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Subject: Re: Change isn't always good


Author:
The Mage
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Date Posted: 08:47:09 02/20/13 Wed
In reply to: Wes 's message, "Change isn't always good" on 12:43:58 02/19/13 Tue

I sadly have to agree that the demise of the original barber shop is worrying here, (New England) too. We have five shops left in my town and half of them now have only women barbers. Needless to say that the atmosphere in those shops, while not that of a salon, is very different from what one would encounter in a traditional shop.

Don't get me wrong in that women don't do a good job cutting hair, they do, but... Well... D#^& it, it isn't the same any more AND then the last time I had my hair cut a woman brought her three middle school kids in for haircuts and two of those children were female. All male comradery AND most of the men's mags are gone too!!!

HEAVY SIGH




Another column I originally wrote for the paper:
>
>----------------
>
>Sometimes change comes so slowly that we don't notice
>it, until we reach the point where we look up and say,
>"What the heck happened?"
>
>Case in point: the long-venerated institution of the
>American barbershop is dying and nobody seems to
>notice it or mourn the passing.
>
> I just had a haircut. For many years I've gone to a
>barber in a nearby town. He's an old friend dating
>back to school days, and I'm comfortable with him. The
>only thing is that like me, he's not a spring chicken
>any more, and his hours have gotten spotty as he tries
>to dial down his work hours. What with one thing and
>another he can be hard to catch up with, and I was
>long past the point where I needed to have a haircut.
>
>Finally it got to the point of being ridiculous.
>
>You can hardly find a real barber any more. A glance
>at the phone book revealed that there are only a
>handful left in the county, and some of those are too
>far away or unusable for other reasons.
>
>Now, this is not a new issue; it's been going on for a
>while. Some time ago I asked my barber friend why
>there are only old coots still cutting hair in the
>traditional way, and he said that all the business is
>going to hairdressers.
>
>Finally I reached the point where my hair was driving
>me nuts. It was getting to the point of either
>deciding to let it grow out so I could put it in a
>pony tail, which I think looks silly on a guy as old
>and bald as I am, or biting the bullet and going to a
>hairdresser. So, after some putting it off, I went up
>the street to a hairdresser who I've been friendly
>with for years.
>
>OK, I'll be fair: she did a good job and was quick
>about it. She was cheerful and talkative, and it was
>good to catch up on a few things in her life.
>
>But darn it, the place was full of Redbook and
>People magazines. There was a definite
>insufficiency of Field and Streams and Popular
>Mechanics.
There was no one there who knew how
>much ice was on the lake, whether it would be safe to
>go ice fishing or not, or such important topics. No
>one had an opinion on how the winter was treating the
>local deer herd, or gave a damn. There were no
>opinions about how well Matt Kenseth is going to do
>driving for Joe Gibbs. There was little there that
>made me comfortable like I would have been in a
>traditional barbershop.
>
>Like I said, the haircut was all right, but under the
>circumstances the only thing I got out of it was
>shorter hair. There was none of the male certifying
>experience that comes out of going to a real live
>barbershop.
>
>It could be this is happening because of the
>increasing homogenization of society, of the loss of
>the traditional male and female roles.
>
>I suppose there are reasons for the vanishing of the
>American barber. I know nothing about the business
>aspects, and I would be reluctant to advise some young
>man to go into the trade, just knowing that the field
>is drying up and dying. That doesn't mean I wouldn't
>like to see it, though.
>
>Even Google doesn't seem to notice the dying of the
>insitution. All I came up with was the following
>statement from a career description site: "Demand for
>more specialized forms of hair treatment is expected
>to drive more customers toward multi-service hair
>salons and fewer toward traditional barber shops." My
>guess is that they're probably right, and that the
>market for the old traditonal male-bonding barber shop
>is decreasing.
>
>Sorry, I'm a crusty old coot in ways. I understand
>times are changing but this is one change I don't want
>to see.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Change isn't always good


Author:
carlton
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Date Posted: 21:42:10 02/21/13 Thu

You need to walk into a Hair salon and tell the stylist that you want a GI cut or a Flattop and watch their eyes just glaze over. either I have my son buzz my hair or I go to an Ethnic barber shop ( black Barber } for my hair cuts. I get cut the way I want with a minimum of fuss and no explaining what a GI cut is.



