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Good cartoon -- Varmit, 15:58:28 09/11/06 Mon

http://www.cartoonistgroup.com/store/add.php?iid=11954

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- Article from Lewiston Round Up inside....>>>> -- Crystal, 16:34:49 09/11/06 Mon
  - I once knew a young lady called Animal Athlete. I didn't know at the time who her parents were, but it dawned on me a couple of years ago. If you see AA, tell her howdy. HaHa. (NT) -- Hap, 20:30:34 09/11/06 Mon
    - Will do. :-) (NT) -- Crystal, 06:54:03 09/12/06 Tue
      - I like that "put it in the ocean and turn right" style of navigation. I'm not a sailor but that's pretty much how I do things. Come to think of it, maybe that's why some of my friends started calling me Hap. Shortened Hap-Hazard. (NT) -- Hap, 11:24:13 09/12/06 Tue
        
        Guess who is now known as POP-EYE! (NT) -- Crystal, 11:37:28 09/12/06 Tue
        
        Funny thing, Pop-Eye was the first guy that came to mind. Good for Clyde. Was there any good stories from that five week trip to the right? (NT) -- Hap, 14:04:53 09/12/06 Tue
        
        I think the Coast Guard is still talking about him! (NT) -- Crystal, 15:36:13 09/12/06 Tue
        
        Isn't it really just about a 5 day trip with the wind out of the south? (NT) -- Varmit, 18:56:30 09/12/06 Tue
        
        Possibly. :-) IF the wind was blowing out of the south. Here on the left coast, it seems to mostly blow out of the west. He had to use his engines a lot. Then he would run out of deisel and have to be towed into a port by the CG. He also stopped and visited relatives in the Bay Area. Then he got stuck in a small Oregon port for a few days because of storms. (NT) -- Crystal, 07:06:55 09/14/06 Thu
        
        Well at least he got where he was going. Bet Hap would of ended up in Asia like me. (NT) -- Varmit, 07:31:22 09/15/06 Fri
Varmit, do you reckon that cow will still chouse your son-in-law to the fence if she becomes adopted family? -- Hap, 08:26:29 09/14/06 Thu

Conference outlines animal-rights agenda:

About 500 people representing several animal-rights groups attended the second annual "Taking Action for Animals" conference in Washington D.C. last week. According to a release from the Animal Agriculture Alliance, Wayne Pacelle, president of the Humane Society of the United States committed to redoubling the group's efforts against modern animal agriculture. According to the Alliance, Pacelle pledged his ongoing commitment to legislation and lobbying as key paths for the animal rights movement to move its agenda forward. He urged the audience to continue pursuing "animal guardianship" laws to replace animal ownership laws. For more information, go to www.drovers.com.

According to the release, Pacelle suggested using the term "Canine Americans" instead of dogs. Can "Bovine Americans"
be far behind?

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- She's gonna chase him no matter what part of the family you make her. That guardianship is a really dangerous deal that they are trying to push on. The laws would pertain the same to animals as a human. Its there way of getting rid of everything with animals. We would have to build modern houses for all the animals. (NT) -- Varmit, 11:02:31 09/14/06 Thu
  - This bill the House and Senate is trying to pass would be better if it involved more then just scientists and experments...... http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20060913-071828-7795r (NT) -- Varmit, 11:08:12 09/14/06 Thu
PDT Results -- Crystal, 11:42:46 09/12/06 Tue
Wanna see what's going on in Pendleton?

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- I do find it funny that on the poster one of the girls is riding a Paint. One of the R-Up royalty last year (or maybe the year before) had a Paint. They told her she needed to find a solid horse to ride. No Paints. Maybe the Paints & Appies are reserved for the Indians??? (NT) -- Crystal, 12:02:26 09/12/06 Tue
  - Thanks for the link. Guess they have say so over the steer ropers, whom seem to have more paints then any event or the saddle bronc horses. (NT) -- Varmit, 13:18:33 09/12/06 Tue
    - should of said, "no say so"....I gotta start hitting the edit button first. (NT) -- Varmit, 13:19:47 09/12/06 Tue
      - Crystal?....88 team ropers, 81 bulldoggers, 90 calf ropers..... is that normal numbers for Pendleton compared to a few years ago? (NT) -- Varmit, 06:24:21 09/13/06 Wed
        
        Probably pretty normal for the last few years. I remember when we worked it in the early '90's there were over 100 per event. (NT) -- Crystal, 07:03:43 09/14/06 Thu
It passed the House..... -- Hap, 15:54:03 09/07/06 Thu
now it goes to the Senate.(maybe)
Reckon those 263 guys have a warm and fuzzy feeling? They'd better make room for those 90,000 horses. Wonder what their plan is.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/07/horse.slaughtering/index.html

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- What plan??? (NT) -- Crystal, 07:05:26 09/08/06 Fri
  - Yeah, that's right, they've got no plan and haven't looked down the road far enough to see where they need a plan. A few years from now they can spend millions on a "study" trying to learn what to do with thousands of dying horses out there. Meanwhile, they can pat each other on the back for doing the "compassionate" thing. (NT) -- Hap, 08:14:20 09/08/06 Fri
    - Here's how they voted. I'm more surprised by the 106 votes at the top. ..............................http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll433.xml (NT) -- Hap, 08:21:52 09/08/06 Fri
      - *In my most sarcastic voice* "Oh gee what a surprise, my representative voted in favor of the bill. I would never have expected that. I am so shocked by this." Can you tell a have bleeding heart liberal for a state rep.? Writing my senators wouldn't do any good by the way. Just take a guess which way they'll vote. Sigh, I'd apologize for adding to the crazies in congress but I voted against both my states senators & my house rep. (NT) -- rose, 11:03:12 09/08/06 Fri
        
        Wonder how many people are going to get rich by creating a rescue horse non profit pay yourself high salary organization? I just wish all voting ballets had a "none of the above" box to vote in. Politicians might be surprised by the outcome. (NT) -- Varmit, 11:26:05 09/08/06 Fri
        
        They'll get a govt grant or something and live high on the hog on us! (NT) -- Crystal, 13:14:05 09/08/06 Fri
- Now is the time to let the Senate have the full force of the livestock owning population. They need to hear from us now, otherwise it will be lost. (NT) -- hart, 19:40:01 09/08/06 Fri
  - Hi hart and rose. (NT) -- Hap, 20:13:38 09/08/06 Fri
    - Hi Hap! (NT) -- hart, 22:18:23 09/08/06 Fri
    - hey Hap! (NT) -- rose, 06:28:47 09/11/06 Mon
Gonna put you on the spot now ZD. -- Varmit, 07:24:20 09/05/06 Tue
How cheap is gas out there? Should be the cheapest in the country.

I found some in Ohio that is going for $2.24 a gallon.

http://gasbuddy.com/gb_region.aspx?region=OH

Texas should be cheaper since they refine the most.

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- Varmit, didn't you know if it's Texas gas it should be of much more value than other gas? Maybe 15 or 20 bucks per gallon. Is that enough? (NT) -- Hap, 09:56:41 09/05/06 Tue
- Here is another place to check gas prices: Gas Stations (NT) -- Crystal, 10:53:28 09/05/06 Tue
  - This site says that the cheapes gas is in Morehead KY @ $2.039 a gallon. (NT) -- Crystal, 10:56:06 09/05/06 Tue
    - They just announced a new way to drill oil and lots of it..... http://www.forbes.com/business/2006/09/05/oil-drilling-gulf-cx_tvr_0905oil.html Dang I forgot about things being "better" in Texas. (NT) -- Varmit, 14:07:42 09/05/06 Tue
- Gas here is about $2.50. The gas is refined on the gulf coast about 250 mi. from me. Some is refined in West Texas. Diesel is still high. Near $2.85. I buy gas & diesel at a place where you just put your key card in and pump your own. I can get gas, diesel with or without tax. Just get a bill at the end of the month. Hap, I didn't say that a damned thing was better in Texas. I just said we got some of everything and the state is BIG. We got a lot of pretty women and some thats butt ugly too. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 14:45:05 09/05/06 Tue
  - Gas & diesel are down a nickel this week. Why is it that when we sell something it costs twice the price to buy it back? (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 13:01:34 09/07/06 Thu
    - Its $2.68 here that I have seen. May be some cheaper places. But is $2,43 to $2,50 thoughout most of north Florida. I have noticed that vehicle prices have came up some some gas has went down. ZD.. did you get some of that rain a few days ago? (NT) -- Varmit, 16:03:00 09/07/06 Thu
      - Still no rain. Got just enough mist to burn some trash a few days ago. Had to weld today and had to go get a bucket of water even before I plugged in the welder. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 14:44:52 09/08/06 Fri
        
        They still won't let us burn in our area. Got a nice size trash pile, should of burned it the first of July but did not get it done. Then we went 45 days without any rain starting the 10th of July and haven't had enough the last couple of weeks to bring the water table up enough to burn. (NT) -- Varmit, 20:01:29 09/10/06 Sun
ANOTHER Rodeo Message Board.... -- Crystal, 07:58:52 09/06/06 Wed
This one is run by SteveK that stops here occasionally, and was with us on the CBS board.

