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The iranian nuke problem been on the stove for almost eleven years now,bubbling and smoking,with regular updates of total bullshit to fan the fear.
Actually, it's a lot longer than that,but once they got elevated into the axis of evil,the ever present crazy Persians with nukes meme has been incessant.
"Since Repsol purchased control of YPF, for $ 15 billion, in 1999, Argentina’s oil production fell 38.3% and gas production fell 25.4%, between 1999 and 2011. During that time, Repsol made $ 15,728 million in profits, more than what it paid for YPF. It is well known that future of oil production depends on exploratory activity, which is a costly and risky investment and which Repsol neglected. During its tenure there were only 8 exploratory wells drilled, which cost just 0.2% of its income. Repsol’s policy was to exploit existing wells to their maximum capacity, a practice that disturbs the balance on fluids and gases, makes natural pressure drop, and makes extraction of remaining oil an expensive and complicated procedure."
"The great game has reached Bangladesh. ConocoPhilips is already exploring oil reserves in the Bay of Bengal. The maritime boundary dispute between India and Bangladesh might be resolved in 2014 if the international court gives the verdict, as seems likely.
There are huge business opportunities opening up for Big OIl and the American companies in Bangladesh and Myanmar and their vast economic zones in the Bay of Bengal now that the maritime boundary dispute between the two countries has been resolved. Kolkatta is the gateway that connects the Indian market with the El Dorado.
To be sure, Mamata has a crucial role to play in the US geostrategy, which also happens to be a crucial template of Washington’s ‘containment’ strategy toward China."
that would be USD hegemony,the world's largest debtor issues the money and calls the shots on a global basis.
As the system becomes more and more absurd,so does the lawlessness and the wanton killings,it's a fact that is rarely mentioned by the deep thinking punditocracy.
i've been watching this show for a while now,i seen it go off the rails.
something to Munch on -- Bullishonbronze, 12:28:49 05/04/12 Fri
the auction of Scream for record art auction price was foreboding of future SMkt action?
Larry Flint? Whats wrong with Flint?
Drug Lords exist mainly due to drug laws.
PlannedParenthood? If gods exist let them appear and comment. They can not o/c.
Stalin, Khmer Rouge: And the shameful impotent all knowing gods stood around powerlessly picking butt while gleefully ignoring the pleas and prayers of millions, nice.
had an epic, lucid dream last night ........... among other things was Doug Noland -- Bullishonbronze, 11:55:47 05/04/12 Fri
I never have read Doug and only vaguely recalled the name as familiar upon rising from bed. I then looked him up, and he is manager of Prudent Bear Fund.
Gurk, to be more specific I identify with... -- AuManAJ, 11:53:45 05/04/12 Fri
"Secular humanism is a secular ideology which espouses reason, ethics, and justice, whilst specifically rejecting supernatural and religious dogma as a basis of morality and decision-making."
I don't deny zionist faults, and many they are. I just
don't believe the jews are to blame for everything.(Reason)
I feel compelled to expose those that espouse such as feeble-minded, simpletons who parrot the crap they read without engaging any live brain cells. (Ethics)
And I'd rather attack the root of the problem, the corruption caused by too much power; in religion, government, and the monopolistic krony corporations. (Justice)
Curious though. Exactly what have I written here in the last 2 days that any intelligent person could consider hypocritical?
Bob -- Jasper, 11:44:11 05/04/12 Fri -- Bullishonbronze, 11:51:28 05/04/12 Fri
I think you and Fubar make good points. One needs to recognize the failings of all humans. And get out of this web of calculating which group is victim, which is victimizer, & etc. For this would be a complete view of history past and contemporary.
LilDevil spawn: Stalin, Khmer Rouge, Larry Flint, druglords, PlannedParenthood, FedReserve, . . . -- Bullishonbronze, 11:35:00 05/04/12 Fri
the list goes on ad infinitum.
Religion@ Mindless Drivel -- LilDevil (), 11:27:08 05/04/12 Fri
.
They fight and argue over invisible powerless gods.
Yet they can offer no prove nor evidence, only a book fulla nothings.
An unity of convenience and lies, a conspiracy of impotent fiction.
Primitively criminal, the bane of mankind.
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Now closed out and off... -- Gurk, 11:29:06 05/04/12 Fri
There should be a relief rally here.
If you have patience. Dow read 13059.9
@"Tolerate the murderers because if they didn't do it, -- mozel, 11:27:41 05/04/12 Fri
somebody else would ...
The world will never be rid of crime, so why chase criminals ? It's a waste of time and money ..." Self-serving JewSpeak.
What awaits us in the distance
light turns to dark in an instant
Perhaps, if this is beginning of a sustained big move down in SMkt: today would have a snapback rally to capture bulls (this because, for one thing, GMCR got a 7% opening bounce. So, there's yet buy dip mentality yet smoldering). Then Monday the void, gap open plunge downward massively, and closing at lows as if to proclaim: Sie sind verfluchte Hunde!
@ "Being put to death by one or the other is still death " -- Gurk, 11:21:13 05/04/12 Fri
They won't if they are 'humanists'...
It'll be written on their foreheads..
so you won't have to fear them..
oh I didn't include me in that. I'd presume anyone would assume that... -- Gurk, 11:18:09 05/04/12 Fri
but answer the post. You're a hypocrite ? Right ?
Humanitarian like hell.. What a crock ...
A boring evasive attention seeking twit..
The Mongols, the Huns, the Mayans, the Aztecs -- Jasper, 11:16:20 05/04/12 Fri
Celts
Normans
Cro-magnon man
Japanese
Chinese
Pol Pot
Czarist and post czarist Russia
Being put to death by one or the other is still death, enjoy your breakfast.
Different view? You have only one view and it
proves you the moron. Wake up fool. You're
playing right into their hands.
The vast majority outside this insane asylum
would find you offensive and ignorant. You are
so full of hatred that you assume all who
call you on it must be jews and zionists.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn
you're one of those self-loathing jews in nazi
disguise.
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three greatest killers and slavers in the history of the world are judaism, RC catholics and islam -- Jasper, 11:08:09 05/04/12 Fri
If it wasn't them it would have been another group
@ "I am a Humanist." by AuMoronAJ, 10:18:42 -- Gurk (), 10:53:23 05/04/12 Fri
No, you're an idiot and a hypocrite.
You've just spent 2 days using the most
crude and juvenile abuse against other people
who simply have different views .
A Jew with his real name is rare.
Maybe 'Humanistberg is yours ?
Besides, you can't hide the militant Zionism...
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@johnny -- mozel, 10:48:59 05/04/12 Fri
Toleration ? Go and preach Jesus Christ in the State of Israel and report back to me on toleration.
You left America. If you were here, living under the Zionist Occupied Government, you would be less in favor of tolerating it and its controllers, I suspect, strongly.
Kumbaya politics -- Fubar, 10:33:16 05/04/12 Fri
I love the poem with feel good intentions to divert from the facts. We are still waiting for you to address them.Nobody is focusing on the jews. The trouble is the jews are focusing on us:
1. Made free speech hate speech.
2. Stole our right to print our currency
3. Stole our nuclear secrets and sold them to our enemies.
4. The Lavon affair
5. Our constitution is not good enough for the zionazi-the United Nations- the latest form of jewish slavery in the USA.
6. Brutally and cowardly murdered the 34 on the SS Liberty
7. Highly implicted in the 911 false flag
8. Had written into law that it is wrong to charge the state of Israel more interest in a year than the amount of
aid we give Israel each year. If this doesn't explain jewish banking nothing does.
It appears that to comment on the muderous nature of the jew killing us is not allowed. So typical of a chosen one to not address their faults. Until the jew becomes a human being like the rest of us and addresses his shortcomings he will only be the slaver his history has proven.
Send that poem to the families from the SS Liberty. Surely they must be honored to die for the SELF CHOSEN one.
@WIFFO -- mozel, 10:27:34 05/04/12 Fri
@""Father oh Father, why have you forsaken me"..were his final words."
You were not there, were you ? Then, why do you deviate from the record of the testimony of those who were there ? These are not the final words. Nor did Isaac what you wrote. In fact, your whole account is a false report.
Zacharias asked the same question that you ask. He asked it of Jesus. The answer, though given in plain words, is not for the natural mind of man to grasp or be persuaded of without the help of the Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth in the Galilee, the love of God the Father, and the Fellowship of the Holy Spirit. Find the preaching of the Word of Faith, read the New Testament, beseech Jesus of Nazareth with all your heart and he will answer your faith with what you need. As he is, so we who believe on him are in this world. St. John.
Actually Johnny -- Mikikis, 10:26:24 05/04/12 Fri
Just seeing that what I wrote could have been read the way that you appear to have read it. Wasn't talking so much about antagonism FROM the group....more antagonism from other Christian groups toward the group.
Fubar, "Religion is not the work of gods. It is the work of demented human beings." -- AuManAJ, 10:18:42 05/04/12 Fri
Could I have seen less than there was to see in you?
Could the twinkle in your eyes actually be more than
just the sun shining between your ears.
FYI, I am not Muslim, Christian, Jewish, or Zionist.
I am a Humanist. Organized religion is anti- human being.
I'm sick of the simple-minded blaming everything on the Jews.
Are there evil Jews? Of course. There are evil people in every
religion, ethnic group, and of every nationality.
The root of the problem is corruption caused by too much power;
in religion, government, and the monopolistic krony corporations.
Focusing on Jews as THE problem only divides us and deflects
attention from our real enemies... the entrenched power elite
who want to control us for their own gain.
Now really must go to work. Just bought a few ESIN12 at 30.19 and have to pay attention. I'll be back after markets close.
