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Subject: Re: little guy versus Big Business


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dotB
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Date Posted: 05:06:38 07/10/09 Fri
In reply to: The Mage 's message, "Re: little guy versus Big Business" on 22:16:49 07/09/09 Thu

>>Check this out: >>href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo">http
>:
>>//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo

>>And the moral of the story is; "Don't believe that a
>>little guy is powerless."
>
>If I were to travel by air it would not be on United!
>I wonder how much business that airline has lost
>because of that song?

I'm uncertain, but he was approached by UA who wanted to 'buy' the song rights so they can use it as a 'training video' for their customer service people and baggage handlers. However he has promised to produce 2 more videos on the subject within the year (actually the second video is supposedly already in production.) Since he wanted to get a million hits in a year with all 3 videos and has received a million in 24 hours with just one, I think he's overstepped his quota.

Now the question is - will United Airlines manage to 'sandbag' the U-Tube video by legal means, or will they buy him off?

The reason I thought this was so funny has to be because of the last couple of chapters of 'Blue Beauty' - I was just thinking what Myleigh and the Spearfish Lake crew could do to whatever airline lost Myleigh's harp.

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Author:
Wes
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Date Posted: 09:29:16 07/10/09 Fri

>>>And the moral of the story is; "Don't believe that a
>>>little guy is powerless."

What a lesson this is in the power of the Internet. There used to be a saying, "Don't mess with people that buy ink by the barrel and newsprint by the ton." I don't think that statement is necessarily true any more, but the Internet is making up for it -- it just requires catching people's fancy or the temper of the moment to make an end run on the conventional wisdom.

Spearfish Lake Tales is admittedly an end run on the conventional wisdom. As I've said before, I hawked "Snowplow Extra" around for years before giving up on it, and just deciding to write for the fun of writing. Every click on the hit counter, ever dollar of donations, is my way of thumbing my nose at those people in New York that didn't think there was a market for my writing.

I don't think Internet publishing is a fully developed phenomenon yet, by any means. But it's fun to be in a situation where my writing has to stand on its own merits with my readership, rather than who I can impress in the publishing industry. The Internet has empowered me as a writer, and I'm happy and a little proud to be on the leading edge of that change.

Thanks everybody, for reading, for donating, for purchasing. You're helping create a new world!


>The reason I thought this was so funny has to be
>because of the last couple of chapters of 'Blue
>Beauty' - I was just thinking what Myleigh and the
>Spearfish Lake crew could do to whatever airline lost
>Myleigh's harp.

Trey already made a pretty good start at it.

I don't fly airlines any more if I can avoid it, and I usually can. I'm going to let go a teaser from a future book that probably says why as well as anything:

"Randy had really come to dislike flying -- maybe even hate it. Not that he feared it, because he didn't. But, if given the chance he would really rather travel by almost any other mode of transportation, which included pack mule -- not that he'd ever ridden a pack mule, but in his imagination it had to be better than being stuffed like a sardine into a can full of strangers. As far as he was concerned, getting a ticket was ungodly expensive and complicated, getting on a plane was a crapshoot at best, the airline treated coach class passengers like cattle on the way to slaughter, kept them in the dark about what was happening and fed them shit if they fed them at all. It was a miracle if you left on time, and a greater miracle if you actually arrived at the destination on time -- and a still greater miracle if your checked luggage arrived at the same place and time you did. Beyond that, the bastards had their hands out every time you turned around, expecting you to pay through the nose for the privilege of being treated that way. Randy had not been on a plane since the September 11 attack on the World Trade Center, but the horror stories that he heard on the news about the increased security and check-in waits made airline travel even less appealing."

And that was 2001. From everything I've heard, things haven't improved. The problem is that the cheap crap drives out the good stuff -- always has, always will. As long as people are willing to bottom-feed price without regard to the quality of service, they are going to get what they pay for -- and so will the rest of us.

-- Wes
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Author:
Andrew
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Date Posted: 13:20:24 07/13/09 Mon

>
>Spearfish Lake Tales is admittedly an end run on the
>conventional wisdom. As I've said before, I hawked
>"Snowplow Extra" around for years before giving up on
>it, and just deciding to write for the fun of writing.
>Every click on the hit counter, ever dollar of
>donations, is my way of thumbing my nose at those
>people in New York that didn't think there was a
>market for my writing.
>
>
>-- Wes

Bad example.
A personal opinion of course, but "Snowplow Extra" is easily the least saleable story on this site. For a more objective view count your sales, probably just the "dead tree" ones because "download ahead of time" came later. I'm not going to try and put the others in any kind of order because I don't see any point to it.
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Author:
Wes
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Date Posted: 16:08:24 07/13/09 Mon

>Bad example.
>A personal opinion of course, but "Snowplow Extra" is
>easily the least saleable story on this site. For a
>more objective view count your sales, probably just
>the "dead tree" ones because "download ahead of time"
>came later. I'm not going to try and put the others
>in any kind of order because I don't see any point to
>it.

You're probably right that Snowplow is not a good example, but it was what my thinking was based on, so I have to live with it. The simple fact of the matter was that I didn't feel like going through all those hassles again with the kind of track record I'd experienced.

I would rather have just sat down in my shop and kicked out a story when I happened to feel like it, and maybe run off a story or two for my friends before going through all that pointless beating my head against the wall. That's what I did for a number of years before I decided to experiment with putting this stuff online. The results have been much better than I expected, and I really enjoy the positive feedback -- and yes, the helpful negative feedback -- that I get from my readers. The feedback has helped my writing a lot, and I've learned a great deal from it.

I have a couple stories not in the Spearfish Lake universe stuck back that I'm not planning on posting in the near future, just in case someone wants to come to me with an offer. I'm not holding my breath, but they are there if they are wanted.

The point is that with the online publishing the stories stand on their own merit with readers, without anyone else's opinion filtering what readers get to read. If people like my stories, fine. Glad to have you. If not, that's their decision (they're not reading this) and I can't fault them for it. They are free to look elsewhere and it hasn't cost them anything except for a little time.

As I've said elsewhere, publishing on the Internet is sort of like a guy playing a guitar on a street corner. It's direct producer-to-consumer, and I find that I'm liking it. What's more, to some degree I think that online publishing is to a degree the future of publishing. We shall see.

-- Wes
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Author:
Ed
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Date Posted: 14:11:09 07/10/09 Fri

>>>Check this out: >>>href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo">htt
>p
>>:
>>>//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo

>>>And the moral of the story is; "Don't believe that a
>>>little guy is powerless."
>>
>>If I were to travel by air it would not be on United!
>>I wonder how much business that airline has lost
>>because of that song?
>
>I'm uncertain, but he was approached by UA who wanted
>to 'buy' the song rights so they can use it as a
>'training video' for their customer service people and
>baggage handlers. However he has promised to produce 2
>more videos on the subject within the year (actually
>the second video is supposedly already in production.)
>Since he wanted to get a million hits in a year with
>all 3 videos and has received a million in 24 hours
>with just one, I think he's overstepped his quota.
>
>Now the question is - will United Airlines manage to
>'sandbag' the U-Tube video by legal means, or will
>they buy him off?
>
>The reason I thought this was so funny has to be
>because of the last couple of chapters of 'Blue
>Beauty' - I was just thinking what Myleigh and the
>Spearfish Lake crew could do to whatever airline lost
>Myleigh's harp.

Not to mention the special place in hell reserved for the designers of those 2/3 scale Canadair jets that regional airlines love. Munchkins would be cramped in those things not to mention flying 4 hours with a wideload hogging half your seat.


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