Here is his Board: ProRodeoConnection

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- I replaced the Rodeo Buzz link with the PRC link. Rodeo Buzz has shut down. (NT) -- Crystal, 08:01:33 09/06/06 Wed
It's been tough on the Aussies here lately. Just heard a few days ago that one of the kids that stayed here with us got killed in an auto accident and now the Crocodile Hunter news. There's a picture of Casey in this link if you can open it. Him and his dad spent 10 days with us and we also had a family from South Dakota staying here, and those two kids hit it off and became great friends. He was working on getting his paper work in order to come over here and rodeo. -- Hap, 14:23:45 09/04/06 Mon
#
newsletter 05-06-2005.indd (PDF)
Canadian provinces and Australia vie for national ... and Casey Dorrington (pictured). Magnificent. personal efforts by both these rodeo ...
www.nsra.org.au/newsletter 05-06-2005.pdf - 739k - View as html - More from this site - Save

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- Try this.....http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=australia+rodeo+casey+dorrington&fr=FP-tab-web-t500&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8 ..............scroll down to number four. (NT) -- Hap, 14:29:23 09/04/06 Mon
- Sorry for the bad news Hap --- (NT) -- Julie, 15:16:53 09/04/06 Mon
  - Sorry to hear the news Hap. Life is hard to figure out and hopefully one day we will get the answers. (NT) -- Varmit, 18:55:04 09/04/06 Mon
- Hap's Links: NSRA newsletter and Yahoo Search (NT) -- Crystal - sorry to hear it! (sad), 10:41:16 09/05/06 Tue
  - That Irwin guy was a little looney, but when flipping channels and you ran across him you couldn't help but to watch him for awhile. I just wish I had some of his enthusiasm when it comes to doing stuff. (NT) -- Varmit, 14:12:50 09/05/06 Tue
- Steve Irwin was Rylen's favorite TV personality. Animal Planet is supposed to be running a marathon of his shows. He'll be sure to watch! Rylen wants to be known as the "Dinosaur Hunter". At least dinos are extinct! (NT) -- Crystal, 16:05:27 09/05/06 Tue
  - Don't forget about cloning. Dino's might be back in the future. (NT) -- Varmit, 17:09:52 09/05/06 Tue
    - Rylen tried that when he was about 5 or 6 years old! He had watched Jurassic Park and figured he could make dinosaurs of some kind. We had ostriches and frogs, what more could you need??? LOL! Oh yeah, a horse needle & syringe to extract the reptile DNA FROM the frogs to inject into an ostrich egg. Luckily for the frogs, he never got to stick them with an 18 guage needle, but he had every intention of doing so! (NT) -- Crystal, 06:53:33 09/06/06 Wed
Remind me not to fly around Canada -- Varmit, 17:53:32 09/01/06 Fri
Pilot locks himself out of cockpit on a commercial flight.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2336849,00.html

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- I'm a little slow on the up take, but I just realized that Varmit is doing links!! (NT) -- Crystal (lol), 18:19:12 09/02/06 Sat
  - Varmet is a well rounded guy. Lives in the country where it never freezes, is a rodeo cowboy, computer nerd, will rope a calf to put in the trailer rather than putting the herd in the lot and then fly to the mountains to go fishin' for trout. I just got back from Chihuahua to see the PBR. Was actually on the plane with Joe Baumbartner & about 15 of the bull riders. Didn't make pictures. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 06:30:35 09/03/06 Sun
    - Thanks ZD... I guess that is a compliment....lol. (NT) -- Varmit, 08:49:12 09/03/06 Sun
      - I certainally meant it to be. I admire a guy that is secure in his own skin and yet not afraid to try something that might result in a mistake or two. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 10:27:17 09/03/06 Sun
        
        Well guess I am going to have to back off of those Texan jokes. Guess rose and Californeee will have to take the brunt. (NT) -- Varmit, 15:55:08 09/03/06 Sun
        
        I keep tellin' you folks that Texans love to be hated. It sets us apart. We are the only state that has the right do divide into several smaller states. We own our own coastal waters. We have the right to fly our flag at an equal height witht he US flag and our State Capitol is TALLER than the US Capitol. We refine more gasoline than all the states West of the Mississippi use. If you live in Orange, Texarkana, Amarilla or El Paso, you life closer to 4 other state capitols than you do your own. If you are in Texarkana you are only 50 miles further from Chicago than you are El Paso. The Big Thicket is one of the biggest swamps. The Permian Basin is one of the biggest deserts. Both are in Texas. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 15:18:37 09/04/06 Mon
        
        Everybody's a natural at something and from what you claim in the first sentence, you're a natural Texan. On the contrary, I know lots of Texans that I like just fine. Many are kin to me. (NT) -- Hap, 09:53:19 09/05/06 Tue
Barrel Racing Association got 6 -- Varmit, 09:41:31 08/30/06 Wed
of its thousands of members

to speak up for them.

http://www.wpra.com/News/contestant_support.htm

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- I sure would love to know the REAL story and who finally just pissed off the PRCA and they took their marbles and went home. (NT) -- Julie, 15:49:07 09/04/06 Mon
Ever Snuggle With a Cow From Switzerland? -- Crystal, 15:01:40 08/30/06 Wed
Click on this link: Never Hug a Swiss Cow!

Make sure you click on the discussion board that is highlighted in red print � �Discuss: Ever have a close encounter of the bovine kind?� It is almost at the bottom of the article.

LOL

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- Yikes.... need I say more about the message board. (NT) -- Varmit, 07:04:34 08/31/06 Thu
  - All this time I thought city dwellers didn't want cows on public land because they didn't want to get poop on their shoes. Never occured to me they were scared of them. (NT) -- Hap, 12:35:29 08/31/06 Thu
    - I got one cow in pasture that will chase everybody except me. If someone is close to me she will not bother them. A couple of years ago I took my son in law down the road with me. We had about 30 cows in that pasture, most all with calves. I said instead of penning them all lets just rope a couple and put them in the trailer. So we throwed out some hay around the outfit and roped one and put it in the trailer then got the second one. I told him, you trot on to the front gate and I will wait until you get the gate open and make a run for it while these cows are busy eating. He said what about that one cow. I said she aint gonna do nothing. We were about 700 feet from the gate. He took off on a hard trot and she spotted him and took off after him. Luckily he had 2 big oak trees about half way to the gate. Anyways, I had to come rescue him by putting the truck and trailer between him and the cow so he could get to the gate. Shes good at keeping trespassers out of pastures. (NT) -- Varmit, 16:46:09 08/31/06 Thu
- The story was interesting (sorta) but the blog of replies was a hoot--some people are are a complete waste of good air !!! It's scary to realize how far removed from understanding the source of food the world is (NT) -- Julie, 15:41:20 09/04/06 Mon
Grandma's, Grandpa's and rodeo -- Varmit, 16:24:51 09/03/06 Sun
And I thought my turning 4 year olds on Monday, grandson was the only one who went from one thing to another in a matter of minutes.

From an article:

When Forrest McGrew grows up he wants to be a cowboy, a fire fighter or an Army guy.

He changes his mind a lot, he said.

Saturday, the 4-year-old Windsor pre-schooler got his first chance at the cowboy side of his inspirations.

"It was like ... a ... like ... a ... sheep," Forrest said excitedly. "It was runnin' and runnin' and I was holdin' on tight. And I fell off. He goes really fast."

Forrest was one of many involved in the Buckfest youth bull riding competition, put on annually as part of the Windsor Harvest Festival by former Windsor cowboy Kevin Rich.

Forrest participated in the mutton bustin' show, which tests the riding skills of smallest cowboys and girls on top of a sheep -- or as Forrest put it: Hang on tight for as long as you can.

Forrest left the day satisfied with his 78 score and glad his mom and dad told him about it because his grandpa and grandma are cattle ranchers in South Dakota, and he wants to be just like his grandpa.

The hardest part was holding on, but was he scared?

"No," he said with out any hesitation and full of excitement. "I play basketball, baseball, tennis ball and soccer."

Since his 5th birthday is during the Harvest Festival, the chance to compete was an early birthday present, he said. But he also planned to spend the weekend playing on the "jumpy things" at the park and going to Friday's fireworks.

But the best birthday present was still to come: "Grandpa and Grandma," he said. They were expected to arrive later that day.

Although it took only a few seconds for Forrest's cowboy turn to end, he quickly turned his attention back to just being "almost 5" again, dancing around the bleachers and playing in the sand while the "big boys" took their turns.

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Killers -- Hap, 15:20:19 08/24/06 Thu
If they get the horse slaughter banned in the US, won't that just force all killers to be shipped to Mexico?
Won't the long trip make things worse than just leaving things alone and kill them this side of the border?
Don't want to sound anxious to kill a horse because I'm not. I will have one put down when he gets to where he can't get up without a struggle, just so he can avoid that kind of ending, but it's not hard to figure out they're necessary. There's just no other way.

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- I am beginning to think that right now is a bad time to be shutting them down... just got an e-mail with over 500 head of mostly AQHA horses at a 2 days sale and have seen many more just like this going on...... http://www.lollibros.com/hcat9061.htm (NT) -- Varmit, 19:17:14 08/24/06 Thu
  - I've just got back from the PBR in Chihuahua, MX. It has taken me until 9:00 tonight to get my business stuff tended to. One of my customers wants me to get rid of an old race horse that never ran. Not sound. I am within 100 mi. of 2 TX slaughter plants and I can't get the horse in. I will have to work with one of the horse buyers to get him to come get the horse and he will get a free horse. We need MORE killers not less. Sad to see the horse go but she needs to. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 19:00:42 08/29/06 Tue
    - How were thing down in Chihuahua? Big crowds? Lots of gringo's? (NT) -- Varmit, 11:42:55 08/31/06 Thu
      - Muchas Mexicanos, no muchas gringos. Gringos mostly bull riders, fighters & support. The venue sold out and we had to sit in the cheap seats. $250.00 pesos (=$24.00 usd) The weather was 66 @night & 88 in the heat of the day. Mountain shower every day between 5:00 & 7:00pm. Big drought in Mexico & the Heart of Texas too. Did you get rain? (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 12:23:30 08/31/06 Thu
        
        We got 1 inch of rain from Ernesto. Had a pretty good wind blowing last night for about 4 hours as the eye passed over our area. Just glad it didn't ashore down south as a Cat. 2 or 3 with the path it ended up taking. Not much down the middle of Florida from about this area on south. Just a big ol Lake in Okeechobee and then miles of Everglades with water everywhere. So not much to stop the power of a storm when it comes from down there. But still better then those that come in straight from the Atlantic. (NT) -- Varmit, 16:37:37 08/31/06 Thu
What a world we live in -- Varmit, 06:36:16 08/25/06 Fri
Boy being sued for saying the word "meow" at his neighbor

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060824/ap_on_fe_st/misdemeanor_meow

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PRCA vs WPRA Update -- Crystal, 16:22:19 08/23/06 Wed
Press Release from PRCA: PWBR announced

Reaction from WPRA: Hell Hath No Fury....