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"Word of Faith Christian of The Reformation revival" -- Mikikis (), 10:16:06 05/04/12 Fri
This actually explains A LOT. Lots of controversy surrounding your group, why all the antagonism? Is everybody else jealous/envious that you folks have found the one and only answer/way?
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The gnostics had a great fear of organized religion. They felt the greatest evil that ever existed were the elohim and the great dimiurge-the greatest evil- jehovah.
For their heresy, the jews killed most of them around 0 AD. Later when they rebounded the catholics killed the rest in 400AD.AuManAJ would have made a great jew, catholic or islamist.
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@WIFFO -- mozel, 09:59:27 05/04/12 Fri
Despite your suggestion, I do not. You may be experiencing veneration, which is an emotional attachment to a graphical representation or illusion, a common experience of icon worshippers of all times and places. I am a Word of Faith Christian of The Reformation revival.
norman jews muslims and so called christians... -- WIFFO, 09:53:35 05/04/12 Fri
are all children of the same brutal, bloodthirsty god.
the same god...how many do you think there are?
(Zionist Occupied Government) -- normandyrevulsion, 09:44:58 05/04/12 Fri
“Our education system, our media, and our intelligentsia have all been unrelentingly undermining the values, the traditions, and the unity of this country for generations and, at the same time, portraying as “understandable” all kinds of deviance, from prostitution to drugs to riots….
“When I see the worsening degeneracy in our politicians, our media, our educators, and our intelligentsia, I can’t help wondering if the day may yet come when the only thing that can save this country is a military coup.”
All of the men and women serving on active duty or in the reserves swear an oath to protect and defend the Constitution.
George Washington’s farewell speech given in the Old Senate Chamber on December 23, 1783 resigning his commission as commander-in-chief of the Continental Army, established the principle of the United States military being subservient to the civilian authority, and is one of the most important documents in U.S. history:
“Mr. President,
“The great events on which my resignation depended, having at length taken place, I have now the honor of offering my sincere congratulations to Congress, and of presenting myself before them, to surrender into their hands the trust committed to me, and to claim the indulgence of retiring from the service of my country.
“Happy in the confirmation of our independence and sovereignty, and pleased with the opportunity afforded the United States of becoming a respectable nation, I resign with satisfaction the appointment I accepted with diffidence; a diffidence in my abilities to accomplish so arduous a task, which however was superseded by a confidence in the rectitude of our cause, the support of the supreme power of the union, and the patronage of heaven.”
George Washington, appointed as commander-in-chief, very clearly states that he surrendered into the hands of Congress, as the duly elected representatives of We The People, not just the military power, but also entrusted Congress with the “independence and sovereignity” of the new American nation that the military had been tasked with during the War of Independence from Britain, and won with their patriot blood.
Both the Congress and the civilian Executive of that representative Congress are now dismally failing in this great trust of preserving this country’s “independence and sovereignity,” and keeping it clear from any and all domestic enemies and foreign occupation, which the military, in the person of the Commander-in-Chief, George Washington, originally handed over.
We are under the yoke of the usurping Zionist Occupied Government in all three constitutional branches of government which is headquarted in Tel Aviv.
The civilian authorities that the military is subservient to, are foreign agents, treasonous duo-citizens, and apostate nominal Christian Zionist fellow-travelers, whose entire allegience and loyalty is to the State of Israel, and it’s politically defined global networks of Zionist Nationalism and subsidiary national Zionist Federations in every country, and its affiliated Jewish and Gentile organizations.
The military is subservient to the civilian government. Additionally, the oath taken swears obedience to the officers appointed above them, and to the President of the United States. Each member of the military is also charged with being directly responsible to civilian authority in the person of the military.
At no time in US history has the military risen up to attempt a coup of the civilian government. The strength behind this lies in the time honored American tradition that, regardless of personal beliefs, each member of the military supports the idea of having civilian leadership.
However, the way I kind of see the situation is that the US Armed Forces are, in fact, ultimately in submission and obedient to a foreign civilian leadership (Zionist Occupied Government) representing and acting solely in the interests of a rogue foreign state government, which doesn’t even yet have a constitution of its own.
Under those circumstances, would a military coup actually be a coup, in that its not overthrowing the Constitutional government, but is the effort to restore the government to American citizens, and assure “the independence and sovereignity” of the United States free from foreign occupation?
Chatting with AuManAJ -- Fubar, 09:44:56 05/04/12 Fri
I am still waiting for you to address the facts. As a zionazi you hide behind your CHOSEN status and tell the rest of us what to think. Thanks for not discussing the facts. You have proven my point!
the jewish and muslim religions are soaked in blood. -- WIFFO, 09:43:52 05/04/12 Fri
Jesus, his first son we are told, was murdered by the jews, his death was demanded by his "father", and he was left to die alone in tortured agony....
"Father oh Father, why have you forsaken me"..were his final words.
The father is our father also.....a bloodthirsty monster, who first demanded sacrifice from Cain and Abel. Only the blood sacrifice of Abel was enough to satisfy him, and for that he condemned Cain. Then he demanded Issac murder his first born son, but relented after he saw that the guy was actually going to go through with it. He led Moses around the dessert in Sinai for 40 years to the "promised land"
and denied him to ever see that which he had devoted his life to.
We are the sons and daughters of this brutal god, and we must return to him or escape his grasp.
Jesus once said.."Ye must be reborn!"
No one here knows what the fuck he was trying to tell us...anyone?
Fubar-What good would it do to shoot you -- Fubar, 09:42:28 05/04/12 Fri
I love that quote. Just like a zionazi to assume he has the power to shoot me! Donot worry though, the zionazi in you still wants to control my breeding. lololol
By the way, we are still waiting for you to address the facts.
Psycho anti religious -- Fubar, 09:39:17 05/04/12 Fri
I notice small minds go directly for the jugular. Yet, you offer no discussion of the facts. The three greatest killers and slavers in the history of the world are judaism, RC catholics and islam. Religion is not the work of gods. It is the work of demented human beings.
For your education anti is an english world that means instead of. I want a free future instead of a semitic, catholic or islamic one.Freemen understand that these religions are antihuman being.
No link .... Dow futs off 163 in 2 days...so far... -- Gurk, 09:33:51 05/04/12 Fri
Word among equity traders ahead of the jobs report was that last-minute expectations--the so-called whisper number--were shy of the consensus for 168K additional jobs. That may be partly why stock futures haven't been dented more by the big miss at 115K. Goldman Sachs put out a note Thursday saying it expected 125K while JPMorgan made the case for 145K. While not on the money, they were at least on the right track. Investors who listen to the whisper number get burned sometimes--as in the case of a rumor about China's 1Q GDP release last month. Not this time. ...
It is nothing more than a fiefdom of the Rothschilds and their International Banker allies. An extension of their lust for power.
Your (and my) ultimate enemy resides in Grand Estates in the South of England, and in France, and perhaps also Austria. They also have a fortress Villa on the island of Corfu. They are headquartered in Basel, Switzerland; headquarters of the Bank for International Settlements.
The State of Israel is so named because, unbeknown to 98% of all Americans, it is part of you!!
According to those who administer Admiralty Law over the USA, the State of Israel is the 51st State. This is why President Truman was obliged to recognize its official creation in 1948 with unseemly haste.
This is also why so much of your tax monies are routinely siphoned off and sent to Tel Aviv. You should already know your tax dollars soon head offshore following collection.
This hidden relationship also explains why the State of Israel has so often ignored UN Security Council Resolutions, without consequences. It is because Israel belongs to the Rothschilds, and the Rothschilds + their Allies ordered the setting up, first of the League of Nations, and then the United Nations.
To complete this corrupt circle you have to realize that the USA was declared bankrupt in 1934, by FDR, which led to the confiscation of your Gold and the implementation of the so-called “New Deal”.
That gold ended up in Fort Knox (that was why it was built) but the Gold was then secreted to London, Vienna, and Switzerland sometime after Eisenhower ordered the last audit of Fort Knox, in 1953. It now sits in vaults owned by the Rothschild cabal.
The International Jewish Bankers now own (outright) England, Israel, the United States, Canada, Germany, and (probably) Australia also.
Take a close look at the symbolism woven into the fabric of Israel’s Supreme Court, just across from the Knesset. Both these buildings by the way were built with Rothschild money. http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1229
Israel is not a country. It is an uber-criminal’s fiefdom."
AuManAJ -- Fubar, 09:23:59 05/04/12 Fri
Aren't jews like you supposed to be smart.
You still have not addressed the facts.
I see that zionazi in you still wants to control my breeding. Could it be the holocaust killer mentality in you is jewish? We in Amerika are waking up to the religious psychopath known as judaism!!! That is what upsets you!
Keep up the insults. The lack of intelligence in you is obvious!
Fubar, what good would it do to shoot you? -- AuManAJ, 09:21:58 05/04/12 Fri
Judging by the old saying, "What you don't
know can't hurt you," you're practically
invulnerable.
You take the 34 on the SS Liberty. Should not they be proud to die for the chosen jew when he stole the arab land in 1967?It is an honor to be shot in the back-unarmed- for the chosen one. The jew is so open that to this day they never investigated the bombing of the SS Liberty.
We in Amerika are so happy to die for the jew!Just let me know where you want to shoot me in the back next.
one of the monk mozel, a reveared psychic and fotune teller. -- WIFFO, 09:16:45 05/04/12 Fri
however the picture is said to be the face of Bhuddah, as revealed to this person and painted from memory of the vision. Visions are usually very powerful so it is likely that this picture is a real likeness. Personally, I feel it has a certain power, do you get anything when you concentrate on it?
Fubar, a very appropriate name for you -- AuManAJ, 09:15:26 05/04/12 Fri
It seems a half-wit gave you a piece of his mind,
and you held on to it.
