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Subject: Re: Going Crazy Author: Leah [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 12/29/08 5:50pm In reply to: Pat 's message, "Re: Going Crazy" on 12/29/08 11:19am Thanks for the input ladies,it's weird I am really very differen't I guess in the way I live my life than most of you I suppose. I don't know if I have actually told you anything really about me. You see I listen to punk music I have tattoo's I work with street kids normally,I don't really go to church,I write sometimes freelance,often poetry,I am interested in photography,I left home at age 15 and never went back. I love my friends they are my family,and some of them are very mature. I don't know I wear bikinis lot's I am fascinated by day of the dead art from Mexico,I have skateboarded for years I surf and snowboard as well....most of my friends have kids or babies,I know I will get through this; sometimes well I suppose I just feel sorry for myself. I still want this baby more than anything I am just feeling aprehensive...I am used to being very independant,this is scary to me. I don't read the bible(does that make me a bad person here?) But I have,once in awhile I still do,I say thanks everyday though I have a very close relationship I believe with god. It's just not very traditional...I am very thankful that I have found this site but I am not the same I guess is that ok? I'm sorry this may sound harsh that is not my intention,I just don't want to offend anyone. Thank-you all for everything ladies it means so much :) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Going Crazy Author: Melanie [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12/30/08 3:20am Hi Leah, I think you would find that I am sometimes and in someways more "traditional" and not in others. I do believe God made us all different for a reason. You might be quite surprised to find some things about me. Like 2 weeks ago Friday, I was hurt in a mosh pit at an Anberlin/Hoobastank concert, and although, I don't care much for the lead singer of Hoobastank's language (my more traditional side), I still thought they played well (although I really wish he wouldn't have told people security was bored and they needed to crowd surf more. I was rather partial to my nose. LOL) I like Pop punk a little more than pure punk, though, although I would probably like some of the borderline music in that genre. They all cross over so much. I've gone to Warped Tour the last three years. I like a lot of alternative rock, pop punk, some pop, Christian Rock, Contemporary and Alternative - pretty much most things that aren't rap or screamo. As you can tell, I'm very much into music and concerts AND photography, especially concert photography. I can share my site with you sometime if you are interested. I also like to write, but I do it somewhat sporadically. While I am not much into tatoos, my daughters have enough I don't need any. LOL As you might have guessed by my last comment, I am not a youngster and my kids are now grown up. It wasn't always easy, and there were a lot of ups and downs. Still going through some of them from time to time, but still worth it. I do read my Bible, but admittedly and probably not often enough of late (and often enough means not often enough for me.) I think you will find we are all different and coming from different places, and our relationship with God is not always static. Of course you are welcome here. This board is here because many of us have been in crisis pregnancy situations in our lives, or have a special love for women and children and that's why we are here. Feel free anytime. Pity parties are normal. I've been there too many times. LOL Really, I could throw a big one this week. They can be a lot to carry around if they go on for years I suppose. ;) I know you love your baby, but each pregnancy is an adjustment, and if you are like me hormones coupled with uncertainty can make things seem a little crazy for a while. Hopefully they continue to settle for a bit even with the ups and downs. Anyway, take care, and feel free to keep coming back anytime.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Going Crazy Author: Leah [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12/30/08 2:27pm It's been really great reading your stories ladies....it's nice to know a bit about the women who helped me through an incredibly tough time! I am happy I got to share some stuff about me as well. Melanie...you attend Warped Tour awesome so do I...it may be kind of tough this coming year as I will be HUGELY prego lol but if there's a will there's a way lol...anyways are you familiar with an organization that tours with Warped? They are called To Write Love On Her Arms.....they work with youth who have been affected by self-harm(ie cutting etc) suicide and abuse(substance,emotional etc) If you haven't heard of them you can just google the name To Write Love On Her Arms and the site will come up,actually I would recommend this to ANYONE who reads this. It is an amazing story with so much hope and inspiration.....I am a HUGE supporter of this movement so if any of you have the time PLEASE PLEASE CHECK IT OUT...I know there are probably alot of youth who post here,and I had read a post where one of the young girls took her own life...maybe you could find this a useful resource when working with the young women who post here? It is also based in finding help from God..so please check it out. Sorry wasn't trying to do a plug there but it is just SUCH an amazing movement. Thank-you all again for sharing with me! Oh and I have been thinking about baby names I like Sadie for a girl(it means princess :) )and Cashton for a boy (I love Johnny Cash) what do you think? Till later ........