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- Well I look at it this way.... if the gold card members have to pay $500.00 a year to compete, then so should the barrel racers... us gold card members burned our underwear last year in protest and all it got us was less laundry. (NT) -- Varmit, 16:37:29 08/23/06 Wed
  - I'm all for less laundry.... (NT) -- Crystal, 07:18:10 08/24/06 Thu
    - I know a couple of the girls that rope in the WPRA although not real well, and also know the family from Wyo. of the riding Stevenson girls. Their dad's side came from NM. With all the barrel racers gone that only compete in the PRCA, it looks like hard times for the WPRA ropers and riders. And I was wondering about letting men in now. I think SF mentioned that on the bull board. There's a large barrel assoc here locally and my son used to go once in awhile with his wife and he told me there was a tinker running barrels and his boyfriend stood at the fence yelling "Go, bitch." (NT) -- Hap, 08:07:48 08/24/06 Thu
    - I know a couple of the girls that rope in the WPRA although we never see them anymore, and also know the family from Wyo. of the riding Stevenson girls. Their dad's side came from NM. With all the barrel racers gone that only compete in the PRCA, it looks like hard times for the WPRA ropers and riders. And I was wondering about letting men in now. I think SF mentioned that on the bull board. There's a large barrel assoc here locally and my son used to go once in awhile with his wife and he told me there was a tinker running barrels and his boyfriend stood at the fence yelling "Go, bitch." (NT) -- Hap, 08:09:26 08/24/06 Thu
      - I know a couple of the girls that rope in the WPRA although we never see them anymore, and also know the family from Wyo. of the riding Stevenson girls. Their dad's side came from NM. With all the barrel racers gone that only compete in the PRCA, it looks like hard times for the WPRA ropers and riders. And I was wondering about letting men in now. I think SF mentioned that on the bull board. There's a large barrel assoc here locally and my son used to go once in awhile with his wife and he told me there was a tinker running barrels and his boyfriend stood at the fence yelling "Go, bitch." (NT) -- Hap, 08:15:11 08/24/06 Thu
        
        HaHa what the heck did I do? (NT) -- Hap, 08:17:23 08/24/06 Thu
        
        Well one of them sued the barrel racing association and they threw it out of court. Women can team rope, ride broncs, whatever, but the men cannot run barrels in the womens barrel racing. They use to have lots of good barrel racings at PRCA rodeos that were not sanctioned by the WPRA. I think the new generation does not know about that. They think the WPRA has been controlling the PRCA rodeo barrel races since the beginning of time. Also I think in the long run it will be better for the top girls, belonging to the PRCA as far as sponsorships, etc. They will be representing the PRCA at the rodeos instead of the WPRA and I think more opportunities will open up for them. But thats just my opinion. (NT) -- Varmit, 09:10:55 08/24/06 Thu
        
        Hap.... they have changed the format on here.... once you hit the "send" button the first time, that is what is posted. No more editing before posting. (NT) -- Varmit, 09:13:37 08/24/06 Thu
"The nation�s largest veterinary associations and 143 other organizations concerned about the welfare of animals are opposed to H.R. 503." -- Hap (Tell your congressman "Whoa, vote no."), 08:46:52 08/22/06 Tue
Also check out this article on the right of page.

The Unintended Consequences of a Ban on the Humane Slaughter (Processing) of Horses in the United States.

http://commonhorsesense.com/index.php

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- It is surprising how many people out there are against slaughter houses. People you would never suspect until the subject comes up. (NT) -- Varmit, 09:01:02 08/22/06 Tue
  - Surely there is some way to get over this issue. We simply have too danged many horses and even more ill informed people to deal with. On the road from the pavement to my ranch, 4 1/2 miles there are over 20 horses and my 3 are the only ones that EVER get ridden. My oldest horse is ridden mostly by my grand kids and you could say she is retired. BelTex is just 80 mi. from my ranch and they are burdened by all sorts of ARA's to keep out of the public eye. We need much more slaughter not less. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 14:07:03 08/22/06 Tue
Does anybody know? -- Varmit, 12:04:08 08/21/06 Mon
What kind of action they are going to take?

http://wpra.com/News/8_18_06_announcement.htm

Burn their bra's?

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- They had their regularly scheduled meeting yesterday, so info on what was discussed should start making the rounds today. (NT) -- Crystal, 07:15:36 08/22/06 Tue
  - I just looked at a few of those messages on some of the barrel racing boards.... wheww.... are they all BLOND?...... they are as clueless as a Hollywood film actress on the subject. (NT) -- Varmit, 09:50:11 08/22/06 Tue
I'm a cowboy after all. -- Hap, 08:59:42 08/19/06 Sat
On the college finals the pickup man was loping a herd of broncs around the arena and Boyd says "if you enjoy watching those horses, that means you're a cowboy." I enjoyed it, so I'm in.
I also like to see the trees in the forrest, so I guess I'm also a logger.
I like to look at lots of things, so I guess I'm highly diversified as far as occupations go. I wear many hats, and even though I don't mind seeing pretty women, I don't wear a pimp hat. Sometimes I gotta draw the line.

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- I like trees to. Sheridan never bothered me, but when I spent those months in Goodwell I felt like I was in some kind of wasteland. I was sure glad to see trees after that experience. (NT) -- Varmit, 14:04:26 08/19/06 Sat
  - I like Oak and Pecan trees. Any other kind of tree ought to be in the yard or garden. Every garden needs peach trees. Mesquite & Cedar ought to be eradicated. I may buy another 65ac that joins me and I will sure have to run a bulldozer on it to get rid of a bunch of trees. Got to let the sun in to grow grass. That's the only crop I know how to sell without a bunch of tractors that cost more than a house. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 16:03:14 08/20/06 Sun
    - I like those Blue Spruce trees they have out west. We have lots of oaks down here. Hurricane and beetle bore bugs have been doing a number on the pine trees. Those Ponderosa pines are a much better looking tree then our Southern Pine. (NT) -- Varmit, 19:56:34 08/20/06 Sun
      - I like the Pinyon pines but everybody that has them hates them and say they are not good for anything. They sure smell good though. Every place I have been that has Pinyon Pines usually has a bear or two and I like to see a bear as long as they are across a big canyon goin' the other way. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 14:52:18 08/21/06 Mon
This year's college finals is on CSTV. -- Hap, 10:39:06 08/20/06 Sun
Right now CSTV is being shown for free till Sept 6 on Dish, don't know about the other systems, but on mine the free ones are right under the HBO and those channels so it won't hurt to look.
The college kids are tough and it's good watching.

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- By the way, it's not just highlights. All told there are several hours of it, I think maybe six. (NT) -- Hap, 10:44:42 08/20/06 Sun
  - No freebies for us on directv. But its nice to get a freebie. (NT) -- Varmit, 14:25:29 08/20/06 Sun
PRCA Board Meeting -- Spring Fling, 11:16:33 08/17/06 Thu
Couple points to note from yesterday's PRCA Board Meeting:

1) WPRA members will now have to become PRCA members to compete at PRCA rodeos. Don't know any of the details, but it looks like PRCA will have its own WBR, & bypass WPRA totally.

2) Circuits will now be on a point system, rather than standings based on $$. The Circuit Presidents voted UNAMIMOUSLY at Pocatello to keep the $$ system. When this was brought up to the Commissioner, he said it doesn't matter because the Circuit Presidents have no votes on the Board.

3) There was a petition going around to remove a certain person from a high profile (power?) position. The rule allowing removal by petition was deleted from the rulebook. This was NOT a unanimous vote, but passed none the less.

Call your event rep and let them know they are idiots.

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- Spring wrote, "Call your event rep and let them know they are idiots." They might hang up on me if I call them up and say your an idiot.....lol. Any news on the Gold Card members? (NT) -- Varmit, 11:46:47 08/17/06 Thu
  - Not that I was told, but I will check (NT) -- SF, 13:10:01 08/17/06 Thu
    - Thanks Spring Fling.... I was just pickin on ya on the way you worded that line :) (NT) -- Varmit, 13:42:30 08/17/06 Thu
      - Couldn't help myself! (NT) -- SF, 16:11:26 08/17/06 Thu
        
        It took them a few days... but they finally put it up on their website...... http://wpra.com/News/8_18_06_announcement.htm (NT) -- Varmit, 19:13:10 08/19/06 Sat
Anybody else heard about this? -- Varmit, 14:24:47 08/19/06 Sat
Under the Public Health Security and Bioterrorism Preparedness and Response Act of 2002, regulations regarding the transporting of hay will go into effect in December.

The new rules are designed to protect against serious threats to the food supply. The regulations relate only to transported hay that is destined to be fed to livestock entering the nation�s food chain, such as beef and dairy cattle, sheep and goats.

All size farms are affected, but those who grow hay exclusively for use in their own livestock operation will see no change in the current procedures. .

The regulations state that specific documentation must be kept by farmers if they sell, barter, give away or otherwise ship hay destined for use as livestock feed off the originating farm. If someone else does the hauling, then the responsibility for record keeping shifts to the transporter.

The Food and Drug Administration considers transporters to be anyone who has possession or control of an article of food for the sole purpose of transporting it by rail, road, water or air.

The transporter�s records must include both the source of the hay and the recipient, the origin and destination points, the date the shipment was received and the date it was released. A description of the freight and the number of packages must be noted.

The transporter also must keep track of the route the shipment followed, any transfer points during transport, and the name of each carrier involved in the shipping process.

The FDA requires that records concerning animal food be kept for one year. The documentation may be kept in either a paper or an electronic format. Currently, a standard bill of lading provides most of this information.