IF you can find someone (other than Rosy Left
or Right) willing to have sex with you, have
at it; I'm just requesting you spare the
world and use birth control.
Jewish diversion -- Fubar, 09:08:21 05/04/12 Fri
Did you notice that lack of clarity on AumanJ's part? Donot address the facts but bring up false facts to cloud the situation.Deflect and lie. Jewish lies have been around for thousands of years.
AuManJ-Why can I not have free speech? Are you the zionazi afraid?
Use birth control -- Fubar, 09:04:55 05/04/12 Fri
I see jews like you determine if we have sex. I noticed you did not address the facts. The jew hate in you is very apparent.
LET MY PEOPLE GO!
SEND THE JEW TO FIGHT THE JEW WARS!!!!
I'll settle for free speech and the right to print my own currency.
It was the Jews who gave small pox infected blankets to the Indians,
caused the Irish potato famine, sank the Maine, Lusitania, and Titanic,
and blew up the Hindenburg, Challenger, and Chernobyl.
And didn't you know? Joseph Kony is really a Jew in black-face,
Fubar, anyone who told you to just be yourself couldn't have given you worse advice.
Learn from your parents' mistakes - use birth control!
Caper @ tobacco... -- WIFFO, 08:16:52 05/04/12 Fri
if you go a few kms from my house, you turn into "tobacco road". I can't be fucked growing the stuff cause it's so cheap. 10 baht will get you three fat cigarettes a day for the whole month. Thats about 30 cents. And it's the stuff you pass out on, if you are a light smoker, really strong and pure. Not to bad on the taste either.
Jews and deference -- Fubar, 08:11:02 05/04/12 Fri
Judaism has become an international mafia. No god here, just a bunch of religious psychopaths.Do you want to know how to get kicked off the internet?
Just highlight their history:
1.Made free speech hate speech
2. Stole our right to print our currency
3. Stole our nuclear secrets and then sold them to our enemy
4. Brutally and cowardly murdered the 34 on SS Liberty
5.The greatest slaver in American history. 50-60% of the slaves is US from jewish ships based ou8t of Boston and NYC
6.911- All you need to know is Mosad's philosophy-We wage war by deception!
7. The latest form of jewish slavery is the United Nations.Everybody notices how the jew developed UN kisses the ass of the jews.It is so appropriate that a zionazi like Soros is the poster boy for Judaism.A man with the integrity to sell out his own to the nazis speaks volume about the "heart and soul" of judaism.
8. The Lavon affair
LET my people go!!!
Send the jew to fight the jew wars. I'll settle for my free speech and the right to not be a jew!!!!
No johnny, Gurk can't be -- AuManAJ, 07:58:31 05/04/12 Fri
the unimaginative, witless, unintelligent, "dumbest person here"...
He does the thinking of three men: Moe, Larry, and Curly.
your insults never change..
no imagination no wit and no intelligence
you hate everyone because youre the dumbest person here
if they give you a lobotomy (which is in the cards)
no one will be able to tell the difference
Another good day on the aussie market. -- normandyrevulsion (), 03:31:57 05/04/12 Fri
Link energy hit a new 52 year low at 1.01, but fortunately Resolute had some strong buying late and bounced strongly off the low.
RSG close $1.615 $-0.095 (-5.56%)
Bid ($) 161.5
Offer ($) 162
High ($) 168.5
Low ($) 161
Volume 8,164,354
Trades 1,516
Value ($) 13,389,028
Open ($) 1.685
Previous Close ($) 1.710
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Another disease solved. Damn I am good. -- b_w, 03:13:06 05/04/12 Fri
I absolutely have cancer nailed.
Another disease solved. Damn I am good. -- b_w, 03:09:46 05/04/12 Fri
Here is my theory on pertussis. It is based on epidemiology, human physiology and good old sweet pure LOGIC.
What do we know
o Almost all mothers tested have NO detectable vitamin D in their mothers milk
o We can therefore assume almost all newborns have NO vitamin D in their rapidly developing bodies.
o Vitamin D is absolutely CRITICAL for preborns and new newborns
o Most newborns are under extreme vitamin D deficiency stress.
o Vitamin D is absolutely critical to defend against lung infections
o Most pertussis deaths are the under six month of age group.
o Pertussis is an infection of the lungs
So you tell me what do these babies need “vaccinations” of vitamin D?
All you pediatricians, do you test your newborns for a vitamin D level of 60 ng/ml? Do you replete your newborns to 60 ng/ml. Do you find pertussis in your vitamin D repleted newborns? Do you find lung problems in your vitamin D repleted newborns? Do you find seasonal flu problems in your vitamin D repleted newborns?
Now that we have solved the pertussis problem pick up a physiology book and find out how the newborn's brain uses vitamin D and how a lack of vitamin D is undoubtedly a factor in autism as is “vaccination”.
Indochine Intercepts Very High Grade Gold and Silver at Mt Kare, PNG -- AuManAJ -- b_w, 03:04:25 05/04/12 Fri
Yeah just watch out for those helicopter rides! Hint, tightening the seat belt will not help.
Case Spotlights Tanning Bed Dangers for Minors -- b_w, 02:59:09 05/04/12 Fri
When I was ten years old on the opening day of swimming season I decided I would quickly get my tan by staying all day at the swimming pool.
BIG mistake. One I have never repeated.
Too much of a good thing is a BAD thing.
The risk of melanoma is proven to be lessened by sun exposure.
"Tanning beds emit mainly UVA rays which penetrate deep into the skin where they damage connective tissue and suppress the immune system." True you want a tanning bed with > 5% UVB and exposure less than burn producing.
Used correctly tanning beds can be salubrious IMO.
Could the Pit Meister really believe he could disappoint me -- mozel, 02:49:47 05/04/12 Fri
by choosing a Jewish doctor for his chemotherapy ? I hope he will not be disappointed to learn he is not that important to me, though, of course, I wish him well.
If The Jews don't receive the deference and obeisance -- mozel, 02:27:00 05/04/12 Fri
which they are trained to believe they deserve, they get awfully nasty, don't they ? They so resent having themselves and their doings exposed. We are supposed, in their minds, to look away from their criminal activities, to cover them with self-enforced ignorance. Jew is a multi-generational criminal conspiracy to defraud the gentiles and destroy the Christians among them.
a classic -- johnny, 02:09:37 05/04/12 Fri
"Gurk, I'd truly like to see things from your point of view
but I can't seem to get my head that far up my ass"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
gurks secret is that he is completely crazy and in a home for nutjobs.. he is uneducated with an iq of 85. he is best
ignored
Enjoyed our little chat, but must leave now.
You can keep talking, I'm sure by the time I get back
you'll say something mozel may find intelligent!
Too bad stupidity isn't painful.
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--for Caper -- Winston, 00:27:56 05/04/12 Fri
Light jogging just once a week can add about six years to your life expectancy, according to a recent study, the Daily Mail reports.
Krugman speaks out -- WIFFO, 00:12:02 05/04/12 Fri
the world needs stimulus not austerity plans in this time of historically low interest rates. Anyway how can you pay off a debt with high unemployment?
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"The debate has split policy makers, investors and academics alike as Europe pursued a cocktail of tax increases and spending cuts to beat a sovereign debt crisis that raged from Greece through Ireland and Portugal to the very heart of the single currency bloc.
In a camp that boasts fellow Nobel winner Joseph Stiglitz and former U.S. Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers, Krugman’s voice has been loudest in warning that deploying austerity in a slump is self-defeating as it deepens the economic pain and can generate even higher debt. For pulpits, the 59-year-old Princeton University professor has a regular New York Times op- ed and blog. A book, “End This Depression Now!” was published this week and is already among the bestsellers on Amazon.com Inc.’s U.S. website. "
Disappointed,
Discouraged,
Frustrated,
Saddened,
But mostly Disgusted.
I've been reading, learning and profiting from this board and previous incarnations going back to the pre 2000 Kitco days.
Too bad it's always over taken by the mozels and Gurks of the world who so love to set aside a little time from their oh so busy lives to humiliate themselves in public.
You know. The ones who would be out of their depth
in a parking lot puddle. I don't know what makes you guys so
stupid, but I have to hand it to you... it really works!
Gurk, I'd truly like to see things from your point of view
but I can't seem to get my head that far up my ass.
@ "Gurk, (or is it spelled Jerk?) -- AuManAJ, 23:26" -- Gurk, 23:37:08 05/03/12 Thu
Axually, I think I'm going to ignore this
AuMonAJFEDD wotever angry little Netanyahoo...
paging dr. b_w @ shine sun -- Bullishonbronze, 19:17:36 05/03/12 Thu -- zygoat, 23:18:21 05/03/12 Thu
after watching that clip it is obvious that woman is crazy
FB continued -- Miniminer, 23:08:18 05/03/12 Thu
i did see some sweet cars and boats on there though and also i was impressed at the successful potheads of yesteryear....but still, the fuckin car goes the same places as my junkers do, so they got a car and i got a car.
