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Subject: Changed My Mind


Author:
Tracy (Confused and Frightened)
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Date Posted: 03/17/09 12:31am

I am a mother of three beautiful children - ages 10, 7 and 1. I feel as though I am going crazy. I am currently pregnant with my fourth. I am married - my husband and I are both professional people (although I am mainly a SAHM now) and realistically, we don't have any economic concerns, compared to the average person.
Our first two children were not "planned" as such - and I believe I suffered from ante-natal depression with my second child - I considered abortion during that pregnancy. Life events, such as the death of my mother, prompted me to think about the importance of family and heritage, leading me to desire a third child. Suddenly, conception and actually carrying a baby became difficult. Firstly, I suffered a miscarriage at 8 weeks (I was devastated) and then an ectopic pregnancy (requiring emergency surgery and the loss of a tube). I was hysterical. It took a year to conceive in between those two pregnancies, and following the loss of my tube, my gynaecologist took pity on me and performed a round of IVF, resulting in my third child, and second daughter. I was ecstatic following her birth. My husband, a doctor, felt that the whole procedure had been unnecessary, but my gynae and I had wanted to "speed things up". That child has just turned one - and I am pregnant again. Now, I am full of fear and don't wish to be pregnant, and find myself contemplating ending the pregnancy. I keep thinking that I have to look after the children we have - and that I cannot mentally cope - that I cannot bond with another. I have told nooone about this pregnancy. I find myself GOOGLEing abortion stories, facts, etc. I am frozen with fear.

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[> Subject: Re: Changed My Mind


Author:
Pat
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Date Posted: 03/18/09 6:23pm

Oh, Tracy, I am so sorry you are experiencing this! FIrst of all, you already know you are carrying a child. Having an abortion will make it much more difficult to mother them, or could even kill you. Don't even THINK about it! As for bonding, hey, don't worry! You WILL bond. Breastfeed, and it's guaranteed. Why are you experiencing such fears? Any idea? Please know that hormones often do this to a woman in the first trimester, so it could be hormonal. Take one day at a time.

I'll tell you this. We raised SEVEN children, and I am fiercely bonded to EACH of them. Two of them are adopted. It didn't matter. In fact, I breastfed both of them. One of them had a problem with failure to thrive, and the adoption wasn't complete, so we actually made plans that if they tried to take him away from us, we would RUN. That's how serious it was to us. The truth is, a woman's hormones help with that bonding. In fact, breastfeeding hormones help. Hormones generated by the sensation of birth help. And the shift of hormones later in the pregnancy help. I can't think of a single woman who has come to us for help who has NOT experienced bonding, in spite of how much they didn't want to be pregnant in the first place.

Have courage. Courage isn't about not being afraid. Courage is about doing what you need to do in spite of your fear. This baby is depending on you for your protection, and you are the only person in the world who CAN protect him or her. Please protect your baby. Don't harm your baby, and please don't harm yourself. Abortion is dangerous. And abortion is forever. You can't take it back.

Hugs,
Pat
[> [> Subject: Re: Changed My Mind


Author:
Tracy (Anxious)
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Date Posted: 03/18/09 10:34pm

Thanks so much for responding to me, Pat. I cannot for the life of me think why I am feeling this way. I really cannot. I was desperate to have more children following my losses (in between child 2 and child 3) and was elated to be expecting my last child. I feel so sick to my stomach about this pregnancy - disconnected - ashamed of being pregnant (don't know where THIS feeling comes from, as I am married, etc) - it is horrendous. My husband does not know as he is staunchly pro life.
[> Subject: Re: Changed My Mind


Author:
Tracey
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Date Posted: 03/22/09 3:02am

Tracy~
Hello and welcome! Oh honey, I I know you feel so confused and alone in all this, but I want you to know that we are here to help. I first want to tell you that what you are feeling is very normal in the first trimester and sometimes throughout pregnancy. We have had four children in under 5 years and I specifically remember the first trimester for all of my pregnancies was just plain miserable. My hormones were all over the place, I just felt horrible, and the worst part is I couldn't even stand to be around myself some days! lol Give yourself a break--all that you have been through(miscarriage, ectopic pregnancy, death of your mother during a pregnancy), it's no wonder you are feeling the way you are! Sometimes we deal with so much heartache or something traumatic from something that is meant to be amazing, that we build up a wall or don't know how to react when it does turn positive. Right now your body is busy busy busy creating a little miracle, but at the same time causing your hormones to go through the roof and using all your energy to form that little one. The daily stresses of wife and mother can make you feel like your walls are caving in around you. But I am here to hell you that you are not alone! You can do this!!! I LOVE having four. There's a completness to my family and I can remember when our son(our last), was born knowing that he completed this family! I am praying for you, Tracy. Please continue to keep coming back.
God bless,
Tracey
[> Subject: Re: Changed My Mind


Author:
Pat
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Date Posted: 03/22/09 7:41am

Tracy,

Please tell your husband that you need extra nourishing at this time.