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- I haven't heard anything, and it would certainly affect a feedlot. But I don't deal directly with commodities (feed). (NT) -- Crystal, 15:07:05 08/19/06 Sat
Varmet, I saw Brad today. He was buying a few ropin' calves. They were paying up to $2.00 for them. Geez, he's a nice guy. No rain here still. We are working on our local hay show and we will have more people than hay bales to worry about this year. -- ZD Ranch, 16:00:04 08/14/06 Mon
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- Yeah, I seen where small calves had taken a jump. but they still not that high down here. More to choose from I guess. I know fat cows have fell off 10 cents a pound down here. Had a guy yesterday tell me just about everybody in North and South Dakota sold off their cows because of the drought. I know in southern Wyoming and northern Colorado, I saw very few cows compared to other years. But with no grass and the cost of hay, most do not have a choice. (NT) -- Varmit, 06:11:50 08/15/06 Tue
  - We got grass, but have not had any rain for over a month. So its dry right now. Maybe we all can blame it on Gore........ http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-08-09-gore-green_x.htm (NT) -- Varmit, 06:20:29 08/15/06 Tue
    - It's raining and raining here in southern NM --old timers say it's been since 1941 that we had rains like this. Flooding everywhere. And so now the rains have done what the drought WAS doing. Keeping hay prices sky high. Lots of black ruined alfalfa laying around. Up side is, there will be more pasture so maybe not such a high demand for the hay --except for the usual stable horses and dairys. (NT) -- Julie, 06:24:02 08/16/06 Wed
      - So the raindance finally worked. It won't take long for it to dry up and I imagine the cows will be happy for awhile. (NT) -- Varmit, 07:50:47 08/16/06 Wed
        
        It's so hot and dry here the cows are walkin' on their hind legs and carrin' a canteen & and umbrella with their front legs. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 11:35:32 08/16/06 Wed
        
        Take some photos of that and video and you'll be rich ZD. (NT) -- Varmit, 18:08:25 08/16/06 Wed
        
        Looking at tonights radar ( Wed ) I see its still raining in southern New Mexico. I bet there will be some plants sprout up that several generations of people have never seen out there before. (NT) -- Varmit, 19:34:09 08/16/06 Wed
        
        I visited with an old college pal I have not seen since 1959. He's from the Ft. Stockton area and they ranch 50 sections. They had about 18 months of above average rainfall out there before we visited. He told me that this was the first time in his life they had rain and a good market at the same time. I run more cattle on my 300 ac. than they do on 50 sections. You just can't grow much without rain. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 13:15:18 08/17/06 Thu
College Finals -- Hap, 18:10:06 08/01/06 Tue
Coming on CSTV Wednesday at 3:PM MDT. It shows it being on from 3 till 7 but it shows it being on an hour at a time so don't know if it's shown over and over or four different shows. Probably four different ones since they're back to back.
CSTV is in between OLN and Outdoor Channel on mine.(Dish)

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- Don't think I get that on Directv. But I am in Wyoming right now, so maybe my relatives get it on their setup. Things are really burnt up in this part of the world. Going to be a rough winter for cattle. Bet I saw at least 8 semis of hay headed south after I left the Denver airport and got on I 25 from about Loveland to Cheyenne yesterday. (NT) -- Varmit, 08:10:40 08/02/06 Wed
  - It was the 2005 Finals but since I hadn't seen it it was OK. That's lots of veiwing and I only watched part of it. (NT) -- Hap, 17:34:09 08/02/06 Wed
    - They didn't get it up here anyways. I am heading for the mountains and see if I can catch some rainbow trout. (NT) -- Varmit, 06:57:45 08/03/06 Thu
      - Well, how was the fishing trip? (NT) -- Hap, 08:23:18 08/14/06 Mon
        
        It was good Hap... was up there a total of 5 days off and on. Caught 13 trout one day. Flew back home Saturday. Sure could use some of that 7% humidity they had up there last Thursday. (NT) -- Varmit, 09:55:57 08/15/06 Tue
NM wins TWO (three) National HS titles :) -- Julie, 18:49:03 07/30/06 Sun
Jordan Muncy ended up with the NHSRA barrel racing title, her horse, Shut up and Deal (SMOKE she calls him) won the AQHA horse of the year (that got her a saddle and big scholarship).

Chase Massengill won the tie down title---

AND Taos made a short go at Cheyenne in the SB...doesn't get much better for a rodeo family :)..

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- Good going for those kids and good going Utah kids. (NT) -- Hap, 19:47:16 07/30/06 Sun
  - Good for the Muncy family. I was pulling for the DeWees girl since I sold her mother, or should say her grandfather a horse back when her mother was a teenager. But I see she had lots of problems in the short round after going into the short round in 2nd place. Looks like ZD has braggin rights on this board as Texas was 2nd. (NT) -- Varmit, 07:25:15 07/31/06 Mon
    - Varmit, if I remember right, Florida bareback riders finished 1 and 2. That's not too shabby. Texas has around 10 regions in the state and the best advance from the regions to state and on to nationals. Pretty good deal down there because the kids don't have to travel the entire state like here. The cream comes to the top and they have tough kids every year. I think it was Kansas I saw on RFDTV last year and they had one kid in the bronc riding at the state finals and he bucked off. I reckon he was the state champion no matter, so some states are just going to send tougher kids year after year. (NT) -- Hap, 08:49:55 07/31/06 Mon
- Taos ended up 6th in the average at Cheyenne--there were only TEN bronc riders to qualify on all three horses--out of 101 entered. (NT) -- Julie, 10:11:55 07/31/06 Mon
  - The web site shows a bunch of guys qualifying on 2 horses, but they put 4 guys in the short round on 1 horse according to the web site instead of some of those other with 2 qualified rides.... talk about confusing... yikes...... http://cfdrodeo.com/eventscore.cfm?eventid=5 (NT) -- Varmit, 18:57:13 07/31/06 Mon
    - According to that site... 31 guys rode 2... but it must of really been 35 unless they have a really weird rule where guys on 1 take the place of those who ride 2. (NT) -- Varmit, 19:02:24 07/31/06 Mon
      - Okay Now I"M confused :) (NT) -- Julie, 21:37:52 07/31/06 Mon
- we are proud to have Lincon County put on the map -- Connie (happy), 17:33:47 08/11/06 Fri
  - Hi Connie :) (NT) -- Julie, 20:17:45 08/12/06 Sat
Big stink over use of hot shot in bucking events at Cheyenne. -- Varmit, 20:07:51 08/06/06 Sun
Long story

http://www.wyomingnews.com/news/more.asp?StoryID=108327

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- Varmit's Link: Prod of Electricity (NT) -- Crystal, 07:23:56 08/07/06 Mon
  - Letter to editor in todays paper, one of S.H. buddies from Californee pointing out the cruelty and the web site... www.shameoncheyenne.com .... calf roping photos really not as bad as they could of gotten. specially for jerk down photos. (NT) -- Varmit, 20:19:37 08/09/06 Wed
Cheyenne Saddle Bronc Riding -- Varmit, 17:03:25 07/29/06 Sat
They must of brought in some tough horses yesterday at Cheyenne for all these guys, and they are just a few of the listed, that got bucked off:

Wright, Cody William 7 7/28/2006 NS

Slagowski, Ira D 7 7/28/2006 NS

Mortensen, Daniel E 7 7/28/2006 NS

Marvel, Matt M. 7 7/28/2006 NS

Lemmel, Ronny L. 7 7/28/2006 NS

Martin, Daniel Jeffr 7 7/28/2006 NS

Griswold, Robert L. 7 7/28/2006 NS

Hay, Denny M. 7 7/28/2006 NS

Hay, Roderick E 7 7/28/2006 NS

DeMers, Cody Joe 7 7/28/2006 NS

Erickson, Daniel Jos 7 7/28/2006 NS

Etbauer, Billy J. 7 7/28/2006 NS

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- Has anybody ever seen a bull cry?.....http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/state/15154170.htm (NT) -- Varmit, 06:57:18 07/30/06 Sun
  - He probably said bawl or beller and a city reporter inserted cry. We're glad Julie's a bumpkin reporter and that's a compliment. (NT) -- Hap, 19:40:17 07/30/06 Sun
    - I am not believing any rodeo web sites anymore after this deal. Half those guys listed as having no score were in the short round and they still have them listed as no score on their first one. (NT) -- Varmit, 07:28:11 07/31/06 Mon
      - I love being a bumpkin reporter :) :) Wouldn't know how to be any other way. (NT) -- Julie, 15:40:00 07/31/06 Mon
The race is on for those on this message board -- Varmit, 07:10:33 07/27/06 Thu
State Team Standings after the 1st go round of the NHSRA.

Florida...... 4th
Texas........ 6th
Oregon....... 8th
Calif........ 9th
New Mexico... 13th
Alberta...... 19th
Arkansas..... 21st
Washington....22nd

http://nhsra.com/images/currentwedeven.pdf

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- The Utah kids are getting after it. (NT) -- Hap, 09:16:35 07/29/06 Sat
  - For a state is ranked 34th in population they sure have some tough rodeo kids every year. Seems like they are always the team to beat every year. (NT) -- Varmit, 12:11:03 07/29/06 Sat
Here is another weird one for ya. -- Varmit, 10:07:42 07/26/06 Wed
You can't tell me that all 82 bulldoggers that were out on

7/25/2006

at Cheyenne had a no time.

http://cfdrodeo.com/eventgoscore.cfm?eventid=7&go=1

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- I see Taos Muncy is sitting 3/4 in the SB average. (NT) -- Julie, 17:11:06 07/26/06 Wed
  - Did you do alot of math to figure that out or is there a page I am not finding? (NT) -- Varmit, 19:25:42 07/26/06 Wed
- If you go the page that lists all the events, click on SB riding..it gives you the scores for first, second, short and average---if you click on the column you want it wil sort that go out in order ..and so on--:) No math... go here http://cfdrodeo.com/score.cfm (NT) -- Julie, 22:43:33 07/26/06 Wed
  - Well that one zoomed over my head. Been on there a week clicking on Go1, Go2, Short Round results next to the event name and never thought about clicking on the event name itself. Figured they had just left the average leaders link off the page. (NT) -- Varmit, 06:01:40 07/27/06 Thu
National HS finals start today :) -- Julie, 15:18:04 07/24/06 Mon
Has to be hundreds of excited kids milling around Springfield :) Best wishes to them all but don't expect I won't be pulling the hardest for the NM kids :)