FB ipo -- Miniminer, 23:03:31 05/03/12 Thu
yeah, that mania has already run its course...I see very little excitement after the initial rush of seeing all the people that we used to know and realize they are all the same....i tried to tell my people about the stuff i know and they post links about how your supposed to treat your aunt......people are clueless about the stuff we learned here on kitco and voy years and years ago.
skys@doom -- Miniminer, 22:57:34 05/03/12 Thu
we watched a doomsday clip that said you may need to have 30yrs of stored foods until the earth would be stable enough to return to natural growth and replenishment of food source....kind of brings prepping into another realm
This company of nothing will return to nothing...from whence it came.. -- AZAU, 22:54:56 05/03/12 Thu
Facebook plans to raise $10.6 billion in mega IPO
ReutersReuters – 1 hour 3 minutes ago
Facebook Vice President of Product Chris Cox delivers a keynote address at Facebook's "fMC" global event for marketers in New York City in this February 29, 2012 file photograph.REUTERS/Mike Segar/FilesView Photo
Facebook Vice President of Product Chris Cox delivers a keynote address at Facebook's "fMC" global event for marketers in New York City in this February 29, 2012 file photograph.REUTERS/Mike Segar/Files
Fantasy Finance
By Alexei Oreskovic and Alistair Barr
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Facebook Inc aims to raise about $10.6 billion in Silicon Valley's largest IPO, dwarfing the coming-out parties of tech companies like Google Inc and granting the world's largest social network a market value close to Amazon.com's.
The eight-year-old social network that began as Mark Zuckerberg's Harvard dorm room project indicated an initial public offering price range of between $28 and $35 a share on Thursday, which would value the company at $77 billion to $96 billion.
The size of the IPO reflects the company's growth and bullish expectations about its money-making potential as a hub for everything from advertising to commerce.
"We certainly haven't ever seen a tech IPO on this grandiose a scale," said Lise Buyer, a principal with the IPO advisory firm Class V Group.
Buyer, who worked on Google's 2004 IPO, said the question about a company "that's already this big and that is raising this much money is how many of the glory days of growth are in the past versus how many are ahead."
Facebook stands to raise as much as $12 billion at the upper end of its planned range. If an over-allotment or "greenshoe" option is triggered, the company could sweep up a maximum of $13.6 billion, according to a Thursday prospectus.
Facebook is only getting about half, or $5.6 billion, of the estimated $10.6 billion that it would raise at the midpoint of its planned IPO range. About $4.9 billon will go to some existing shareholders.
Facebook's stock could begin trading as soon as May 18, according to a road show schedule obtained by Reuters. The offering's price range can be adjusted depending on Wall Street's response during the road show.
Investors are expected to flock to the highly anticipated IPO, although there have been growing concerns about the social network's longer-term growth and Zuckerberg's majority control.
Facebook will trade at 13 to 16 times the revenue that GreenCrest Capital analyst Max Wolff believes it will generate this year. By comparison, Google, the world's dominant Internet search engine, currently trades at 5.5 to 6 times expected 2012 revenue, he said.
Google's valuation was higher when it went public in 2004, though Facebook's IPO valuation is still higher than Google's was back then, Wolff noted.
But some observers said the rich premium was unlikely to deter investors.
"People are going to be very comfortable with this valuation," said Sam Schwerin of Millennium Technology Value Partners, which owns Facebook shares worth roughly $200 million. The firm is not selling in the IPO.
"A price range of $28 to $35 will be a relief to some people who are concerned that they may try to take the highest possible price because of high demand," he said.
"The amount being raised is noteworthy. Selling stockholders are raising about $5 billion in the IPO, which is a lot."
Facebook executives are due to hit the road on Monday, presenting their investment case to audiences. They will start in New York, go to other major cities such as Chicago and Boston, and end up on Facebook's home turf in Menlo Park, California, according to the schedule.
Zuckerberg is expected to participate in the two-week road show, a source has said, although Chief Operating Officer Sheryl Sandberg and Finance Chief David Ebersman will lead the briefings.
TANTALIZING WALL STREET
Zuckerberg's involvement in the road show will be key for investors with concerns about Facebook's long-term strategy and money-making potential, said Brian Wieser, an analyst with Pivotal Research Group.
Zuckerberg's control of the company -- which was underscored when he orchestrated the $1 billion acquisition of mobile app maker Instagram last month -- means that investors need to "get comfortable" with the 27-year-old CEO, said Wieser.
Last week, Facebook reported its first quarter-to-quarter revenue slide in at least two years, a sign that the social network's sizzling growth may be cooling just as it prepares to go public. Some observers have also flagged the company's lack of revenue on mobile devices such as smartphones as an area of concern.
Dressed in a gray t-shirt and jeans, the copper-haired Zuckerberg appeared in a 31-minute road show video posted online on Thursday. In the video, Zuckerberg predicted that in five years almost every software app would be integrated with Facebook.
Facebook generated the lion's share of its $3.7 billion in revenue last year from online advertising. It also collects fees when consumers use its special Credits currency to purchase virtual goods in social games such as Zynga's Farmville. The company has said it may expand the use of its payment business beyond games.
Facebook, which plans to list its stock on the Nasdaq under the ticker "FB", has long tantalized investors with the prospect of a mega IPO.
As a private company, shares of Facebook have traded briskly in secondary markets for the past couple of years, as investors sought to get a piece of the fast-growing company ahead of its expected IPO.
The IPO price range indicated in Facebook's filing on Thursday would value the company a hair below the level it has traded at in the secondary markets in recent months, with some trades valuing the company at slightly more than $100 billion.
But some investors think Facebook, which touts 900 million users worldwide, is setting itself a fairly conservative target.
"The price range may be tactical. They will likely walk the range up," Schwerin argued.
Facebook plans to sell 337.4 million shares, or 12.3 percent of the company, in the offering. The capital-raising target far outstrips big Internet IPOs that came before it. Google raised just shy of $2 billion in 2004, while last year Groupon tapped investors for $700 million and Zynga raked in $1 billion.
At the top end of the IPO range, Facebook would rival the market value of Amazon.com and Cisco Systems Inc, which are worth just over $100 billion, and surpass the combined market value of older technology companies Hewlett-Packard Co and Dell Inc.
Among existing shareholders, the largest seller in the IPO will be venture capital firm Accel Partners, which will make about $1.2 billion assuming the shares sell at the $31.5 mid-point. Zuckerberg is selling the next largest chunk of shares, worth a little under $1 billion.
Facebook said that a "substantial majority" of the proceeds from Zuckerberg's stock sale will be used to satisfy taxes he will incur from exercising his options.
In its prospectus, Facebook said the "lock-up" period, during which employees cannot sell shares after the IPO, would range from 151 days to 181 days.
Facebook also added two new underwriters, including online broker E*Trade Securities. The broker caters to retail clients who some have speculated may try to pile into the IPO.
"No doubt Facebook doesn't want to upset the average mom and pop out there," said Craig Huber, research analyst, at independent research firm Huber Research Partners.
(Writing By Edwin Chan, additional reporting by Poornima Gupta, Gerry Shih and Sarah McBride in San Francisco and Olivia Oran in New York; Editing by Gerald E. McCormick, Bernadette Baum, Matthew Lewis and Richard Pullin)
sing it loud BOS -- Miniminer, 22:49:00 05/03/12 Thu
Bob -- aloon, 20:10:27 05/03/12 Thu -- Bullishonbronze (), 20:14:49 05/03/12 Thu
because I knows where I came from.
Things the mainstream media just won't cover anymore..... -- AZAU, 22:45:59 05/03/12 Thu
Spain’s BBVA bank acquires Guaranty Financial Texas bank
barcelonareporter.com 3 May 2012
BBVA, the Spanish bank, on Friday succeeded in its acquisition of Guaranty Financial, a struggling Texas bank with $13.5bn in assets, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation said.
Spain’s BBVA bank acquires Guaranty Financial Texas bank
Banco Bilbao Vizcaya Argentaria SA, Spain’s second-biggest bank, took over Guaranty Financial Group Inc. of Texas, the first foreign company to buy a failed U.S. bank this year as the toll of seized lenders climbed to 81.
Branches of Guaranty in Texas and California tomorrow will become offices of Birmingham, Alabama-based BBVA Compass, the U.S. affiliate of the Spanish bank, in a transaction brokered by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., the regulator said today. State and federal regulators also closed two banks in Georgia and a 10-branch lender in Alabama.
Guaranty had $13.5 billion in assets and $12 billion in deposits and “was in an unsafe and unsound condition because of the deteriorating quality of its loan portfolio, critically deficient earnings, capital insolvency and strained liquidity position,” the Office of Thrift Supervision, the lender’s regulator, said in a statement.
The collapse is the 11th biggest U.S. bank failure as regulators close lenders at the fastest pace since 1992. Of banks seized this year, three had assets exceeding $10 billion: Guaranty, Alabama’s Colonial BancGroup Inc., seized Aug. 14, and Florida’s BankUnited Financial Corp., closed May 21. BB&T Corp. bought Colonial and private-equity firms bought BankUnited.
BBVA will assume Austin-based Guaranty’s deposits and about $12 billion in assets, the FDIC said in a statement. BBVA and the FDIC entered into a loss-sharing agreement on about $11 billion of those assets.
Te failure will cost the FDIC’s deposit fund $3 billion, the agency said. The fund, which pays customers of a failed bank for deposit losses up to $250,000 and is generated by fees on banks, had $13 billion at the end of the first quarter, according to the FDIC.
BBVA Expansion
BBVA said adding Guaranty’s assets and deposits will create the 15th biggest U.S. commercial bank, with $49 billion in deposits and more than 750 branches in Alabama, Arizona, California, Florida, Colorado, New Mexico and Texas. BBVA will be the fourth-largest Texas bank, the company said.
“This transaction further demonstrates the BBVA Group’s clear commitment in building its U.S. franchise,” Jose Maria Garcia Meyer, chairman of BBVA Compass said in a statement.
BBVA is diversifying beyond the recession-hit economies of Spain and Mexico, which account for more than two-thirds of its profit. The Spanish bank completed a $9 billion purchase of Alabama’s Compass Bancshares Inc., the biggest acquisition in its 152-year history, in 2007, adding to a string of acquisitions in the southern U.S. that began with the purchase of Valley Bank in California in 2004.
