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Subject: Looking for Pan-STARRS


Author:
Wes
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Date Posted: 21:24:36 03/14/13 Thu

I just got in from an attempt to pick Comet Pan-STARRS out of the twilight. I think I got a very faint glimpse of it in thr 7x35 bird-watching binoculars I usually keep in the car. It was very hazy and hard to pick out, but the fuzzy patch seemed to be oriented in the right direction; it was hard to tell since it was hazy off in that direction. Either way, it's nothing like the "Great Comets" I remember, Arend-Roland in 1958 and Ikeya-Seki in 1965. Those two -- wow, you didn't need binoculars for them, you needed a lawn chair. The latter was visible across twenty degrees of sky, at least in my memory. There just have not been comets like those two since then.

Twenty years ago amateur astronomy was my main passion. I spent many nights out under a clear night sky with telescopes I'd built myself, and I got pretty familiar with the dark dome overhead. I still like to get out and check things out once in a while, but all of the friends that helped make my observing so fulfilling have dropped out, moved away, or in some cases passed on. My quick look for Pan-STARRS tonight was out at the best observing site in the area, a state-designated dark sky preserve that I helped to initiate -- yet there wasn't a soul around.

I remember spending any number of evenings with a telescope, looking for some faint fuzzy object in the sky. I got pretty good at it -- I hold Herschel Club certificate #98, which hangs on the wall by my shoulder. That probably means nothing to most readers here, so let's just say that it involved a lot of patience, perseverance and persistence over a period of a couple years. It also involved lot of time with my eye up to the eyepiece, often of the 13-inch "light bucket" I sold to finance my Grand Canyon trip, hopping from one faint star pattern to another to find the object I was searching for.

Part of the reason my interest in amateur astronomy faded was that computers came on the scene. All that work I did with star charts and finder scopes to hunt down one of those faint fuzzy objects -- well, it seems to me I did it honestly. Today, it's no great trick to punch some numbers into a keypad and watch the telescope swivel to the target by itself. Somehow, it doesn't have the same sense of accomplishment to me. In fact, it seems like cheating.

But that's neither here nor there. I had some good times back then, and I can at least enjoy remembering them. My vision isn't what it was back then, and I have to admit that I've moved on from those days, too.

By the way, there's another comet due this fall -- roughly October and November. I don't remember the details but they're easily looked up. I'll probably go out and try to hunt it up, even though it hardly seems likely that it will be one of those sky-filling "Great Comets" I remember from my youth.

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[> Subject: Re: Looking for Pan-STARRS


Author:
Boyd Percy
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Date Posted: 23:26:14 03/14/13 Thu

>I just got in from an attempt to pick Comet Pan-STARRS
>out of the twilight. I think I got a very faint
>glimpse of it in thr 7x35 bird-watching binoculars I
>usually keep in the car. It was very hazy and hard to
>pick out, but the fuzzy patch seemed to be oriented in
>the right direction; it was hard to tell since it was
>hazy off in that direction. Either way, it's nothing
>like the "Great Comets" I remember, Arend-Roland in
>1958 and Ikeya-Seki in 1965. Those two -- wow, you
>didn't need binoculars for them, you needed a lawn
>chair. The latter was visible across twenty degrees of
>sky, at least in my memory. There just have not been
>comets like those two since then.
>
>Twenty years ago amateur astronomy was my main
>passion. I spent many nights out under a clear night
>sky with telescopes I'd built myself, and I got pretty
>familiar with the dark dome overhead. I still like to
>get out and check things out once in a while, but all
>of the friends that helped make my observing so
>fulfilling have dropped out, moved away, or in some
>cases passed on. My quick look for Pan-STARRS tonight
>was out at the best observing site in the area, a
>state-designated dark sky preserve that I helped to
>initiate -- yet there wasn't a soul around.
>
>I remember spending any number of evenings with a
>telescope, looking for some faint fuzzy object in the
>sky. I got pretty good at it -- I hold Herschel Club
>certificate #98, which hangs on the wall by my
>shoulder. That probably means nothing to most readers
>here, so let's just say that it involved a lot of
>patience, perseverance and persistence over a period
>of a couple years. It also involved lot of time with
>my eye up to the eyepiece, often of the 13-inch "light
>bucket" I sold to finance my Grand Canyon trip,
>hopping from one faint star pattern to another to find
>the object I was searching for.
>
>Part of the reason my interest in amateur astronomy
>faded was that computers came on the scene. All that
>work I did with star charts and finder scopes to hunt
>down one of those faint fuzzy objects -- well, it
>seems to me I did it honestly. Today, it's no great
>trick to punch some numbers into a keypad and watch
>the telescope swivel to the target by itself. Somehow,
>it doesn't have the same sense of accomplishment to
>me. In fact, it seems like cheating.
>
>But that's neither here nor there. I had some good
>times back then, and I can at least enjoy remembering
>them. My vision isn't what it was back then, and I
>have to admit that I've moved on from those days, too.
>
>By the way, there's another comet due this fall --
>roughly October and November. I don't remember the
>details but they're easily looked up. I'll probably go
>out and try to hunt it up, even though it hardly seems
>likely that it will be one of those sky-filling "Great
>Comets" I remember from my youth.


In the first chapter of "Rocinante", Mark mentions the comet Ikeya-Seki that had passed by six years previously and Jackie replies that she got up early in the morning to view it and how spectacular it was. And of course, they took Mark's home-made telescope with them on their trip.

Wes, did you ever go to the Texas Star Party or Stellafane or do stargazing from the Southern Hemisphere like Mark?
[> [> Subject: Re: Looking for Pan-STARRS


Author:
Wes
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Date Posted: 23:51:17 03/14/13 Thu

>
>Wes, did you ever go to the Texas Star Party or
>Stellafane or do stargazing from the Southern
>Hemisphere like Mark?

Never made it to those two. I always wanted to but the chance never really came. I did go to Astrofest in Illinois several times, and I did get to see the Southern Cross from Australia.

-- Wes
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Looking for Pan-STARRS


Author:
ralph058
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Date Posted: 18:01:33 03/17/13 Sun

I've seen the Southern Cross from Christchurch and Sydney and Auckland harbors. On my bucket list is a visit to Mount John. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_John_University_Observatory

In Invercargill, they have an umbrella that is both a sun dial and a star map. It looks much better in real life
http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM77EP_Our_People_Time_and_Place_Sundial_Invercargill_New_Zealand


>>
>>Wes, did you ever go to the Texas Star Party or
>>Stellafane or do stargazing from the Southern
>>Hemisphere like Mark?
>
>Never made it to those two. I always wanted to but the
>chance never really came. I did go to Astrofest in
>Illinois several times, and I did get to see the
>Southern Cross from Australia.
>
>-- Wes
[> Subject: Re: Looking for Pan-STARRS


Author:
Mike
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Date Posted: 16:29:01 03/15/13 Fri

A friend of mine works at a college that has their own planaterium, an observatory with a Celestron 16 inch Schmidt-Cassegrain telescope and they are currently grinding the mirrors for a 42 inch.

I asked him in an email about using the school's 16 inch telescope to get a look, or even to run out to the LAAS local star party hill and he said "Unfortunately this comet is poorly-placed for us in the northern hemisphere. It'd be really awesome otherwise. The one coming up in the Fall will probably be better for us. One can only hope."
LAAS: http://www.laas.org/joomlasite/index.php/facilities/87-steve-kufeld-astronomical-site


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