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- I went on the web site and clicked on National Finals and then results but all I got was 2005... they usually have the draw posted and results of the morning perf by mid afternoon... need the guru's back to find it for me.... www.nhsra.com (NT) -- Varmit, 18:36:57 07/24/06 Mon
- Varmit, they don't have the draw posted this year...and the link to the results is right on the front page mid way down--says 2006 finals results....that will take you to a page where they are posting them after each perf. I wish the draw was there like before so I knew when "our" kids were up---it'll be the end of a go before I know the bullrider from here bucked off---unless he places. So I'm not happy with it either :) (NT) -- Julie, 18:54:00 07/24/06 Mon
- One of the local (from here) dad's called and said it could be heard on the internet at http://www.sportsradio1450.com/main.html but so far I haven't had any luck with that. I did listen to the station this afternoon so I know It WAS working. (NT) -- Julie, 19:03:21 07/24/06 Mon
  - I e-mailed the NHSRA last night and got this reply >>>>>>>>>> -- Hap, 08:48:20 07/25/06 Tue
    - Good to see you back Hap... did you get that fence down there on the Mexican border finished? (NT) -- Varmit, 10:59:45 07/25/06 Tue
    - "due to the complexities"...what a bunch of b.s.---and "your competitor on the grounds should be able to tell you when they compete"...I guess it never occured to them how many I'm watching for!! I think I'll write too Hap so they know I'm not happy and don't buy that answer!! (NT) -- Julie, 06:31:21 07/26/06 Wed
      - Sounds like a politician. Amazing that they can put up the results, but not put up who has been drawed for the perfs. Wonder if they have ever checked out other rodeo web sites? You go get'm Julie. (NT) -- Varmit, 06:53:49 07/26/06 Wed
        
        I gottem :) Check your email Varmit..sent you the draw.--Just talked to Johnnie Muncy--Jordan is sitting 4th in the barrels with one more perf to go. And our bull rider from here (Hondo) is SECOND in the bullriding with an 84 score! NM also won the volley ball and golf tournaments. Competitive bunch of whelps aren't they!!! :) OH yah, and Jordan's barrel horse (Shut up and Deal--they call him Smoke) is sitting first for AQHA horse of the year. Johnnie said to win that gets a $5000 scholarship and a saddle! She said Jordan was as exited about Smoke as she was about her placing in the barrels. (NT) -- Julie, 12:34:46 07/26/06 Wed
Prescott -- Varmit, 10:07:47 07/18/06 Tue
Did anybody watch the rodeo on TV?

I turned it on right at at 10 pm when it came on our time, but they had already started. Was curious if they put up the "warning" label before the start of this one.

Albertagirl.... did you get to watch any of the calf roping or watch any of it on TV? Got a couple of questions for you if you did.

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- Albertagirl... I was referring to Calgary for you. (NT) -- Varmit, 06:36:46 07/19/06 Wed
  - For Cheyenne results which says 2005, but is really 2006, todays results, in calf roping, team roping and barrel racing ( which is isn't up at this momemt ) just click on go one of those events at .......... http://cfdrodeo.com/score.cfm (NT) -- Varmit, 17:02:55 07/19/06 Wed
- I saw all of it up close and personal. What are you wondering about? (NT) -- Albertagirl, 09:14:35 07/20/06 Thu
  - What happened to Fred and Cody on Sunday? Also what about Trevor during the week? Draw bad, horse stopping to hard? (NT) -- Varmit, 09:59:06 07/20/06 Thu
- Looked to me that Fred just plain missed. Cody's calf got up before the 6 seconds were up. Trevor was off every run, not sure why though. The calves were decent and the horses looked to be doing their jobs. (NT) -- Albertagirl, 10:51:20 07/20/06 Thu
  - Thanks Albertagirl.... guess you have gotten a chance now to catch up on some of that sleep you missed out on for 10 days. (NT) -- Varmit, 10:56:32 07/20/06 Thu
- I am well-rested now, but I miss the rodeo already! Can't wait for next year ;) (NT) -- Albertagirl, 11:01:44 07/20/06 Thu
Somebody post something. It's gettin' boreing here. Heck, I may pick a cuss fight with Hap just to have something to talk about. -- ZD Ranch, 14:21:12 07/15/06 Sat
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- Hmmm.... Is there a chance of me learning some new words in this cuss match? If not, well I guess I'll ask did you all hear about the clowns with hammers? It's a little bit old, but funny just the same. For your reading pleasure go here>>> http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002531.html (NT) -- rose, 14:41:44 07/15/06 Sat
  - Ain't it just like a Texan.... want someone to post something... then dissappear. No wonder those Mexicans got ticked off at the Alamo. (NT) -- Varmit, 19:58:36 07/16/06 Sun
    - I visited with your old pal Brad McReynolds today at the auction. He's had either knee surgery or hip surgery. He's not back ropin' yet but still buys a bunch of ropin' calves nearly every week. He looks good but has put on a few pounds. Varmit, what Sam Houston said was true. "Texas can survive without the US but the US can't survive without Texas." (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 17:33:24 07/17/06 Mon
      - Yeah Brad is getting up there like the rest of us where things start falling apart. Don't know about out there, but ropin calves have come down in price around here quite a bit compared to 2 to 3 months ago. (NT) -- Varmit, 20:02:08 07/17/06 Mon
        
        They were paying $1.30 to $1.75 Monday. Hay is high too. Round bales are selling for $50.00 to $65.00 and you are luckey if you can find some. I have 75 and am not selling any of it. There are 71 yearlings on my ranch and only 5 of them are mine. All of them are paying pasture but they bring in only about half what my feedlot cattle are costing in feed bill. The ony place in Texas where it's raining is in Muleshoe where my steers are and all I get out of it is wet steers. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 11:26:38 07/18/06 Tue
        
        They bringing from about $1.20 on the low end of heifers and $1.35 on the steers. A few months ago all roping calves were bringing from about $2.10 to $2.40. 300 pounds and up are still bringing a decent price. (NT) -- Varmit, 11:41:24 07/18/06 Tue
        
        At the end of June when we sent my calves to the feedlot they would not have brought over $85.00. The day I got the first feed bill the market in the Panhandle was quoting them @ $107.00. Most likely won't bring that now as fats are off some but I figure the first full months feed bill is paid just by the increase in value from being in cattle feeding country. Of course the haulin' ran over $20.00 a head. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 18:46:48 07/18/06 Tue
Howdy :) -- Julie, 06:00:10 07/16/06 Sun
Just hobbled by to say hello and that I haven't quit talking/typing, just not much extra time this time of year!! Throw in a move to another place and I'm meeting myself coming and going--carrying boxes both ways.

Hope every one is having a good summer. It rained here a week ago and things got green in a hurry--now it needs to do it again. This heat is sucking the life out of the tiny green pretty fast!

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- Where you moving to? Hollywood? (NT) -- Varmit, 06:38:12 07/16/06 Sun
- *laffin* not hardly...moved to the other side of the tracks --sorta. Same zip code (NT) -- Julie, 18:25:10 07/16/06 Sun
For ZD's sake -- Varmit, 17:22:17 07/15/06 Sat
Well lets see. How about Calgary. Who ever said the cream rises to the top, not so at that rodeo.

Here's a list of guys and gals that did not make it to the big money on Sunday:
Brazil, Beaver, Myers, Graves, Blair, Swor, DeMoss, Mote, Timberman, S. Lord, Charmayne, Cervi, Suhn, Mote, Timberman just to name a few.

And how about those PBR guys. Bucked off to not make the cut, Adriano, JW, Peterson, Potter.

But I think the Saddle Bronc Riding and Calf Roping have the best field for Sunday.

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A Bad Deal....Nice Kid, Nice Family..... -- Crystal, 09:15:35 07/10/06 Mon
Idaho Statesman article

Obituary on Circuit Website:

Blaise Black

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Cowboy Christmas has slowed down over the years. -- Varmit, 10:12:08 07/06/06 Thu
Use to be about 6 rodeos was the least most guys went to.
Here is the list of number of rodeos some guys went to between June 27th and July 4th.

Barebacks.... Gray- 1 rodeo, Garrett, Jr- 2 rodeos, Jones- 3 rodeos, Harris- 3 rodeos

Saddle Bronc... C. Martin- 1 rodeo, J. Martin- 2rodeos, Griswold- 3 rodeos, Stroh- 1 rodeo, Etbauer- 2rodeos

Bulldoggin... Graves- 1 rodeo, Sumpter- 2rodeos, Fields,Bell,jr,and Branquinho- 3 rodeos

Calf ropin...Whitfield-2 rodeos, Jarret and Myers- 3 rodeos, Ohl- 4 rodeos

Bull ridin... Austin, Harris, Hancock- 3 rodeos, Silcox - 4

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- Varmit, you are a wealth of information!! Where do you find all this stuff? (NT) -- Crystal, 12:31:29 07/06/06 Thu
  - I do alot of math from the pressbox page. (NT) -- Varmit, 08:20:59 07/07/06 Fri
Sounds like some cows I have had in the past. -- Varmit, 08:19:51 07/07/06 Fri
PAMPLONA, Spain (July 7) - An American man was thrown by a young cow and seriously injured Friday in a mock bull fight following the first day of the running of the bulls in Spain's San Fermin festival.

The man, a 31-year-old from New York, was thrown in the bullring by one of five young cows released after the run. Officials said he could not move his legs and was taken to the Hospital de Navarra for an emergency operation. The man was identified only by his initials, R.D.

"He is in very serious condition and could be paralyzed for life," said Pello Pellejero, a Pamplona government spokesman. A hospital official confirmed on condition of anonymity that the man was being operated on urgently.

Six people were injured during the bull run itself, including two seriously

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Wish now that I would of printed out the list -- Varmit, 20:17:20 07/03/06 Mon
Looked at the list about a month ago of who was going to Calgary, now if memory serves me correct I think in the bull riding Justin McBride and Chris Shivers was on that list. But now they are not on the list.

Not sure about the other events.

And I thought Charmayne had retired?