Compass helped BBVA to build up a Sunbelt franchise of about 600 branches and assets approaching $7 billion, FDIC data showed.
Banco Santander Model
By snapping up cheap assets, BBVA is following the strategy of Banco Santander SA, Spain’s biggest bank, which bought hobbled lenders such as Alliance & Leicester in the U.K. and Philadelphia-based Sovereign Bancorp Inc.
BBVA’s debt rating was cut to Aa2 from Aa1 by Moody’s Investors Service on July 30 citing concerns about the prospect of mounting loan defaults in Spain, Mexico and the U.S. BBVA’s U.S. business in the first half earned 85 million euros ($120.4 million) of the bank’s group 2.8 billion euro profit.
BBVA President and Chief Operating Officer Jose Ignacio Goirigolzarri said last month the bank would look at opportunities that may arise from reorganizing the U.S. bank industry.
Any acquisition would “not be very significant from an allocation of capital point of view,” Goirigolzarri said. BBVA closed the first half with a core capital ratio of 6.9 percent compared with Santander’s 7.5 percent.
Austin-based Guaranty said last month that it was unable to raise capital as demanded by regulators. The OTS had taken over board functions and was pursuing transactions likely to wipe out shareholders, Guaranty said in a July 23 filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
3 Banks Fail
In other failures announced by regulators:
-- Iberiabank in Lafayette, Louisiana, will take over CapitalSouth Bank of Birmingham, Alabama, which had $546 million of deposits. Iberiabank and the FDIC entered into a loss-sharing agreement on about $499 million of $617 million of assets.
-- United Bank of Zebulon, Georgia, took over First Coweta of Newnan, which had $155 million of deposits. United will pay a premium to the FDIC for the deposits and share losses on about $124 million of $167 million of assets.
-- Stearns Bank of St. Cloud, Minnesota, assumed Atlanta- based ebank’s deposits of $111 million. The FDIC and Stearns will share losses on $111 million of ebank’s $143 million in total assets. Ebank, an Internet bank, had a single office.
Stearns on Aug. 7 acquired assets of two Florida lenders, First State Bank and Community National Bank, and in June agreed to take over assets of Horizon Bank of Pine City, Minnesota, all closed by regulators.
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You have no choice: these too big to fail banks will continue this strategy until something stops them.
Check those grades !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Gurk, 20:17:27 05/03/12 Thu -- zygoat, 21:58:53 05/03/12 Thu
wow, impressive...approaching the grades of gold found he these here puters
@ "Indochine Intercepts Very High Grade Gold and Silver at Mt Kare, PNG -- AuManAJ -- Gurk, 21:41:57 05/03/12 Thu
Remind me not to leave out tidbits for juice again...
I had that bitch a while back she won't do anal -- mackcheed, 21:32:33 05/03/12 Thu
won't gargle and refuses to swallow. Those big tits just get in the way and makes me do marine style push-ups.
Hey Normy interesting stuff I am going to do some reading and get back to ya. Crazy thesis but mack brain food.
On the road for now coast to coast. See ya wouldnt want to be any of you. Skinny Hog or Palm?
17.7 metres(m) at 100.3 grams/tonne(g/t) gold, 134 g/t silver from 59m, including
4 m at 420 g/t gold, 170 g/t silver from 67m, (Drillhole 122SD11; twinned hole);
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oh nice, this was the stock I mentioned to Wiffo... Far out ! -- Gurk, 20:13:13 05/03/12 Thu
Early tis week. Now in trading halt with nice bids..
17.7 metres(m) at 100.3 grams/tonne(g/t) gold, 134 g/t silver from 59m, including
4 m at 420 g/t gold, 170 g/t silver from 67m, (Drillhole 122SD11; twinned hole);
in comparison to prior results of 34m at 7.2g/t gold in MK98‐132
27 m at 3.1 g/t gold, 4.3 g/t silver from 77m, including
7 m at 6.5 g/t gold, 7.8 g/t silver from 85m, (Drillhole 125SD12; new hole);
16.9 m at 3.9 g/t gold, 20g/t silver from 19.1 g/t, including
8 m at 7.5 g/t gold, 21 g/t silver from 26m, and including
1 m at 50g/t gold, (Drillhole 127SD12; new hole).
appologize if a repost -- Jasper, 19:39:07 05/03/12 Thu -- Bullishonbronze, 20:11:31 05/03/12 Thu
Cap'n Gurk wouldn't have apologized. And by the next morning the ladies would each have one of his XXL t-shirts.
sit in a chair and come to an awareness of your mind and body--its idea content, exteroception and proprioception--all senses. Attend to full consciousness, immediacy.
if we say this is your sphere of awareness, imagine that that sphere could be much enlarged. Not simply by inputing more idea content, but by systematically having both more range, acuity and all dimensional depth--viz. capacity.
we are sure this is possible, for this happens with the enlargement of consciousness as comes maturity. It happens as sure as one normally develops before and beyond puberty and again into adulthood. And again later.
One's sphere of awareness is contingent--not merely the obvious transient content contingency (i.e., the ephemeral nature of ideas, mood, experience, etc.)--also rather, systematically contingent (the whole way you are possibly).
Acceptance of this brings humility to one's daily life inasmuch as one realizes what one is immediately certain of is always circumscribed and not at liberty, unbounded. Humility mitigates ego, which is the guardian of the sphere; it opens possibility, an opportunity for enlargement of one's sphere. Humility is how it begins. It continues with the acceptance of the hypothesis that there can be more enlargement.
Perhaps to become enlightened is to be lighted of the small sphere and enlarged. This rather than to come to anything in particular.
& etc.
For no one pours new wine into old wineskins. Otherwise, the wine will burst the skins, and both the wine and the wineskins will be ruined. No, they pour new wine into new wineskins.” - Mk 2:22
Nobody thinks of themselves as sexy, really. Some days you go, 'Hey, I'm not going too bad today.' But if you try and be sexy, you'll never be sexy. - Jennifer Aniston
appologize if a repost -- Jasper, 19:39:07 05/03/12 Thu
I was in a pub on Saturday night. Had a few....
I noticed two large women by the bar.
They both had strong accents so I asked, "Hey, are
you two ladies from Scotland ?"
One of them chirped: "It's WALES you friggin' idiot!"
So, I immediately apologized and said..., "Sorry, are
you two whales from Scotland ?"
That's the last thing I remember...
since $IRX hasn't moved that much, and if it don't move down more; and if SMkt persists downwardly, then this time it might be something other than liquidity that is a'hand. And what that something is is something that nobody has been talking about.
Carmack, 11:34:37 05/03/12 Thu... -- schilling, 19:00:00 05/03/12 Thu -- Bullishonbronze, 19:19:05 05/03/12 Thu
all boobs are nice. And we are fortunate to have them what with PMs drooping.
Your spiritual condition is all you got to worry about -- MichaelH, 18:31:33 05/03/12 Thu
Am I worried about a police state? Hah, from fakes when the lords of karma are in charge? They got to worry, not me.
mozel never hesitates to speak his mind because he has nothing to lose. -- AuManAJ, 18:08:59 05/03/12 Thu
Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at birth?
mozel, of course... -- AuManAJ, 17:58:33 05/03/12 Thu
A Tax Official has come to a rural synagogue for an inspection. Rabbi Gold is accompanying him.
"So rabbi, tell me, please, after you have distributed all your unleavened bread, what do you do with the crumbs?"
"Why, we gather them carefully and send them to the city and then they make bread of them again and send it to us."
"Ah. So what about candles after they are burnt? What do you do with the ends?" "We send them to the city as well, and they make new candles from them and send them to us."
"And what about circumcision? What do you do with those leftover pieces?" The rabbi, wearily, replies, "We send them to the city as well." "To the city? And when you do this, what do they send to you?"
"Why, a mozel, of course"
The fundamental difference between this forum and the Pit -- mozel, 17:14:55 05/03/12 Thu
is The Jews can be exposed here freely.
The Jews have lost all legitimacy in the eyes of educated opinion. They have been thoroughly exposed as habitual, inveterate suppressors of truth and promoters of falsehood to further nothing but their exclusive self interest. Everything about State of Israel is a deception. Everything Jewish is a falsehood, ersatz, an exploitation of old things from far away that lost their authenticity and legitimacy centuries ago. People who agree to share forum space with The Jews have no self respect. Their standard ploy is to gain agreement that it's not just The Jews that are conspiring against mankind. Once that concession is obtained, further mention of The Jews is discouraged, if not forbidden. It's all politics of the crummiest sort. That's all there is to Jewry. Jews hate noble action and nobility. That hatred motivates their incessant promotion of materiality. It parallels their hatred of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.
updates -- trotsky, 15:08:35 05/03/12 Thu
Euro Area - Worsening Contraction Amid Faltering Credit Growth - Is Credit Dirigisme Far Off?
This week the euro are manufacturing PMI confirmed the worst fears from the previous flash PMI releases: the euro area is back in a full-blown recession, with the 'core' catching up to the periphery at astonishing speed now. Germany's manufacturing PMI at a 33 month low was quite the shocker, even though we were forewarned. Essentially all of Europe is back to where it was in the summer of 2009. This is no surprise, as the ECB's and the BoE's monetary pumping exercises have this time utterly failed to pump up the money supply. Both the euro area and the UK have seen their true money supply contract lately, so there simply is no moolah for renewed bubble activities. While this is actually a good thing, the whole world wants the impossible: a painless bubble aftermath - something that numerous prominent charlatans in the economics profession assert is possible.
Of course the idea to battle a credit collapse by adding even more credit atop the heap is not exactly new. It has never worked, and yet, still everybody seems to believe in the fairy tale that we can get something from nothing.