>I sadly have to agree that the demise of the original
>barber shop is worrying here, (New England) too. We
>have five shops left in my town and half of them now
>have only women barbers. Needless to say that the
>atmosphere in those shops, while not that of a salon,
>is very different from what one would encounter in a
>traditional shop.
>
>Don't get me wrong in that women don't do a good job
>cutting hair, they do, but... Well... D#^& it, it
>isn't the same any more AND then the last time I had
>my hair cut a woman brought her three middle school
>kids in for haircuts and two of those children were
>female. All male comradery AND most of the men's mags
>are gone too!!!
>
>HEAVY SIGH
>
>
>
>
>Another column I originally wrote for the paper:
>>
>>----------------
>>
>>Sometimes change comes so slowly that we don't notice
>>it, until we reach the point where we look up and say,
>>"What the heck happened?"
>>
>>Case in point: the long-venerated institution of the
>>American barbershop is dying and nobody seems to
>>notice it or mourn the passing.
>>
>> I just had a haircut. For many years I've gone to a
>>barber in a nearby town. He's an old friend dating
>>back to school days, and I'm comfortable with him. The
>>only thing is that like me, he's not a spring chicken
>>any more, and his hours have gotten spotty as he tries
>>to dial down his work hours. What with one thing and
>>another he can be hard to catch up with, and I was
>>long past the point where I needed to have a haircut.
>>
>>Finally it got to the point of being ridiculous.
>>
>>You can hardly find a real barber any more. A glance
>>at the phone book revealed that there are only a
>>handful left in the county, and some of those are too
>>far away or unusable for other reasons.
>>
>>Now, this is not a new issue; it's been going on for a
>>while. Some time ago I asked my barber friend why
>>there are only old coots still cutting hair in the
>>traditional way, and he said that all the business is
>>going to hairdressers.
>>
>>Finally I reached the point where my hair was driving
>>me nuts. It was getting to the point of either
>>deciding to let it grow out so I could put it in a
>>pony tail, which I think looks silly on a guy as old
>>and bald as I am, or biting the bullet and going to a
>>hairdresser. So, after some putting it off, I went up
>>the street to a hairdresser who I've been friendly
>>with for years.
>>
>>OK, I'll be fair: she did a good job and was quick
>>about it. She was cheerful and talkative, and it was
>>good to catch up on a few things in her life.
>>
>>But darn it, the place was full of Redbook and
>>People magazines. There was a definite
>>insufficiency of Field and Streams and Popular
>>Mechanics.
There was no one there who knew how
>>much ice was on the lake, whether it would be safe to
>>go ice fishing or not, or such important topics. No
>>one had an opinion on how the winter was treating the
>>local deer herd, or gave a damn. There were no
>>opinions about how well Matt Kenseth is going to do
>>driving for Joe Gibbs. There was little there that
>>made me comfortable like I would have been in a
>>traditional barbershop.
>>
>>Like I said, the haircut was all right, but under the
>>circumstances the only thing I got out of it was
>>shorter hair. There was none of the male certifying
>>experience that comes out of going to a real live
>>barbershop.
>>
>>It could be this is happening because of the
>>increasing homogenization of society, of the loss of
>>the traditional male and female roles.
>>
>>I suppose there are reasons for the vanishing of the
>>American barber. I know nothing about the business
>>aspects, and I would be reluctant to advise some young
>>man to go into the trade, just knowing that the field
>>is drying up and dying. That doesn't mean I wouldn't
>>like to see it, though.
>>
>>Even Google doesn't seem to notice the dying of the
>>insitution. All I came up with was the following
>>statement from a career description site: "Demand for
>>more specialized forms of hair treatment is expected
>>to drive more customers toward multi-service hair
>>salons and fewer toward traditional barber shops." My
>>guess is that they're probably right, and that the
>>market for the old traditonal male-bonding barber shop
>>is decreasing.
>>
>>Sorry, I'm a crusty old coot in ways. I understand
>>times are changing but this is one change I don't want
>>to see.
[> [> Subject: Re: Change isn't always good


Author:
bigolal
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Date Posted: 21:59:39 02/21/13 Thu

