Any Info on Gemstars Pageants of Arizona? -- Just the Truth please..,a friend of mine heard that Gemstars is coming to California for a state pageant, she asked my opinion, however, my encounter with gemstars was not a pleasant one. I do not want to give her "just" my opinion (being that it was a bad one) others may have had good exp. with themYes, my child won at thier Arizona pageant, but did not appreciate the comments that were made by the directors, Angie & Debbie. -- Air it ALL

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Date Posted: 13:59:02 04/19/04 Mon
Author: Please this is not a bash fest, just a friend who asked me my opinion, and I cannot assist.
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Subject: Any Info on Gemstars Pageants of Arizona? -- Just the Truth please..,a friend of mine heard that Gemstars is coming to California for a state pageant, she asked my opinion, however, my encounter with gemstars was not a pleasant one. I do not want to give her "just" my opinion (being that it was a bad one) others may have had good exp. with themYes, my child won at thier Arizona pageant, but did not appreciate the comments that were made by the directors, Angie & Debbie.

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It has its goods and bads like any system.The directors should be a little more professional around the kids like not smoking and dressing a little more professional.But they always give away pretty nice stuff even when low numbers they award all children.So if it is just a prelim,try it out and see what you think of it?Hope it helps a little (NT) -- No name, 15:07:27 04/19/04 Mon (ip68-3-253-44.ph.ph.cox.net/68.3.253.44)
I would like to know what comments were said about your child because Angie and Debbie have never said anything negative about a child. They have given constructive comments for improvement to parents directly and anything else you have heard ,if not from their mouths is probably hearsay (NT) -- No name, 13:59:48 04/20/04 Tue (vl7.ci.mesa.az.us/199.101.36.7)
THIS IS A VERY FUN SYSTEM AND THE DIRECTORS ARE GREAT! THEY GIVE VERY NICE GIFTS THAT ARE CHILDREN ORIENTED. I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOUR FRIEND TO GIVE IT A TRY BECAUSE THE CHILD WILL HAVE FUN. (NT) -- No name, 14:23:57 04/20/04 Tue (vl7.ci.mesa.az.us/199.101.36.7)
I -- No name, 18:38:07 04/20/04 Tue (cache-dtc-ad02.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.196)
This is a fun, fair system. We have done Gem Stars and have been pleased, the directors are very nice and really make it fun for the kids. (NT) -- No name, 19:25:39 04/20/04 Tue (h-67-102-10-49.phndaz91.dynamic.covad.net/67.102.10.49)
This is a really fair and fun system, Debbie and Angie have been pageant moms for years before they started directing and really know what people would like to see. They may have a few kinks to work out but in general Gemstars is a great system. I have never seen Debbie smoke around the children she always goes outside. This shouldn't have anything to do with your opinion of the pageant anyway (NT) -- No name, 12:34:33 04/21/04 Wed (NoHost/199.101.36.7)
- It has nothing to do with how the pageant is run. However, I don't choose for my daughter's pageant director to be a smoker because I think that it sets a bad example. Other people might have a different opinion and not mind the smoking. I do mind it. There are plenty of directors who set a good example. I don't need one who does not. (NT) -- No name, 12:00:52 05/20/04 Thu (vl7.ci.mesa.az.us/199.101.36.7)
Who's going to AZ Gemstar's State in June? (NT) -- No name, 23:37:58 05/15/04 Sat (ip24-56-26-192.ph.ph.cox.net/24.56.26.192)
- what is fishy about totally scoresheets? Maybe if more systems actually had a scoring system it would take them awhile to total them too. (NT) -- No name, 14:14:06 05/19/04 Wed (vl7.ci.mesa.az.us/199.101.36.7)
gemstars -- No name, 17:32:47 05/16/04 Sun (ip68-2-78-148.ph.ph.cox.net/68.2.78.148)
- Arizona doesnt support glitz pageants at all and this in a very bad example of what a glitz pageant is all about. They have lots of prelims but usually the same kids compete. Their prizes are awful cheap trophies, crowns, and toys. I agre Debbie is very much a gossiper and always talks about other moms. Angie is very nice and usually is not on the front line of running things. The biggest concern I have heard is how long their very small pageants lastThere are other glitz systems out there for you to compete in and receive much better results for the same cost if not less. (NT) -- No name, 17:47:10 05/16/04 Sun (cache-ntc-ac02.proxy.aol.com/198.81.26.71)
  - . After every pageant they take the score sheets and return after at least an hour with the winners.....hmmmm, sounds fishy to me. (NT) -- No name, 17:48:03 05/16/04 Sun (cache-ntc-ac02.proxy.aol.com/198.81.26.71)
  - the reason you think Angie is nice is because she does'nt answer any one's calls Debbie does. Angie doesn't do much of anything so Debbie gets to answer to all the moms she is always up front and will tell you the things you need to know and if any of you want to say you don't talk to your friends about other moms you are crazy so maybe she thought she was talking to a friend as a friend and not a director. so who would be the gossiper? Maybe you could stab some more people in the back. (NT) -- No name, 14:33:59 05/19/04 Wed (vl7.ci.mesa.az.us/199.101.36.7)