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- She had retired, but when Calgary invited her she couldn't resist. I spoke to her in Vegas last year, and she was very excited about the concept. As for McBride & Shivers, they were eligible, but declined the invitation. Don't forget that each contestant has to sign an exclusivity contract with Calgary which prevents them from leaving the city for at least 4 days (5 or 6 if they make the wild card/finals), AND they have to make personal appearances at Calgary's discretion. (NT) -- Albertagirl, 08:15:48 07/04/06 Tue
  - They probably make much more money with their sponsors then what Calgary is going to pay, and probably do not want to risk the sponsorship. Which probably proves the point over on the Tinker board about guys not trying to hard when they get a little rocked on their hand. Staying healthy and having sponsors seems to be way more important then winning all the money you can nowadays. (NT) -- Varmit, 09:10:49 07/04/06 Tue
    - If I were a sponsor, I'd insist my billboard/cowboy be present in the Calgary arena. That rodeo is show relentlessly all over the world throughout the entire year. Can't get much more exposure than that! (NT) -- Albertagirl, 09:17:00 07/05/06 Wed
      - Well, GOOD!!!! Watch for the stock dog trials. My pal Jimmy Walker is coming back to defend his World Championship. While he's gone his practice cattle are at my ranch grazing and resting. He will also be wearing a lanyard to hold his whistle. I made the lanyard for him and all the knots in it are Matthew Walker knots. Jimmy tells me that his favorite uncle is named Matthew Walker. That's the only knot in all of knot tying that is named after a person. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 15:15:32 07/05/06 Wed
        
        I'd love to go to the dog trials, but I'm working the rodeo and can't get away until late evening. I did see the stock dogs a couple of years ago and they were phenomenal! Wish Jimmy luck for me! :) (NT) -- Albertagirl, 15:43:16 07/05/06 Wed
        
        I can't. He's already up there and you will have a chance to see him before I do. We'll both send him cyber good wishes here though. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 11:34:35 07/06/06 Thu
Here's a little light reading for ya! Everything you ever wanted to know about the 2006 Calgary Stampede..... http://corporate.calgarystampede.com/client/media/329/330/2006_media_guide.pdf -- Albertagirl, 09:41:17 07/05/06 Wed
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- Well stupid me..... it says Calgary is been shown on Global TV.... however, I cannot find it listed on Direct TV.... only thing I can find is that it is a Canadian TV station. So wondering how people in the US are going to be able to watch it? (NT) -- Varmit, 19:09:40 07/05/06 Wed
  - According to the website they going to only show the parade and the final Sunday showdown, not all the perfs like it use to be...... http://www.canada.com/globaltv/calgary/stampede/index.html (NT) -- Varmit, 19:57:02 07/05/06 Wed
    - Global is strictly Canadian. I've been trying to find out if any American stations are picking it up, but I'm not having any luck. Stampede TV is broadcasring full coverage of the rodeo & chucks daily, but that is only a local broadcast. If I find anything else out, I'll let you know. (NT) -- Albertagirl, 21:01:02 07/05/06 Wed
      - Well crap.... there goes your chance ZD to see your stock dogs and all the sponsorship you included. I told ya they were gonna get even for closing the border over the mad cow disease..... thanks Albertagirl. (NT) -- Varmit, 06:20:00 07/06/06 Thu
I didn't want to post any new messages, since it seems like I am the only one on the board most of the time, but...... -- Varmit, 18:14:24 07/04/06 Tue
Did anybody watch Reno Rodeo on Fox?

Whats the deal with warning people that the program contains graphic details and parental guide is recommended before they show the rodeo?

Wonder who is behind that? Its almost makes people think that rodeo is cruel and violant.

As far as the 4th of July, well we got braggin rights down here when it comes to fireworks. I live about 45 miles from the Space Center and they shot off the space shuttle today. You can see it very clerly from my house with the naked eye. There was a few puffy clouds in the way at times, but still viewalble most of the trip until it got out of sight. On a real clear day you can see the external tanks fall off when they release them with the naked eye.
The night lauches are the real good ones. Light up the whole sky.

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- I wondered that myself too, until I saw poor Jason McClain break his leg OUCH!!! I figured that's what it referred to. (NT) -- Bruce, 06:24:22 07/05/06 Wed
  - Guess I will have to watch the next one that comes on and see if they say the same thing. (NT) -- Varmit, 09:41:13 07/05/06 Wed
    - They're required to give that rating before any program that has a chance of bloodshed occurring. They give the warning before an all bull riding event, or they're supposed to. Yet when they aired an all team roping not too long ago there was no parental guidance warning. So it has nothing to do with the animals, and everything to do with the riders. This is part of the rating system that started with Tipper Gore, for music , video games & TV. There was no real definable rating for before mentioned media, before that. On the same sort of note, if there is cussing or just hinting at sex they're also required to give a parental guidance warning. (NT) -- rose, 10:42:36 07/05/06 Wed
      - I guess the reason I found it to be a surprise is the fact thats its the very first time I have ever seen it put up before a rodeo was broadcast. They got plenty of time to edit out any bloodshed, I looked at it more of like something an animal rights activist would like to see before each airing. But then maybe I am looking at it wrong or interpreting it wrong. Or maybe it was the fact my wife heard me say, What kind of crap is this?... when they put it up. (NT) -- Varmit, 14:18:49 07/05/06 Wed
Might get a little muddy in Greeley after looking at the current radar -- Varmit, 17:08:01 07/03/06 Mon
Greeley is in Weld county. Perf starts pretty soon with Finals tomorrow afternoon

...FLASH FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT UNTIL MIDNIGHT MDT TONIGHT...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN DENVER HAS EXPANDED THE

* FLASH FLOOD WATCH TO INCLUDE PORTIONS OF EAST CENTRAL COLORADO AND NORTHEAST COLORADO...INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING AREAS...IN EAST CENTRAL COLORADO...NORTH AND NORTHEAST ELBERT COUNTY BELOW 6000 FEET/NORTH LINCOLN COUNTY AND SOUTHEAST ELBERT COUNTY BELOW 6000 FEET/SOUTH LINCOLN COUNTY IN NORTHEAST COLORADO... CENTRAL AND EAST ADAMS AND ARAPAHOE COUNTIES... CENTRAL AND SOUTH WELD COUNTY...MORGAN COUNTY AND NORTHEAST WELD COUNTY.

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Out on the highway... alot of crazy people go by.... -- Varmit, 09:44:05 07/01/06 Sat
Raod rage considered a mental illness.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-06-05-rage-disorder_x.htm

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Stampede -- ZD Ranch, 09:01:48 06/27/06 Tue
Last Monday I went to the ranch with the intention of spending the night and gettng my steers ready to ship to Muleshoe for the feed lot. Things went well on Monday. I saddled Little Satan and stationed him on the hittichin' rail by the tack room. Then I drove the 'Billy Goat' (red dodge) to the back pasture and began to call the boys. They were in knee deep in grass but the grass was gettin' mature and tuff so they gladly came to the truck and I led them all the way to the front pasture and into a 20ac hay field that had been cut 2 weeks earlier. Though it took about a half hour all the steers showed up and began grazing the fresh grass and all seemed right witht he world. That evening about 8:00pm I saddled PeeWee and we moved the boys into a trap so they could be penned at 8:00am, then hauled to the holding pens at the truckers house.

Tuesday morning was a bit of a strange day. It had showered overnight and the cool damp air felt good to all us critters but the boys seemed somehow, different. I got 'em moved into a 1/4 mile lane leading to the pens and they were moving kinda slow so I was glad that I was back on Little Satan and could use my bull whip. Just as the 2nd or 3rd steer walked into the pens all Hell broke loose. In an instant, every single one of my 69 steers turned and stampeded right at Little Satan & me. Everybody I have told this story to just thinks it was a bunch os cows runnin' away. That wasn't it at all. It was a full fledged STAMPEDE. I have only seen one other one in my 66 years. The cattle moved just like a school of fish. Every one in the same direction. The noise was deafening and nothig would stop them. They were not thinking they were reacting. It was a phenenom that I never want to witness again but one that I am thankful I got to see and survive. Steers brushed me on both sides. Little Satan was running backwards as fast as a 14hh horse can trot in reverse. I can tell you for sure that a horse can NOT canter in reverse but they can trot fast.

I was scared out of my wits but I managed to stay incontrol of LS until the last steer passed and then he 'blew' a little and walked calmly back to where the steeres had stoped under a little bunch of cedar trees.

If you ever want to find out if you are still alive and be sure your heart is working I suggest you be involved in a full fledged stampede. Every nerve cell in your body will be active and all the horsemanship you ever knew will come into play. It's no fun while it's going on but thrilling when it's over. Fifty thousand pounds of anything coming at you as fast as four legs will carry it is frightning, loud and surprising.

What caused the stampede? Who knows? It might have been a cottontail, a butterfly or ole' ben Lauden himself. I have no clue.

All the boys rode well on their trip to the Panhandle and ate their supper in Muleshoe, Texas on Thursday after their ride nearing 500 miles on Wednesday. The next time I see one of them will likely be on Christmas day when I cook a Prime Rib for my family. Until then I am sure the feed lot manager will keep me informed on how they are doing as the feed bill will start out at about a hundred bucks a day.

Eat more Beef.

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- ZD, glad to hear your still alive. Not having a Texan on the board to pick on would be the pits. Since it will be awhile before you have more cattle, guess your going to have to go skydiving to get that adrenaline rush. Let me know what gives you more, stampede or skydiving..... by the way, we have had over 6 inches of rain in the last 4 days, so guess we will have plenty of summer grass now. (NT) -- Varmit, 07:35:49 06/28/06 Wed
  - I was struttin' 'round the house bragin' 'bout not havin' but 6 head of cattle to tend to and havin' 3 horses to do it on. My eldest son told his girl friend that I would have the ranch stocked again in 2 weeks. That night I got 2 telephone calls from people wanting to put cattle on me. Tomorrow I get 50 heifers and Sunday I'll get 24 steers. Now I am gettin' calls wantin' to buy my hay. I think I'll just be a cow baby sitter again for a while. May be I can make enough to pay my feed bill at the feed yard. Never worry about pickin' on a Texan. If you don't pick on us we think you are mad. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 12:47:17 06/28/06 Wed
    - Took some calves to the market last week. Had one big one that I just left a bull from last fall. Was gentle acting in the pasture, a braford cross, except when he seen my grandson he would jump up and down and want to play with him. I just take something and chase him off. He was in the pens and was gentle, so I saved him and another one to put on the back of the trailer. After I got them loaded, he kinda came apart in that trailer, hookin at me. Got over to the market and the sale had just started so I had to unload myself. They got long alleyway pens, so unloaded him and the other calf then went inside the trailer real quick to unlock the middle gate. Turned around and here he was coming at me. Barely got outdside the trailer and on top of the pens. Then he stayed under me hookin at me. Anyways, he weighed 670 pounds and brought 84 cents. I thought, I hope somebody bought him for some youth kids to try out as a buckin bull, cause he was pretty athletic. (NT) -- Varmit, 14:02:31 06/28/06 Wed
      - That's about what my boys averaged when they got on the truck. In fact, that's why I didn't sell them. I just think they'll bring more than $85 even when the feed lot puts another 500+ pounds on them. That's about what fats are bringin' today and the cost of gain is arround $50 so this deal should work good. We cut some and sent them on the truck 8 days later. Usin' that Newberry knife and Henderson castrating tool is sure the way to go. The knife is so quick that it makes up the extra time that the Henderson tool takes and there is no blood or swelling. I sure would like to know how my old Leroy Brown is doin' in Mississsippi. I sure hope I see him on TV some day. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 15:17:57 06/28/06 Wed
        
        ZD... you could probably easily sell that hay to NM. I use to be told that Arizona did not allow any hay from outside states? What about during a drought? Or do they just plan on irrigation for all there hay? (NT) -- Varmit, 19:45:25 06/28/06 Wed
        
        I hardly ever sell any hay. It brings more for me to take customers cows and feed it to them. I can usually buy thin cows in Jan.-Feb and feed up my hay, put out some fertilizer and sell the cows in May when the ryegrass looks like it'll never ru n out and get more for it that way. Easier too. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 14:24:05 06/29/06 Thu
Spanish Parliament Supports Rights for Apes -- Varmit, 12:08:03 06/28/06 Wed

MADRID (June 27) - Spain's parliament is to declare support for rights to life and freedom for great apes on Wednesday, apparently the first time any national legislature will have recognized such rights for non-humans.

