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Subject: Fish Coop


Author:
Boyd Percy
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Date Posted: 18:03:01 02/25/13 Mon

Since I live in the US Gulf South, I have no practical knowledge or experience about ice fishing. When Jim Wooten mentions his fish coop, I know he likes to go ice fishing on Spearfish Lake. Do fishermen lease spots on lakes to go fishing or is it first come, first served basis? How far from the shore would one place their fish coop? I know I could look this up on Wikipedia, but I would enjoy hearing from a forum reader with practical experience on this subject.

Thanks.

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[> Subject: Re: Fish Coop


Author:
Wes
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Date Posted: 13:34:31 02/26/13 Tue

It's been a long time since I've personally done any ice fishing, but since no one else seems to want to make an answer to this I'll take a crack at it.

There is no leasing or ownership of spots for ice fishing on public lakes, which are most lakes of any size. It's mostly first come, first served. Since some spots are perceived as better than others, sometimes a fisherman will place his fish coop (or shanty, as it's sometimes known) in one spot and leave it there all season. Fish coops are usually pretty comfortable, with a heater.

Other ice fishermen use portable windbreak shelters, or just spud a hole in the ice and sit out in the wind. On a calm, sunny day it's not totally unpleasant. In my day, the holes were opened with spuds, which are nothing more than chisels welded onto a pipe. These days it's not unknown to see chainsaws or power augers.

As far as how far from shore, it's dependent on water depth and other factors. Sometimes people fish far from shore -- like miles -- on the Great Lakes. The ice floes on the big lakes usually aren't complete and people take a risk of the wind changing and being blown offshore. Hardly a winter goes by that some walleye fisherman doesn't have to be rescued from Lake Erie, for example, usually by helicopter or hovercraft.

There are many ways to go about it. Most ice fishing, especially for panfish, is bait fishing. However. there is some spearing of larger species, such as pike. A weighted multi-point spear is used. This is where the fish coop is really favored -- it can be kept dark in order to be able to see down into the water.

With the mild winters we've been having, ice fishermen have mostly only had short seasons. Getting out on thin ice is risky; earlier this winter we had a couple guys die when they fell through fishing on thin ice. Ice depths can vary for a number of reasons, especially from depth or currents in the lake. Here in southern Michigan all ice shantys have to be off the lakes by March first. If the ice persists after that, there will still be people out there with or without portable shelters as long as they think it's safe.

Hope this fills you in a little.

-- Wes


>Since I live in the US Gulf South, I have no practical
>knowledge or experience about ice fishing. When Jim
>Wooten mentions his fish coop, I know he likes to go
>ice fishing on Spearfish Lake. Do fishermen lease
>spots on lakes to go fishing or is it first come,
>first served basis? How far from the shore would one
>place their fish coop? I know I could look this up on
>Wikipedia, but I would enjoy hearing from a forum
>reader with practical experience on this subject.
>
>Thanks.
[> [> Subject: Re: Fish Coop


Author:
Boyd Percy
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Date Posted: 21:27:45 02/26/13 Tue

>It's been a long time since I've personally done any
>ice fishing, but since no one else seems to want to
>make an answer to this I'll take a crack at it.
>
>There is no leasing or ownership of spots for ice
>fishing on public lakes, which are most lakes of any
>size. It's mostly first come, first served. Since some
>spots are perceived as better than others, sometimes a
>fisherman will place his fish coop (or shanty, as it's
>sometimes known) in one spot and leave it there all
>season. Fish coops are usually pretty comfortable,
>with a heater.
>
>Other ice fishermen use portable windbreak shelters,
>or just spud a hole in the ice and sit out in the
>wind. On a calm, sunny day it's not totally
>unpleasant. In my day, the holes were opened with
>spuds, which are nothing more than chisels welded onto
>a pipe. These days it's not unknown to see chainsaws
>or power augers.
>
>As far as how far from shore, it's dependent on water
>depth and other factors. Sometimes people fish far
>from shore -- like miles -- on the Great Lakes. The
>ice floes on the big lakes usually aren't complete and
>people take a risk of the wind changing and being
>blown offshore. Hardly a winter goes by that some
>walleye fisherman doesn't have to be rescued from Lake
>Erie, for example, usually by helicopter or hovercraft.
>
>There are many ways to go about it. Most ice fishing,
>especially for panfish, is bait fishing. However.
>there is some spearing of larger species, such as
>pike. A weighted multi-point spear is used. This is
>where the fish coop is really favored -- it can be
>kept dark in order to be able to see down into the
>water.
>
>With the mild winters we've been having, ice fishermen
>have mostly only had short seasons. Getting out on
>thin ice is risky; earlier this winter we had a couple
>guys die when they fell through fishing on thin ice.
>Ice depths can vary for a number of reasons,
>especially from depth or currents in the lake. Here in
>southern Michigan all ice shantys have to be off the
>lakes by March first. If the ice persists after that,
>there will still be people out there with or without
>portable shelters as long as they think it's safe.
>
>Hope this fills you in a little.
>
>-- Wes
>
>
>>Since I live in the US Gulf South, I have no practical
>>knowledge or experience about ice fishing. When Jim
>>Wooten mentions his fish coop, I know he likes to go
>>ice fishing on Spearfish Lake. Do fishermen lease
>>spots on lakes to go fishing or is it first come,
>>first served basis? How far from the shore would one
>>place their fish coop? I know I could look this up on
>>Wikipedia, but I would enjoy hearing from a forum
>>reader with practical experience on this subject.
>>
>>Thanks.



Wes, Thanks for the information and your insights.

I purchased the book and did a quick read through. A very good story which I believe all your fans will enjoy. I like it because it features a new character you've only mentioned in passing previously. I'll probably read it multiple times during the next seven weeks. I enjoy the journey much more than the final destination.

Boyd Percy


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