Since the ECB is now 'worried' that its LTRO's failed to spur any credit creation and that no new money is therefore reaching the 'real economy' and we're on the cusp of getting a president in France who's completely wedded to interventionism, one wonders whether credit dirigisme comes next.
This is not too far-fetched an idea. For instance, Hugh Hendry thinks that the French banks will eventually have to be nationalized, in which case credit dirigisme would become a certainty. But even if the banks are only 'helped' by state funding or state guarantees the government will likely want to gain influence over credit policy in return. That would be akin to jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
Also: J.C. Juncker quits and apparently wants to take revenge on Wolfgang Schäuble by recommending him as his successor to the now vacant post of euro-group chief. http://www.acting-man.com/?p=16676
Madness in Spain, plus Credit Market Charts
One would think that the biggest housing supply overhang in the world would be a good reason to stop building more houses. Not in Spain!
In a truly stunning report, Bloomberg lets us in on how busy developers in Spain still are these days with adding to the oversupply. The troubled banks are happily financing these new adventures in capital malinvestment on a grand scale. The mayor of Avila, where some of the more conspicuous construction activity is going on informs us that 'eventually all this supply will be absorbed'. Probably depends on how long term one's outlook is. If you have a few centuries....
Bloomberg also mentions the tricks Spain's banks use to artificially keep official house prices up and hide the deterioration of their assets and avoid taking losses - we have talked about this in the past, so it merely serves as confirmation. The most troubling aspect of these tricks is that they are laying the foundation for even greater losses down the road.
Also, update of a selection of the most important euro area credit market charts. http://www.acting-man.com/?p=16679
@ Now now Biz G...Tue to Thurs ' s OK. -- Gurk, 14:09:56 05/03/12 Thu
If the UE report is not good it will sink tomorrow..
Dow off 82 so far but fut's much worse..and broke
the 7 day sma...
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Date Posted: 12:50:34 05/01/12 Tue
Author: Bizarro_Greenspan
Subject: Dow breaks higher
Gurk's market rollover call looks to be askew,perhaps he missed some factors.
Carmack -- Caper -- Carmack, 14:03:51 05/03/12 Thu
But you can have her for the weather girl for a while.Bet you would get visitors(perves) many times a day. Good for the google numbers.hehe
abnormalevolution (), 03:39:53 05/03/12 Thu -- LilDevil, 11:43:17 05/03/12 Thu
.
An Youtube video by a guy named 'skidmark', is your evidence? Snicker. Is that all you got Heathen?
"...................normandyrevulsion, 08:08:12 05/03/12 Thu
God has always dealt with me as a male................."
I bet he dealt you real good, right normy?
"....God's seven Spirits are 4 females and three males....."
False testimony, utter ignorance and lies.
"...Therefore, i conclude, that God is both male and female....."
Gods a shemale and Normy likes it that way. Lolololol Whisper sweet nothings in my ear ahhhhh, Amen.
Another great reason not to own Gold -- Skinee, -- Pyrite, 11:09:50 05/03/12 Thu
YES! Those of us who own gobs of 1933 double eagles are very pissed indeed.
BullishOB -- Mikikis, 10:26:08 05/03/12 Thu
Didn't you get the memo? There are no more stock market 'crashes'....only managed declines. PPT won't let you see any 10-15% declines in one day anymore...bad for business. Circuit breakers won't come into play anytime soon.
the propagandist having trouble keeping their lies stacked -- Bullishonbronze, 10:21:47 05/03/12 Thu
ZH, now: Two days ago, the Manufcaturing ISM soared, trouncing expectations, in a very perplexing print because as the very next day we learned via ADP that manufacturing jobs dropped by 5,000 in April. Today, however, things are back to normal as the indicator that tracks the far greater component of US GDP: the Services ISM, just printed at 53.5, missing expectations of 55.3 wildly, and down from the previous print of 56.0. This was the biggest miss in 12 months, and the lowest print since December; it also printed below the lowest Wall Street forecast.
The stock now could go public at a lower price. Moreover, new uncertainty about the Menlo Park, Cal., company's growth prospects may temper some of the feeding frenzy that was expected to take place on the stock's first day of trading -- currently scheduled for May 18.
Wow norman...you realy blow me out man. -- WIFFO, 10:10:10 05/03/12 Thu
you seem to come to these conclusions in your own skull!
Have You any evidence to support your conclusions?
I' talking about a reality check.
BoB - you really excel at music -- MichaelH (), 09:42:49 05/03/12 Thu
just as Wolonchuck excels at stock market targets - but sometimes takes over a decade to reach those targets. You could be a great dj.
But everything happens this month, the good, the bad and the ugly. No long term, long run anything.
That is why one must be flexible and prepared for one after the other coming at you - balanced for all three.
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Annaly Capital Management invests primarily in mortgage pass-through certificates, CMOs, agency callable debentures, and other MBS representing interests in or obligations backed [sic.] by pools of mortgage loans.
Annaly Capital also invests in Federal Home Loan Bank, Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation, and Federal National Mortgage Association debentures.
if economics is not really a science, then maybe it is not really dismal -- MichaelH, 09:35:42 05/03/12 Thu
I like to hear a real scientist talk about economics, such as Jim Mccanney... A different view of things.
My message to you, if you want to get richer, is to forget about QE3 or QE 300,000. QE has failed, and gold revaluation is in play.
My message to you now is that QE is finished as an effective tool, and the central banks of the world have moved on to gold revaluation, with central bank buy programs. Just as few believed or understood rates to zero or QE in the beginning, few believe or understand gold revaluation now.
6. Look around the gold community. Gold revaluation is seen as a 1930s one-time event, so the current use of a somewhat quiet and gradual revaluation through central bank buy programs is generally ignored. I assure you, gold revaluation is real and happening right before your eyes, while surveys at gold $1477 show 93% of gold timers are bearish, and investors feel morbid.
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Denninger's word for remainder 2012: "confluence" -- Bullishonbronze, 09:18:16 05/03/12 Thu
n., a coming together of people or things; concourse.
economics @ MichaelH, 08:53:52 05/03/12 Thu -- Bullishonbronze, 09:07:15 05/03/12 Thu
if economics is not really a science, then maybe it is not really dismal. Maybe it just pretends to be dismal.
SMkt -- Bullishonbronze, 09:01:34 05/03/12 Thu
maybe these markets are at a point where yet there is dip-buyers, these also have a hair-trigger to exit. Hence, the sharp reaction in the $CAC this morning probably to US numbers (vis a vis QE headwind).
if so, timing a short might be complicated. If it happens, the drop might occur suddenly, swiftly and surprisingly . . . though not necessarily in that order. ; ^ )
In economics, the Phillips curve is a historical inverse relationship between the rate of unemployment and the rate of inflation in an economy. Stated simply, the lower the unemployment in an economy, the higher the rate of inflation.
The stand-off between European political leaders and financial markets grew more critical overnight, pushing Spain closer to becoming the latest victim of the eurozone’s raging debt crisis.
Austria’s finance minister, Maria Fekter, who was attending a meeting of eurozone finance ministers in Brussels, made a vain attempt to reassure investors that the situation was under control. Spain, she argued could still finance itself on capital markets even though its borrowing costs were high.
“We are watching it very closely, in terms of the financial capacity,” she said. “Spain can still get money on the capital markets, even if it’s expensive.”
But investors took little heed. Spain’s sharemarket dropped 2.6 per cent overnight, hitting its lowest level since March 2009, and bringing its total decline so far this year to 20 per cent. At the same time, Spain’s 10-year bond yields – a barometer of eurozone anxiety – climbed 8 basis points to 5.85 per cent, perilously close to the critical 6 per cent level that markets believe is the trigger-point for a bailout.
Spanish banks bore the brunt of the selling, with banking giant, Banco Santander, and Spain’s second largest bank, BBVA, both suffering share price declines of 3.3 per cent, as Moody’s Investors Service said it was finalising its review of the eurozone banks.
Last week, Standard & Poor’s cut Spain’s credit rating to BBB-plus, only three notches above junk level. On Monday, the ratings agency lowered its rating for 11 Spanish banks, including Banco Santander and BBVA, citing “potentially negative implications” from the cut in Spain’s credit rating.
Investors now believe that the combination of Spain’s rapidly deteriorating economy and higher borrowing costs means that it will be near impossible for the Spanish government to meet its ambitious deficit reduction targets, and the country will be forced to seek a bailout.
At the same time, they’re concerned that European leaders have shown little resolve in tackling Spain’s obvious financial difficulties, and instead have left it to the European Central Bank to bring down Spanish interest rates by flooding European banks with more than €1 trillion ($US1.3 trillion) in cheap money through its longer term refinancing operations. Spanish banks, which were enthusiastic participants in the LTRO program, used the money to buy Spanish bonds, which reduced Spain’s borrowing costs.
But Spanish banks are now close to running out of cash and as a result their “firepower” to buy Spanish bonds has diminished, according to a report by Royal Bank of Scotland strategists.
According to the report, Spanish banks have already spent 42.3 per cent of the cheap three-year loans they got from the European Central Bank. If the banks intend to use half of their LTRO funds to buy Spanish bonds, that means the Spanish banks only have about €16 billion left to spend. If they intend to use 65 per cent of their LTRO funds to buy bonds, the banks would have €46 billion left to spend – which translates into another 1.6 months of bond purchases for Spain.
Meanwhile, investors are also querying whether the political will of European leaders to provide a financial rescue for Spain has been frayed because LTRO has allowed foreign investors – such as French and German banks and pension funds – to dump a large portion of their Spanish bonds portfolios onto the Spanish banks.