When I was pregnant with our last child, I REALLY didn't want to be pregnant. I had had a rough time in the last couple of pregnancies, and I was tired. But abortion was out of the question. The birth was rough, too. I was in labor something like 33 hours.

But you know what? That son has been the most incredible blessing to us! He delighted me with many hours of beautiful classical guitar music. He was the only one available to take care of my mother-in-law when she was in her last year; her greatest desire was to stay in her apartment. She had given us everything she had because we had so many financial problems. She was always totally unconditionally loving and giving, and I wanted more than anything in the world to be able to grant her this last wish. So our youngest son moved in with her, and because he was there part of the time, she was able to stay. As a result of all this, in the end, she was able to accept Jesus as her Saviour, and she is now with him. Then our son did two tours of duty in Iraq. I can't imagine how difficult that must have been, and I am incredibly proud of him. He is a chaplain's assistant. And he has given us a wonderful grandson.

Take one day at a time. You will know why God has given you this incredible gift. But now, as Tracey says, your hormones aren't helping any. Hang in there. It does get better. Promise. Even with our youngest son, I was in love with him long before he was born.

Hugs,
Pat
[> Subject: Re: Changed My Mind


Author:
Heather
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Date Posted: 03/22/09 2:55pm

Hi Tracey!

I'm a little late to the discussion, but I found your post and subsequent ones very understandable. You sound like you're doing a great job thinking through the situation, too, instead of just reacting.

My husband and I have four children, now aged 11,10,9 and 7 - very close together. At one point all four were under 5 years of age (thank goodness for God's grace and a fantastic and helpful husband!)

Our 4th was not planned, either. After our third I gave away all the baby stuff - swing, carseat, carriers, diaper bags, clothing - the whole set. We thought our family was so sweet and complete with 3 little ones.

But boy can I relate to Pat about the blessing of that last child! Her name is Clara, and from day one she has been nothing but the sweetest of blessings to our household. Her temperament is such that even as a baby she was incredibly content and kind, and her smiles from her high chair and loving pats actually seemed to somehow lighten my load instead of add to it, lol.

I think God is very aware of our limitations and vulnerabilities as human beings first and foremost, but even as parents. The same God that creates the unique spirit any physiology of our little ones and us is also more than able to give us the daily grace needed to ride out the unexpected events in life.

That said, I can understand how you feel. I'll be praying for you - for peace and grace. I think if I were in your shoes the matter would seem somewhat less daunting once my husband was in the loop and on my team, too. Hopefully you'll feel comfortable enough to tel him soon.

You have an amazing story. I'm glad you found this board and are taking the time to share it. I look forward to reading your updates!

Take good care of yourself.

With Kindness,

Heather
[> [> Subject: Re: Changed My Mind


Author:
Tracy (Grateful for your Feedback)
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Date Posted: 03/22/09 4:12pm

Hi ladies and thanks so very much for your well thought out and supportive responses. I am not sure if I clarified that this pregnancy was actually very much planned. My DH had been asking me if our attempts had been successful, and I feel terrible, as I have lied to him and told him, "No". I also feel extremely guilty for being so ambivalent and detached given that my DH is a great man and is very much on board re having children. I have gone into complete panic mode and am in denial in a huge way. I am also going through the "Cannnot love another as I love the ones I have way too much" type phase. And whilst I realise that many women go through this - the degree to which I feel this is out of proportion - it is almost dysfunctional.
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Pat
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Date Posted: 03/22/09 7:48pm

Hi, Tracy,

I also appreciate your feedback very much.

Let me assure you. You WILL love your baby. This is especially true if you breastfeed, but even if you don't, you will love your baby. Most likely, you will love your baby long before he or she is born.