Parliament is to ask the government to adhere to the Great Ape Project, which would mean recognizing that our closest genetic relatives should be part of a "community of equals" with humans, supporters of the resolution said.

This just came out on the newswire, so I only have an aol link. But you can probably find it in a few hours.

Wonder if the fighting bulls will be next in line to have equal rights?

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- Them fightin' bulls already have all the rights the need from me. They have the right for ol' ZD to leave them to heck alone and I am not lettin' 'em give up that right. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 12:50:17 06/28/06 Wed
Broken Trail -- Crystal, 06:52:11 06/26/06 Mon
Any one watch the Robert Duvall western on AMC? First thing I noticed: Several of the horses in the herd they are driving had number brands. They filmed in Alberta, but the movie takes place in OR, ID, & WY.

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- Didn't see it. Watched a movie I think was called "Enough" with Jennifer Lopez in it last night. (NT) -- Varmit, 18:08:57 06/26/06 Mon
- Tried to watch it...power went out. So Monday night I set a tape because Parts 1 and 2 were on....but I had a meeting so will have to watch it when I get time. What I have seen I liked. It's not Lonesome Dove but Duvall is still a master! (NT) -- Julie, 05:36:28 06/27/06 Tue
  - Julie, you need a generator. Then during hurricane season you could double your money on it. (NT) -- Varmit, 07:37:44 06/28/06 Wed
One thing you can say about team roping -- Varmit, 08:17:10 06/22/06 Thu
It brings guys from both ends of the arena together.

http://sports.espn.go.com/prorodeo/news/story?page=g_news_Trimble_Disney_RenoRodeo_060622

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- Contestants with the availablity of Leer Jets over the 4th of July run. -- Varmit, 15:46:31 06/23/06 Fri
  - Taos Muncy is catching a jet with Steve Dollarhide and Mike Outhier to get from Window Rock to Greeley for a same day perf---has to be a dream come true for a 19 yr. old !! (NT) -- Julie, 06:27:35 06/26/06 Mon
    - Throw in a few buckle bunnies and it will be a dream come true. (NT) -- Varmit, 18:07:06 06/26/06 Mon
      - :) :) ....Yah that too!!! (NT) -- Julie, 05:38:12 06/27/06 Tue
Gateman Killed at Colorado State High School Finals Rodeo -- Varmit, 04:29:57 06/27/06 Tue
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/home/article/0,1299,DRMN_1_4803257,00.html

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Anybody that don't like pretty girls is nuts. Was it really that hard to figure out? -- Hap, 15:51:35 06/20/06 Tue
Pentagon lists homosexuality as disorder

By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Writer Tue Jun 20, 6:23 AM ET

WASHINGTON - A
Pentagon document classifies homosexuality as a mental disorder, decades after mental health experts abandoned that position.

The document outlines retirement or other discharge policies for service members with physical disabilities, and in a section on defects lists homosexuality alongside mental retardation and personality disorders.

Critics said the reference underscores the Pentagon's failing policies on gays, and adds to a culture that has created uncertainty and insecurity around the treatment of homosexual service members, leading to anti-gay harassment.

Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Jeremy M. Martin said the policy document is under review.

The Pentagon has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy that prohibits the military from inquiring about the sex lives of service members but requires discharges of those who openly acknowledge being gay.

The Center for the Study of Sexual Minorities in the Military, at the University of California at Santa Barbara, uncovered the document and pointed to it as further proof that the military deserves failing grades for its treatment of gays.

Nathaniel Frank, senior research fellow at the center, said, "The policy reflects the department's continued misunderstanding of homosexuality and makes it more difficult for gays and lesbians to access mental health services."

The document, called a Defense Department Instruction, was condemned by medical professionals, members of Congress and other experts, including the American Psychiatric Association.

"It is disappointing that certain
Department of Defense instructions include homosexuality as a 'mental disorder' more than 30 years after the mental health community recognized that such a classification was a mistake," said Rep. Marty Meehan (news, bio, voting record), D-Mass.

Congress members noted that other Pentagon regulations dealing with mental health do not include homosexuality on any lists of psychological disorders. And in a letter to Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Monday, nine lawmakers asked for a full review of all documents and policies to ensure they reflect that same standard.

"Based on scientific and medical evidence the APA declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973 � a position shared by all other major health and mental health organizations based on their own review of the science," James H. Scully Jr., head of the psychiatric association, said in a letter to the Defense Department's top doctor earlier this month.

There were 726 military members discharged under the "don't ask, don't tell" policy during the budget year that ended last Sept. 30. That marked the first year since 2001 that the total had increased. The number of discharges had declined each year since it peaked at 1,227 in 2001, and had fallen to 653 in 2004.

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- Yeah, the world can be very confusing. People will praise you for having a skinny wife, but frown on you for having a skinny cow... or..... praise you for having a fat cow, but frown on you for having a fat wife. (NT) -- Varmit, 14:18:43 06/21/06 Wed
  - "Late-Life Job Loss Raises Heart Attack Risk" Here's another one. Does this stuff require millions of $$$ being spent on research to prove the obvious?Do we need a study that tells us that when you put a skillet on the burner and turn the heat up, don't touch it because new research proves it's gonna be hot and burn you?.>>> -- Hap, 06:02:30 06/22/06 Thu
    - Never retire is what I have always figured. With me it seems to always be a month behind and I don't think I will ever catch up. (NT) -- Varmit, 07:25:24 06/22/06 Thu
      - In this case they are talking about guys that lose their job for one reason or the other and are not of retirement age but are faced with trying to make ends meet after loosing their job. It happens. (NT) -- Hap, 10:30:20 06/22/06 Thu
        
        Just so you know Hap... I am not trying to argue with you on this.... just curious about a few things stated.... they said...."During those 10 years, 202 people had a heart attack. Just over 10 percent (23) of those heart attacks occurred in people who were jobless after being laid off. In addition, 140 people suffered a stroke. Close to 24 percent (33) of those strokes occurred among the jobless, and 9 percent (13) occurred just after the person lost his or her job, the researchers found.".... So does that mean that 90% of those still working of the 202 had heart attacks while having a job and 75% of the 140 of those still working had strokes? (NT) -- Varmit, 18:16:24 06/22/06 Thu
        
        I have seen some TV ads about certain women cancers being caused by a virus. If that is possible, wonder how many more cancers are caused by a virus or bacteria infection, etc? They should be studying something like that more then the above. I think the biggest factor causing heart disease, stroke, cancer, etc... is the fact that not many centuries ago the average life span for a human was 35 years old. So maybe we are all living on borrowed time as it is. (NT) -- Varmit, 16:27:56 06/24/06 Sat
Reckon SH turned them out? -- Hap, 09:45:25 06/20/06 Tue
Posted on Mon, Jun. 19, 2006

MISSING BRONCS ROUNDED UP IN RENO
By MARTIN GRIFFITH
Associated Press

RENO, Nev. - Bareback and saddle bronc competition at North America's third largest rodeo will go on after all.

All but one of 62 bucking horses used in the events at the Reno Rodeo were found Sunday after escaping from a corral in Sparks, just east of Reno.

The animals left late Saturday or early Sunday and were in the Pah Rah Range about six miles northeast of the corral when they were found in the early afternoon, rodeo spokesman Steve Schroeder said.

They were driven back to town by a group of cowboys and were expected to perform Monday night. They were a little dehydrated but otherwise in good condition, organizers said.

''Those horses are pretty wiped out,'' Schroeder said. ''They were heading east (away from Reno) and in a full-bore run when they were spotted.

''It took a while to turn around the leader and drive the herd back into town. Fortunately, it's a happy outcome,'' he said.

Rodeo officials were unsure whether the horses were intentionally released or escaped on their own from the Gondolfo Arena.

Three animal rights activists staged a protest Saturday at the Reno Rodeo Arena.

''We don't know what happened,'' Schroeder said. ''There's strange tracks near one of the gates where the horses left.''

The horses' escape had threatened to cancel the bareback and saddle bronc events at the rodeo, he added.

Most of the horses, owned by Flying 5 Rodeo Co. based in Washington state, are worth thousands of dollars each.

But some of the best that compete at the National Finals Rodeo in Las Vegas are valued at hundreds of thousands of dollars each, Schroeder said.

Until they were found, the horses were the target of an intensive search both on ground and in the air.

Organizers even asked airline pilots to look for them as they approached Reno-Tahoe International Airport.

Searchers continued to comb the Pah Rahs for the lone missing horse.