>I sadly have to agree that the demise of the original
>barber shop is worrying here, (New England) too. We
>have five shops left in my town and half of them now
>have only women barbers. Needless to say that the
>atmosphere in those shops, while not that of a salon,
>is very different from what one would encounter in a
>traditional shop.
>
>Don't get me wrong in that women don't do a good job
>cutting hair, they do, but... Well... D#^& it, it
>isn't the same any more AND then the last time I had
>my hair cut a woman brought her three middle school
>kids in for haircuts and two of those children were
>female. All male comradery AND most of the men's mags
>are gone too!!!
>
>HEAVY SIGH
>
>
>
>
>Another column I originally wrote for the paper:
>>
>>----------------
>>
>>Sometimes change comes so slowly that we don't notice
>>it, until we reach the point where we look up and say,
>>"What the heck happened?"
>>
>>Case in point: the long-venerated institution of the
>>American barbershop is dying and nobody seems to
>>notice it or mourn the passing.
>>
>> I just had a haircut. For many years I've gone to a
>>barber in a nearby town. He's an old friend dating
>>back to school days, and I'm comfortable with him. The
>>only thing is that like me, he's not a spring chicken
>>any more, and his hours have gotten spotty as he tries
>>to dial down his work hours. What with one thing and
>>another he can be hard to catch up with, and I was
>>long past the point where I needed to have a haircut.
>>
>>Finally it got to the point of being ridiculous.
>>
>>You can hardly find a real barber any more. A glance
>>at the phone book revealed that there are only a
>>handful left in the county, and some of those are too
>>far away or unusable for other reasons.
>>
>>Now, this is not a new issue; it's been going on for a
>>while. Some time ago I asked my barber friend why
>>there are only old coots still cutting hair in the
>>traditional way, and he said that all the business is
>>going to hairdressers.
>>
>>Finally I reached the point where my hair was driving
>>me nuts. It was getting to the point of either
>>deciding to let it grow out so I could put it in a
>>pony tail, which I think looks silly on a guy as old
>>and bald as I am, or biting the bullet and going to a
>>hairdresser. So, after some putting it off, I went up
>>the street to a hairdresser who I've been friendly
>>with for years.
>>
>>OK, I'll be fair: she did a good job and was quick
>>about it. She was cheerful and talkative, and it was
>>good to catch up on a few things in her life.
>>
>>But darn it, the place was full of Redbook and
>>People magazines. There was a definite
>>insufficiency of Field and Streams and Popular
>>Mechanics.
There was no one there who knew how
>>much ice was on the lake, whether it would be safe to
>>go ice fishing or not, or such important topics. No
>>one had an opinion on how the winter was treating the
>>local deer herd, or gave a damn. There were no
>>opinions about how well Matt Kenseth is going to do
>>driving for Joe Gibbs. There was little there that
>>made me comfortable like I would have been in a
>>traditional barbershop.
>>
>>Like I said, the haircut was all right, but under the
>>circumstances the only thing I got out of it was
>>shorter hair. There was none of the male certifying
>>experience that comes out of going to a real live
>>barbershop.
>>
>>It could be this is happening because of the
>>increasing homogenization of society, of the loss of
>>the traditional male and female roles.
>>
>>I suppose there are reasons for the vanishing of the
>>American barber. I know nothing about the business
>>aspects, and I would be reluctant to advise some young
>>man to go into the trade, just knowing that the field
>>is drying up and dying. That doesn't mean I wouldn't
>>like to see it, though.
>>
>>Even Google doesn't seem to notice the dying of the
>>insitution. All I came up with was the following
>>statement from a career description site: "Demand for
>>more specialized forms of hair treatment is expected
>>to drive more customers toward multi-service hair
>>salons and fewer toward traditional barber shops." My
>>guess is that they're probably right, and that the
>>market for the old traditonal male-bonding barber shop
>>is decreasing.
>>
>>Sorry, I'm a crusty old coot in ways. I understand
>>times are changing but this is one change I don't want
>>to see.

Guess I might as well chime in here too. I'm well into my 80s and have been going to the same barber for close to 30 years. But he's just turned 70 and is only working 3 days a week. I live in a senior area, so it's not unusual to see men in their 80s, 90s and up coming in for their haircuts. What are we to do when 'Ken' retires for good? Sad to contemplate.
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Change isn't always good


Author:
Wexwiz543
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Date Posted: 19:32:59 02/23/13 Sat

