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Subject: The End, or -- 30 -- Author: sam [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 23:54:58 05/17/12 Thu Wes, why do your books end in -- 30 --? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: The End, or -- 30 -- Author: Dmitri [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 00:43:48 05/18/12 Fri >Wes, why do your books end in -- 30 --? Wes is a journalist. All journalists think every reader of every kind knows what -30- means. From Wikipedia: –30– has been traditionally used by journalists to indicate the end of a story. There are many theories about how the usage came into being,[1]e.g. from that number's use in the 92 Code of telegraphic shorthand to signify the end of a transmission in the American Civil War era.[2] In another theory, the "-30-" originated when stories were written in longhand; X marked the end of a sentence, XX the end of a paragraph, and XXX meant the end of a story. The Roman numerals XXX translate to 30. Okay, now we know what it means, but even journalists don't know why it does. Dmitri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: The End, or -- 30 -- Author: Doug [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:02:57 05/18/12 Fri >>Wes, why do your books end in -- 30 --? > >Wes is a journalist. All journalists think every >reader of every kind knows what -30- means. > >From Wikipedia: >–30– has been traditionally used by journalists to >indicate the end of a story. There are many theories >about how the usage came into being,[1]e.g. from that >number's use in the 92 Code of telegraphic shorthand >to signify the end of a transmission in the American >Civil War era.[2] In another theory, the "-30-" >originated when stories were written in longhand; X >marked the end of a sentence, XX the end of a >paragraph, and XXX meant the end of a story. The Roman >numerals XXX translate to 30. > >Okay, now we know what it means, but even >journalists don't know why it does. > >Dmitri Anyone who has bought a recently edited book will not we have changed the endings to "The End" ... it was thought better to end more traditionally but ... I did like the -30- [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: The End, or -- 30 -- Author: Jim Wickman [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:37:12 05/21/12 Mon >>Wes, why do your books end in -- 30 --? > >Wes is a journalist. All journalists think every >reader of every kind knows what -30- means. In high school journalism class we learned that -30- was a code for a 30-em dash to separate the story from the following one. Of course, that was in olden times (1948) along with steam-powered radio and 8 cents a gallon for gas. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: The End, or -- 30 -- Author: sam [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:12:41 05/21/12 Mon >the following one. Of course, that was in olden times >(1948) along with steam-powered radio and 8 cents a Your radios were steam-powered?! Man, you had it easy. We had to hand-crank ours... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The End, or -- 30 -- Author: Harold S. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:56:50 05/22/12 Tue >>the following one. Of course, that was in olden times >>(1948) along with steam-powered radio and 8 cents a >Your radios were steam-powered?! Man, you had it easy. > >We had to hand-crank ours... A filk song I know of called "When I Was A Boy" talks about that sort of thing... (How things have changed..) http://www.stevemacdonald.org/lyrics/wiwab.html [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The End, or -- 30 -- Author: sam [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 00:02:34 05/23/12 Wed >>>the following one. Of course, that was in olden times >>>(1948) along with steam-powered radio and 8 cents a >>Your radios were steam-powered?! Man, you had it >easy. >> >>We had to hand-crank ours... > >A filk song I know of called "When I Was A Boy" talks >about that sort of thing... (How things have changed..) > > >href="http://www.stevemacdonald.org/lyrics/wiwab.html"> >http://www.stevemacdonald.org/lyrics/wiwab.html Ooh, I like it! Thanks for the link. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The End, or -- 30 -- Author: Mike Price [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:28:11 05/23/12 Wed ">>the following one. Of course, that was in olden times >>(1948) along with steam-powered radio and 8 cents a >Your radios were steam-powered?! Man, you had it easy. > >We had to hand-crank ours..." And now hand-cranked radios are back. Especially in Africa! Along with hand-cranked torches, water pumps, telephone chargers etc :o [ Post a Reply to This Message ]