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Subject: Re: Grand Canyon raft trips shutdown

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Leo

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Date Posted: 21:27:54 10/20/13 Sun
In reply to: Dmitri 's message, "Re: Grand Canyon raft trips shutdown" on 21:09:24 10/20/13 Sun

I know what you mean; I'm a great deal closer to "ground zero," in that I work in a Museum on the National Mall, a little closer to the White House than to the Capital. We were down for eighteen days, and even on a "quiet" time like now, we still typically get about 2000 people through the doors, which sounds like 36,000 people just to my building alone.

Unfortunately, it seems like anything useful (read: radical!) would involve something being passed through Congress. I seem to recall it being a pretty ugly thing to try to get a Constitutional Amendment through starting from the States; even worse than trying to get one through by starting it in Congress.

Leo

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Dmitri
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Date Posted: 11:19:20 10/23/13 Wed

Leo,

I think it could be done through individual local "grass-roots" recall efforts rather than an all-inclusive "en-mass" attempt, but it would have to be a significant portion of congress critters that it happens to to be very effective. There would be publicity even if just one or two recall events were initiated, especially if successful, but the change of just a few house and/or senate members wouldn't help much in telling the rest that they're not at all serving their constituents' interests with their shenanigans. It takes a mass replacement of a significant number of them to do that and possibly scare the rest into line. Some coordination would possibly help, but organization efforts that are not my strong suit. We need Emily Holst to start it.

>I know what you mean; I'm a great deal closer to
>"ground zero," in that I work in a Museum on the
>National Mall, a little closer to the White House than
>to the Capital. We were down for eighteen days, and
>even on a "quiet" time like now, we still typically
>get about 2000 people through the doors, which sounds
>like 36,000 people just to my building alone.
>
>Unfortunately, it seems like anything useful (read:
>radical!) would involve something being passed through
>Congress. I seem to recall it being a pretty ugly
>thing to try to get a Constitutional Amendment through
>starting from the States; even worse than trying to
>get one through by starting it in Congress.
>
>Leo