And Really Pissed.
We have NOT endorsed anything but.....
Molon Labe.
There is no bad weather...only poor clothing choices.
dUp
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- Kingworld interviews - from Friday -- Glyndwr (), 07:46:19 11/18/09 Wed
Uncle Jim http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2009/11/13_Jim_Sinclair.html
Schiff http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2009/11/13_Peter_Schiff.html bbl
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- BHP CEO pours water on global recovery .. -- Delta-au, 07:46:58 11/18/09 Wed
By Rebecca Keenan and James Paton
Nov. 18 (Bloomberg) -- BHP Billiton Ltd., the world’s largest mining company, remains “cautious” on the global economy in the short- to medium-term, Chief Executive Office Marius Kloppers said today.
Restocking in developed economies has been “somewhat slow to start and has actually been quite lethargic to date,” the 47-year-old executive said in a speech to the Lowy Institute in Sydney. Kloppers on Oct. 29 said there were signs of restocking in major economies as steel output outside of China rises.
U.S. industrial production rose less than economists forecast in October, restrained by reductions in the making of autos and business equipment, a report from the Fed showed yesterday. Long-term commodity growth will be driven by China and India, Kloppers said today.
“We have seen strong demand recovery in our sector, driven mainly by China,” Kloppers said. The Asian nation this year has had “surprisingly strong commodity purchasing activity,” he said. Part of the rebound was because of restocking, he said.
Melbourne-based BHP gained 0.3 percent to A$40.60 at the 4:10 p.m. Sydney time close on the Australian stock exchange. The stock has risen 33 this year compared with a 27 percent increase in the benchmark index.
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- “Chrystal Meth Monetary Policy” -- doran, 07:42:45 11/18/09 Wed
http://blog.atimes.net/?p=1234
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- @silver outperforming gold -- Smythe, 07:40:05 11/18/09 Wed
but gold is making new highs, while silver is still below 2008 highs. Bunker Hunts highs notwithstanding.
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- Dollar doing the right thing -- doran, 07:40:02 11/18/09 Wed
The US dollar's decline has conservative media bewailing the currency's and the country's fate. Yet its 18% recent fall is against the euro, with little change against currencies of leading trade partners China and Japan. And given that the US is in economic distress, and has $30 billion a month trade deficits and zero interest rates, the dollar very much should be falling
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/KK19Dj01.html
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- Bambam vs. Doctor Hu. -- Glyndwr (), 07:29:59 11/18/09 Wed
http://seekingalpha.com/article/173948-u-s-china-meeting-outcome-china-has-the-upper-hand?source=hp_wc
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- Glyndwr -- Iainmac, -- Glyndwr, 07:33:23 11/18/09 Wed
My original driver was to protect against an SM downturn which would do another Oct. 08 to the Glodstox.
But maybe Faber has a point about SM asset pricing reacting to a falling Dolla. We'll see.
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- Glyndwr -- Iainmac, 07:29:09 11/18/09 Wed
I'm about 50:50 stox and physical - feel safer with the physical, particularly as there's no electronic digits attached to it.
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- SM thoughts.. -- Glyndwr, 07:28:27 11/18/09 Wed
http://seekingalpha.com/article/173607-why-the-stock-market-should-crash?source=article_sb_popular
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- Recently swapped 2/3ds of Glodstox for Phys. -- Glyndwr, 07:05:50 11/18/09 Wed
Beginning to wonder the wisdom of it now..
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- ealy dont think that the global investors believe in the strengh of $USD anymore -- WIFFO, 07:05:21 11/18/09 Wed
the bankers betrayal of the American people runs deep.
The dollar is fucked.
The batton for production of wealth has passed to Asia.
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- Skinnee, you tw*t -- Iainmac, -- Glyndwr, 07:01:38 11/18/09 Wed
No need to worry about Skinee no more. Apparently, he's just flown to a Country that doesn't exist..
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