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Subject: Re: UFC in Fort Bragg? Author: Hayman [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 18:09:24 09/30/08 Tue In reply to: Rodney 's message, "UFC in Fort Bragg?" on 15:17:27 09/25/08 Thu At one point, the UFC was the place to be. I can still see why fighters want to make it to the organization. When you're th biggest game in town, it's easy to become full of yourself. The problem I have with the UFC lies in the fact that upper management looks to fuck over the fighters any time one of them tries to pursue other ventures. Take a look at the whole Randy Couture situation. This guy is a friggin legend in the sport but Dana White & company take a shit all over him when he tries to leave the UFC. There was no leaving in peace to pursue other interests. It was only vindictive mudslinging that Dana White intended to do. The same situation happened with Tito. Even though Ortiz is a complete asshole, he still made the UFC plenty of money when they were a fledgling organization. When ZUFFA first took over, Ortiz was pushed as the brightest star of mma. So then he had a falling out with his former manager and then president of UFC. All of a sudden, White comes around badmouthing Tito and running him into the ground. Believe you me, I am no fan of Tito Ortiz. He is one of the most self righteous pricks in the MMA world. But, right is right and the UFC gave him a bad deal. The UFC coming to NC IS great. It'll make for a good show and solidify what many of us are trying to do in NC. MMA is a beautiful sport. The biggest name in the MMA world will only help out the scene in our state. But to all the up & comers out there....BEWARE! Just like you have to watch your back at all of these shitty fly by night MMA promotions springing up in the tarheel state...you'd better watch out for the UFC. Do you guys realize that most fighters are offered a contract only if they agree to sign away licensing rights to their name, image, and likeness? That's such shady business bullshit. This means that no fighter will be able to make money from his own image. They can't sell their own shirts or even make an instructional video without all portions of the monies earned going directly into ZUFFA's fat pockets. Imagine that! If you were a UFC fighter, you couldn't even sell your own signed autograph without first getting permission. The UFC holds their fighters by the short hairs. Believe it. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: UFC in Fort Bragg? Author: Neal Weaver [Edit] Date Posted: 23:26:25 09/30/08 Tue "Do you guys realize that most fighters are offered a contract only if they agree to sign away licensing rights to their name, image, and likeness? That's such shady business bullshit." How many professional fight contracts have you seen, because it was (and I am sure still is) for ANY promotion to have guys sign those things over as part of their contract, hell alot of amatuer shows have guys sign that over as well. I dont totally disagree about what you say about the UFC, but its Naive. The fight game is for grown ups period. And When I say grown ups I mean thick skinned, sharp witted, understanding that NO ONE is looking out for you and you had better damn sure look out for yourself or pay someone pretty good to do so. Grown men sign contracts. Grown men read these before they sign them. IF a grown man makes a mistake or changes his mind, I am not one to pity him or feel too sorry for him. Last I checked no one MAKES anyone do anything. Also as for Tito and Randy, yeah they caught some flak, but last I checked they are both millionaires too. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]