Spanish banks now hold €263.3 billion of Spanish government bonds, a huge increase from the €177.9 billion in bonds they held last November before the LTRO program began.
This buying by the Spanish banks allowed foreign investors to reduce their exposures to Spain. According to figures from Spain’s economy ministry, foreign investors cut their holdings of Spanish bonds by €20 billion , or 9.3 per cent of their total holdings, in the month of March alone.
Investors are now deeply concerned that Europe’s leaders have learnt nothing from the horrific experiences of Greece, Ireland and Portugal, and will once again wait until the crisis overwhelms Spain before they are finally prodded into action.
Research Reveals Ancient Struggle over Holy Land Supremacy -- Gurk, 07:16:32 05/03/12 Thu
To underscore their claim, the Jewish people wove an entire biblical tale around their small, southern kingdom. According to this story, around 1000 BC the biblical King David ruled from Jerusalem over a glorious kingdom. His son Solomon allegedly built in the city a temple made of cedar, "completely overlaid with gold." According to the Bible, over 180,000 workers toiled to build it.
Total nonsense: Not a single shred of archaeological evidence has ever been found to confirm the existence of Solomon's Temple.
The goal of the deception was clear, though: Judah's priests sought to magnify the glory of their own city. And they passed up no opportunity to vilify their rivals: In the Bible the Samaritans were nearly always portrayed as unsavory characters. They were also said to be ethnically impure because their blood had supposedly been mixed with that of foreign colonialists.
The book of Ezra even recounts that these "enemies" tried to hinder the reconstruction of the destroyed Temple of Jerusalem -- out of pure envy, because they didn't have one of their own.
In reality, though, at that time, a shining divine fortress had already stood for many years on Mount Gerizim. Magen, the archaeologist, has discovered jewelry, silver, a fine cosmetics set and a small golden bell from the splendid robe of a high priest.
Never Forget Friedrich Hayek's Warning About Government Tyranny -- Gurk, 07:14:10 05/03/12 Thu
“By giving the government unlimited powers, the most arbitrary rule can be made legal; and in this way a democracy may set up the most complete despotism imaginable.”
It’s hard to ignore Hayek’s prescient warning when you hear about the US government’s newest (and 17th) spy agency that it wants to roll out… because hey, 16 spy agencies just isn’t enough.
choices -- Bullishonbronze, 05:56:04 05/03/12 Thu
Let us give the name of hypothesis to anything that may be proposed to our belief; and just as the electricians speak of live and dead wires, let us speak of any hypothesis as either live or dead. A live hypothesis is one which appeals as a real possibility to him to whom it is proposed.
. . . [D]eadness and liveness in an hypothesis are not intrinsic properties, but relations to the individual thinker. They are measured by his willingness to act. The maximum of liveness in hypothesis means willingness to act irrevocably. Practically, that means belief; but there is some believing tendency wherever there is willingness to act at all.
Next, let us call the decision between two hypotheses an option. Options may be of several kinds. They may be:
1, living or dead;
2, forced or avoidable;
3, momentous or trivial.
manchurian bot . . . programmed by communists and loosed upon the USA -- Bullishonbronze, 05:43:49 05/03/12 Thu
[Vanity Fair, c. June 2012] Genevieve’s journal-keeping started in 1975 during her final year at Emma Willard School, an academically rigorous prep school for young women in NY. Day by day, week by week, her perceptions of him became more complicated.
Thursday, January 26:
How is he so old already, at the age of 22? I have to recognize (despite play of wry and mocking smile on lips) that I find his thereness very threatening…. Distance, distance, distance, and wariness.
Saturday, February 25:
The sexual warmth is definitely there—but the rest of it has sharp edges and I’m finding it all unsettling and finding myself wanting to withdraw from it all. I have to admit that I am feeling anger at him for some reason, multi-stranded reasons. His warmth can be deceptive. Tho he speaks sweet words and can be open and trusting, there is also that coolness—and I begin to have an inkling of some things about him that could get to me.
Jr. Seau -- Bullishonbronze, 04:43:05 05/03/12 Thu qui respondens ait duae gentes in utero tuo sunt et duo populi ex ventre tuo dividentur populusque populum superabit et maior minori serviet ~ Genesis 25:21-25
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Hey Stoepkakkers collective ! -- nogtans, 03:38:36 05/03/12 Thu
Confess!
Who is the closet headmaster at this school?
Lecturer who made insulting remarks resigns
Pretoria - A primary school headmaster from Pretoria is suing a parent for an alleged libellous e-mail, it was reported on Thursday.
Johan Joubert, head of the Garsfontein Primary School, wants R450 000 from John Hempel, a parent and former member of the school's governing body, Beeld newspaper reported.
According to Joubert's court papers, Hempel sent him a libellous e-mail, copied to other members of the governing body, in which he voiced his dissatisfaction about how Joubert allegedly victimised his daughter. In the e-mail he wrote: "You're being a bully... stop carrying on like a 'stoepkakkertjie'."
This is an Afrikaans slang word, referring to a spoilt, overweight old dog that barks incessantly while refusing to move from the veranda, not even to take care of its bodily functions.
Joubert's lawyer, Gert van der Merwe, said in court papers that Hempel was attempting to damage his client's reputation and dignity, by "implying that he was incompetent, irritating and an annoyance".
Hempel, who is opposing the claim, says he didn't call Joubert a "stoepkakkertjie", but asked him to stop behaving like one."
Proximity to a market, however accomplished, results in advantage ... -- mozel, 02:29:55 05/03/12 Thu
Today's stock markets are far too complex and far away for any but a very exceptional individual to have better than random odds of a successful trade ...
ffw. 01:45 Scholes addresses question put to him about $VIX. He says there's a perception that Fed has put a floor under the market and this has encouraged people to go long. He adds, it remains to be seen . . .
He goes on to say 'derivatives are innovations for society'. They are like new kinds of cocktails providing yummy intoxication for all.
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earlier this evening I had been thinking that the SMkt now is so sophisticated that a regular guy like me has no place involved with it. Now, however, after watching this and a Hugh Hendry video, I realize how handicapped these wizards are.
-- -- Winston (), 22:53:11 05/02/12 Wed
father of science Francis Bacon. Most do not know that he ridiculed Copernicus' theory that the earth revolved around the sun. For, it is plain, that if the earth doth revolve around the sun, its speed would cause winds so fierce they would tear down every tree on earth.
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Popping up when I should be staying sleeping... -- MichaelH, 02:36:34 05/01/12 Tue
One comment about silver, I suspect we see it break $26 low, and that isn't bearish. It's a screaming buy right then and there.
Especially, and only if, it occurs right before this.
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Debbie......You have landed on the moon 43 years ago -- -- LilDevil (), 20:17:58 05/02/12 Wed
What more do you want? What more do you expect?................."
Sorry RIP, that was Neil, Buzz, Gene et al that landed on the moon NOT me. Please refer to a history text or perhaps google for more info.
"..........Pathetic teat sucker.............."
Another made-up RIP falsehood AKA a lie.
".................Near 50 million on food stamps -- RIP, 18:28:31 05/02/12 Wed
...and Debbie demands more cow bell....Pathetic........................."
Food stamps, cowbells and moon landings? WTF is he talking about now, anyone?
U R babbling again RIP. Babbling about stuff you're NOT qualified in.
IE You lack the tools and education necessary to converse intelligently and thoughtfully. Parroting and bickering notwithstanding
Stick to celebrity gossip, Entertainment Tonite and TV sitcoms. That's your one and only forte (except for muck'n OC).
Happy shoveling.
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A slow read but quite understandable and relevant considering its age. Placing ones self in the time of the author is quite helpful in understanding the authors attitudes and objectives, in this case enlightenment and progress in the face of convention and superstition.
Bacon and others from that epoch seem to be blessed with a spirit of exploration and discovery, an attitude that's sorely lacking in today's world. Obviously a brave and enlightened individual willing to challenge the status quo an enemy of stagnation. We need more like him.
-- -- , 17:36:20 05/02/12 Wed H. Hendry says VIX will go to 80 in the next downturn. -- Bullishonbronze (), 17:42:20 05/02/12 Wed
When? ..... TVIX--the candle is now a pool of wax with wee little wick and its dancing flame insufferable of the faintest whisper of QE3.
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Paul Stamets at TEDMED 2011 -- last-call, 16:10:46 05/02/12 Wed -- Bullishonbronze (), 17:18:46 05/02/12 Wed
ostensibly, from his story as he relates it, this guy was so contemptful of his mom's religiousness (he constantly mentions religion apologetically before the liberal audience that favors secular-materialism and hates Christianity: notice his eyes looking down in shame when he says she "is deeply religious and not seen a doctor since 1968" [ignoring her avoiding doctors likely kept her alive up until that ripe age!]), that he himself failed to take action, to administer turkey-tail mushrooms even though he is expert on them. While his mother was practicing acceptance, he interpreted that as naive fatalism and was incensed by it; he therefore secretly wished her unto death, for else otherwise logically he would have administered immediately the mushrooms himself.
Perhaps it could be otherwise (perhaps he was more involved in the diagnosis and prescription, but he does not indicate that. The medical doctor mentions the study and recommends taking the mushrooms!).
This man, despite all his martial arts experience & scientific capacity, failed to be manly and protect his mother. Others, namely the female doctor, had to do it.
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Aristotle, in his Eudemian Ethics, establishes what I think is a good working definition of courage. Courage, according to Aristotle, is the mean between fear and recklessness. Cowards are debilitated by excessive fear, especially of things that shouldn’t be feared. Reckless men take unnecessary risks with excessive confidence in the face of danger. The courageous man, however, strikes a balance between irrational fear and foolhardy recklessness. The courageous man fears that which should be feared, but he endures his fear with confidence for the right reason. That right reason, according to Aristotle, is for the sake of honor and nobility.