We have seven children, all grown. I love each of them fiercely. There is no less love for the youngest than for the oldest, or any in between. At times, one child or another has broken our hearts. The good thing is that sooner or later, they go back to being the person they once were. But the fact that they could break our hearts shows how much we care. And by the way, two of our children were adopted. And I breastfed everyone, and homeschooled everyone, to the best of my ability.

Perhaps you are low on vitamins and minerals. I recommend you take prenatal vitamins. They may help. Also, there are several safe things that can be taken, and this is, of course, up to you. One is phosphatidyl choline. This is nothing more than a particular compound of a B vitamin. Another is evening primrose oil. This contains gamma linolenic acid, something your body makes anyway. If you take one when you are feeling panic, and the panic goes away, that's a sign your adrenal glands are not functioning as they should. If you eat foods with monosodium glutimate, this can cause this problem. Also, stay away from artificially sweetened food and drink. Get plenty of protein. If you are a vegetarian, you could also be suffering from malnutrition. Pregnancy will aggravate this problem.

I hope this helps.

Hugs,
Pat
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Changed My Mind


Author:
Tracy
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Date Posted: 03/23/09 8:01am

Pat - I will take your advice re the prenatal vitamins. I am not a vegetarian but I must admit, my current diet is very shoddy indeed. I am hoping that this might stabilise my thought processes.
I should admit to you, that as a qualified social worker, the effects of abortion on women do concern me. Even taking away the rights of the unborn child - I have, in the past, wondered about the impact on the mental health of the mother. Certainly now, as I contemplate abortion, I feel terrified that I would awake from such a procedure an emotional wreck - inconsolable.
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Author:
Pat
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Date Posted: 03/23/09 11:55pm

Hi, Tracy,

From what you describe, I'd have to say that improving your diet might have a significant impact. Good luck with this.

Thank you also for your testimony of your expertise and your thoughts regarding a woman having an abortion, and the impact it will have on her emotionally. It HAS been learned a woman is 3 1/2 times as likely to commit suicide after abortion, over the risk if she carried to term. Heightened risk of death by violent means lasts for a year, and the overall risk lasts for about eight years.

The person who reported this study said that a woman who is having trouble with depression is a poor risk for abortion.

The only answer, then, is hang in there, take one day at a time.

It does pass. I know this from experience.

Hugs,
Pat
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Author:
Tracy
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Date Posted: 03/24/09 3:55am

Pat - this is the thing that has thusfar stopped me. As a clinician, I know the stats and the research, and I do not doubt it. I have come across the occasional woman who seriously appears to have "no regrets" - but I am wondering how many women can truly say that at the end of the day. And one cannot predict exactly which "camp" they might fall into post abortion. This is why I am alarmed to find myself feeling this way. Once again, taking morality out of it - taking the rights of the unborn out of the equation (hard to do) - what happens to the emotional life of the woman involved? This is where the pro-choice stance appears to have no definitive answers. And this is what has kept me from doing anything to end my pregnancy. That fear of deep and unrelenting regret.

Have you ladies encountered anyone on here who has aborted, and been seemingly okay with it afterwards? I really appreciate your posts, btw.
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Author:
Heather
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Date Posted: 03/24/09 6:42pm

Hi Tracy,

I volunteered for awhile as a P.A.S.S (Post Abortion Stress Syndrome) counselor at our local pregnancy resource center because there was such a need for this demographic of women. The abortion clinics couldn't offer this service without acknowledging the liability, so they could offer only referrals, some sliding scale - but none free.

What I noted with interest during my time doing that counseling is how few women I saw who had just had abortions. I think there is a certain period of denial. There were a few who were within a month or two of their abortion, but most were a year or more, sometimes many years, after the fact of their abortion and were just now coming to terms with it.

This is one reason why I am thankful when I see women considering abortion being encouraged to not to react hastily to the fear we all have when something unplanned and seemingly daunting comes to us. Abortion is so huge, so much more than merely 'removing a pregnancy.'

And as you note, there is a huge portion of that that is concern for women. We have instincts! And we don't do well when pressured either from within or without to overrule them.

Heather
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Changed My Mind


Author:
Melanie
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Date Posted: 03/24/09 6:32am

Tracy,

You might be surprised just how common the ambivalence is even with planned pregnancies.

I have a friend who went through ambivalence with her last pregnancy, and it was very much a planned at wanted pregnancy at the time. I was also surprised when I visited her in the hospital and she almost seemed detached to another one of her children and I even talked to her about it. After the first day, she becomes super attached and just like a mama bear with her cub. She loves all of her children dearly.