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- Is he in town? What about Ingrid? Or even those "evilviromental" people from Californineeee. (NT) -- Varmit, 11:11:07 06/20/06 Tue
  - Update inside.>>>>>>>>> -- Hap, 20:36:41 06/20/06 Tue
    - More...>>>>> -- Crystal, 07:25:46 06/21/06 Wed
  - Three ARAs were there so maybe so. Stock contractors are going to keep a close eye on those guys. (NT) -- Hap, 20:48:50 06/20/06 Tue
    - I met the guy that raised Spring Fling last month at the Etbauer school. He's from the Blackfoot Rez in Montana. (NT) -- Hap, 10:33:31 06/22/06 Thu
Article about smokeless tobacco and college rodeo. -- Varmit, 06:43:58 06/18/06 Sun
And the thing that stands out is the NCAA recieves $52 million in alcohol sponsorships, and you never read about activists against them.

http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2006/06/17/sports/college/650de96e75cecdf487257190001a271a.txt

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- To solve the issue all of rodeo ought to come together and hire Mark Cuban to run a 'Super Orginization' that would roll all of rodeo together. Nobody can out camera hog the guy and when he goes 'over the top' even for Mark Cuban he'll do something to put himself down. Remember when he did the manage the McDonanlds thing? He is camera hogging even when he is showing that's he really just a common guy? Maybe we should just hire the mafia to break a few legs. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 07:15:20 06/18/06 Sun
Mr. Vickers has the right idea but will probably get in some trouble for juicing his fence. -- Hap, 07:48:18 06/17/06 Sat
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060617/ap_on_re_us/border_fence_laddersPolitics

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Ranchers add ladders to border fences By LYNN BREZOSKY, Associated Press Writer
Sat Jun 17, 7:27 AM ET

FALFURRIAS, Texas - A few Texas ranchers tired of costly repairs to cattle fences damaged by illegal immigrants have installed an easier route over the U.S.-Mexican border � ladders.

"It's an attempt to get them to use the ladders instead of tearing the fences," said Scott Pattinson, who owns one of a group of ranches known as La Copa.

La Copa is just south of a U.S. Border Patrol highway checkpoint that went up 75 miles from the border several years ago, sending migrants through the brambly scrub of nearby ranches instead.

Some immigrants walk for hours or days to skirt the checkpoints in temperatures hovering around 100 degrees. Their feet have worn visible paths through a forest of cactus and mesquite otherwise thick enough to conceal them from Border Patrol helicopters overhead and agents only a few hundred yards away.

The paths lead from one ripped-down section of fencing to another. Texas ranches can be so large it could be days before owners notice the hole in the fence, long after the livestock possibly escapes.

Paul Johnson protects his 2,700-acre exotic game ranch of zebras, scimitar-horned oryx and wildebeests with about 10 miles of high wire fence, and joined his neighbors in placing ladders along the way.

But apparently some immigrants think the ladders are too good to be true.

"They ignore it a lot," Johnson said. "They're afraid that they're monitored by the Border Patrol."

Johnson plans to take the ladders down, worried about the message he's sending.

"I think what it does is give a signal that we are wanting them to cross there, don't mind the crossing, and that kind of magnifies the problem," he said.

Rancher Michael Vickers never liked the ladder idea and instead has ringed his fence with 220 volts of electricity.

"I've had a dose of it myself, it's not fun," he said. "That's just my attitude, why make it easier for them to trespass?"

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- Hap, you are a whole lot closer to the Hispanic culture than I but I have noticed that foot traffic or even horse, mule or burro traffic is pretty much accepted or at least tollerated across any passable route in the Hispanic culture. I have ridden horses in MX a few times and those people just go wherever they please. It's not even considered rude I guess. In the cities I notice that all the houses that have rock walls imbed glass in them to keep folks from sitting there. The iron fences all have points on them. In many places homeowners provide benches for those that would like to rest and watch the traffic pass. I guess that when the 'wet back's' come across that they are not overly concerned with traditon or culture but more with not getting caught and delaying their journey a day or two. Whay I can't figure is why a wet back just doesn't buy a plane ticket to Houston. It would be cheaper than paying a coyote to smuggle them in. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 09:26:30 06/17/06 Sat
About once a week they been doing these interiviews... -- Varmit, 17:26:28 06/16/06 Fri
with different singers. Including Ty's girl. What a difference of opinion you get when they interview one that has been to war.

Not sure who this guy is, but seems like he is selling records.

Will post the interview inside.

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- inside.....>>>> -- Varmit, 17:28:49 06/16/06 Fri
Doesn't say how old he is..... -- Varmit, 17:19:12 06/14/06 Wed
But he has got be getting up there in age.

I competed at a bunch of rodeos his son Jeff was at.

http://www.statesmanexaminer.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=201&Itemid=1

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- I'm guessing he's around 77 or 78. They're looking good. That's a good article. (NT) -- Hap, 20:35:53 06/14/06 Wed
- Varmit's Link: Click Here (NT) -- Crystal, 07:08:05 06/15/06 Thu
- The article said, and I quote, " By 1952, Copenhaver had won third place in saddle bronc riding at the National Finals. He became the world champion in 1955, and held the title again the next year." That ain't right is it? The NFR didn't start till 1959 or '60. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 13:41:08 06/15/06 Thu
  - The first finals was in '59. I think the reporter probably don't know the difference between the finals and the World. Many outsiders are never clear about all that. They might have a photo of a bareback horse and call it a saddle bronc and we just have to know what they mean. To others, it don't matter anyhow. Kind of like talking lacrosse or cricket to me, you could tell me anything and I'd never know if it was right or wrong. (NT) -- Hap, 14:55:47 06/15/06 Thu
    - I was going to mention it...but I knew everybody on here knew the finals didn't start until 59' (NT) -- Varmit, 17:18:31 06/15/06 Thu
      - Kinda like when the reporter says 2 men jump off their horses and wrestle a steer to the ground. And leaves out the part about them being "really big suckers". (NT) -- Varmit, 17:22:14 06/15/06 Thu
- The caption of a photo of a cow in the local paper called it steer, heifer and a bull all in the same paragraph. Maybe he didn't know the difference between Hereford and heifer, but the others shouldn't be that hard. The county agent wrote a letter to the editor about it and called it an attempt at "cutesie reporting." (NT) -- Hap, 06:11:37 06/16/06 Fri
  - Sounds like the people we have down here. Had a pasture leased with a radio tower in it. There was half spanish scrub cow in that pasture with big horns that would run 200 feet just to catch you for the fun of it. They called one day and said, "Theres a bull over here that won't let us get into the pasture and he has a little calf by his side." (NT) -- Varmit, 08:36:42 06/16/06 Fri
    - I had a cow once that was, or looked like, one of those Mexican fighting bull's mama. She acted just like any other cow until she had her calf. When her calf was born you needed to stay horseback all the time arround her and she would still come at you. I cut her horns off thinking that would change her attitude but I was wrong. She wasn't a very good cow but I bred her to a really good Simmental bull and she'd have a black baldy calf that was always at the top of the list when I sold. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 08:52:09 06/16/06 Fri
      - That pasture was one of those with lots of mushrooms in the summer time. The stoneheads we would have problems with. One side had more mushrooms then some of the other cross pastures. So when that cow was in that side, she was kind of a security guard. (NT) -- Varmit, 15:33:56 06/16/06 Fri
I guess somebody else went -- Varmit, 06:09:37 06/12/06 Mon
My wife took our grandson to see the movie "Cars" this weekend. They were the only 2 in the theater, even though they had it showing in 2 other theaters at the same place about an hour apart.

But I see it topped this weekends box office sales.

1. 'Cars': $62.8 million
2. 'The Break-Up': $20.5 million
3. 'X-Men: The Last Stand': $15.55 million
4. 'The Omen': $15.45 million

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- Disney can take care of himself. I want to know if you got rain yet and how long it'll be till you have good grass. Good luck pal.z (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 11:04:46 06/12/06 Mon
  - No rain yet, from now what they think will be Hurricane Alberto. Looking at the radar, the rain is staying about 70 miles away from us. But I suppose we will get some when it goes a little more northeast across northern Florida. We got a little grass... enough to handle things for now. Probably won't be until July until we get deep grass if we get some rain out of this. (NT) -- Varmit, 11:12:54 06/12/06 Mon
    - ZD... how much did you pay for your fertilizer? I called Friday about some 10-10-10 and they want $350.00 a ton for it.... I said forget about that.... that's the cost of a good 350 pound milk fat calf to do 5 acres of land. A little less then 2 years ago it was less then $200 a ton. (NT) -- Varmit, 12:14:20 06/12/06 Mon
      - I put out blended fertilizer. I normally put out 34-10- 25 per acre in Dec. or Jan. I usually pay for it in Dec. and get a bit of a price break. After that I just use 34-0-0 but normall put 150 lbs of it. Not this year though. No more fert. this year. All my cattle will be in the Panhandle eatin' corn in 2 weeks. Cattle are gettin' cheaper and grass is gettin' shorter. I have plenty of grass but am saving it for when I can buy some cheaper steers this Fall. Because I bought my fert. last Dec. It only cost about $250.00 a ton for that hot blend that I use. They deliver it 7 tons at a time and spread it for $4.00 an acre. What it boils down to is that $50.00 worth of fertilizer made 3.75 big rolls of hay per acre that are worth $50.00 each but it cost $17.00 to get it bailed. Ranchin' isn't a very good business right now but ownin' land is. Last year our land was sellin' for $800.00 and this year it's sellin' for $1,400.00 an acre. The rich folks have discovered us. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 16:39:57 06/12/06 Mon
        
        I had some people here from Tyler Texas last week and they were telling me you could buy good land for $1000.00 an acre. They were shocked that around here it was bringing $100,000 an acre. (NT) -- Varmit, 17:55:36 06/12/06 Mon
        
        Two years ago my land was worth about $800.00 an acre. Now it is worth nearly twice that. I am on the same highway that Tyler is on but about 100 mi. West. The very small, back yard rancher is gone from our area. They may still live there but no longer run cattle. It's just not worth their time and many of them are just too old. There are no locally owned banks left here. The folks that used to buy a few cows with borrowed money they got by just a telephone call to the banker won't mess with the 'chain' banks loan application. (NT) -- ZD Ranch, 12:58:53 06/13/06 Tue
        
        How many cows can you run to an acre year around? (NT) -- Varmit, 16:21:36 06/13/06 Tue
        
        Have you heard about that new grass you can run 10 cows to an acre on? I have heard people talk of it. It has some kind of name only a scientist can pronounce. But its some kind of air plant grass. Suppose to do good in lots of places. Only feedback was if it was allowed to get to high it got moldy underneath. Something you wouldn't have to worry about in New Mexico. (NT) -- Varmit, 06:16:53 06/14/06 Wed
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