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Subject: Re: Has Learjet jen moved on Author: Wes [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 22:15:39 01/10/16 Sun In reply to: IanS 's message, "Has Learjet jen moved on" on 21:03:44 01/10/16 Sun >Under noise rules the lear 20 series can no longer fly >in much of the world so I wondered what Jen flys now. In the most recent story involving Jennlynn written -- not yet posted and won't be for a while -- she has moved on to another airplane, and that's all the spoiler I'm going to give on that. Remember that most of the Learjet Jenn stories are dated in the late 1990s -- nearly twenty years ago, and the Lear was an old one at the time. >Also reading airliners.net some pilots have a low >opinion of the aircraft. >Read > >href="http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/tech_ops >/read.main/355728/">http://www.airliners.net/aviation-f >orums/tech_ops/read.main/355728/ >for some interesting info even though it goes into >praise for the jetstar halfway through. I read partway down through that and found it interesting, but in reading it you have to remember that bizjets have improved a lot since the first Lear 20s rolled out of the shop almost half a century ago, and Skyhook was one of the earliest ones. -- Wes [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Has Learjet jen moved on Author: K Pelle [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:37:55 01/17/16 Sun >Under noise rules the lear 20 series can no longer fly >in much of the world so I wondered what Jen flys now. >Also reading airliners.net some pilots have a low >opinion of the aircraft. >Read > >href="http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/tech_ops >/read.main/355728/">http://www.airliners.net/aviation-f >orums/tech_ops/read.main/355728/ >for some interesting info even though it goes into >praise for the jetstar halfway through. Yep, the early Lear cockpits were built for short pilots with small bottoms. I'm tall enough that I almost had to walk on my knees when I had a ride with a friend in one of the early versions. Not only that, but I recall the switches in the cockpit being tiny little toggles that looked about the same size as matchsticks. I did like the way that bird took off though - a great loud noise and lots of G-force as you took off. kp [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Has Learjet jen moved on Author: Charlene [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01:54:34 01/22/16 Fri Nice to hear that a new Jennlyn story is coming.>>Under noise rules the lear 20 series can no longer fly >>in much of the world so I wondered what Jen flys now. >>Also reading airliners.net some pilots have a low >>opinion of the aircraft. >>Read >> >>href="http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/tech_op >s >>/read.main/355728/">http://www.airliners.net/aviation- >f >>orums/tech_ops/read.main/355728/ >>for some interesting info even though it goes into >>praise for the jetstar halfway through. > >Yep, the early Lear cockpits were built for short >pilots with small bottoms. I'm tall enough that I >almost had to walk on my knees when I had a ride with >a friend in one of the early versions. Not only that, >but I recall the switches in the cockpit being tiny >little toggles that looked about the same size as >matchsticks. I did like the way that bird took off >though - a great loud noise and lots of G-force as you >took off. > >kp [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Has Learjet jen moved on Author: Wes [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:54:09 01/22/16 Fri >Nice to hear that a new Jennlyn story is >coming. I'm afraid you're going to be a little disappointed in that Jennlynn is only going to be a minor character in the next book, and in a future book. However, I keep thinking about doing another book about her, possibly ten years in the future from the last point she's been mentioned. The problem with doing another major book on Jennlynn is that Magic Carpet is an extremely tough act to follow. If I do another book on her, I want to do at least as good a job. Some one of these days the right idea will come along. -- Wes [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Has Learjet jen moved on Author: Charlene [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01:24:02 01/25/16 Mon >>Nice to hear that a new Jennlyn story is >>coming. > >I'm afraid you're going to be a little disappointed in >that Jennlynn is only going to be a minor character in >the next book, and in a future book. However, I keep >thinking about doing another book about her, possibly >ten years in the future from the last point she's been >mentioned. > >The problem with doing another major book on Jennlynn >is that Magic Carpet is an extremely tough act to >follow. If I do another book on her, I want to do at >least as good a job. > >Some one of these days the right idea will come along. > >-- Wes How about her owning a film company/studio based in LV? I would like to know how the kids are doing especially Myleigh's daughter Caitlin. Wes, you have created some memorable characters in your novels. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Has Learjet jen moved on Author: Wes [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:42:22 01/25/16 Mon >How about her owning a film company/studio based in LV? >I would like to know how the kids are doing especially >Myleigh's daughter Caitlin. Wes, you have created some >memorable characters in your novels. You know, that's something I've thought about more than once recently -- I mean, the kids in Spearfish Lake born in roughly 2004-06: Sky and Hunter Evachevski, Brent and Raven Clark, and Celeste Hartwell. Brent and Raven have already had bit parts in Forgotten Killer. If this were the real world, they would be just about ready to turn teenagers. They've been pretty much brought up together as their parents are all close friends. It seems to me there ought to be a story there. I've got to think about that one some more. -- Wes [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Has Learjet jen moved on Author: Dana Carson [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 04:27:54 01/22/16 Fri The final Learjet design was instead adapted from an abortive 1950s Swiss ground-attack fighter aircraft, the FFA P-16. So it wasn't designed from the ground up for business. The cockpit was probably designed to be gotten from above and then close the canopy. That was the 23, the others in the 20 series were derived from the 23 so probably similar. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Has Learjet jen moved on Author: Ellis [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:37:21 01/25/16 Mon >The final Learjet design was instead adapted from an >abortive 1950s Swiss ground-attack fighter aircraft, >the FFA P-16. So it wasn't designed from the ground up >for business. The cockpit was probably designed to be >gotten from above and then close the canopy. That was >the 23, the others in the 20 series were derived from >the 23 so probably similar. Well, sort of. It's true that the wing was a modification of the P-16 wing, but the fuselage was all new and by a different designer. The fuselage was designed to be as small, especially in cross section, as possible both for performance and aesthetic reasons. The cockpit was designed to be entered from the cabin, it's just that comfort wasn't a design criteria. -E [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Has Learjet jen moved on Author: GB34 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:59:01 02/08/16 Mon >>The final Learjet design was instead adapted from an >>abortive 1950s Swiss ground-attack fighter aircraft, >>the FFA P-16. So it wasn't designed from the ground up >>for business. The cockpit was probably designed to be >>gotten from above and then close the canopy. That was >>the 23, the others in the 20 series were derived from >>the 23 so probably similar. > >Well, sort of. It's true that the wing was a >modification of the P-16 wing, but the fuselage was >all new and by a different designer. The fuselage was >designed to be as small, especially in cross section, >as possible both for performance and aesthetic >reasons. The cockpit was designed to be entered from >the cabin, it's just that comfort wasn't a design >criteria. > >-E Found this article about the development of the Learjet form the FFA P-16 design. Very interesting. http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/q0143.shtml [ Post a Reply to This Message ]