At any rate, your fears are not so abnormal. Taking care of yourself, I'm sure will make a big difference as to how you feel. It certainly can't hurt.

Hang in there.

--Melanie
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Author:
Tracy
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Date Posted: 03/26/09 6:13am

Thanks so very much for all the feedback, etc.
However, I have at last identified the major reasons for just NOT being able to continue with this hidden pregnancy. My husband and I have an outwardly "good life" - he is supposedly (I say supposedly) Christian man and a good provider, etc - but our marriage is a farce and it has fallen apart. I cannot continue on in this. And I cannot in all good consciousness bring a child into this world to be a victim of this lunacy. My husband is hell bent on building his dream house - the total project cost is something like $4 million AUD. That is obviously big dollars. He is going to break us financially. He feels that financial worth is a measure of success as a person, yes, in spite of his Presbyterian leanings and shock and horror if someone says a swear word. I guess you could call him a legalistic Christian who has no rel/ship with God/Jesus. I have struggled for years with the Christian faith, and I have finally admitted to myself why. It is my husband. He is a hypocrite. We are arguing daily about the house project and the children are witnessing it. I cannot tell friends about it, because when you start talking about these kinds of figures ($) people start to become resentful and/or envious a lot of the time. He is fevered about this stuff. I am a wreck. I present an outwardly good persona to others through the day, but I am not coping at all. I hate the shallowness of our lives. Our marriage is stuffed - it is over - I am going to tell him this officially.
I cannot continue the preg and adopt a child out here - I would need my husband's consent, which he would never give. I feel I am going to have to take the risk of damaging my mental health in order to protect and focus on the kids I have here with me. I am between a rock and a hard place. I can hardly breathe. It is late at night, and my husband is on night shift at the hospital and the kids are asleep. I wish I could fall down the stairs and miscarry. Sorry to unleash all of this.
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Changed My Mind


Author:
Pat
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Date Posted: 03/26/09 10:28pm

Tracy,

God gave you a child for a reason. We don't know what God's reason is, but we HAVE to trust Him! Seriously! This is a GIFT from God! Why should your baby pay for your husband's misbehavior? That's totally unjust, and I suspect you know it.

Do you really want to throw God's gift in His face? You know this baby was made in the image of God, Who came and DIED for this little one!

You're not just looking at your mental health here, but your eternal salvation. Will you turn against God because you have an abortion? Lots of women have! YOU do the righteous thing, and turn your husband over to God. He WILL deal with him, in his own time.

I can't tell you all the details here, but I will tell you briefly of my own story. When we got married, I was sure my husband was a Christian. I found out shortly after we were married that he wasn't. My husband shared in the same kind of ambition as yours. Life with him was difficult, but I won't go into the details. One day, I told God, do whatever you have to do to me to bring my husband to the foot of the cross. Even take my life if need be. And yes, the atmosphere was very hard on the children, and they suffered. We have been married for nearly 43 years, and God gave us seven precious children, two by adoption. Life got even harder. We had serious financial difficulties. There were months on end when there was no income at all! The total was over six years. I often would cling to Jesus as if I were hanging from a cliff by my fingernails. I couldn't pray many times. I kept asking WHY? Well, now I know.

As a result of the faithfulness of the children and me, his mother became a Christian just days before she died. If it hadn't been for this, she would have been condemned forever. And less than a year ago, my husband finally cemented his faith with baptism. The difference was profound! Suddenly, whereas before he couldn't accept that Jesus is God, now he is totally confident of it. Totally. This is nothing short of a miracle that was wrought by the Holy Spirit. And he treats me like a queen, and he is wonderful to me!

And we now have eight precious grandchildren as well. Two of them were also adopted.

Here's what I think you need to do. Go to God in prayer. Be earnest about it. Surrender TOTALLY to His will. He GAVE you this baby, KNOWING YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES. Make sure you get good nutrition, and I think I talked to you about supplements that help with depression. Take one day at a time, one hour at a time. You will want to take back your total surrender. Tell God you can't surrender totally by yourself. He needs to help you. He WILL. I guarantee it. You will either walk with God and accept His will or you won't. It's up to you.

Don't give up. Remember, the Bible tells us about God, MY STRENGTH IS MADE PERFECT IN WEAKNESS. God delights in taking the weak things of the world, and right now you are among them, to show HIS glory THROUGH you.