>>I sadly have to agree that the demise of the original
>>barber shop is worrying here, (New England) too. We
>>have five shops left in my town and half of them now
>>have only women barbers. Needless to say that the
>>atmosphere in those shops, while not that of a salon,
>>is very different from what one would encounter in a
>>traditional shop.
>>
>>Don't get me wrong in that women don't do a good job
>>cutting hair, they do, but... Well... D#^& it, it
>>isn't the same any more AND then the last time I had
>>my hair cut a woman brought her three middle school
>>kids in for haircuts and two of those children were
>>female. All male comradery AND most of the men's mags
>>are gone too!!!
>>
>>HEAVY SIGH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Another column I originally wrote for the paper:
>>>
>>>----------------
>>>
>>>Sometimes change comes so slowly that we don't notice
>>>it, until we reach the point where we look up and
>say,
>>>"What the heck happened?"
>>>
>>>Case in point: the long-venerated institution of the
>>>American barbershop is dying and nobody seems to
>>>notice it or mourn the passing.
>>>
>>> I just had a haircut. For many years I've gone to a
>>>barber in a nearby town. He's an old friend dating
>>>back to school days, and I'm comfortable with him.
>The
>>>only thing is that like me, he's not a spring chicken
>>>any more, and his hours have gotten spotty as he
>tries
>>>to dial down his work hours. What with one thing and
>>>another he can be hard to catch up with, and I was
>>>long past the point where I needed to have a haircut.
>>>
>>>Finally it got to the point of being ridiculous.
>>>
>>>You can hardly find a real barber any more. A glance
>>>at the phone book revealed that there are only a
>>>handful left in the county, and some of those are too
>>>far away or unusable for other reasons.
>>>
>>>Now, this is not a new issue; it's been going on for
>a
>>>while. Some time ago I asked my barber friend why
>>>there are only old coots still cutting hair in the
>>>traditional way, and he said that all the business is
>>>going to hairdressers.
>>>
>>>Finally I reached the point where my hair was driving
>>>me nuts. It was getting to the point of either
>>>deciding to let it grow out so I could put it in a
>>>pony tail, which I think looks silly on a guy as old
>>>and bald as I am, or biting the bullet and going to a
>>>hairdresser. So, after some putting it off, I went up
>>>the street to a hairdresser who I've been friendly
>>>with for years.
>>>
>>>OK, I'll be fair: she did a good job and was quick
>>>about it. She was cheerful and talkative, and it was
>>>good to catch up on a few things in her life.
>>>
>>>But darn it, the place was full of Redbook and
>>>People magazines. There was a definite
>>>insufficiency of Field and Streams and Popular
>>>Mechanics.
There was no one there who knew how
>>>much ice was on the lake, whether it would be safe to
>>>go ice fishing or not, or such important topics. No
>>>one had an opinion on how the winter was treating the
>>>local deer herd, or gave a damn. There were no
>>>opinions about how well Matt Kenseth is going to do
>>>driving for Joe Gibbs. There was little there that
>>>made me comfortable like I would have been in a
>>>traditional barbershop.
>>>
>>>Like I said, the haircut was all right, but under the
>>>circumstances the only thing I got out of it was
>>>shorter hair. There was none of the male certifying
>>>experience that comes out of going to a real live
>>>barbershop.
>>>
>>>It could be this is happening because of the
>>>increasing homogenization of society, of the loss of
>>>the traditional male and female roles.
>>>
>>>I suppose there are reasons for the vanishing of the
>>>American barber. I know nothing about the business
>>>aspects, and I would be reluctant to advise some
>young
>>>man to go into the trade, just knowing that the field
>>>is drying up and dying. That doesn't mean I wouldn't
>>>like to see it, though.
>>>
>>>Even Google doesn't seem to notice the dying of the
>>>insitution. All I came up with was the following
>>>statement from a career description site: "Demand for
>>>more specialized forms of hair treatment is expected
>>>to drive more customers toward multi-service hair
>>>salons and fewer toward traditional barber shops." My
>>>guess is that they're probably right, and that the
>>>market for the old traditonal male-bonding barber
>shop
>>>is decreasing.
>>>
>>>Sorry, I'm a crusty old coot in ways. I understand
>>>times are changing but this is one change I don't
>want
>>>to see.
>
>Guess I might as well chime in here too. I'm well
>into my 80s and have been going to the same barber for
>close to 30 years. But he's just turned 70 and is only
>working 3 days a week. I live in a senior area, so
>it's not unusual to see men in their 80s, 90s and up
>coming in for their haircuts. What are we to do when
>'Ken' retires for good? Sad to contemplate.

I live near a military base. If the barbers off base want business, they must be able to cut a military cut or flat top. We have some older barbers that are still keeping busy, and a few new one's. We have had a licensing problem in our state with beauty operators not allowed to cut hair without a barber's license. We had a few of the beauty operators that could cut hair better than the barbers.

Wex
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Change isn't always good (barber shops)


Author:
byte mangler
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Date Posted: 20:55:26 02/24/13 Sun

I can remember many many years back going into a barber shop and getting a proper shave (lather, straight razor).

How long has that been history?

bytemangler
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Change isn't always good (barber shops)


Author:
Wexwiz543
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Date Posted: 10:18:10 02/25/13 Mon

>I can remember many many years back going into a
>barber shop and getting a proper shave (lather,
>straight razor).
>
>How long has that been history?
>
>bytemangler
The problem with barber shaves is the relatively new risk of blood born diseases. To do a straight razor shave today, the barber would have to put on rubber gloves etc.

Wex


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