TED liberal -- Bullishonbronze (), 17:23:01 05/02/12 Wed
evidence is that so many lectures mention "climate change" as though it were a law of thermodynamics. {it is mentioned, e.g., in this video} And there is other evidence.
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Mikikis....I think you mean the steel pennies. -- RIP, 17:06:03 05/02/12 Wed
But that's besides the point.
If you try handling these plastic notes you will know what I mean.
They are trash.
And that is why Flaherty and Carney were laughing.
It's a digital whirld.
Get used to it.
Cash transactions will soon be banned.
-- -- Winston, 16:41:35 05/02/12 Wed
BP Whistleblowers, Over a Dozen of Them Assassinated, Missing Or Kidnapped in Last 2 Years...
example: January 19, 2011 - Tomas Manton, former President and CEO of the International Oil Spill Control Corporation - imprisonment and subsequent murder while jailed
RIP -- Mikikis (), 16:36:03 05/02/12 Wed
I'm not sure that I see it like that. I think that it is a simple cost basis decision to create currency in a way that lasts longer and is probably more cost effective in the long run. They are cutting costs is all. Then presenting it as something that they are doing that is for 'our' best interests.
From what I have read, they initially cost a bit more than paper to print, but last 2-5 times longer, so over time save the government money....which is very important when you are doing 10 or 100 to 1 leverage on these things through fractional reserve systems.
Same goes for when they diluted the copper in pennies and have now eliminated them.
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My point is these polymer notes are difficult to handle. -- RIP, 16:26:03 05/02/12 Wed
They are thinner than paper notes.
They stick when you want them to slide....and slide when you want them to stick.
It's the goo's way of getting the geezers to give up on cash.
The kids have done that long ago.
Polymer banknotes -- Mikikis, 16:17:27 05/02/12 Wed
Good way to combine the powerful concepts of oil and money in our world into one physical specimen. Now, at least in Canada and other nations where these are being incorporated....oil actually IS fiat currency.
"Petroleum to Plastics
The technological road from oil field to finished plastic product has numerous fascinating side trips. Here’s the route taken in the petroleum-to-plastics process:
1. Petroleum is drilled and transported to a refinery.
2. Crude oil and natural gas are refined into ethane, propane, hundreds of other petrochemical products and, of course, fuel for your car.
3. Ethane and propane are "cracked" into ethylene and propylene, using high-temperature furnaces.
4. Catalyst is combined with ethylene or propylene in a reactor, resulting in "fluff," a powdered material (polymer) resembling laundry detergent.
5. Fluff is combined with additives in a continuous blender.
6. Polymer is fed to an extruder where it is melted.
7. Melted plastic is cooled then fed to a pelletizer that cuts the product into small pellets.
8. Pellets are shipped to customers.
9. Customers manufacture plastic products by using processes such as extrusion, injection molding, blow molding, etc."
Go from plastic, to thermoplastic.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoplastic
(polypropylene)
....to biaxially-oriented polypropylene which is what these are made of.
Paul Stamets at TEDMED 2011 -- last-call, 16:10:46 05/02/12 Wed
If you are too busy to watch this 11 1/2 minute video, take the time to at least watch the last 2 1/2 minutes. I have met several people that are cancer free (for years) that used a mushroom of some sort.
Anyone who has carried one of these polymer bills knows they are an absolute POS.
They are simply trying to kill the cash market.
And plastic bills that slide out of your pocket are the best way to do it.
Pretty funny....Durden is defending himself in the comment section -- RIP (), 15:31:43 05/02/12 Wed
Rare...and choice.
Loose money normally means HIGHER commodity prices.
He is arguing that cheap money is constraining the price discovery of nat gas.
Fecking hilarious.
Arnold is cashing out...because he has lost his manipulative edge.
And that is the only reason an ex-Enron trader would quit.
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ZH says supply/demand is being twisted because of cheap capital -- RIP, 15:09:44 05/02/12 Wed
That is utter nonsense.
Commodities can be ramped because of cheap capital.
Nat gas is the truest of supply/demand commodities due to storage constraints.
I'll wager Durden wishes he hadn't wrote that garbage.
Arnold made all his dough by being SHORT nat gas....right after Enron was very LONG nat gas.
Good for Arnold....he is now a multi-billionaire at 37.
But pul-eeze...spare me the tears.
Gold production was 3% higher at 34 947oz due to a 7% increase in total throughput to 5 613 000t following the completion of the Crown/Ergo pipeline and continued optimisation of this circuit. Operating cash costs were contained to a 1% increase at R267 044/kg due to higher throughput despite a significant impact of reagent price increases (specifically cyanide price). Crown/Ergo achieved an operating profit of R162.2m and spent R41.2m on capex.
Zimbabwe
During the quarter, exploration drilling continued at the KT target at Gweru. At John Bull, trenching has resulted in intersections of between 2 and 24g/t, and a drilling programme is planned to determine the behaviour of the reef at depth. At Leny, additional trenching has been completed and sampling is pending. Management is carefully monitoring developments around the land lease regime that has been proposed by the Zimbabwean Government.
Outlook
Construction of the R250m Brakpan plant flotation and fine-grind circuit has begun and is designed to push up gold production at Ergo by 16% to 20%. A desktop study suggests that the fine-grind circuit may also bring uranium recovery within reach and effect a by-product credit reduction in gold production costs of between 5 and 8%. Management has said this assumes production of approximately 11 tonnes per month and a uranium spot price of $50/lb. A full feasibility study is currently under way to verify these assumptions and, among other things, the estimated capital cost of R150m.
Recommendation
DRD remains one of our key gold stocks and we maintain our recommendation to BUY with a good dividend outlook.
WIFFO -- Mikikis, 11:22:16 05/02/12 Wed
No electrical surge protector? People here will rarely even install a new computer without one of those included in the price due to the intense electrical storms all rainy season. Many folks also have battery back ups so that they can close all programs and save relevant info.
conditioning the mind... -- zygoat, 10:14:14 05/02/12 Wed
for this reason we have the see-eye-a agents having stories released about them by rothschilds media being goons just as they appear and were portrayed in that adult cartoon from a few years back...can't say for sure, other than the obvious why this meme is being implanted at this time, but it is for a purpose to hook the sheeple down the line
Resolute could be in for another ass kicking on the asx tomorrow. -- normandyrevulsion, 09:34:05 05/02/12 Wed
News for BAMAKO (Reuters) - Soldiers from Mali's ...
Mali junta overruns loyalist base in blow to counter-coup
(Reuters) - Soldiers from Mali's ruling junta overran the main presidential guard barracks in the capital Bamako on Tuesday, striking a heavy blow to the loyalist unit that has been fighting since Monday to reverse a March coup.
Well this is a first....you were not allowed to descrive a persons ethnicity -- WIFFO (), 09:17:04 05/02/12 Wed
before except if the person was a "Caucasian" same same, whitey from European extraction.
Now the pricks in the press have actually grown a testicle and are calling an Abo an Aboriginal.
Northern Territory Police are looking for three men who allegedly raped two European tourists at gunpoint in Alice Springs overnight.
Police say the Aboriginal men broke into the women's car at about 4:00am.
The women, aged 21 and 28, were sleeping in the vehicle opposite the Alice Springs Convention Centre.
Police say the men, aged in their 20s, held the women hostage for about an hour and sexually assaulted them.
One of the men was armed with a rifle.
Police say the men then stole cigarettes from the women before speeding off in another car.
After the attack, the women waved down a police car near the Heavitree Gap Caravan Park to seek help.
They say the men are armed and dangerous and are asking the public not to approach them.
Police conducted an aerial search for the car this afternoon, but it hasn't been found.
Commander Michael Murphy says the vehicle was last seen leaving the town and heading towards the McDonnell ranges. He's urged the men to surrender.
"It's very cruel it's very aggressive. It's on two innocent females visiting our country. They're both international tourists aged 21 and 28 from Europe and obviously very traumatised by the event," he said.
"What I urge is all members of the public to please keep their eye out for this vehicle.
"I would urge the people involved in this horrendous incident to surrender themselves to the police station
Police say they are looking for a green Toyota Ascent sedan with a South Australian registration plate, WXD 617.
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I see you are still in a jolly optomistic mood Azau. -- WIFFO, 09:05:30 05/02/12 Wed
I know you get furiously pissed off when these disasters fail to happen.....but heh!.....look on the bright side, there are plenty of potential fuckups yet to happen....you could concentrate on those.
thx much appreciated -- SilverFox, 08:47:44 05/02/12 Wed
I have not been posting that much over the last two years but I do enjoy reading the posts on both forums thx again for the new sight I was not aware of it
cheers
The ptb banksters and politicians (whores) have made sure that everyone except them -- AZAU, 08:42:24 05/02/12 Wed
is in the same sh*tty sack (including usa), with no possibility for escape.
"Debt crisis: Live
Poor manufacturing data from Italy, Spain, France and Germany erodes early gains on European markets, while eurozone unemployment hits a record high of 10.9pc."
The problem with fukushima is that the more the media downplays the -- AZAU, 08:35:04 05/02/12 Wed
potential for catastrophic events, the less people think about it, or do about it. This could be a "calamity for humanity" that would devastate the world, but noone seems to be concerned. This "alfred e neuman" approach to the madness is the "insanity of humanity", where you are dependent on a bunch of japs with firehoses to keep the water running over the nuclear fuel rods until something much uglier happens. Marking time....the countdown to the next, more final disaster.
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Bizarro_Greenspan, 14:20:59 05/04/12 Fri 
POO down near 5% -- 
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