Repudiate the devil. He will flee from you. This is nothing more than the devil harassing and obsessing you. I pray in the name of Jesus that the devil will leave you. Amen.

You will be in our prayers.

DON'T GIVE UP!

We love all of you, including your unborn child.

Hugs,
Pat
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Author:
Tracy (Curious)
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Date Posted: 03/27/09 8:57am

Pat - I sincerely thank you for your honesty and your sharing of your own situation. Things have gone from bad to worse here - my husband feels as though I am thwarting his plans of building his $4 million AUD McMansion and he is acting wounded.
But please tell me this. And I am being genuine. I am truly wanting to know HOW you have your conviction of the TRUTH of the bible and of Jesus, etc. How do you know - what gives you such faith and belief? I would LOVE to believe as you do.
Tracy
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Author:
Pat
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Date Posted: 03/27/09 11:55am

Tracy,

Faith is actually a gift of the Holy Spirit. Without the Holy Spirit, a person can believe a lot of the right things, but still not have that conviction you're talking about. That said, I will explain a few things.

God chose us before He formed the universe. A lot of churches teach that you have to make a decision. The truth is, we CAN'T make the decision until God calls us through the Holy Spirit. Our free will has been corrupted by sin, and all we can do is choose evil and death.

People who tell you to pray the sinner's prayer are also saying you have to make a decision, not even knowing if you have been called.

However, if you have that desire to believe, you already HAVE the Holy Spirit. When people ask you when you were saved, what they really want to know is when you became aware that the Holy Spirit has called you. If someone asks me when I was saved, I tell them, when Jesus died on the cross!

Another thing to be aware of is that faith is not a feeling. It is a state of being. When I was clinging to the cliff with my fingernails, I didn't want to trust in God. But I knew that God was my only answer and my only hope, so doggedly, I maintained my faith that somehow things would work out. And literally, that's what it was. I was too stubborn to give up on God. I sure didn't FEEL like believing.

I have a close friend. When I met her, she weighed 500 pounds and took up a whole double bed, and she could scarcely get out of bed. She has three children. To make a long story short, the oldest one got into drugs and killed a security guard. He was sentenced to a very long term in prison. Years later, he became a Christian. Her daughter had a baby out of wedlock. Her younger son had been placed for adoption as an older child because she couldn't manage him. He would play hooky and break into people's homes and set fires. When she found him as an adult, he had been convicted of crimes several times and was in and out of prison. During the years I have known this woman, she had a bout of bone cancer (now in remission), psychosomatic blindness, and many other afflictions. Her life was grim. But one of the foster moms of her children was a Christian. I never really discussed the Christian faith with her during that time. I tend to follow the words (I don't remember who said them), Preach the gospel. Use words if necessary. Our conversation should be our behavior. Just as your conversation to your husband should be your behavior. The Bible tells us that this silent conversation is what wins the spouse. Anyway, my friend became a Christian, but she didn't have the joy of this other woman, so one day we were talking, and she said, I always knew there was something different about you, but I didn't know what. (Of course, I was too slow to use words if necessary). And she said, I don't have the joy anymore, so what's wrong with my faith? And I told her, it's not the joy; it's not an emotion. Faith is being in Christ, a state of being. When you don't feel joy, that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with your faith. And incidentally, Tracy, faith is also not about prosperity and health. God being sovereign, decides what gifts of life to give us, and He has his reasons, whether He gives these things, or like He did with Paul, He gives us the grace to endure other things.

Now all of that said, there is also ABUNDANT empirical evidence that the Bible is true, and accurate in every respect. The Christian faith is the ONLY complete faith that is completely backed by the evidence! From the scientific evidence regarding the origin of the world and life, from the accuracy of the prophecies, and many other aspects, the Bible is completely reliable. Here I am talking about the original writings, called the "autographs". We don't have those. What we do have is thousands and thousands of manuscripts we can compare with each other.

When we do this, we can, through careful scholarship, reconstruct the exact wording of the autographs. And that is what we have done. In questions of the fine points of doctrine, going back to these versions (the Textus Receptus and a few refinements made since that was prepared) can tell us what the true position of the Bible is. That is why I am a Lutheran, incidentally. On top of that, the critical truths are repeated so many times that there is no mistake. Salvation is by grace ALONE through faith ALONE. We are not saved by good works, we are saved FOR good works. Good works are the FRUIT of being grounded in Jesus, Who is the vine. They are EVIDENCE of faith, nothing more. But if the evidence is not there, chances are, the faith isn't, either.