    - This doesn't sound very nice regarding Angie. I think you are insinuating that she doesn't carry her weight and that Debbie has to do all of the dealing with the pageant moms. You owe Angie an apology. She is nicer to work with than Debbie ever thought of being. She doesn't gossip and doesn't cause trouble among the moms. (NT) -- No name, 13:43:57 05/20/04 Thu (NoHost/63.164.145.198)
    - I think you are on the wrong track try this... -- No name, 21:06:53 05/26/04 Wed (addbs.dbsudeste.com.br/200.243.58.1)
  - Suggestion number 1-- Don't let Debbie talk to the people so she can't gossip. If necessary let Angie be the only Director. Suggestion 2-- Run a more organized pageant. With such small numbers there is no reason that the pageant takes so many hours to complete. Number 3-- Keep the Director away from the judges table and the tabulating and just give her the results to read. That way she has to go by what the judges came up with. (NT) -- No name, 11:34:22 05/20/04 Thu (vl7.ci.mesa.az.us/199.101.36.7)
- who are you trying to kid! Debbie is not a gossiper she tells the facts and if you don't like that then don't ask her questions. She is one of the few directors that will tell you the truth and not just what you want to hear. Gemstars is a very honest and fun pageant and compared to others here they have awsome prizes and trophies. (NT) -- No name, 14:24:12 05/19/04 Wed (vl7.ci.mesa.az.us/199.101.36.7)
  - Debbie gossips to everybody! Who are kidding? And while the prizes are fine for a preliminary what great prizes are given out on the higher levels or state and Nationals? More toys? Let's just say that every system is imperfect and not try to make it like this one is perfect. Stop sounding so high and mighty and come back to the real world. Moms must feel that whatever pageant they are doing is worth it or they wouldn't be there. (NT) -- No name, 08:31:16 05/20/04 Thu (co.pinal.az.us/207.224.179.66)
    - Yeah,yeah,yeah. We all know Debbie is a gossip. My problem with Debbie is not so much the gossip (we all do it or we wouldn't be on this board! LOL) it is her smoking. The kids all know that she is a smoker and I don't care for somebody who smokes to be a role model for my kids! I'm NOT looking for a bad role model! Her gossiping doesn't bother me any more than my gossiping bothers me. The kids don't know it is going on but they ALL know she smokes. Yuck! (NT) -- No name, 10:05:44 05/20/04 Thu (co.pinal.az.us/207.224.179.66)
Who all is going to Gemstars State? We are and we are getting excited! My daughter is in the 13-24 mnth division. (NT) -- No name, 18:57:38 05/19/04 Wed (66-53-91-179.phnx.dial.netzero.com/66.53.91.179)
Gemstars is a great pageant system with the nicest directors one could ask for. They are so helpful to parents who are new to pageants. Try for yourself before you listen to others negitive opinions (NT) -- No name, 20:08:25 05/19/04 Wed (NoHost/65.54.98.172)
we are working on going -- my daughters are so excited to be in gemstars pageant ! we have not yet been in gemstras but herd many good things about them (NT) -- No name, 20:11:52 05/19/04 Wed (NoHost/65.54.98.172)
and you dont find it fishy that other AZ pageant dont even use scoresheets, just how the heck do you think those winners are picked? why do you think everyone tries to do so much for this pageant! at lest at gemstars your child is actually scored on his or her performance on stage not what the moms do for the director or pageant (NT) -- No name, 20:18:05 05/19/04 Wed (NoHost/65.54.98.172)
- What pageants are you talking about that don't use scoresheets? Cinderella uses scoresheets at the prelim level and then it is judges' consensus at state and international. Kids USA uses scoresheets at all levels and if you compete for scoresheet you even get all written comments. How was Miss and Mister done? I thought pretty much all of the pageants used scores. Perhaps if someone has a question about it they should ask the Director so that they know what they are getting into. Regardless it shouldn't take an hour to total any scores! (NT) -- No name, 07:29:53 05/20/04 Thu (co.pinal.az.us/207.224.179.66)
  - HT doesnt use score sheets -- No name, 21:08:24 05/21/04 Fri (ip68-2-78-148.ph.ph.cox.net/68.2.78.148)
Who cares if Debbie smokes? It doesn't make her a bad pageant director! Do you eat junk food? Do you have an occasional drink? Those are also considered bad habits but I am sure that most people do both! As long as she doesn't smoke in the ballroom or blow it in my kids face, it is her personal business! How lame that we have resorted to such nonsense as picking on a Dir for smoking! Ridiculous! (NT) -- No name, 12:11:18 05/20/04 Thu (cache-dtc-ad02.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.196)
Fixed pageant, unorganized and trashy directors.JMO (NT) -- No name, 12:28:56 05/20/04 Thu (NoHost/63.164.145.198)
- Why do you think they leave the room and then come back with the results? It doesn't take a brick to hit me in the head to see how suspicious this one is! (NT) -- No name, 13:27:55 05/20/04 Thu (NoHost/63.164.145.198)
- It is a pageant that you can win if your dd can't win any other. Very easy, little competition. That is why the mothers involved support it. Their dds can't hack it in the harder pageants and won't leave with a crown on there head! (NT) -- No name, 13:46:51 05/20/04 Thu (NoHost/63.164.145.198)