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Going Crazy Author: Pat [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12/30/08 8:39am Hi, Leah, Thanks so much for sharing that with us! It is helpful. Just so you know, I'm a photographer, too. I also don't go to church much because I can't. I don't feel bad about it. It's just the way things are. At least one of my kids snowboards, and that's fine with me. Another skis. Another does autocross. But the first one once tried a flip in sand, and almost broke his neck. I know he won't do THAT again! LOL I don't tend to take personal risks of that sort, but I travel across the country alone every so once in awhile. While this is no guarantee, I do have a second degree black belt, and I imagine this gives me the confidence needed to scare off wannabe predators. I have been in a few dicey situations, and usually I leave the other guy with his mouth hanging open! LOL When I was younger, I always took the youngest kid with me, on the plane or whatever, slung him or her on my body, and breastfed when he or she was hungry. It's great you work with street kids! I don't know much about day of the dead art in Mexico. I would love to know more. I studied pre-Columbian meso-American art in college. I know it's not the same thing, but still, I would like to learn about it. I don't personally have any tattoos, but one of the kindest people I know has tattoos all over his body. You should see the dragon on his back! He is a tattoo artist. I consider him a friend. I think all too often, we jump to conclusions about other people. I did. And I think you did, too. :) It's not surprising that you are finding your experiences scary. You're not offending anyone here. You are certainly not offending me. People are often afraid of major change in their lives. They think that life as they know it will end. I think more, it will simply change. Having a child is a new kind of adventure, one of the most gratifying in the world! Now you will be able to share some of these same things with your child. One of the greatest gifts you can give your child is to learn to help street kids. Continue to take one day at a time. You'll make it. You are obviously a strong person. Hugs, Pat

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Going Crazy Author: Sharon [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12/30/08 9:08am You don't sound "different" - you simply sound real ;-) We are all complex beings. I think someone reading my posts would probably get a picture of me that would be somewhat narrow. My day-job is related to technology, but I also am an artist (http://www.sharongray.com/giclee). (I'm familiar with the day of the dead art you speak of from Mexico. Very interesting stuff.) I believe that a personal relationship with God is more important than a church-going relationship, but I often fall short of my own standards in regard to connecting with God. I, unfortunately, put lots of others things first. I'm divorced and have 7 children by 3 different men. While that could understandably draw criticism from some people, the reality is that my life experiences are the very things that have enabled me to be an outspoken advocate for women and their unborn children. I almost aborted my first child, but chose to cancel the appointment. I felt the pressure of society's messages that I should finish school (which I did, anyway) and should only have "planned" children. But, I resisted that pressure, instead listening to my own heart. I knew the child inside me was my child, was a person, was completely dependent upon my bringing him or her into the world. I now have a grandchild through the very son I almost killed 30 years ago...It's a chilling, sobering thought. But one that I don't want to (and will never) forget... I went on to live with a man and have two more children. We parted and a couple of years later I met the man I married and I had my last three children. (He had a daughter at the time, so that's why I have seven children ;-) We are now divorced. We all have different faces we present to different "audiences". That's normal. The fact is, they are all "us" but just with different nuances. You most definitely "belong" on this board - along with the rest of us complicated human beings ;-)

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Going Crazy Author: Heather [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12/30/08 11:19am Hi Leah, I've been away from the board for a little while because of holiday related festivities, so I'm a little behind the scene here but I'm sure glad you and your babe are ok; bleeding can be scary. I had that with one on my pregnancies, too, and wow: you really get to know what the meaning of 'vulnerable' is! I found it pretty easy to relate to a lot of the other things you posted. It sounds like you're just processing and decompressing and don't necessarily need advice. I think (thought from the beginning!) that you're doing an awesome job dealing with the unexpected, and have been given the grace to come full circle and find the joy in it. I think as your pregnancy progresses the adjusting period will subside and you won't feel as lonely and intimidated (at times) about your baby. I'm not a sage of wisdom at 33, but so far it seems I'm noticing that there are some things/events in life that need intervention and decisions and others that work themselves out naturally. I pray for both and accept what the hand of God brings. :) I don't know if you need the reassurance, but punk music, tattoos, etc don't define you or your value and differently than any of us women here. We've all got eccentricities and are unique. Good thing, too! Imagine if there were only one flower to admire in all the world of creation... I'm excited for you, and resonate with the ups downs and all arounds that this generally anticipatory season in your life is representing right now. I hope you'll keep frequent updates so we can be a part of your pregnancy! With Kindness, Heather