My husband rejected the theory of evolution shortly after we were married. He did so on the basis of evidence and logic. The theory of evolution is devastating to faith, and devastating to human rights. My husband's rejection was partly based on his experiences working in the geochronology lab at the university (where they did radiometric dating). It was based partly on things I said, and books that we had. But even though all these years, he didn't believe in evolution, he still lacked the certainty you seek. But the first step is to get rid of the baggage: all the favorite theories people believe to avoid confronting God.

The discipline of studying the evidence for the Christian faith, and the evidence against cults, is called apologetics. There are two main areas of apologetics. One does deal with origins. My time being extremely short this weekend, I will simply point you to some things you can search by Google and readily get the links. The other deals with doctrine and cults. The Institute for Creation Research (which I think is http://www.icr.org) and Answers in Genesis are both excellent sources. If you're not quite ready to go there, the Discovery Institute talks about intelligent design. The Apologetics Index is good on doctrine and cults. There are also historical writings, and some of the excellent Lutheran ones are online. Luther wrote two catechisms which are grounded in Bible. There is also the Book of Concord. This is pretty deep study. But a summary of the essential doctrines of the faith is found in the Apostles Creed and the Nicene Creed. These two don't address origins, because it wasn't an issue at the time, but they address just about everything else. Some churches don't specifically confess these creeds, but they do have a statement of faith which says much the same thing. We speak of the cardinal doctrines, on which we all agree. Among them are the Trinity, Jesus as both God and man, and salvation through Jesus' death on the cross. If a church doesn't confess these, it's not Christian, no matter how much it claims otherwise.

Ultimately, if you ask God for faith, He is gracious to give it. If you want that kind of certainty, ASK. It's not that you won't have doubts. Jesus rewarded the person with doubts (Lord, I believe, help thou mine unbelief) by telling him he had the essential faith. Doubts which are dealt with actually make you stronger. I think that's where you are right now. So whenever things seem hopeless, or when you have doubts, go to God in prayer. Pray from the bottom of your heart. He WILL answer you. He will do so in His own timing and His own way, but He will answer.

I pray that you will soon experience the assurance you seek.

Hugs,
Pat
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Author:
Chantal
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Date Posted: 04/19/09 9:49am

Hi Tracy,
This is my first time on this message board. This year, abortion has been greatly on my mind. Iīve been reading pro'choice blogs and pro-life blogs. It has been an issue for me probably because I realized Iīve also experienced the frighfulness and uncertainty of an unplanned pregnancy. Iīll try to summarise my story.

I was travelling Europe and I became pregnant. I knew the father for only 5 months and I was making 220Euro a month. and had no health coverage. The father was done his studies and was living with his parents. I had no family and the family I was living with, I didnīt get along with the mother. Needless to say I was encourage to have an abortion, it was the only resonnable choice to make in the situation. The fatherīs family wasnīt in the best economical situation either and I didnīt see myself spending the rest of my life with the father as we had nothing in common.

Fast forward to the present. Not a day goes by when I donīt hug and cry for my son thinking how close he came to have been aborted. It hasnīt been easy, but my son is one of the most beautiful children you will meet. He is very obediant, caring and smart. He is trilingual and speaks French, English and Spanish. He is doted upon by the very people who didnīt want him, he is still their only grandson.

Why did I not have an abortion? Somehow I knew things would work out. I think the most special children are those meant to be aborted.

You will get through this rocky time. You tried so hard to have your third child.

Here is my e-mail quietstrenght at hotmail.com or you can try chauvet.c at gmail.com I would love to hear from you.
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Heather
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Date Posted: 04/22/09 10:26pm

Wow,

Chantel that was such an awesome post; thanks for taking the time to write it. I'm really happy for you that your beautiful son is in your life to hold and appreciate. :)

Heather
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Author:
Tracey (C*O*N*G*R*A*T*S!!!!!!!!!!)
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Date Posted: 04/23/09 3:31am

Chantel~
Congratulations!!! That had to be SUCH exciting news!!! And there's nothing like seeing that 3rd sonogram on the screen...it just makes everything SO real to see that little ones hands, feet, and face!!! Please continue to keep us posted!
God bless,
Tracey



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